old lawyers, and some of them say that this norm is already dead and detached from reality, maybe 30 years ago, under the conditions of total state control over the citizens . and now, when there are millions of displaced people in the country, thousands of volunteers who travel here and there in the country, it doesn't work, maybe it should be canceled. what do you say? i think we have to wait for this official clarification from the legal department of the general staff, because in essence the general staff. i remember that one of the largest departments where they actually work, well, specialists who know about these issues, i hope that we will hear a match from them, such a clear explanation, because i have seen a statement from one of the advisers to the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine, general zuluzhny i don't remember. i apologize for the name of the person who said that she is currently working on this law in order to coordinate it with the current requirements of the time, so

that there is no imbalance, to reduce the level of tension in ukrainian society, because absolutely i am convinced that any actions, including those aimed at ensuring the security of our country, must be synchronized with modern realities and not create disorder at the expense of the implementation of other laws like those. passing e-e checkpoints, because the relevant officials must check the presence or absence of the same doses at them. thank you very much for your comment. vladyslav seleznyov, military expert, spokesman of the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine, 14-17 years thank you, satellite images prove that russia systematically exports ukrainian grain to turkey through the crimea, this was found out by the journalists of the scheme program in their investigation, despite the statement of the turkish authorities that the country does not buy ukrainian

grain from russia from the occupied territories, the journalists provide evidence to the contrary, the russian invaders turn off the radars on the ships with they export ukrainian grain from crimea to turkish ports, but this systematic process is regularly caught on satellite images. turkey declares that it does not buy from russia illegally exported ukrainian grain from the occupied territories, this is the minister of foreign affairs of turkey, he assures that the ships spotted in turkish ports are carrying ukrainian and russian grain to the country, and according to him, everyone can check this, you just need to download the appropriate application for tracking air traffic on your phone or computer if shipping is really checked , anyone who has access to the marinetraffic vessel tracking service and satellite images, for example, the leps planet service, can check it what did journalists investigating the schemes do and provide evidence that casts doubt on the credibility of

the statements of the head of the turkish foreign ministry? this is the largest russian-controlled grain terminal in sevastopol, the main point where russia now transports grain from the newly occupied territories of southern ukraine, in particular zaporizhzhia, kherson oblast , according to the ministry of agrarian policy. in the car, there can be only ukrainian sales of ukrainian territories, so it was not possible to conveniently collect there for years considers that there was no grain available for export in recent years in crimea , the occupation authorities do not hide this, the russian head of crimea serhiy aksyonov directly stated that the grain from the liberated territories is what he calls the temporarily occupied ukrainian regions, goes to sevastopol for sale and openly talks about

export of grain and appointed by the russian military as a representative of the occupation authorities of kherson oblast the amount of lake water will increase further, where does russia take ukrainian grain from the crimea, part of the ships sail to syria, what schemes were told about in the previous investigation, and part went to turkey. and here is the evidence. turkey, all of this happened before the statements of the turkish high-ranking official that russia does not take ukrainian grain to them. yes, and after one of these vessels under the russian flag and named mykhailo ninashev 15 april - this vessel was spotted near the avlita piers, but the vessel monitoring service maryn trafic does not

see mykhailo nenashev due to disabled radars. the system begins to detect him only three days later. on april 18, mykhailo ninashev turns on the radars near the bosphorus, indicating for official monitoring the port of sevastopol as the exit point and the kavkaz anchorage as the anchor in the kerch strait, marin traffic also shows the vessel's load before entering the crimean port , it was in ballast, i.e. empty, and after the already loaded mykhailo ninashev enters the water area of turkey and on april 22 it arrives at port deringer in four days, the marine traffic system records that bulker is already empty, the port of deringer belongs to the turkish group of the company sofi holding and is controlled by the sofia family, one of the family members. he is also the head of the holding and the chairman of the supervisory board two days before the start full-scale invasion of russia into ukraine, he had a meeting with the russian delegation regarding

