well, to go to safer cities, but now i’m looking in the frame, right here is this pokrovsky station. it has always been associated with me, you know, with coming home from kyiv, and my parents always met me there. and now this is the place, the first place of peace for those who is leaving the hot spots. please tell me , nevertheless, there are still people in pokrovsk. and how many people remain, what is the humanitarian situation, and now a lot of people are returning to us, those who were evacuated sometime in april, when the evacuation began but they come back and say no no we can do without our homes, but it is very dangerous, we emphasize every day that we still need to evacuate because, well, rockets fly every day and it is not clear where they will fly, you know, as they say, there are

50,000 people in the city right now, those who returned and those who did not they left , our infrastructure is working because communal facilities are all working in a reinforced mode 24/7, that's why everything works in our country, the markets are working because people know how when the president said that the country must be rebuilt and the economy must be raised then all our entrepreneurs came back and started their work because, well, everyone understands that everyone needs to work, we need to survive somehow, that's why everything works, the pharmacies started working, well, everything works, but when everything started it was very difficult, i went on the air and told that we were in a traffic blockade in we even have fuel now, but there was a time when we had nothing and we agreed with private entrepreneurs and provided them with fuel so

that they would only go and take those medicines so that people would not die in our country. thank you very much ms. margarita thank you for your work there in the deep rear, but in fact it is close to the front and let this front not go to your city, which is actually an evacuation point for many children that's all that's all that's all that's it thank you let's move on nataliya zarytska , the wife of the azov fighter, is in touch with us, we continue to discuss the topic of the donetsk region a-a recently, ukraine returned 144 of its fighters a-a from the defender, 95 azov defenders grew among them a-a they talked about it more than once a-a mrs. nataliya zarytska good morning to you good morning

since we last talked, there is not so much past tense, is there any news, actually, what can you tell in particular about the returned ones, how they are rehabilitated , are they coming back? well, what? for them to come to their senses, mastered, rehabilitated. because some of them, for example, lost up to 50 kg of personal weight, that's why they are in difficult conditions, the majority of returnees have amputated limbs, some have problems with the sight of words

he has hearing problems, he is deaf, many shrapnel wounds, lung problems, and therefore it is surprisingly difficult, nevertheless, he remains in captivity according to the latest data, more than 2.5 thousand defenders of azov steel, the president of ukraine, volodymyr zelenskyi , recently voiced such a figure and is there a connection with them? what do you know about them? yes, we know that most of them are in the deer pen . it is possible that in the nameless one there were also some places where they were. tell us what you know about in what conditions are ours now fighters and you know, if the conditions were acceptable, the russian federation would obviously allow international organizations to our fighters to our

defenders, but the aggressor state either blocks or partially blocks access to them, so we can only draw a conclusion that the conditions are very bad at the moment. we do not have any contact with them on a permanent basis. we do not know the exact location of their whereabouts, because my husband, in particular, as he was leaving the azovstal plant on may 17, said that he would probably be in the village of olenivka on the territory. the so-called dnr of the donetsk region of ukraine, so at the moment there is no confirmation that our fighters are actually there , the aggressor state does not confirm their exact whereabouts, does not allow us to communicate with them on a permanent basis and does not allow us to deliver parcels to them. so we have such an understanding sure, our

boys and girls are still sitting in those february winter clothes a-and if it's olenka a-and i'd say this colony is old, it's not adapted to such a large number of people a-and there have been problems there since time immemorial with water and currently we are not able to do anything mykolaenia's lawyer should be transferred there, and personally, i am worried about the number of wounded people who are still in the hands of the enemy, and i am worried about the girls who also have a large number of them there , so they should be returned, first of all, lawyer mykola polozov said that they are kept in colonies separately from prisoners in criminal cases, in fact, that's

all he was able to tell about our defenders, defenders of the azovstali a-a, or representatives of international organizations are also not allowed to visit them. and that's how we know about the initiative mykoly polozova, the search for captives, in general, in accordance with the geneva convention, they must be kept separate from criminal offenders, our defenders, this is a requirement of the geneva convention, but at the moment, we state that the russian federation is grossly violating the geneva convention, and not providing relatives with information about the defenders, not giving them the opportunity to communicate with them, and the geneva convention , it was adopted back in 1949, it changed

