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you and the money that we will receive through these sales will be transferred to ukraine, because there is such a legal or , er, legal problem for us, so we will see if this way can really give us the money that we need for the recovery and reconstruction of our economy. thank you volodymyr dubovyk, director of the center for international studies, let me tell you a little bit about the next speaker. i remind you that mykola veresen will soon be arranged. you still have a few minutes for that, literally 10 minutes to ask your questions, be active questions, impressions, comments, we read everything and you often ask on youtube, i see in the chat, does anyone read this chat, i read it, i see everything you write there, about me and mr. september, something will be announced on the air, so be careful and ask questions there too or on our official
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facebook page, espresso.tv, so in 10 minutes we will start the interactive session, and then igor eisenberg, professor of the university of jura, will be listening to us. congratulations to you. congratulations to you. glory to ukraine. we are just a bridge from the odessa expert to the new york expert let's throw in the same question that i just didn't ask an odessan, now i'll ask an american, and this is even theoretically possible, but there is a lot of talk about the fact that 300 billion or so are arrested in russia, accumulate them and transfer them to ukraine for reconstruction, and from the outside it looks quite logical the aggressor, the aggressor has money, there is the victim, which is ukraine, and she receives this money from the aggressor, on the
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other hand, private property, it has not been canceled anywhere, and it is the property of the russian federation, and so frivolously as they often say in ukraine, well, it should take away and hand over i think that there are many legal prerequisites not to hand over so that this does not happen because russia will go to court and something tells me that there is at least a fifty-fifty chance of winning this court, but not 100% in favor of ukraine. for you to tell mr. igor, i think you know, here we need to distinguish between the fortunes of, say, russian oligarchs who have been arrested and the fortunes of russia as a state, because, let's say, from the point of view of american legislation , these are different things, because yes, you are absolutely right, private property is actually untouchable because in order for the state to be able to confiscate the private property of
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some russian oligarch, it must do it through the court, and it cannot combine or , let's say, its oligarch mix and we take his property and transfer this property to ukraine er, this is according to american legislation - it is impossible, because simply according to the constitution , private property is untouched. and if the state wants to touch it, it must go to court, but there is another thing, because there are assets that belong to russia federation as a state and this is no longer private property because it is state property and for example, a professor at harvard university, a professor of constitutional law, lauren stripe, he published an article in the new york times about a month and a half ago, where he actually proposed a mechanism as possible in principle, adopt a law stating that the state property of russia can be
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the owner of confiscated state property and state property that is under arrest, let's say in the united states. that is, mike, monetary assets and the like or let's say just real estate that can be sold and precisely to use this money for the reconstruction of ukraine so that this money goes to the benefit of ukraine, that is, he believes that it is possible that the congress can adopt a law that would significantly simplify this procedure, that is, that the state should not have to to prove in court that it can do this, and for russia to be recognized in law as an aggressor who has caused significant material damage to ukraine, and these assets must be used because of this in order for ukraine to receive compensation, well, i look at a lawyer in the same way as
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you do. that is, i am referring to a well-known lawyer, which means that it may be necessary for congress to pass a law accordingly. i think that the situation in the european union is roughly similar, that is, there is a difference between private wealth and state wealth, that is, private property. yes it is protected there without a court, it is impossible to do anything. but state property is another thing, and there must be some other mechanism that can allow this money to be taken from russia and given to ukraine in canada already made the appropriate law, as far as i remember, in order to do this, and great britain also promises, but the european union will see what changes will be taken into account in this regard. and of course, it will be good for us if they give us these funds, because they are by right, let's say it is possible not ours, but in fairness ours, i would like to discuss with
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you yuriy the topic of raising the resignation of boris johnson and the prime minister of great britain. please tell me what you think. are now being heard, if great britain will deal directly with its internal parapets, will there be time for foreign policy and support for ukraine? i do not think that this will have any effect on the support of ukraine. is not related to foreign policy factors, it is not related to people in any way, it is related to the fact that with johnson well, he has lost confidence within the fact that even within the country within his party there is also a parliamentary faction for it is impossible to manage the country under such conditions, but
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his party is absolutely determined to support ukraine, that is, if there is a bogdan prime minister of great britain, it would be good, again, a representative of the conservative party , who did not like johnson's policy of supporting ukraine, yes by the way , the former leader of the hummingbird party is also a rather marginal and very left-wing politician who is no longer a leader. he was probably the only person who was so well-liked by everyone. putin is a sympathizer of russia, that is, great britain simply does not have any politicians who support ukraine, so i think that this will in no way mean that great britain supports ukraine.
