there and simka will be involved in everything, well, you have to be a leading body, there must be some kind of supervisory board, there must be, by the way, from representatives of civil society, about the proposals that the european union has provided regarding the platform, uh, it's all there, uh, different ideas of the usual can be discussed, but for me, community is very important. we can't talk about the entry of the ds and the process of transformation of the country, it's all one and the same. and why do we have a special process where there will be management of the european union, where there will be management of the seven our management, let's combine it, this is a unique situation of the transformation of the country after the war with russia , and this will be the contribution of the seven and to our security, it will be the contribution of the network, but first of all, the european

union, and we will continue to move forward, and let it be active management. i really hope that no one then he won't sing songs about the so-called external control, well. before there, a passenger liked to sing it, well, now in the passages - it's forbidden. so, all the others should be recorded, and why also died in the topic, that's why i went exactly to the common history, not necessarily there should be joint management everywhere and what are some directly practical practical aspects, but what we have to do is calm . for us, it was more unique, yes, without a doubt , today josep borel wrote a blog and wrote about the fact that the european union is gradually freeing itself from dependence, which has long influenced political decisions despite the aggressiveness of the president of the russian federation , vladimir putin, in his blog, a high-ranking

representative of foreign affairs and security policy writes that by the end of 2022, the european union will reduce the import of russian oil by 90%. we are also rapidly reducing gas imports. vladimir putin probably believed that europe would not dare to introduce sanctions due to its energy dependence on the russian federation - this is one of those significant miscalculations that the russian regime is making during this conflict. as borel says, europe did it for in order to protect democracy and international law, and of course the european union will face serious difficulties with energy carriers as far as this story with russian gas and oil we understand that a 90% reduction in imports to 90% by the end of this year will cause serious damage to the russian economy to the extent that the russians

can reorient, for example, to the countries of asia or the east and in some way sell their gas , oil in the same india or should we sell to china , let’s sell flies and meatballs here, as they say, separately , now russia receives more than a billion a day from exports, yes, there are plans to reduce this, which have now been declared by the european union, they will work in this direction and this is a beautiful russia already sells part of the oil from e.e. at a discount, in particular to asian countries, in particular to india in the european union. so far, there are those who object to e.e. not to transport non-russian oil on their dresses

, in particular, plays mechanism, this is a very important story, if they do not insure russian oil in london, if it is delivered by greek ships, then in general, how will it be found on the world markets, and i believe that this is the first and very important step not to talk about some figures are abstract, i would say yes , we do not transport more oil, so we no longer insure oil, so we do not import more russian oil, even as a mixture, to the european union, and even if it is 49%. here it's as if this is no longer the russian people. that's why sanctions need to be made so that they are airtight, you know how you close a bank there so that no one jumps out of it and that there are no options that this is actually the number one task. i haven't read what zep already wrote. eh, but this is the standard logic of the european

union in recent days, i think that inna put it, i don't know is there something completely new there? but the first one again emphasizes that to avoid the sanctions code and to make sure that the european union or the states or the simka do not transport or insure and oil have anything to do with sea routes for oil. the second point is that i really like the proposal of the simka regarding restrictions prices for sandblasting, well, that is, let them sell, but sell only with a small profit, that is, the cost price plus a few dollars, and then they build this cheap oil for everyone's happiness. the urgency of buying this process is holding back this process. if it were to happen, it would be really wonderful . i think that russia is now working like a fool in order to fend off this plan, and it is a myth. i don’t want

it to accumulate as a threat. if it becomes real, then they will not be able to finance the autumn budget in perspective, because oil it gives more than if you seriously look at the ratio of about 2.5, that's oil and them, and let's see it in general in the russian budget and how they will jump further, but so far they are actively trying not to influence the decrease may be supplied by whiskey and other countries, and this will be their strategy for the next month in the future anyway, russia remember as the makias said, this is a gas station controlled by the mafia , er, the gas station needs to be closed so that the mafia does not know what to distribute, what to sell then muffins cherries cherries will then reboot the mafia that's how you really need to act well, gas is a

big next step i understand that you can't give up gas so quickly, but there must be a plan this will help the european union and you in the next green reality and everyone whined, whined , suffered, suffered, and here they have a unique opportunity at the expense of our suffering and to use this kind of thing, they will also use it, and mr. pavla, tell me, where do you think this limit of strength is, when the russian federation simply peels like an ordinary glass can of e- from the sanctions from what the west is doing. i think that this limit is a significant reduction in budget revenues, because they live there by 40 plus or minus percent due to oil and gas, plus there are also many minerals there is that jesus on the economy, they