the obvious, it was such a civilizational development but currently in the 21st century, russia violates and does not comply with this convention, the russian government is apparently trying to fabricate a pseudo-terbunal, as well mykola poluzov spoke about it, it is clear that this is a rather complicated story, because we do not recognize any there, pseudo-formations in the occupied territories are also not recognized by our partners, and therefore it is especially difficult to fight against some illegal things in those territories, as you know about it, at the moment we do not have such reliable information about what exactly

can happen to our defenders, really different information comes from russian sources, but uh, we know the insidiousness of the enemy, we know that they actually spent a lot of effort and continue to spend on propaganda, they also need to tell something, and somehow explain and justify their actions to their people, to their electorate ah, but we, as relatives , know what russia is capable of, that the war is going on not only on the battlefields, but there is also an information war, so we perceive this information quite critically, although we know from history what methods can apply this state, what is actually known about

your husband, and when was the last time he contacted the men, he made himself heard on the 17th of may, when they were out of order, he wrote me two letters by e-mail and we had 10 minutes , yes called ether through a third-party number in telegram, but i know that he was writing something encrypted in our communication. hmmm, we could talk for 10 minutes. that's how blitz with short lines and then there is no contact with him, and i'm very worried by his fate although er he is a mere elder a soldier, a driver, an electrician, but who knows what russia will come up with there, and who knows how it will treat our heroes, because

it is clear what kind of attitude, and how many years russian propaganda has attached labels and demonized the azov regiment, and my husband is a senior soldier of the azov regiment, although this is a regiment of the national guard of ukraine, military unit 30-57. this is regular. well, the ukrainian army. what kind of terrorists are they? if these are our defenders, who focused enemy fire on themselves and covered it with themselves. and ukraine and europe and they simply protected us from the invasions of the russian occupation forces, these are heroes and these are real warriors whose feat is already recognized all over the world and japan even

excluded the regiment azov e-e terrorist organizations apologized e-e to our defenders and more e contributed their heroic deed to the code of bushido e the code e of real warriors and when the representatives of the japanese government were at the bases of azov they said that in japan there are people like azov and their are called samurai, but we also understand that on azovstal was not only the people of azov, there were also marines and border guards and representatives of the territorial defense and national police, many military units, and we are also aware of the mountains, the scale of it, and this is not only

azovstal for today. and these are other painful points these are the defenders of the chornobyl npp. the defenders of which workers have not yet been returned from captivity. and these are the brave men. the defenders of the snake island are also the prisoners from kharkov, odesa, chernihiv. all of them must be fought for and all of them must be fought for. to speak and return them home thank you ms. nataliya nataliya zarytska hm told about the situation with the captured fighters of azov, the defenders of azov steel thank you ms. nataliya for a-a that you have the strength to fight yes , we constantly keep this situation under control, we should not forget about it neither we nor e- er, not to us as

journalists, not to er, not to us, as well as consumers of information as citizens of ukraine, it happens because as long as we talk about it, er, there is a greater probability that er, our defenders will return to us as soon as possible. we are continuing our er, actually, our ether is our marathon, and right now, serhii zgurets , a military expert, is joining us, this is the kind of brushes. maybe we will comment and then we will move on well , in fact, what was predicted after the capture of lysychansk is happening, such an operational

pause does not actually occur and the enemy is trying to act in two main directions, which are directed at er, by means of intimidation, we can say that we can ensure access to the borders of donetsk region when we are talking directly about the enemy's attempts to storm our units there in the direction of sloviansk, this is when we are talking about attempts to enter bakhmut from above along the front line and from below from bakhmut in different ways using again a certain advantage in artillery. but if we look at the construction of the general staff, then there are no special successes directly and neither in the direction of bakhmut nor in the direction of slavyansk, which speaks of the level of our defense is quite good, and i think that in the future we will be able to stabilize the front line in this area, hanna malya, deputy

minister, said that the forces of the russian federation are gradually being depleted. there, too, they also join the opinion that what is this? maybe the narrative is completely wrong. well, i understand. i will not criticize the deputy minister now, and it is probably more obvious. well, nevertheless, can we even say that russia is running out of strength, what is this actually means that this means that we will soon go to some kind of counteroffensive, and today, by the way, we talked about this with mr. roman kostenko, a deputy there from the specialized defense committee, actually also an officer, and he talks about what we actually have a window of 2-3 months so that if we want to launch a counteroffensive, for example , in the south, in the south, we have a very small window

