and no, aggressors, let's listen and then continue our conversation. there are only two options for how this will all end. the first is the next putin, let's say . relations and russia have nothing to do with it, this is only because there was a person who led the state before him and these are his personal problems, he is a maniac there or something. well, how was it with stalin? well, yes, de-stalinization, depatriation, and everything is blamed on his other version - it's just the propaganda of russia, not several parts of three or more, can we see the previous one? there are already some possible figures of this receiver, this is a process. right now, some kind of savvy struggle is going on for this, or is it a cons, as they say, the towers of the

kremlin must find some kind of consensus among themselves can we name, for example, these people, there is no need to interfere with this so, mr. general, we have repeatedly talked with you about what russia will be like after our victory and what will actually happen to russia, will vladimir putin be removed from power, or something the collapse of these united republics will happen. after four months of war, what do you think about how to fight racism, which has already entered russian society even after that? if putin leaves power, well, first of all, this is the scenario which budanov says. these are just such. well, if we are already talking about the system, the approaches are here, er, it is necessary that the conditions for this

be met, er, the conditions are very er, an important situation, er, it is built on precisely those system programs, the losses and losses of the russian federation and in the first it will be a turn if we can really break the situation very effectively, not to drag out the process, not to freeze any conflicts, and to come to some kind of peace, but accordingly, the completion and liberation of the territory and not the defeated russian troops, but a really real victory, and for this, we need , as we said, those just that we have cutting resources more than a million even there are weapons of western partners and trained our troops several tens already thousands may be and accordingly our military-industrial complex using the capabilities of our partners, not only in the form of sanctions, but also in the form of operational intelligence , others, the prospect of successful operations in the south of ukraine, in the east, and if you are speaking in general, if this process begins, i said gorbachev, then in this situation it can really be

. first, it can be the south, just it is a very important situation that we conducted a strategic operation there . he has been saying for a long time that somewhere you will start there, but they must be prepared comprehensively, for example, in the kherson and zaporizhzhia directions. olesya should not have any progress, progress of the disease it is important and water today is positive, but it is necessary to prepare strategically offensive operations, as we have said more than once, which will not only go conditionally , but which will be comprehensive at the same time and the style from the flanks to the version in the center will be carried out, then there will really be prerequisites that there will be a huge panic when the panic begins in the south, it will spill over to the east, this is a prerequisite for the collapse of some offensive operations, and in the south, in the east, and this is actually a prerequisite for panic in putin's entourage, here all the prerequisites can cause problems with the removal of putin until now, so that our intelligence does not say that, at the moment, putin completely controls his entourage in various ways

, as we said, his partners control each other, he controls the partners in this situation, and in fact all sectors of security, defense , political, administrative, financial are under his control control in a triple, quadruple format without services of different formats and the like, when there was a violation of the monolith and strict control by putin, when there will really be real failures like we we say, they saw that the king was already shaving, so in this situation they have to save themselves, the regime will save itself, and there are several scenarios here, or they will really offer to come for a while, because there are no prospects at all, the security forces will come and take over the situation without saving the regime and will negotiate with the west from ukraine according to some conditions, the withdrawal wars will stop, but the preservation of russia as a whole, on the other hand, can come civilly, as we say. well, sobyanin is the mayor of moscow, who are otherwise not involved in military operations, they can even talk we didn't even know that the war would start

so realistically. they didn't bring them there on foot. well, sobyanin, the korienko is already claiming what directions and playing the game, what we didn't know, we, as democratic civilians, are ready to start a model of cooperation. regarding the termination of the reparations war and the change of the regime as a whole in e-e russia, but to agree, but taking into account the position of putin's social influence, it is possible that he remained in the russian federation under their control, that is, putin chose some kind of model of protection and guarantees to replace it the use of, for example, nuclear weapons or the deployment of military operations in constant directions. but what will come of real victories ? and the entire

encirclement of this group must be prepared for this in the near future and their huge retreats. and the most important thing is the panic until then, there will be no movements of the russian federation, they will be teeth cut out, collect the favorite reserves of criminal mercenaries and throw away the top of the war and hold the defense, they are generally trying to recon the war and keep contingents on the borders of ukraine, constantly provoking new military operations. good day and good health to you. thank you for participating in our program. good day. in particular, in donetsk region and part of luhansk region, which is still under the control of ukrainian troops, but we know that the enemy is now attacking the

infrastructure in the south, in particular, this night, the russians targeted the port infrastructure of odesa region . maksym marchenko, the head of the odesa regional state administration and our air defense units, reports this missiles were shot down and it is clear that one of the goals of the russian occupiers is to cut off ukraine from the ports and from the south they have already done it in mariupol, odesa remains. well, in the south part of the south-western part of ukraine, how do you now, uh, consider the possibility that the russians will start to deploy a special operation there, their special operation more actively after the actual capture of luhansk oblast. now they are proceeding to donetsk oblast, or will they then go

