learned or a teacher or well, that is, a large number of people are connected to our field, our whole society is roughly divided in half, that is, monitoring the situation shows that i am three groups of people, the first group of people she is for the offline world, the second group of people is categorically against offline education and for online and there about 10%, they flow here and there. if there is a great week in kyiv, there are no rocket attacks, then they are all zooplans if you are there . as a rocket arrived on sunday, they are all immediately online, well, this is the situation on the president's website which received the appropriate number of votes in order to ban offline students in ukraine in general and to stop this discussion, the president will probably have to respond to this petition with your help, but we really personally think that if we ban offline education in ukraine therefore, we will lose a certain generation of our ukrainians, we will lose our human capital

, we will lose our potential working hands, and we will lose a lot as a nation. well, the question of online education arose in our country first. crowns of the crisis. yes, the coronavirus, and we all saw that here, for example, that online education is suitable for university students, for schoolchildren. it has completely different sides, other sides, and other realities, and even here, the problem is not that teachers do not organize this process well enough, but the question in because children are children and we are, how long have we been in such a semi-online educational process for what year? yes, in the third year, there are parents who are categorically for categorically against, and those who categorically have parents have a very common argument why we studied the zakonovirus online and it was not a problem and now we are considering whether to go to

school or not i think that the main problem why we are talking about this is precisely because we were already studying during the coronavirus and lost, well , in fact, two years of full-fledged education if we were to start from scratch now, we would go online. i think that this question was not discussed with her, we would go online, we would have a year there, we would have endured a year and we would have left again, we would have returned to school, god forbid, but now that it is about the third year, i i think that's why yes, the question arises, er, let's also divide , that is, if higher education is there, it is either professional-technical or professional, there are specialties from this humanitarian orientation . and there are doctors, there are train drivers, pilots, that is, how can they study online, that is, in principle well, let's call a spade a spade if the pilot will study online for five years. well, how come they say that i'm not this plane. let's add to your conversation, er, we know blogger,

journalist, daddy, because er, tetyana has a koblyk. your interesting position regarding the educational process online or offline and it is interesting to listen to her opinion tatyana good night, welcome to the night watch, i suggested you turn on the live broadcast when i read posts or comments in one of your readers saying that if my school goes online, i i am taking a child from this school, tell me. this is what your position is. good night. mainly , my position is that i gave birth to a child in order for her to live a long and happy life. it happened that in the country 9 years ago. well, no, 9 years, and more than eight years ago, the war started, of course, no, you, no, i, no one could have predicted it, and no one could have stopped it. but now, as a mother, i must do everything in my power to

protect the life and health of my child, and none the inventions of mr. skarlat and his colleagues will not force me to send my child to a school where, in fact, the fraternal grave is beautifully decorated, cleaned, and decorated , because if we look at the data on shelters that we have, in particular, kyiv, until february 24, and i will remind you that by february 24, i applied to well, in fact, in all state and city institutions, regarding the fact that they must conduct an audit of the shelters, they must check whether everything meets the safety standards, they must conduct training for pedagogical workers, you know what i heard in response, the easiest thing i heard, don't force it and

think, please positive. can we then ask a practical question? i understand very much that you are worried about the life and health of your child . for example, in distance learning, i suspect that you are probably not with her all the time, like many parents, and what does she do during an air alert and how is it different from what she would do at school, or do you feel more certain that she will leave at home she won't go to a shelter by herself, but to school under the supervision of teachers, what is the logic here? i see the logic in the fact that there must be an adult near her at home, due to the fact that i also have a second, younger child at home . i will be able to find a normal shelter will meet the safety standards at our school, we have a

basement. i understand that the basement was cleaned up a bit, and decorated, as the teachers say , recently they put their strength and wisdom into it, but this basement will not turn into a shelter in any way, even if water is put in there even if you put a bio-toilet there, even if you lay it with pretty tiles. even if you do everything very nicely and beautifully there, it does not turn into a shelter, because a shelter is the first time that reinforced structures are reinforced overlapping of the fortification of the wall i live in an area in which i remember walking around i apologize i need to specify uh maybe if you have a professional uh knowledge there on protecting