future cooperation. to the sea, he turns off the radars, what is important, the ship is empty , on may 25, the planet laps satellite captures mykhailo ninashev near the grain terminal, and in the summer, these pictures are at the disposal of the schemes. from the official monitoring system of the departure of the sevastopol grain vessel. the destination of the bulker is the turkish port from kenderun. it will arrive there on may 30 in a week. the bulker leaves the turkish port and already without grain exported from the occupied ukrainian territories repeats its path. mykhailo ninashev enters the

waters of the black sea and takes a course allegedly for kerch , but on june 11, the ship once again disappears from radars for a whole week, but it cannot hide from the satellite. here is a picture from june 14, after disappearing from radars, the ship entered the ice summer port where ukrainian grain is taken today, its holds are empty, and in the following days they will be loaded with grain stops hiding its location bulker appears on radars in the kerch area only on june 18 straits service marinetraffic records that there is a cargo on board mykhailo nenashev, without entering the port of kerch, again heads to turkey, indicating the port of destination, and the scanderun is moored to the pier on june 25. at this moment, journalist osman pashaev, who is also

investigating the illegal export of ukrainian grain to turkey, this time the ship did not stop in the city itself from kenderun. and about 30 km near the pier of the private port of mmk-metallurgy, this is the turkish port of the russian company magnitogorsk metallurgical combine of controls under sanctions russian oligarch viktor rashnikov, a businessman close to putin the turkish authorities reported that they are investigating claims that ukrainian grain was stolen by russia and sent, including to its ports, but noted that it has not yet discovered any such deliveries , all the facts found that testify to the illegal export of grain from the territories of ukraine occupied by russia to turkey, the journalists of the radio svoboda scheme have submitted a request to the turkish ministry of foreign affairs and are waiting for a response, we will discuss this topic

zasman pashayev, a journalist who also follows this topic of ottomans. good evening. good evening. it is possible that turkey has already received some reactions to the investigation of ukrainian journalists from the ministry of foreign affairs or from turkish politicians to the inquiries of the turkish government. these authorities, but she responds to it when gestures manage to be simple and catch her today's event in antarist with the presentation of an honorary doctor of the top university mustafa dzhmiliev there will be more than 40 diplomats from different countries, including the expected presence of the authorities, not with our team, there should be a journalist there. if it is possible, we will put directly on the spot, taking advantage of the opportunity to transfer with representatives of the authorities, and here we have to say that we are here, we have to talk to the ministry first of all of transport and infrastructure. by the way, some ukrainian experts in the

practice of carriers. they said that it was precisely at the level of the ministry of transport of ukraine and that it was necessary to contact their turkish colleagues to get these answers before the general prosecutor's office provided all the case materials and evidence for the turkish side. by the way, these materials were handed over to the extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine in ankara, vasyl bodnar, i don’t know if the journalists mentioned the schemes or not. well, for now, such a situation was handed over after the detention of zhipikzhol, and i haven’t seen the official reaction. please tell me, first of all, there were already precedents for a full-scale russian invasion, well, in addition to the one that was laid out by the journalists of the program of the scheme when ships with grain were detained in turkey in connection with the fact that it is possible that they had some questions about the origin of the grain, i don't remember, first of all, the journalists of the public and the peacemaker kateryna yaresko, early on, everyone talked about these

cases with ships and they were recorded exactly by journalists of the public ua-sauz project with five ports, but there were no delays, in addition, it must be said that the violation of the sanctioned breeding regime is actually in relation to the crimean ports, we are now talking about jeeps, some bees, berdyanska came. this is a new occupied territory, for the most part we talked about the ports of akyar, this is the so-called sevastopol of kerch, and even places like this, as it has now appeared, the violations at these ports actually began, hmm, long before the hot stage, since october 2021, but you said that and the export of grain ago that turkey plays such a powerful, allegedly, role between ukraine and russia, taking on the functions of a negotiator and here exporting grain and allegedly buying it here. therefore,

