the response of both the world and ukraine to these constant threats of lukashenko, because lukashenko threatens ukraine, he says that ukraine fired some missiles in the direction of the russian federation, at the same time, he himself says that from february 24, belarus would take part in the russian-ukrainian war and that he had already made up his mind a long time ago what he wants to get in return he doesn't want to raise the stakes until he verbally raises any stakes himself he has an animal sense of power and he wants to stay in power so i think that right now is a risk of course, he is serious, but relatively low. if russia wants to escalate, this risk will naturally increase, just as the risk of provocations on the polish and lithuanian border will increase. he is already there singing a song

about some decision-making center, he has no weapons of his own. and even if russia supplies weapons to the territory of belarus, it will control it, it is perfectly clear who will give him something there, well, look when he speaks, what sad faces in i don't know everyone there, someone believes him, but the belarusians don't want to fight, and this distinguishes them from the russians in terms of mentality, so if lukashenko starts this company, it will mean the end of him, even as an illegitimate leader of belarus, and he understands this perfectly well. he talks a lot, but he tries to jump out of the fact that he should directly choose to participate in combat operations and i think that our answer

is absolutely clear. we need more weapons on the northern border. of course, it is not easy . solution when the russians are trying to get our donbas but nevertheless, this er serves to er scatter and our units and our weapons the need to protect our northern border and here it is very important for us that our allies understand this and er exactly with the northern border too they helped, we have the northern border too eh eh prepare prepare for the next but first of all russian troops because the belarusian offensive eh yes it is possible but i think that only together with russian troops well, what lukashenka now he’s jumping like that in putin’s puppet theater, yes. of course he remains a player, but

his maneuver is less and less, and i don’t rule out that putin will push him to something to provoke an offensive. well, what should he do? he really wants to stay. in power, but now according to his status, he is the same aggressor, the same accomplice, and he will respond the same way, or will belarus respond later, with operations or something, i ca n’t say, since lukashenko and the energy workers, as a result, how will we be from belarus there are various options to discuss here, but what lukashenko is doing on his salary accounts. i have no doubts about this. well, actually, i wanted to ask about how the ukrainian state should react, because we see that visas for russians have been introduced since july 1 and a lot ukraine introduced sanctions against russian companies for

those people who worked here or owned real estate in ukraine, and against belarusians and representatives of the belarusian authorities, and we somehow act so modestly. remove or let's say yes, we will help the belarusians to remove lukashenka from power and he will also deprive him of the power that he took for himself in 2020, here we need to have a certain balance in general, i believe that the same visa regime should be introduced

in relation to belarus, this is absolutely obvious and there is no doubt about it. and what do you think about the fact that, well, in fact, this resuscitation of the union, which we have repeatedly talked about with you, is an attempt resuscitation of the union that vladimir putin is doing now, is this resuscitation accelerating because this union state of belarus and russia has existed on paper for 10 or maybe 15 years and we understand that this project has been prepared for a long time, but in 2022, putin constantly is trying to speed up the formation of this mini-union, if you imagine that putin is really trying to form this copy of the

soviet union or a mini-copy of the soviet union by the centenary of the soviet union, then what theoretical states could still be parts of this creation that putin dreams of. none, only belarus, whatever they will pack there and then they will try to sew all these abkhazias there, eh, donetsk luhansk, maybe a tyrespil well, that is, they will play some kind of eh, some game eh propagandistic , half, another raising of the stakes. i still don’t see anyone wanting to join this union, even those who are fundamentally dependent on russia, the fact that tajikistan itself is involved in this, i very, very doubt it, but this story is important to putin because he

believes that he is creating something around him that will be welcomed by many russians who are still nostalgic for some kind of union and who welcome the fact that it seems that belarus is even closer to russia, but in fact the process of swallowing up belarus has begun, and the optimists of belarus have been going hand and foot from this because if you get under russian uh, all these uh, pressures, then it will be insanely insanely difficult to jump out of it, and that way you can lose the country and for a very long time, mr. pavlenko, as nato expands to the east and against the background of ukraine there, moldova is striving for of the european union, vladimir putin seeks greater cooperation with the countries of central asia, because at