the population from emergency situations but still what is a shelter what is it's not a shelter, let's let it be determined by experts from the state emergency service, only they can say what a shelter is because it seemed to me well, maybe it was just incorrectly formed that you just said there that all the schools in the country don't have them though well, it's just such a strap, let's all i didn't say that. wait until august. only eight schools in ukraine have such 8% coverage. 8 cm eh, i think that well, you have the right to such a position, it is sufficiently well-argued, but eh, i live in kyiv and i am near my house, and even at my house, i do not know of shelters that ensured the safety of my children, and it seems to me that the majority of ukrainians

marichka very aptly asked the question if the child stays at home for online education, yes, and parents are at work in most cases, not everyone can ensure the presence of someone nearby e in order to evacuate child well, then why should we stop the educational process in the country at all, i can afford it marko, if friends allow it, i absolutely know from such so- called verified sources that a-a and in some cities of ukraine during the air raid a-a hmm people who live in different high-rises go down to the storage facility of the educational institution because, ah, they feel safer there, with their words, well , you know what it’s called, for what i bought it for that and sold it.

residents of the district, and this shelter is located in a school , and they calculated it for 150 people. but it is there, and it is marked in the school . in the case of online education, evacuate your child to a safe place in a shelter near home, well, near home. this is the only thing, this is a school and another place is clear. thank you for the opportunity. ukrainians can only envy you that you have such an opportunity. just it is designed for a limited number of people, uh, we know, yes, depending on the school that can accept children there, yes, even with the fact that the norm is 500 children, the school already manages to accept a thousand in our realities, but less, but the shelter provides a certain the number of

people allowed, roughly speaking, to be found in this case, who will be given priority, and again, the founders of educational institutions, that is, the leaders who are appointed here, they must create a flexible educational process that will be calculated for changes i.e. there may be a time change there, for example frankiv, and two shifts in the afternoon may be monday tuesday four or tuesday wednesday friday, we recommend also using the saturday time in order to start this educational process and only those schools there will be open there are a number of places in the shelters, the shelters will provide shelter for all the participants of the educational process who will be at school at this particular time, and if it is possible , i want to say this to this lady, we must give people the right to choose, it is very difficult the choice, but we have to provide it. who wants to go offline, who doesn’t want to, has the absolute right to definitely do online. who wants to can

use the blender-lonen there. that is, this combination online is absolutely ready. well, i understand, we said at the beginning yes, one teacher will be i am forced to teach offline in my class and then additionally introduce lessons for those children whose parents decided to stay online in principle. not much of the best. yes, i taught from 2000 to 2020. not yet. well, i know this story. i know what the load is on the teacher and the teacher during the online process. what online processes are based on their preparation, conducting and after checking the results. it is three times more difficult than offline education . that is, i am speaking entirely from my own experience . there is definitely such a problem now, not all

schools are staffed with teachers . because of the war, they moved to other safe areas. i know that in the city of kyiv mathematicians and physicists, if there was a shortage before, now there is no shortage at all in the city of kyiv, that is, temporary relocation and people from the luhansk and donetsk regions. i know that they submitted applications for a place works and these statements will be on saturday, i will casually ask you if there are plans to optimize the academic year in terms of terms for children as well as for higher educational institutions who will go to study on august 15. and by the end of november they will pass all exams and they will actually finish the first semester early , they will sit at home for 2.5 months when we will not have the opportunity to heat the premises or schoolchildren because of something like this can happen, i think that if there are, let’s say, difficulties in providing heat to

our schools, then we will definitely be able to transfer the school to online education so, for now, it is not yet understood about making a tighter schedule for walking on saturdays, so that there is no overload of children in classes and no overload in general, depending on the number of places in shelters, that is, that is why it is necessary to optimize this educational processor. then you were once interested in the recent israeli experience, how they solved this issue of life in danger of rocket attacks. yes, we were interested in this experience. the only thing is that there is such a small nuance that they have home-made rockets that fly towards them and ours is a professional army from above, well, with weapons that hit. therefore, it is a little easier for them to deal with these missiles, because they are manufactured there, somewhere nearby, equipped with a shelter, they conduct trainings and have one and a half minutes to go down there and feel

