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this is not an intellectual revolution - these are emotions and they will really, let's say, disappear in comparison according to the decrease in the intensity of hostilities, and i always give chechnya as an example in this sense, because pay attention well, the russians simply wiped chechnya off the face of the earth with 90 there from the fourth year to 2005, in fact, but now young chechens are chechens, for example, my generation or even the younger, younger generation, they fight for the russian federation. the ukrainian war and what happened there, that is, this memory, this tsifral, was completely erased by russian propaganda and management, and you should not think that this war today, which is going on in ukraine between russia and ukraine, will radically change the attitude to the russian operation in odessa, kyiv
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, and the dnipro and even in the western regions, exactly there are people who are simply disproportionality in their own essence and even the drop in accounts is not such an argument well, but it is obvious that russian peace has landed on some good ground which fueled by the same propagandists in russia , including pro-russian parties and pro-russian politicians, we saw that over the past 30 years we had a whole pool of politicians who worked openly for moscow, that is, moscow gave cheap or discounted gas, and more than one generation of politicians and businessmen grew up on this and people who, let's say , used this service. although this service was in exchange for loyalty to moscow, i remember the endless negotiations between ukraine and russia. before every winter period, russia and constantly blackmailed the leadership, starting with
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kravchuk and ending, well, in fact, under poroshenko , this blackmail came to naught, in fact, but this whole generation in ukrainian politics also, uh, obviously needs a certain kind of reboot , because uh, well, probably 70 percent of ukrainians politicians were still formed in these difficult conditions, do you think that after we finish the final battle with the russian federation, which has already been going on there for not even 8 years, but 300 years or 400, should something happen a real illustration of the politicians and businessmen who were affiliated with the russian federation, because what we see now in the psg and the sharia party is only the tip of the iceberg that is in ukrainian politics, which was e-effelated from the russian
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federation, we definitely need a condemnation of the concept of development, as well as because now we are talking about 6% - it is rather well, i would say an emotional card that is not written anywhere, what it is, and that is why if it is not written down, if there is no reflection of the placement, what exactly is it about because it is difficult to condemn, even at the legislative level, as the ban on national socialism was after the defeat of germany from 105 years ago, we definitely need such internal repression and er-e separation of relations with pro-russian forces, who in one way or another say that it is not so unambiguous, this is our historical memory and so on, that is, these are all the russian narratives that, in the end, spill over into rockets that fall on our cities after a few years. we constantly talk about whether there should be peace talks between ukraine and russia, this is constantly
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moscow repeats that we are always ready, but we have conditions. kyiv does not listen to us. president zelensky says that we are ready to talk, but on our terms. president of turkey erdogan says that i am ready to become a mediator between ukraine and russia, even provide a platform for such negotiations , whether in antalya or in istanbul or tovankar, everyone talks about peace, that peace is needed, that some kind of peace process is needed. do you believe that a peace agreement can be concluded between ukraine and russia on terms under which ukraine will not suffer territorially and will not to lose by signing by writing a signature under the agreement with the russian federation for the time being no while the putin regime and his entourage exist, i am afraid that they will not agree to such an agreement that was in our national
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interests, unless they will be completely defeated at the front, but even then, you understand the problem is that the russian federation is a nuclear state. even if we abstract from such a comparison of the armies of russia and ukraine and our potential capabilities, we will find ourselves in the situation again in 1945 when writing the language in moscow as we entered berlin is simply impossible because they have nuclear weapons and we will not be able to achieve this in a military sense. of course, what is the question? and i, what is the other way? it is really diplomatic to sign something, but at the moment the situation is such that they cannot sign anything at all, it is not possible. that the russians are definitely the winners right now and they are really moving away from themselves, that is, they have actually captured the kherson region and to sign something for them in such a situation is, of course, actually giving up their territory because, first of all
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they will ask whether or how they will formulate it for themselves to give the donetsk region to the so-called dnr to recognize independence, that is, independence, but in fact it is annexation, that is, what we call annexation. and the russian federation can be called the principle of salami , they are slowly cutting off ukrainian territories, that is, they want to give the status of russian territories to donetsk region, luhansk region, kherson region and it is obvious that the south of ukraine is under threat - it is mykolaiv and odesa and, accordingly, this corridor that has been talked about since 2014, do they want to break through a corridor through mariupol to odesa to mykolaiv and all the way to the