live by exporting their resources, what else is there, what is there, that there is some hi-tech, yes. yes, there is an industrial park, but in general, there is no hi-tech. and anyway, people are really scattered there, and we definitely need to limit it their profits in connection with e-e with the sale of energy carriers and other products, you see what they say, so russian fertilizers are so important, without it, everyone will starve, so don't let this logic fall on others, don't make any concessions, be lenient about it no that's it there is no way, so there is a certain margin of safety, we have to understand this and speak honestly about it, but the sanctions are in effect, they are effective enough. russia hopes that this winter the european union will begin to lift some sanctions, there will be no gas, there will be no oil,

it will be cold and the bills will be bigger. well, with people need to talk before, european politicians did not want to talk to them and said that somehow we will fix it, but now maybe they will talk, let's make certain compromises, it will not be easy history plus the elections of the united states in the states in november of this year, there will be very difficult discussions between democrats and republicans, so in fact the professional winter will be a difficult period . lukashenko during the last few days he made many different statements about the fact that russia is a single state for belarus, the belarusian army and the russian army are a single army. well, he also said

about the fact that he ordered the units of the armed forces of belarus to target the decision-making center in european capitals, let's hear about it, i want to tell those who are worried, lukashenko will fight there or not, listen, we will fight again, we will repeat it only in one case if you cross the last meter our land and invade our land. if you kill our people, we will respond, so as the president will say , don't touch my state, don't touch my belarusian people if you still have feelings. self-preservation, i want to warn the hawks and tell you frankly that a little less than a month ago , i ordered a division of the armed forces to take aim, as it is now fashionable to say in the center of decision-making in your capitals, with all the ensuing consequences

. to the pomozov oil refining plant at the airport of the airfield in lunetsi or brest, the answer will be instant, instant, just in one second what did we talk about recently with the president of russia ? lukashenka has such rhetoric when he talks about the union of states, he says, "we are creating one state ." er, mine is someone else's, ours is not such a division, but we are dealing with another one. sorry, clinical

idiots . what ukraine launched some missiles towards the russian federation, while he himself says that since february 24, belarus has been participating in the russian-ukrainian war , and that he has long since decided what he wants to get from each other, he wants to raise the stakes, while he himself will not raise any in words pond he has an animal sense of power and he wants to stay in power, so i believe that right now there is a risk of a full-scale company in belarus. of course, it is serious, but relatively low. if russia wants to escalate, this risk will naturally increase. as soon as the risk of provocations on the polish and lithuanian border increases, he is already there singing a song about some decision-making center there, he does not have any

weapons of his own, and even if russia supplies weapons to the territory of belarus, it will be controlled, it is perfectly clear who will something to give, well, look when he speaks, what sad faces everyone has, i don't know who believes him, but belarusians definitely don't want to fight , and this distinguishes them from the russians in terms of mentality, so if lukashenka starts this company, it will be mean the end of him, even as the illegitimate leader of belarus, and he understands this perfectly, that's why he talks a lot, but tries to jump out of the fact that he directly chooses to participate in combat operations, and i think that our answer is absolutely clear. we need more weapons on the northern border of course it is not an

easy decision when the russians are trying to get our donbas but nevertheless this e-e serves to e-e scatter our part of our weapons of the need to protect our northern border and here it is very important for us that our allies understand this and help us with the northern border, too, we have a northern border too. prepare prepare for the next one, but first of all russian troops, since the belarusian offensive is possible. but i think that only together with the russian troops well, the fact that lukashenka is now jumping like er there er in putin's puppet theater, of course he remains a player, but his maneuver is less and less and i do not rule out that

putin will push him to provoke something to attack well, what should he do? he really wants to stay in power, but now according to his status, he is the same aggressor, the same accomplice, and he will respond in the same way, or will belarus respond later with operations or something here, i cannot say, since lukashenko and energy workers, as a result, how will we discuss this with belarus, there are different options, but the fact that lukashenko uh, on his salary accounts, i have no doubts here. well, actually, i wanted to ask about how the ukrainian should react the state because we see that visas for russians have been introduced since july 1 and ukraine has introduced a lot of sanctions against russian companies for those people who worked here or had real estate in

ukraine, and against belarusians and against representatives of the belarusian authorities, and we somehow act so modestly. we all- we still count on the fact that people will grow up inside the country who will help us remove or let's say so we will help the belarusians to remove lukashenka from power and he will also deprive him of the power he took away in 2020, we need to have a certain balance here. is it critical for us in today's conditions? it is not critical, but in general, i believe that the same visa regime should be introduced in relation to belarus. this is absolutely obvious and

there is no doubt about it. what do you think about the fact that, well, actually this resuscitation of the union, which we have repeatedly talked about with you, the attempt to resuscitate the union that vladimir putin is making now, is this resuscitation accelerating because this union state of belarus and russia is on paper it has existed for 10 or maybe 15 years, and we understand that this project has been prepared for a long time, but it is in 2022 that putin is constantly trying to speed up the formation of this mini-union, if you can imagine what putin is really trying to do for the 100th anniversary of soviet union to form this e-copy of the soviet union or a mini-copy of the soviet union , then what other states could theoretically be