safe absolutely to this we are going to this we are also making changes to the protection of the program of the defense of the homeland there we will be, well, unusual for us rycha-rechach for example mine safety, the same thing will be done and training will be and in our equation. also, it is prescribed that training should be carried out with the scientific and pedagogical teaching staff. if there is no school there, but somewhere nearby there is a shelter or a dual purpose or subway, it must be there and noted. it must be it has been worked out to automatism, well, friends. well, summing up our block, i would like to say that ukrainians should understand that the state and educators are doing everything today, and the ministry and the parliament and teachers and school directors are doing everything to ensure that the educational process begins on september 1 in any in what form yes online offline if the school has the capacity to make a shelter yes the school is doing it now everyone has

focused their efforts on this result and sometimes in our society there are very polar critical point of view here, i think that the conclusion should be to respect each other's opinion and to understand that there is no 100% solution for everyone, we wish the correct storage made a really correct logical step that friends, the choice is what you choose, the main thing is that you will get it because, well , we were very lost in general , word got around that what you want is optional. and it is not only parents who will guide their children, but also the pedagogical staff of school directors, which roughly speaking is the case. where do you have a choice? well, because we know that in our country education is usually famous the voluntary-coercive nature of all actions yes, but here at least it is stated that there is a voluntary choice , and this is actually the most important thing: you have a choice and only you make it. it seems to me that in our

broadcast today, 80% of ukrainians are ready to return to ukraine if the schools are open . yes, and this figure has majorities now before everyone and all of us should not speculate about this struggle yes online offline there is a repository which it is necessary to trust now the state the ministry our officials who are also doing this and will help we are already talking about our children, so friends, we are all dealing with this issue, we discuss it, someone solves it practically, but the main thing is that we keep ourselves in our hands and believe and prepare children for education in any way andriy vitrenko was in our studio as a guest the first deputy minister of education e.e. night watch well, then we will talk about fakes e. how the russians introduce their theses and their messages into our society, we will debunk them in a few

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talk about russian fakes and do this column , we are together with the center for countering disinformation at the nsdc , and we have traditionally as a guest andriy shapovalov , the head of this center. good evening. and colleagues, our past broadcast literally blew up the network. that the occupiers captured something, something, uh, french guns, which long ago, europe already had a million 200,000 views, and as of now , maybe even more. and i suspect that this broadcast will be, well , no less explosive. we did not prepare for this, but literally today , the russians again started spreading the same story about the same caesars, and the center was forced to counterattack again and

tell extensively about where the lies are, what the russians are manipulating, where did it seem from the first time it reached them even from the second from the third and even from the fourth this is the technology of many repetitions when they repeat the same thing hoping that someone didn’t hear someone didn’t see someone didn’t quite understand and in principle well why do what is basically a good fake let ’s have it twist it again as they are spreading it through the same media or others who they are using this time in order to launch uh-uh fake is that allegedly russia captured a-ah a-ah two 155 mm installations provided by france a-ah howitzers caesar and now the russians have uh such weapons in their arsenal and uh don't give ukraine any more weapons because they don't know how to use them and the terrible and evil russians will take everything away from them and oh-oh-oh do

n't do that anymore well that's all this is complete nonsense, this nonsense is driven by completely pseudo-experts, and we also talked a lot about this a-a, these are supposedly er-e scientists, allegedly, maybe they are really scientists, but these are russian canned goods, a-a, according to which we already have, in principle, an evidence base e- there are several dozen if not hundreds of such experts. there are three of them the parts are not divided into those who are openly for russia and those who sympathize yes and those who condemn but not everything is so clear-cut, that is, of course, russian logic, let's just put together the puzzle, what was uh, russia is throwing out a fake so that they were able take possession of french installations, they are beaten in the mouth, friends say you are lying, after receiving the spawn, they again say that we have taken over

the installations. to the enterprise as the ural wagon plant, well, for the sake of solidity, okay, if they are investigated at the ural wagon plant, then what to do with the reports of the russians themselves that this plant is suspending its work and from there, well, if they cut people, then it turns out, well, the mythical russians took over the installations and brought them to the non-working plant well, that is, let's stop when we started to study well, it's clear, that is, how much do you understand, even the fact that andriyu voiced one and a half million views, that's not a million, 200,000 eh, fast forward but but wait after today, i think there will definitely be personal responsibility, one thing is that we didn't just gather here, you know, they gave a jury to liars