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unrecognized transnistrian moldavian republic? obviously they want to implement this scenario within four months we are watching how the west is. it helps ukraine, of course, but for the majority of western viewers and people who live in the west, our war is some kind of tv series on netflix, they watch everyone day, every day they watch a certain series, today was one, yesterday was in severodonetsk , today, er, lysychansk, tomorrow will be sloviansk, well , relatively speaking, then there will be odesa or not, or mykolaiv. what do you think should happen to the awareness of er, the same europeans for so that they feel this war the way we feel, so that they understand that this is not a tv series and that their lives also depend on what is still happening in ukraine, obviously you now communicate a lot
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with europeans, you travel abroad, your books go abroad, what do europeans say about this war and since they identify what is happening in ukraine with what is happening in general on the european continent, in fact, you don't have to go far for answers, because the same thing with er frankly happened to many ukrainians on february 24 because when i even heard now that everything changed for me after february 24, i basically start speaking ukrainian there or some other such markers so that they buy themselves as ukrainians, well , this happened only after the purchases when kyiv fell realistic rockets and projectiles and that is why, unfortunately , if our even a part of our society for eight years perceived the war purely as what is on tv, then what can be said about those who live in vienna or paris, of course for them even the worst scenario
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that is happening in the east of our country or in the south or in any other region, this is only a television picture, and until russia touches the country, it will not touch the country, for example, there is a battle or, well, these are the first ones that are, so to speak, under threat , faltika and poland, i am afraid that this europeans fundamentally have nothing in their minds because they won't change. i apologize because they don't feel a physical threat sitting in cafes or restaurants in europe and just watching the day there. no, i'm from ukraine, you understand. i have my own experience of communicating with foreign journalists there through exit books abroad, very often people ask me about what is happening in ukraine, and when it comes to the conversation there, they say, well, you wrote a book about zelensky, can you tell us something there? an anecdote about zelenskyi and me. to be honest, this
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drives me into such a stupor, i say, listen, people are dying in our country, there is a war going on in our country, cities are being destroyed, you are asking me about an anecdote about zelenskyi, that is, i am to the extent that people who even work with information, to the extent that they are not fully aware of what is happening in ukraine. however, i also wanted to ask you about our neighbors because it is very important about belarus. for the last three or four weeks, we have been following the story according to the statements of the self-proclaimed president to alexander lukashenko's belarus, it is obvious that you should also follow what lukashenko says, and there is an absolutely logical question: in this situation, how does ukraine in general treat not only lukashenko, but also the republic of belarus, because it is clear
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that, as lukashenko himself admitted, since february 24, 2022, they support this so-called special e-e military operation july 1 ukraine introduced visas for russians do we need to somehow restrict the movement of belarusians and in general how should we treat them because their leader even if he is self-proclaimed, he actually participates in the war against ukraine, participates in the so -called special and military operations, which russia is not even a full-scale invasion that gives its territory to the russian troops , this is undoubtedly a very powerful participation in terms of the possibility of, for example, ambushing and threatening who directly belarusians then here i see that he turned out to be a more let's say this experienced politician than uh legs because such things are never done without
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analyzing not only the moods of the local population the country you are going from, and this was the main mistake of the russians, and this analysis was completely wrong , and now we will see it in belarus lukashenko, but also the population of the country that attacks the russians . there were no problems. that the russians still support, the majority of russians support what is happening in our country, what are their troops doing, but in belarus, the opposite situation has begun, that is, belarusians er-er general functions to the point that their er-er and military and some relatives died, it is not clear why on the territory of ukraine, therefore, in this sense lukashenko, he is really maneuvering between the desire to be like the whole so these troops to attract belarusian units just now is even better than yesterday and what he says officially that i cannot do
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it because i need from 15 belarus because there is a threat from poland or lithuania and well, in this sense, we really have to deal with the belarusians. in the same way as until now , restrictions on the movement of our state should also be applied to them, looking at the fact that there is also a very powerful civil sector that is directed against lukashenka, but for the most part, they still try to come to europe in such a way that they want to come to lithuania, and i don't think that they are relying on ukraine in this situation, which is now, well , we constantly hear from lukashenka that they are now alone with russia a great power and we know that on december 31, 2022, it will be 100 years since the founding of the soviet union, and obviously putin is trying some way to recreate this mini soviet union, because for him, as he once