the time when the events in madrid took place, putin flew to tajikistan and turkmenistan and entered into certain negotiations with the leaders of these countries . that i know that turkmenistan sold gas through russia after all. well, including that ukraine used to buy this turkmen gas anyway, it came through the territory of the russian federation. is this an attempt by putin to negotiate with turkmenistan so that turkmenistan did not sell a lot of gas in europe , was it still looking for some kind of political support, as if it were the taliban, but after all, it needs to rely on some basis in the post-soviet space, because china is a little further from russia, even tajikistan and turkmenistan, of course politics is more, although the economy is

also this is putin's first visit after the start of the war, and it seems to me that it speaks of the weakness of russian positions and that russia is becoming less and less because from uzbekistan, if you follow the positions and events of fc carpathians, there is the fact that russia is becoming less than turkey is becoming more china, more territory and more, but in fact russia is constantly less, although agents of russian influence are still more than enough, the same in tajikistan, since the pace is gradually but noticeably increasing, the possibility of rebooting the whole of tajikistan , the state of the taliban offensive, the offensive of internal forces, the combination of these offensives and the russian troops standing there, russia can lose in general, the position in central asia and to stop being a key player there will mean that china will be there

, turkey will be the west, india will be korea, but russia will not be in the first league for her, it will be an ordinary disaster, the caspian summit of the caspian sea is very important when we look at this uh, nightmarish, terrible table, uh, even all these photos with putin at a distance of 10-12 m seem like such jokes a- and the caspian sea is critically important for russia, and if russia becomes smaller in central asia, it will become smaller in the caucasus, the caspian sea will naturally become smaller here in ukraine, eh, and then the question arises, where is russia actually and more, and putin has absolutely deliberately gone because no one else has already this visits he can't go himself, well, that is, send someone

lavrov there or something, it's not serious and that's why only putin is perceived personally by those with whom he talks, and this is still another statement, proof. if you want the weaknesses of this system , in the end, putin - this is the only legitimate e-e representative e-e who e-e for many countries can express a position with which you can talk to all the others - these are just banal performers. that is, it is again about one putin and in fact nothing more and how do i like this visit he demonstrates the nervousness of such a russian regime regarding its positions in central asia, mr. pavlo, at the end of our program, i cannot help but ask you about the diplomatic scandal between paris and moscow regarding the publication of the conversation between putin and macron, what

was it and there is nothing special about it, the french completely deliberately dropped it, correctly so that heard how rude the president of russia is behaving, as he says well, i will go there and play hockey. you know , well, then i can give some instructions to my advisers, and as a result, it happens from meetings with biden, that is, it is perfectly clear to everyone that this was all arranged in advance, and i believe that after this conversation with this person, it is absolutely clear who and what and how and how he did it and what the french wrote it down , it is wonderful that they submitted it, it is also wonderful

uh, the only thing is that macron’s long conversation about who is there , what and what it actually looks like, well, something that is funny , i have the impression that this macau conversation was for the sake of ani’s conversation, for the sake of its content, and this is not quite correct in my opinion, but otherwise the french , er, did the right thing by merging and merging this record, well he characterizes putin and his regime very well. well, then a lot of questions arise. what if macron talked to putin for 100 hours. if he talked to him in this way, well, a logical question just arises, you understand. well, i think that in fact, for macron, the desire to maintain this contact and his with e - well, finally, not to keep it was, well, the main idea. why did he continue it after they pissed off the last and last chance, well, pissed off. i think that

nothing special will actually happen and they will continue to talk, only the meaning of this conversation to me no, they didn't understand, eh. this conversation looks kind of lousy, sad, and in the end it shows how much with poetry, how humiliating putin has been for six months, and i believe that europe should give him a decent answer to this. thank you, mr. pavla. it was pavlo klimkin, minister of foreign affairs of ukraine 2014-2019 years mutually. i wish you all the best. glory to ukraine and this was the verdict program. it was conducted by serhiy rudenko. i wish you all good health. take care of yourself and your loved ones. we will meet with you tomorrow as usual at 1:00 p.m. dating we continue to look for