of opportunity, because then the front actually stabilizes, maybe even. well, if i understood correctly, at least until spring such an option and how is it? well, the first question is about russian e-e resources, now the russian federation is using a strategy that is connected with the creation of new e-e units using people from lymphonized regions, they are offered salaries somewhere within the limits of there uh, 200 there, 300,300,000 rubles in the first month of the contract, it is somewhere, as i understand it, in the range of two to three thousand dollars, while the average salary in these regions there is $400-500. that is, in fact, it is possible to bring down these reserve battalions in these regions, which actually are now are created and thus on a regular basis it refers to the conduct of hostilities in ukraine, that is why

such a low-skilled combat force in the russian federation will be in place for a certain time and it will precisely create these main irritants in relation not directly to those areas where attempts are being made today offensive actions on the part of the russian federation as well now somewhere by september 15th russia must form another third corps there so that they are now forming it in mulino somewhere there should be 15,000 personnel and it is also is being formed for those people from the categories that i mentioned earlier, these are volunteers, contract workers, people from depressed regions, this is a corps. well, if it is ready, maybe in a couple of months. that is, it will also be directly used for carrying out or on offensive actions or the strengthening of certain areas of the front where russia will feel the need, so that we can say whether there are

certain risks that we should approach the assessment of the introduction of hostilities as a long-term company, which the secretary actually confirmed today oleksiy danilov of the nsdc, more precisely, yesterday in one of the interviews, he said that the war will be long-lasting , because of this, we have to look at it differently in our economic, political and military life, that is all that the war will be long-lasting, what does it mean that we will continue to suffer huge losses every day. will it turn into something more like this? well, i don't know how it was in the situation with the ato when we had years of relative calm and just then it was possible to continue the risk. i asked from the point of view of the immortal . -er now we have er the possibility

of conducting contour offensive operations directly in the southern part of our country for two to four months, and in particular, to ensure the liberation of the kherson region, where we have sufficient prerequisites for this in view of the peculiarities of this territory and the possibility of us conducting offensive actions and limitations of the enemy's logistical capabilities. now in this area, the enemy is trying to improve its engineering positions there, to draw up additional forces, and therefore, indeed, if this is delayed, there is a certain balance forces will be formed again will be formed as in this area and it will really be difficult to carry out active offensive operations, at the same time, i think that the pace of determining certain military operations in certain directions is primarily really related not only to the number of personnel, which is

currently in the armed forces, but there is an additional amount of weapons and, most importantly, the ability to form combat units, because simply the number of questions does not solve the problem, i think this is what the general staff is doing now the two tasks are to completely balance the front line in donbas, to make it controllable so that the enemy stops offensive actions, given that we can actively deter them, and to speak of quality prerequisites for conducting a counterattack operation in the south, but the enemy is also he smart woman who understands for them this is not a secret. they are preparing the same line of defense in the kherson region. we also know everything, and here the question is also what for an active offensive. well, we read the same thing and we are already cysting agill ruslan zadevashova, a colleague of the azerbaijani who says that ukraine needs, well, his estimate is at least

plus 30% of fire sweat and in order to start an offensive in the southern direction. well, then there is the question of kherson itself, we definitely can not just destroy it with artillery, as the muscovites did. i apologize to the russians with mariupol, for example is it in lysichansk? that is, there will be battles and it will be a clean-up, it will be urban battles, and it is necessary before that. when we talk about the situation in the south , er, the vision of the future offensive, we have two key cities here - directly and kherson and er melitopol, which is actually the key to control over the whole south because kherson is in those conditions where it is easier for us to conquer, but when we talk about conquering kherson there, and of course we have to analyze a completely different strategy for returning this city under our control e- e we cannot destroy houses, and then in fact we have to move to the strategy of first

destroying the logistical highways around this city with high-precision weapons that we already have, we hope there will be more, and the second already to use other tactics of warfare, relying on the same or destructive munitions to minimize losses in areas where people may be, this is usually a difficult operation to liberate a city where we want to minimize collateral losses, so i think it will be a serious challenge for the ukrainian army. but i hope that we will solve it with dignity, we also constantly talk about military aid, for example, great britain will provide a new package of military aid to ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi and boris johnson have agreed the british government informed about this during telephone negotiations, the prime minister of great britain