turkey is trying to reconcile this, you know , during the war, to reconcile the parties regarding trade, yes a war is war and trade is necessary and this is how it looks from the turkish side, from the ukrainian side there is also an understanding of what is and there is business and money and budgets and by the way, this is how it would be during all times, soldiers are not needed here, but here, if you research it, you need to ask it historians, it was and was traded through third countries and negotiations took place in third countries because no one canceled the budget and money of the people of their wealth, but taxes and because the ukrainian side has a valid proposal in these conditions, which is to trade through the danube and the transportation will be to take place along the nato countries along bulgaria and romania, and therefore it is simply necessary to ensure the unhindered entry to the danube and exit from the danube a-a and everything a-a at the time while er-e russia is occupying the southern part of ukraine was up to er

our control over the danube part of the scheme in their investigation, they ask such a more global question, whose side is turkey on in the war between russia and ukraine, and here i would not like to dwell on politics now. but if we talk about the turkish people, have there been any sociological surveys in turkey recently or studies that you can rely on when commenting on the public mood in turkey regarding the war in ukraine, who does the turkish people support ? usually they are interested in such things in the turkish company, mostly sociological ones are already set up for the second year, and we have a year left before the simultaneous presidential and parliamentary elections in the country, and these are very important, symbolically it will be next year

the centenary of the founding of the turkish republic by mustafa kemal the mataturk and who gets this victory now is not yet known it was before that you were crazy with oh dugan was undeniable therefore everyone is all sociology about that but if we understand that the war is very actively covered in turkey and has been covered from the very beginning especially in the first days of the war. how could turkey cover it like this? or maybe britain, the united states, as it actively covered the war. there are many of them with their own correspondents everywhere in all commercial channels. points of ukraine and i will now talk about the subjective impression of what is, and everyone in turkey mostly understands whose side is the truth, but just like in germany, in most countries of continental europe, turkey is also infected with anti-americanism, and they blame it on what happened to the united states of america, thank you

very much for the comment from monpasha to the journalist. well, the russian bulker sailor pozynych, loaded with ukrainian grain, left the vastopol bay the day before, correspondents of the crimea have already reported this in reality, as noted earlier, the russian bulk carrier pozynych was loaded with ukrainian grain from sevastopol on july 1, and the day before at around 11:30 a.m., the bulker left the berth of the grain terminal under the e-e, and in the summer , the dry cargo loaded along the e-e waterline passed under the escort of tugs and the pilot of the sevastopol through the bay and at about 12:00 left the port gate . the ship went in the direction of cape chersonese already at 12:30 another ship entered the sevastopol bay to load grain. well, we will discuss the topic of grain export to turkey ihor simovolos, the director of the middle eastern studies center, is already in touch with us to discuss further. well, turkey, the

turkish authorities say, at least as of yesterday , that an investigation was carried out by journalists. they said that their country does not buy stolen grain. what do you think they are really doing? know and do not see, or they are perfectly aware, but it is simply beneficial for them to close their eyes to such things. not in such a country as turkey, you cannot hide the fact of the purchase of stolen grain, that is, exactly it is obvious that this situation continues, it remains problematic for turkey, but they try to pretend that such a problem does not exist. well, when they are caught by the hand, then they already say, you know, they saw through it, that is, in any

case, turkey is obvious is trying to do everything in order to, on the one hand, continue to sell grain or buy stolen ukrainian grain , especially when it comes to the ports of the grain received from the ports of crimea, because it is profitable and it corresponds , relatively speaking, to the business interests of many structures in turkey, well, you said until they were grabbed by the hand, well, they are already being grabbed by the hand, that is, some tools and levers of influence may be appearing in the west to put pressure on turkey. well, we know very well that turkey did not join to the sanctions, turkey explains this by its unique e-e functions, i.e. what they are an intermediary and this allows them,

at least they think so, to behave as they want, i.e. in this sense, to be free from any obligations and based on this unlikely it can be expected that some effective sanctions can be applied to turkey, which would ensure that ukraine does not buy this stolen ukrainian grain, but if the situation becomes so obvious and i shout what how was it, for example, a stanker who came out of berdyanska, here even turkey is forced to react. i think that the situation is uncomfortable for turkey and i think that it will react literally on july 1