11-year-old danylo the coachman who disappeared in the temporarily occupied border region of the luhansk region. i have already told about the story of the disappearance of this boy and at first almost nothing was known about his fate. everything is fine with dana, and the main thing is that he is alive. at first we only knew that danya zhivoruzhno with his father and grandmother and contact with them was cut off. we were contacted by another grandmother who lives in new york, every day god of the sea, so that a real miracle would happen, so that they would be found, so that they would be alive, let them go to russia, even if it is possible to collect them from there, our first program about the search for data was seen by his third cousin, who

lives in kyiv and it so happened that he simply did not know about the disappearance of his nephew, the man immediately decided to join the search and did everything possible to find out at least something about the fate of the data. we spoke with him on the phone and this is what he told then i went to see another woman who said that she was told by a third person who had seen it, then i went to see a relative of that woman from the mykolaiv region. well, there was a whole scheme and the man managed to do what seemed impossible as a result of painstaking searches . he did go to see a woman who reported that 21 in june, danya saw his father and grandmother, a person who lives in the same house, she said that they are alive, they are hiding in shelters, she says that they are alive with them. i am signing up, a woman wrote that dania and her father and

grandmother allegedly still live in a five-story building, they survived at night, they hide in a shelter and during the day they go up to the apartment. will not stop their search for the time being, this information has not yet been fully confirmed, that is, when i saw that they were definitely found, we have photos and videos that they are alive for now, i would just order that 100%. must after all, check also quite encouraging information was told to us by grandma data, who lives in the united states and how she can try to help from there. in search of her grandson, she says that one day data's father appeared on the internet and she tried to call him. my son-in-law's phone appeared in telegram and i started dialing him from him all the time it was busy busy busy but i don't know how many times i dialed 20-30 times i don't remember anymore and

then i still couldn't get in touch well there's no connection here 's a message i get that there's no connection and i here every day, i ask everything , i will call, there is no connection, there is no connection, unfortunately, this situation in the occupied territories is a common occurrence. they want to be 100% sure that danya is alive. i am asking everyone who saw or heard something, knows that they saw my grandson, danechku, please let your editor know about it, please let someone know video, someone heard, maybe someone knows that

they are alive. it is even difficult to imagine that they are alive. it is even difficult to imagine what the relatives of the boy are going through. i am asking and i am appealing first of all to the residents of occupied rubizhny, if you happen to see this program and have at least some information about danilo karetnyk, please report to our hotline at 116,000 calls to the tracing service children are free and you can call from any mobile operator. if you are in the occupied territory, you have communication problems and you cannot get through, try writing to telegram. we have a special chatbot of the child tracing service. a week and at any time, even the smallest information from you can become important and even

decisive data of the coachman greetings, dear viewers, during the next television hour on the air of the espresso tv channel, we will analyze the most important events, of course we are talking about the conclusion of the madrid nato summit, at the same time we understand that heavy weapons, heavy artillery weapons have finally started to arrive, and we also understand that with joint forces, well, first of all, of course, thanks to the heroism of our military, we managed to help the russians show the so-called good will. snake island, on the other hand, we understand that the spanish nato summit demonstrates a fundamentally new approach to the russian threat, the members of the euro-atlantic alliance

are ready to take measures as soon as possible to to defend the same lithuania, latvia or estonia from the buchan or irpin syndrome about this or other roman bezsmertny and andriy piontkovskyi watch espresso tv channel and now on espresso tv channel roman bessmertny ukrainian politician diplomat former extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador to the republic of belarus we will talk about the most relevant and possibly painful questions. glory to ukraine, mr. roman, glory to the heroes . so, we understand that the age-old, without exaggeration, the so-called madrid sami where nato took place has completely changed its concept, the concept of not releasing one of its members, who will be attacked by russia, for example. so what to do - this is immediate , that is, the united states will increase its contingents accordingly, the euro-atlantic machine will go

in the right direction, but unfortunately we understand that to a large extent the west has woken up because of our our blood, our suffering and our war, this is really a serious event, it is a turning point and it is turning point in the fate of nato and in the fate of the european community, i think. the fact is that the refrain of the summit there are two positions. it is obvious that the key threat to europe and russia and the key threat to the world is china, and it is necessary to pay attention to the fact that representatives of asian countries were also present at the summit, which immediately caused an emotional reaction of the deceased. the second place in what determines the significance of this summit is the actual decision on ukraine and this is a long-term program and