south? well, now most of their battalion tactical groups, and there are about 18 of them currently operating in ukraine on the part of russia. russia has concentrated on the east and the south, so far it has relatively few troops, but it is the crimean peninsula. such and such has turned into such and such into such a generator of military power and this new equipment that arrives just to the south, it goes mainly through the crimea through the crimean kerch bridge and now and in fact every day about 100 pieces of equipment leave crimea and enter the russian crimea for repair and -e return there to reinforce the units located in the south of ukraine, they really fear that our troops are from

the territory of the south and this will greatly complicate their situation in the south, the south is needed in the first place queue in order to a-a provide crimea with water and a transport artery and so on. and here we have such a serious opportunity to deprive them of this a-a this er-e this capability, but well, they have really now regrouped their missile capabilities, primarily coastal missile systems, they relocated them from the crimea to the kherson region, and from there they are actually shelling our port places and such, as you said, first of all, this is mykolaiv, odesa, and thank god that our officers and officers of the military are able to to intercept these missiles. and i want to remind you that

they shoot p800 onyx packages over sound missiles, and it is not very easy to do it, but i guess somehow they adapted to it, but uh, well, ha-35 plus missiles, again let's not forget about the caliber of missiles, their number is generally decreasing, but they are there, and yesterday they were launched again, again, they were koliban missiles over the continental part of ukraine. in general, the russian black sea fleet is currently performing two operational tasks. and at sea from the sea the first direction is a project - it's forces and it's carried out by means of missile strikes, which you and i are talking about, and my friend - it's an airborne landing, well , now they've put a little pause on the airborne forces, the 810th brigade, now they're involved in

hostilities in the south of ukraine and including the caspian regiment of marines, but their ships are in the crimea and are undergoing planned preliminary repairs and are in principle preparing for the landing, that is, this task has not been removed, and it makes it a little more difficult for the russians because, ah, we are it means they destroyed these gas platforms on which they were observing us and the snake island in the city of m. we pushed them out of there, they also developed in the interests of the landing force and the second operational task is the blockade and the isolation of the northwestern part of the black sea. they are doing this now in order to in order not to allow our economy to work and to neutralize our small naval forces of the armed forces of ukraine together with the naval units of the state border service,

this task, and i do not think that they significantly strengthened this the region by those groups that may be freed from the luhansk region because they have taken over the luhansk region because they have been fighting for a long time and i think that they will simply be taken to a-a for some recovery there but what is it that they are preparing for such offensive actions of ours? it is obvious and obvious that they are currently using their advantage precisely in missile strikes. well, here you can see zmiiny island, they were storing equipment here on this pier, which i think they secretly wanted to take out of island there was a system, a system, a tornado, a fuel

tank, but our barracker destroyed it, and the other, their equipment, which they left on the island, or their line, they destroyed the su-30 with phosphorus bombs, but apparently i think that they were a little afraid of what - well, our divisions can find out what components were there, although in principle there is already a lot of information on this, this is the situation, that is, the sea, it remains threatening, there is a certain acquisition of ours there, we now have a missile system, but well, the russians are adapting to it. i think that they have not removed any operational task and will simply carry it out in a different way. thank you, mr. andriy p. mykola, we are also talking about the crimean bridge when we talk about the future

of southern ukraine, because the russian mass media are already talking about the fact that the russians have strengthened air defense and protection of the crimean bridge to repel a possible attack by the armed forces of ukraine, we see that it has been continuing for the past few days, and that the ukrainian army is achieving those goals that it could not achieve before, and it is obvious we are talking about the fact that the ukrainian army is getting new weapons, the latest western weapons, which allows you to do this, or, in your opinion, can the ukrainian army now attack the crimea through this kerch bridge and put an end to the supply of weapons through this bridge and through the crimea the peninsula is already on the mainland of ukraine, mr. mykolo, well, first of all, it should be

noted that there is a strategic problem, eh. the territory of the russian federation. it is clear. as for the crimean bridge in particular, russia has repeatedly threatened that if we really launch such strikes, it is clear that they will hit all our centers. they said decision-making, including kyiv pechersk, all the missiles, but the threat to us is not it may not mean as we have already said, but in this situation and our partners really insist on refraining from making such decisions regarding strikes on the crimean bridge, therefore in this situation i i think that this will not happen in the near future, and the second situation is purely voskret. our forces and means, uh, we don't have those, unfortunately, unfortunately, we lost contact

with mykola malomhuj . to cut the artery for the crimean peninsula because, well, actually, we know that the russians quite often threaten ukraine that if an attack is made on some important objects of the russian federation, they consider the crimean bridge theirs, then they will give a worthy response, namely to the decision-making centers in particular regarding kyiv, we are talking about kyiv as well. well, they always threaten in general and, well, as it were, well, i think that there is such a technical possibility. so, i think that the russians know about it because, well, the feature of this is precisely that they are currently conducting training on camouflage using this homemade curtain, and

it’s interesting in the footage you showed because it’s very beautiful, it’s possible to see in this big ship’s shield, now i think it’s going to be with inflatable corners, corner reflectors, well , in russian, it’s corner reflector is called and here is this technical means. it is precisely intended for one to imitate a large ship in the course of e-e artillery rocket artillery shots for, well, in order to detect it e-e with radar means, that is, this object that is now standing near the bridge it is intended as such, yes, er, well, it’s like a trap for da kavu, a radio grand-official trap, so that the missile is aimed at him or something else, well