. volodymyr zelenskyi and volodymyr putin just in time for unblocking the sea routes and for the export of ukrainian grain. we do not yet know whether these negotiations will happen or not, but it is already clear that turkey still wants to maintain an influential role in this process and, frankly, on the one hand, to be a negotiator from the other side to buy ukrainian stolen grain and how is that possible? well, by the way, i don't think that's possible. well, in the end, for now , turkey is taking advantage of the fact that it is the only one of the countries of the black sea basin that is ready to take such steps, yes, that is, to take responsibility, including the transportation of

grain or the introduction of the negotiation process, no one else has yet taken responsibility, likewise no one else has taken responsibility for accompanying ukrainian grain or security, well , in general, we are doing great we understand that the very problem of the security of the black sea ports of ukraine is connected not only with moscow's promises not to attack them, but for the transportation of grain, and there should be clear guarantees from the countries, well, turkey, by the way, she could to submit such guarantees, but it is unlikely that she will give , that is, it is not in her power until turkey will not fight with russia in the event that russia rethinks its promises and tries to attack the same ports, therefore, on the one hand, there is no doubt that it is beneficial for the turks. business is here, and the role

they imagine they play in the middle east, that is, they are the saviors of the middle east from hunger, and that we are thanks to turkey, that is, another opportunity to present ortogan as such a savior of the countries of bit it is very important for turkey to travel for foreign policy and for internal aspects. let's not forget that the elections are upon us. well, hmm, in general, this topic is an extremely interesting opinion. that is, it is the export of grain. haha, you said they want to feed there . countries, they sell it correctly , then yes, absolutely correct, well, that is, i mean that they and they offer uh, well, the option

was, you know, caused a number of such uh, discussions about the fact that the turks offer uh discount in the form of 25% yes yes yes yes yes well, this is a kind of cheapness, that is, actually with the help of which they can rise very well. and well, you know one more nuance here. well , in some reports, it is very interesting that the turks are harboring ukrainian grain appears under the name black sea grain. that is, this is a very interesting interpretation . this is an attempt, relatively speaking, to hide the fact of theft from ukraine, one more question: journalists are in the investigation.

there is no answer well, it is obvious, here we can say that turkey is interested in economic relations with russia, as well as turkey is interested in economic relations with ukraine, well, it is not working with ukraine so far , that is, we need to save the economy, which means we need to work with russia. well, in the end in the end, turkey is on its own as far as it sees its interest, yes, and to a certain extent it wants to remain a bona fide member of international organizations, including nato, and plays with it, of course, but still tries not to replay it as you did in the situation of sweden and finland, i.e. a very difficult country with a very serious problem, specifically mental problems in the

sense of this e-e such e-e on the one hand, imagining yourself as a part of the western world, on the other hand, imagining yourself as a part of the eastern world -e with great sentiments for its e-e eurasianism and american great anti-american sentiment, at the same time, at the same time, they consider themselves in principle e-e part of the western world, a very difficult country already in front of you osman pashaev spoke igor samovolos is the director of the research center, he was on radio svoboda, thank you very much. well, today the ambassadors of the nato member countries signed the protocols on the accession of finland and sweden to the alliance, by the way , turkey also played a key role here, the signing ceremony took place at the nato headquarters in brussels on zoryana stepanenko, the correspondent of radio svoboda in brussels, followed the process. she is in touch with us