talked about the latest military equipment, in particular , 10 self-sufficient artillery systems and a mikadze drone, which will arrive in the coming days and weeks , in this context, we often talk about the fact that the necessary the number of weapons and then it will be possible that there will be a turning point in the war or our counteroffensive, but it is already coming gradually, something has already arrived at the front, something is destroying the enemy, and how many weapons must be collected in order to something like that, is such an option possible at all, what about this package itself, just a little bit of details, what 10 self-propelled guns can be, and whether it is a lot or is it a lot, how much is it really no no no no critical indicators because really if we are talking about what the enemy relatively speaking, from the point of view of the art system, ukraine has about 1,500 artillery

systems and about 700 e rszvr. that is, we say these figures are 1,500 and 700. of course, today we received about 300 e-e howitzers of caliber 155 and we also have soviet e- e systems but really an increase in artillery means is extremely necessary for us, but from the point of view of britain, as above all other components of british aid have been singled out when we talk about the fact that the personnel should be effectively trained . of ukraine for every three months there are 10,000, that is to say, there are 2-3 brigades if they are really going to be trained there or on the territory of

britain or with the use of british instructors and receive a high-quality output, knowing also foreign weapons and tactics, which are most relevant in the conditions of hostilities with the russian federation, this will be a significant help to ukraine, it is not a problem in the number of personnel, the problem is high-quality trained e-e reserves capable of replacing those combat brigades that already have combat experience but have been engaged in hostilities with the enemy for a long time and are, to put it mildly, a little tired, we need a trained combat-ready reserve and now this is the main condition for the ability of the ukrainian army to withstand long-term hostilities, in our conversation we moved so smoothly to international topics. and it is worth noting that russia has begun to withdraw military equipment from the border with finland, according to the finnish state television and radio company, they have published satellite images on the network that show a russian

military unit, it is located there in the murmansk region , it is approximately 70 km from the border with finland and here is alla kurti, which once belonged to finland until the 39th year. so journalists are taken out of there, and armored vehicles and finnish soldiers military expert marko eklund assumed that these russian soldiers were sent to fight in ukraine literally briefly, we only have a few minutes. do you think this is somehow related to the accession of finland to nato, or is it possible. are there any other reasons i think that the only explanation is related to the losses of personnel of the russian federation during this period of time, we destroyed about 30% of the most useless units of the russian federation in terms

of the number of personnel. that is, we say about 30,000 and multiply by three when we mention the wounded and now these illuminated units about which i said they will now be formed from other regions and from the year all of them are more or less without capable units and coastal troops of the russian federation and marines, their most combat-ready battalions already were thrown into ukraine, where they were destroyed, and now we are talking, conditionally speaking, about scraping the remains of all e-e coast troops and marines in order to somehow strengthen again those units that conduct combat operations on the territory so i think that the main reason is that , relatively speaking , it will be easier for the countries that joined nato to live, this is precisely the stability of our defense and the effective redrawing of the enemy on the territory of ukraine, since we have literally minutes left. i know why two minutes

, are we going to tell you something else? well, let 's talk about this attack on the military base in melitopol. there are already more details . of the enemy, which were destroyed in the depth of his defenses, this is just evidence that these samples of weapons, about which we say that they arrive slowly, yes, they arrive slowly from the point of view of our wishes and needs, but what appears it gives a noticeable result, even those howitzers that previously they arrived, they allowed us to hold back the enemy's defenses in the same donbas, inflict significant losses on him, and the use of the hibernians, what he says, can be read both in melitopol and in snizhny and in donetsk, where, relatively speaking, the wards begin russian warehouses says that one of the

components of the tactics of the armed forces at the current stage has become such an effective point use of new types of weapons that have an advantage in comparison with soviet models that are in service with the russian federation . express was with us on the communication foul you know how to say michael if it works so well four gamers give the ukrainians 40 no give the ukrainians 400 we are only with you well 9 in the morning soon daily nationwide minute of silence for those who died as a result of the bloody russian aggression in ukraine , now we will honor with a minute of silence the memory of the ukrainian military and peaceful citizens of ukraine who died in the war that started it