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admitted in an interview, it was a defeat in life when the soviet union has fallen apart. well, he is trying to heal this trauma somehow . how do you behave? how do you look at this union, which now surrounds us from all sides with the new union of belarus and russia ? leaders of belarus and russia, it is quite difficult and it is clear that this whole story, which is now unfolding before our eyes, the war, it still encourages us ukrainians to treat our neighbors in a different way, because i think that even in donetsk, they never thought that this was all will end war and the destruction of ukraine and in kyiv. i think
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that people did not believe in it either, but the new reality dictates to us some new plans, how are we supposed to survive in this difficult situation when we have 1,000 km of border with belarus in common and in 2010, if i am not mistaken with the russian federation, well , in fact, only our western border is so safe, everything else is dangerous for us, how to behave in ukraine in this situation in order to protect ourselves and our future generations from those who encroach even on our independence encroaches on the fact that we do not exist in this world, in fact, with regard to the soviet project 2, i do not yet see, apart from belarus, other uh countries of the former let's say former countries of the soviet
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union that would voluntarily want to join this union or become like ours belarusians, when de jure you are an independent state. and now a part of russia or some russian region, that is, even kazakhstan in this sense pleasantly impressed me, and i think that it was not only me when the russians again, apparently, remembered that there is something completely pro-russian an environment appeared, but it turned out that it was not. well, for now, let ’s recreate the soviet union within the limits that it existed before 1991 without war, again, in other countries except belarus, i simply don’t even see how it can be. we have to sell russian blood. well simply on a huge piece of the front in relation to belarus and russia and the borders. so it is already years ahead, if not decades, i did not understand, of course, how this will happen in the future , that is, the soviet union did not think much that it would just
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take it like that and it would disintegrate permanently there the reason was in 1985 already in 1970-1986. it must have been difficult to imagine, but it happened. it is possible that something so drastic will happen to russia, but until it happened and as long as we have such a situation, of course we have to live and keep part of the troops on the borders with belarus. that the threat definitely still exists, and at least the russian federation is counting on this one, that even lukashenko's army will not be here, physically, all the same , we should worry about it and withdraw part of our reserves to the northern border, or will it disappear in general, there is some kind of threat from russia in the event that putin leaves power. what do you think, the glory, that is, can this imperial expansion of russia end after the change of power in the russian federation, but it may
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not necessarily be so, on the other hand, putin's clarification is quite will be much more radical than him, and he still has a lot of political experience and a school of the kgb. and there are just fanatics and so-called extremists who like to use a static nuclear bomb in kyiv and on that everything is finished therefore, it is not clear what is worse, in fact, i am afraid that you know everything, it may be that if we again draw an analogy with the soviet union, it may be such a calm lenin, after which stalin will come, then brezhnev and so on until the end of the media, that is, putin is not yet stalin it's hard, you know, it's hard to say because it's even such a humorous question . when we posed it at the beginning of march, or
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the environment, it seems that everything is very bad, but maybe in a month it will be so bad that it will not even be the environment around kyiv it may seem like well, at least i’m training with weapons, it wasn’t and now it’s time to strike so here it is before the nuclear period, it ’s hard to say, it’s stalin we are talking about this war that they are waging and about moscow's absentee dialogues with the leaders of nato or western countries, well, the impression is that they, well, they simply do not have this instinct for self- preservation, but then i ask myself a logical question if they do not have this instinct self-preservation, why do they need these billions that they stole from the russian people, that is, if you steal so much money, you threaten the world. well, the question is, what do you want from this world? if you
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want to turn this world into nuclear ash, political statements are one thing, but logic the kremlin still thinks that she is different and she really lives on a diplomat, children, they lovingly restored ties with the west, both diplomatic and financial, and what they are saying is that today and tomorrow we will hit london until it is some kind of rocket there it is rather a means of pressure that we have such an opportunity if we have to do it, but we are not going to do it. well, i don't think that there is an option for north korea, when there is a complete loss of contact with reality and, by the way, uh, departure of the minsk army from the south of our territories, this is also a marker of the fact that they began to calculate something and think rationally about what is happening, and not just collect everything from which they can be collected and storm the citadel, that is, they started some