. present and future this is how today's event was described by the secretary general of the alliance at the nato headquarters solemnly signed the protocols on the accession of two scandinavian countries to the alliance, because both officially confirmed their desire and ability to fulfill the political, legal and military obligations stipulated by nato membership, it is said in the documents that it will now start the ratification process , that is, the matter goes to the parliaments of 30 allied countries, and each of them essentially has to say yes to sweden and finland only then do they become full members of the alliance, the secretary general expects that it will not take a year as usual, but months, and by the word of a colleague, the danish parliament has already voted, the german bundestag is planned to be held this week, but when will it be the turn of the turkish parliament? there is an intrigue in this, because erdogan made it clear that first he is waiting for the fulfillment of the promises made to him regarding, in particular,

the traditions of the syrian kurds, whose the ankaras are considered terrorists and who were given asylum in sweden, in particular . at the ceremony, the secretary general reminded about the open doors of nato, listen to the healthy nato remains open to european democrats who are ready and want to contribute to our common security this is a good day for finland and sweden and also a good day for nato with 32 countries at the table we will be even stronger and our people will be safer because we are facing the biggest security crisis in decades russia at this historic meeting, which in recent months meanwhile took away a lot of heavy equipment from sub-finnish borders, was not directly mentioned today, but i will remind my colleagues what exactly it is, or rather its full-scale war against ukraine, ended decades the neutrality of finland and for centuries sweden these are traditionally neutral countries, but at some

point it is clear that they decided that it would be more comfortable and safer for them together with nato, and in this way russia, which wanted to remind you of less of the alliance around itself, well, in particular, with such arguments, she explained her attack on ukraine, which in the end many western observers called it fake; on the contrary, in the end, russia gets a border with nato that is twice as long, so far there is no hope that this border will become even longer in the near future, in particular due to the head of ukrainian diplomacy noted the day before, stressing that there are no signs of a change in the alliance's practical policy regarding ukraine's membership. well, thanks to the unprecedentedly fast accession of sweden and finland. by the way, this is really the fastest process in the history of nato regarding the expansion of the alliance. countries submitted in may in kyiv, it is actually clear that the path to nato

may actually be shorter than it always seemed . because as it turned out, it is possible to do without a plan actions regarding membership, which ukraine has not yet received, which the alliance said was mandatory well, and which in the end the scandinavian recruits did not need right now these two countries can actually be present at the meetings of the member countries of the alliance well, but they will not have the right to vote and he will appear only 30 parliaments of the member countries of the allies ratify the treaty on the accession of sweden and finland to donato , only then will they become full members of the alliance. there is hope for ukraine too thank you zoryana stepanenko from brussels well, some important news that just appeared on the website of radio liberty , the un human rights monitoring mission reports that as of july 4, that is, as of yesterday,

8,889 cases of death and 6,263 cases of injury have been confirmed of civilians as a result of the full-scale invasion of russia, and these numbers are verified, those that have already been agreed with the doctors and the police, of course we are not talking about tens of thousands or even tens of thousands of people who could have died because they died in mariupol, for example, where the un monitoring mission does not have access, and there it is noted that all 98 percent of these deaths were caused by the use of explosive weapons with a large area of ​​damage, according to the report of the un monitoring mission, and one more important the news is literally now dozens of countries - that's about 40 countries of the world have undertaken to receive ukraine during as long as the war continues and after it is meant to restore ukraine and agreed that these reforms will be long

long recovery in exchange for reforms in particular this is the final communication of this conference that took place in lugano and lasted two days, which we also covered the day before, see more news on the radio liberty website well, we will be back tomorrow evening of the 132nd day of the war russia against ukraine for your attention news on espresso in the studio works anzhelika sezonenko russians continue to launch rocket attacks on military and civilian objects in the donetsk direction, the enemy's main efforts are focused on seizing the bakhmut-lysichansk road and trying to seize the settlement of belogirovka reports the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine in the direction of bakhmut, the occupiers with the support of artillery and aviation were