that they are making up something about ukraine, the very refutation of these stories is a very painful story , but really painful and the fact that not even a week has passed as they are spreading it again, they are not talking about the fact that this is a very painful story, they are talking about the fact that i apologize for the tautology, a very, very painful story, but let's talk about the more complex, complex manipulations carried out by the russians, this is frank falsification of documents is very important. it's an interesting story because, well, it's one thing to read some post in telegram, and another when you're shown some document that seems to be signed by the ministry of defense of ukraine or by the head of some department, where they write about well, i don't know what. well about the fact that ukraine is giving up its territories. yes, and what documents do they influence some citizens who are not critical of

this and believe what is written, how does this tool work and how actively the russians use it, they use it actively a-a they work depending on the quality of the prepared documents, i brought maps with me. if necessary, i will show you that there are real documents that the russians distribute, for example, the ministry of education and science allegedly issued an order to conduct an e-e with an e-e to provide to each graduate the characteristics of the school. regarding his military patriotic setting, but the signature is a signature. well, there is a digital signature, uh, today, digital document management and, in principle, a qr-code. and this is actually a signature, and if you think critically, you can indicate it. please show me please, this is the third illustration according to ours , it is probably because it is so widespread, it is also a claim, in fact, this is absolutely not real

, that is, his original number was taken, and the bribe is to take a qr-code and already after a-a and this replacement for the middle er-e if it works, it works well, russian disinformers, of course, what are they doing, well, they are at least trying to create an illusion that something is similar to the truth, why because this is the only ministry , the ministry of education, which word of minister is always capitalized, even after the word deputy and here is a deputy with a capital letter and a minister with a capital letter, but if you point to the qr-code, you will get to a completely different document that exists in the database, and it is clear that such a thing cannot be, er, it is a more or less decent forgery, er, well, where although somehow it does, and most likely the lower part remains, well , the middle is replaced, that is, with respect to the deputy

minister, this is taken, and then the photographer, and the target, then this is such a document, so the viewer read it, so this was cast by friends of the ukrainian society on the 11th, or the father, or another the grandmother who sees this document is worse they say that this is a sound that has grown up, graduates from school instead of the institute, will go to the front to fight. and how does it spread, through which channels does it appear, well, it appears from z-z-z-z -z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-d more and more, the network of pro-russian telegram channels is being picked up, and how do they repost one another? by the way, we made a very interesting conclusion about telegram channels, that in principle, no one reposts them, that is, a huge network, which is created by them in a circle repost each other and thank god for that, everything stops in our

information space. you have never met such an information bubble. you have created your own information bubble, and most of all, it is based on uh-uh, there was also a story about ukrainian men who are abroad on the territory of ukraine. there is a document about the military part to the participants of the national information defense from the coordinator of the operational direction about the fact that let's just as if the directors showed about the mobilization of ukrainians from poland yes comment on it he you say there is, yes, there is a printout, of course, we saw it, we did a repost about it in a row. here it is, and this is actually a screenshot from our telegram channel. i recommend to subscribe to subscribe who is not subscribed and in viber telegram,

subscribe because it is important to receive a quick message. about the bubble language and about the real situation, you can see that the information is absolutely verified, because we check it very often and already in these months of work we have built a fairly large database . send to make a census and send back to ukraine with caesars no no this is exactly what we can defend this day if not only with salad and if only with caesar salad well, so that allegedly all men who left for poland er-er were urgently returned and mobilized a-a we were informed about this information by our colleagues from poland, they saw it first of all. either it is in polish or in polish, and it was more widely distributed in the

polish public. for example, it is possible to understand at all, well, it is more likely that you understand. but do you actively track where this throw is made from, for example, from which territory, when, for example, judo takes place? from the territory of ukraine currently not controlled by us, is it possible that it is some kind of agency in poland, because in poland too, is it russian nu logic of distribution, what is it supposed to be the original source, i.e. where did it come from and this first source, in principle, can be traced thanks to the corresponding software, and according to certain words, according to certain links, it can be found, and in principle, we can see the original source for each of them