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financial and political calculations there. i think that this same the logic of chemical processes in the crimea thank you stanislav stanislav vasiev, journalist, blogger, member of the ukrainian-ukrainian center and a person who creates a fund that deals with the identification and search of e-e war criminals in russian thank you for participating in the program, we will wait for your project on the web e-e on the web -sites well, that was the program, the verdict was conducted by serhiy rudenko, i say goodbye to you until monday, i wish you all good health, take care of yourself and your loved ones. goodbye, watch espresso news and programs on the air on our channel euroespresso for ukrainian refugees in europe joint broadcast with the atp channel radio svoboda
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licenses, contracts, government decisions and here i am, finally , for the first time in ukraine, modern foreign military equipment for the armed forces, volunteers and benefactors are buying 11 armored vehicles for landing 11 combat vehicles for the offensive of real superheroes 50 million uah have already been collected, 45 more are needed community affairs is collecting 45 million join us we continue to search for 11-year-old danilo the carriage driver who disappeared in the temporarily occupied border area of ​​luhansk oblast i already told about the story of the disappearance of this boy, and
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at first almost nothing was known about his fate. and now we have learned very important details that inspire action on the fact that everything okay, the main thing is that he is alive. at first, we only knew what happened to zhivoruzhny, together with his father and grandmother , and the connection with them was cut off. by god, it really was a miracle that they were not found, that they were alive. let them be in russia , even if it is possible to collect them from there. our first program about searching for data was seen by his third cousin, who lives in kyiv, and it so happened that he simply did not know about the disappearance of his nephew, the man immediately decided to join the search and did everything possible to find out at least something about the fate of the data. we talked to him on the phone and this is what he said, then i went out to another woman who said that she was
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told by a third person who saw it, then i left to the woman's relatives in the mykolaiv region. well, there the villages were arranged and the man managed to do it . it would seem impossible as a result of painstaking searches. he did find a woman who reported that on june 21, a person saw danya, his father and grandmother who lives in the same house, she said that they are alive, they are hiding in shelters, she says that they are alive with them in this is good. they still live in a five-story house, they survived, they hide in a shelter at night and go up to the apartment during the day, denmark's uncle wants to believe that this information is true, one says that he will not stop until he sees a photo of his relatives their searches so far, this information has
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not been fully confirmed, that is, when i saw that they were definitely found, a combination of photos and videos, that they are still alive, i would simply order that 100%. we still have to check, we were also given quite encouraging information by grandma data, who lives in the united states and how she can try to help from there. in search of her grandson, she says that one day data's father appeared on the internet and she tried to call him, the son-in-law's phone turned on in telegram and i began to gain ego he was busy all the time busy busy but i don't know how many times i dialed 20-30 times i don't remember anymore and then i couldn't get in touch well there's no connection i'm getting a message that there's no connection and i'm asking everything every day no call, no connection, this situation in the occupied territories
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, unfortunately, is a common occurrence. russians deliberately block communication and call people who remained in the occupation. it is almost impossible, however, grandmother and uncle do not lose hope in the end to get the boy out of occupied rubizhny, and above all, they they want to make 100% sure that danya is a living resource of everyone who saw heard something knows that they saw my grandson danechku, please let me know about it in the editorial office completely that they lived, it is even difficult to imagine what the boy's relatives are going through now, who on the one hand received encouraging information, but on the other hand, they probably still have no way to make sure that everything is okay with this person, so
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i am asking you very much and i am appealing first of all to the residents occupied rubizhny, if you happen to see this program and have at least some information about danilo karetnyk, please call our hotline at 116,000. calls to the child tracing service are free and you can call from any mobile operator. if you are in the occupied territory in you have communication problems and you can't get through, try writing to telegram, we have a special chatbot for the child search service, you can write there seven days a week and at any time, even the smallest information from you can become important and even decisive in the case of the coachman's data
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