, some kind of guided weapon, that is . here is this one shields have been installed there, and here it is all saturated with these corner radar reflectors, here they see some kind of threat, oh, well, again, our plans are real , they are located. so confidential, but what is this main logistical artery that provides activity now this can be seen this is a large ship's eye these are cylindrical such things this is the answer - a radar sight here they are just everyone so here he is they think that if there is a missile or some kind

of guided weapon there, the missile will go right at the right, right, right, right, right, right, right? there was no way to discuss there. i didn’t start. i think that the operational planning apparatus is in progress, but right now we see that strikes are being carried out precisely on the logistics centers in the east, including already about 20 of these 20 ammunition caches, they were just destroyed, well, let’s see thank you mr. andrii again broke my husband's connection with us. mykola, will the hands of the ukrainian army reach the crimean bridge? we remember how long they built this bridge, and we remember how in 1943 the germans built such a bridge in order to to connect the crimea itself with the then russian territory and the city did not last,

it did not last, there were a lot of discussions about this bridge, in any case, with the arrival of ukraine, it is obvious that something will have to be done with this bridge . what do you think will be the fate of this bridge? in the future, well, first of all, once again we conclude that there is really no political pain yet in order to carry out some special operation on the bridge, but first of all we have the technical means, but there is no treatment of our allies and our leadership is not ready for such a large-scale operation, it is clear that it is the union, i will explain that everything will be solved a new format of war, but russia threatens that it will carry out missile strikes on all decision -making centers in ukraine and on other centers, that is, there is still no political will, a military decision is understandable, but the preparation of the park format of odessa and i think that this is a prospect during already deep offensive operations, we will use a different method

in order to sow it without looking at those means of distraction and so to speak, the technical means that are there are different methods, how can you blow up a bridge or, for example, carry out appropriate measures e-e with not appreciating these forces, we also have the capabilities of space intelligence, we have the possibility of strategic e-e cells that can be used has the ability to conduct special operations just on the bridge, but i still say we have not come to that yet but i think that the preparation is so active and the decisive moment itself is made for the future. i think that if russia developed and indeed the future is such a check for 500. i think that today, if it is preserved, that place can be a kind of bridge of communication for various tms related to no longer with military equipment , but for example, for reparations, the supply of all the means that will be with russia, even the construction of ukraine, oh, everything must be used for the interests of ukraine, this bridge is included, or it should be blown

up in some way specifically, i think no sense, if we really demeter the russian federation, it will have no prospects for the revival of its aggressive systems and regimes. this is the situation. i think that we should not destroy anything , because we often came. interests, and even more so, in the strategic interests of ukraine after the war, one more question to mr. andrii regarding the future of sea ports and the ways we used before the war, because now there is a big discussion in to the world regarding the supply of ukrainian grain via sea routes from ukrainian ports, vladimir putin is playing crazy, he says that no one is stopping them, let them demine the ports and that's it. it will be possible to do it calmly according to your estimates, when and in what way ukraine can restore these routes and

use them well, given that the russian fleet dominates the north of the black sea now, the main threats now for ships that can deliver grain from the ports of ukraine are the first missile threat, and the second is the mine threat. and er er er er er these two threats need to be neutralized in some way, really the easiest way is the political way if russia says everything we don't touch we respect the organization of the united nations it means that we respect everything. but it turns out that nadia is very difficult. that's why i think that

we need to really conduct a reconnaissance mine in any case of our ports if such an agreement is reached because accordingly , it is a threat, there is a lot of discussion about where these mines come from they appeared there, very quite, very strangely, they appeared there. well, and in that quality and quantity, well , now they are showing it here. according to the idea, if such a small anchor mine breaks away from the minpu, then she should direct it to be deactivated. they are not deactivated for some reason. there are a lot of questions there, and i know that there was an identification of these mines in accordance with the factory numbers from delhi, and there was also a lot of interesting things there, but now it is simply necessary physically that these mines should not be on the fords of these ports, and after that it is necessary to ensure the passage of these uh

of these humanitarian convoys well, i have already passed the bosphorus, it is possible to do this through the central part of the black sea, but it will be faster, but the threat there may be greater, because again, this is all directed by the russian federation, there may be a missile attack there, and there may also be a submarine torpedo attack there and so on, you can do it through the coastal waters of the countries on the western coast of the black sea, that is, ukraine, and then romania, bulgaria, turkey, and the waters there are not so deep, so turkey is actually ours russian submarines cannot operate within the kirvot because the depth there is less than 50 m, but these boats that are now in russia, as a

rule, operate freely from 200 m and are limited at depths from 50 to 200 meters, so here i am today there was a statement by president erdoğan to the effect that the decision should be made within 10 days, and turkey is really acting very actively , and representatives of the united nations and ukraine and the russian federation are involved. well, again, the whole threat is coming out . well, from russian in the federation, if there is no such political press and responsibility, then they will continue to do what they were doing. at the end of february, when they simply shot at the ships that entered our ports, such as odesa, that's all

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