part of this creation that putin dreams of. none, only belarus, none of them will be packed there and then they will try to sew all these abkhazias there e- is donetsk luhansk may be a republic. well, that is, they will be playing some kind of er, some game er, which will be half propaganda, half another raising of the stakes. i don't see anyone wanting to join this union , er, even those who fundamentally depend on russia, what tajikistan itself i doubt it very much, but this story is important for putin because he believes that he is creating something around him that will be welcomed by many russians

who are still nostalgic for some kind of union and who will welcome what seems to be belarus closer to russia, and in fact the process of swallowing belarus and the optimists of belarus began because of this, it happened hand and foot and teeth, because if you get under russia, all these pressures, then it will be very difficult to get out of it, and this way you can lose the country and for a very long time, sir pavlenko as nato expands to the east and against the background of ukraine and moldova seeking to join the european union, vladimir putin seeks greater cooperation with the countries of central asia, because at the time when that took place in madrid, putin flew to

in tajikistan and turkmenistan, i held certain negotiations with the leaders of these countries. it's more about economics or politics. why am i asking about the economy? because i know that turkmenistan still sold gas through russia. everything well, he entered through the territory of the russian federation. is this an attempt by putin to negotiate with the turkmen? well, so that turkmenistan does not sell a lot of gas in europe, or is he still looking for some kind of political support? rely on the post-soviet space, because china is a little further from russia, as far as tajikistan and turkmenistan, the motto is the biggest, although the economy is also

putin's first visit after the start of the war, and in my opinion, it speaks of the weakness of russian positions, and russia is becoming less and less because of uzbekistan, if you follow the positions according to the events of the carpathian fc, russia is becoming less, turkey is becoming more china, more countries and more, but in fact there are always fewer in russia, although there are more than enough agents of russian influence, the same in tajikistan because there gradually, but there is a noticeable increase in the possibility of rebooting the whole of tajikistan, the state of the taliban offensive, the offensive of internal forces, the combination of these offensives, and russian troops are stationed there. russia may lose its position in central asia altogether and cease to be there.

the west will be india wings but russia will not be in the first league for her it will be an ordinary disaster the caspians themselves are very important when we look at this er nightmarish terrible table er even all these photos with putin at a distance of 10-12 m seem like some kind of joke, ah, the caspian sea is critically important for russia, and if russia becomes smaller in the central part, it will become smaller in the caucasus, it will become smaller in the caspian sea, of course it will become smaller here in ukraine, and then the question arises where is russia actually and putin went absolutely deliberately because no one else can go on this visit himself, well, that is, send someone la otam or a stable. and this is no longer serious and that is why only putin

is perceived personally by those with whom he talks and that's all there is one more statement, proof. if you want the weaknesses of this system, in the end, putin is the only legitimate representative of many countries who can express a position with which you can talk to all the others - these are just banal performers. that is, it is again about putin alone and really nothing more, and in my opinion, this visit demonstrates the nervousness of such a russian regime regarding its positions in central asia, mr. pavel, at the end of our program, i cannot but ask you about the diplomatic scandal between paris and moscow regarding the publication of putin's conversation and the macro. what was it and there is no particular

scandal there, let them be offended by something like that in moscow and sneeze. the french completely deliberately dropped it. they dropped it right to hear how rude the president of russia is behaving, as he says. well, i'm there. i will go play hockey there. you know, and then i can give some instructions to my advisers there, and as a result, it happens from the meeting with biden, that is, it is perfectly clear to everyone that this was all planned in advance, and i believe that behind these with this conversation it is absolutely clear who what and how and how he did it and that what the french recorded it is

wonderful that they submitted it is also wonderful it's a bit funny, i have the impression that this macao conversation was for the sake of anya's conversation for the sake of its content, and it 's not quite correct in my opinion, but otherwise the french did the right thing by merging this recording, it characterizes putin and his regime very well. well then a lot of questions arise. and what about macron 100 hours talked with putin. if he talked to him in this way, well, a logical question just arises, you understand. well, i think that actually for macron, the desire to maintain this contact and not to bury him with er how they pissed off the last and last chance, well, pissed off. i think that nothing special will actually happen and they will continue

to talk, only the meaning of this conversation was not understood by me. poezirstvam, how humiliating is putin, he sees, he sees for six months, and i believe that europe has a worthy answer to him. thank you, mr. pavla. this was pavlo klimkin, the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine in 2014-2019 . it was conducted by serhii rudenko, i wish you all good health, take care of yourself and your loved ones, we will meet with you tomorrow as usual at 1:00 p.m. goodbye. watch the events, the most important events

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