it is with a clear reference ukraine will receive as much and as much time as it will be necessary to achieve victory over russia and this is it is very important to hear how much and how long it will take to achieve victory over russia, and because from my point of view, in these two programs, in these two approaches, lies the answer to the question of ukraine's future membership in nato, and i am a little i was surprised, i'll put it mildly. yes, the internal discussion in ukraine about the topic of dayosh, nato, are we not going there? it somehow developed in parallel in very, from my point of view, unpleasant slogans and slogans, mr. roman, from the

last signals, it was zhovkva's phrase of the deputy head of the presidential office, who, so to speak, quite skeptically assessed our prospects and, in general, whether we should integrate into nato due to inaction on the part of this structure . an opposition politician or an outsider, it could be ignored, but it is incorrect to make such statements from the point of view of the status of a civil servant, therefore, from my point of view, it was necessary because such things are unacceptable, especially at the stage when the preparations for the summit were underway, i will now say about things that are clearly visible in those decisions and in those actions that took place these days, because it is impossible to detach from

what happened at the nato summit, but the delicate, as the americans said, from the conversation between president zelenskyi and the big seven even more, i will say an even more delicate conversation between president zelenskyi and at the nato summit, and here it is necessary to be as businesslike as possible, as consistent as possible and as correct as possible in defining needs and joint plans and perspective, i will emphasize the word constructive here, even because the decisions made by nato clearly indicate how they see the prospects, they

see the prospects together with ukraine. it is necessary to understand well, and that is why the ability to oppose russia is ensured by the alliance of ukraine, nato and the united states of america, this must be clearly understood because if we now analyze the sum of the statements that were made the president of the united states of america regarding the placement of new squadrons of the naval fleet in europe regarding new aviation divisions regarding new units of the ground forces, then it becomes clear who will be responsible for filling this figure of 300,000, hence the logic suggests that only interaction at this stage, constructive interaction of ukraine , nato and the united states america at the current stage will allow to restrain aggressiveness at the

next stage will allow to strike a serious blow and at the third stage to achieve victory turn attention. i want everyone to understand this. yes, no. in ukraine, no, in nato, no, in the usa, no one has formed the content of the victory over russia. this means that , in fact, everyone is absolutely doomed to come together and correctly come up with a strategy and tactics for achieving victory, sir. roman, i agree with you, you said the key phrase, the meaning of the victory over russia, because we understand depending on how to decipher how to embroider this formula , accordingly, the framework negotiating position will be the same, and we understand very well with you what the negotiations once began, the so-called

bialyovez negotiations, now they are smoothly moving to istanbul, and it seems that it is only about the grain of its transportation, where the blocking is, in fact, we understand that there is an extremely powerful negotiating diplomatic track, few people talk about it, but you and i understand what it is about ri ot politik please explain what in your opinion is happening in istanbul the fact is that when talking about this so-called istanbul track as a legacy of many things, from the point of view the practices of western politics, and there they always gave a chance to those who left the coils to introduce themselves constructively and therefore the first how i would evaluate the istanbul trok track is a chance for the kremlin to introduce itself constructively even in such a dangerous situation, this is the first argument, the second is to understand

that the president of turkey erdoğan, like any other leader of this type, dreams of re-election in the current situation, any even minimal economic movements, especially in the energy market, will mean a minus for him because of his hustle in this process which plays the role of a locomotive - this is the second component, which is more demonstrative, demonstrative than real from my point of view, about this bustle in the corner of which is the topic of the export of ukrainian grain, it is already a complete failure ahead, but here we must pay attention to the fact that this behavior is based not only on one's own interests president

erdoğan's political policies, and also that there is a group of states in the world that you remember once there was a group called a group of countries that did not join, which included india and yugoslavia, well, cuba, there is this dash that a number of countries are necessary, but in a strange way, but the messages announced by the president of indonesia, who visited ukraine this week, the prime minister of india and the president of turkey, they coincide, but there is nothing special here, because it means that, first of all, in this case which we are talking about, erdoğan is using the political situation in order to achieve some gains for himself