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in november, the american midterm elections are what i would like to say about. i understand that there is bipartisan support for ukraine, everything is fine, but if economic troubles begin for americans, it may somehow affect the situation around ukraine. i have mind you, if gasoline prices will rise, inflation will rise, there will be some kind of increase in the price of something there, well, gasoline , we know what a gallon already costs there, how much it can tell the average american to listen to, let's find those politicians who are in favor of friendship with putin and vote for them and then pass this ukraine, this russia, and oil prices will fall, inflation will be normal and we will live as we lived until february
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24th . who think well, just like you say, with the exception of one factor, they do not think about ukraine at all, i.e. zero. they are interested in their own lives, only naturally, people are interested in how they live today, how much money do they spend to buy something, well, look i am not further . yesterday i was in a supermarket near our produce. we live in the suburbs of new york and look at our place, for example, a kilogram and there. well, should i have any fruits ? plus minus plus minus a dollar that is, i would say that there were no such prices, well, at least during the time that i have been in america for quite a few years. i have not seen such prices, that
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is, inflation is high. of course, they are concerned about this, but they, the vast majority of people, do not understand it in any way they associate it with the war, with the fact that the biden administration supports ukraine, and once again the fact that there is a war, and because of this there is inflation there, and gasoline is expensive, it is a little cheaper, by the way, because it is global there, uh, he issued a decree that the daily i don't remember how many millions there barrels of oil from the strategic reserve just goes on the market, look, people can vote, they can vote for biden's opponents in the congressional elections right away, the majoritarian system, that is, they vote for themselves, not only for the party, they vote for certain candidates , that is, they can vote for some very
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smart supporters of trump. all such the biggest trumpists, they speak of american isolationism, that is, they are for the fact that in america in general she came, er, she closed herself all in herself, occupied herself here in general, so that she was not there before what's going on eh? that is, it can be absolutely, it can be because people are wondering what if i spend too much on my daily life who is to blame the government because it has a bad policy, what is wrong with this policy, people don't think about it i will vote for the position, it will be better , ah, that is, people can think like that, but i don't think that i don't think that as long as the member's administration is in power, it will change its policy towards ukraine in some way, and it supported ukraine, supported it, then it will
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to support uh absolutely absolutely very thank you very much we still have a part of the eisenberg program ahead of us professor of the university of jury was in touch with us thank you very much for explaining to us that we should not expect any drastic changes even after the mid-term elections in the united states to the states, thank you, mr. igor, and we have the next part of the program, my personal favorite, probably because our viewers often write interesting questions to us, or at least the urks don’t fly eh with funny comments of all the bots of the russians, anyone i'm ready on youtube. so, let's start with the questions you asked on our official facebook page. first, i'll read them from there. ah, today we
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had mr. vilkul on the air, and i see that some viewers have questions about this. what is your attitude to the wolf or it is necessary not to allow former rigs to power well, at least for 5 years to observe, i have no trust in them and why did he communicate in the language of the aggressor and you did not make a remark well, next time when i have the idea to make a remark, just let him leave his phone i will always call and ask if i am doing the right thing or if i am wrong, who likes me , who does not like me, and what about mr. wolf, to put it mildly, i have not always had a friendly relationship with him and he knows it, i know it, but you know i can tell you very simple things about the whole situation, i would n't sit on the couch after all. i would try to go to kryvyi rih and talk to people in kryvyi rih, how
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they like it, don't like what the head of the military administration does during the war, here he is . says that no no no two where two lines of defense a dozens of lines of defense not only within the city of kryvyi rih but also outside the city of kryvyi rih and if a person fulfills his duties in the way he does, then i just clap my hands and say well done if tomorrow this person surrenders some kind of position well, let's say tomorrow talk about what will happen tomorrow, but very often i hear criticism of many people, and what's more, i can say that i was not delighted with zelensky's victory in the elections, but i absolutely believe that he is absolutely in the right place er during war and it is hard for me to find another politician in ukraine who would better cope with this situation
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, just frankly, that's why people change people , people are capable of surprising and by the way, anzhelika and i talked about this before the program and she also said that it was so hard for me to imagine there three years ago, for vilkul to get on our air, so our viewers simply know that for 8 years we did not give a word to the representatives of pro-russian forces in ukraine, but first of all, mr. vilkul changed his position, whether sincere or not, time will tell, in fact, we will watch what you wrote but he now holds an official position and the head of the military administration of kryvyi rih. and that is why we give him his word and hope for his sincerity in a pro-ukrainian patriotic position . language i will now ask constantly i now only
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need a phone russian-speaking people have not yet completely switched to ukrainian, but in the process of ukraine it is written that this is not mandatory, it is not written there that no one has anywhere to speak at all in a language other than ukrainian, there is no such thing, moreover, when we campaigned and everyone campaigned, then it was said that this does not mean that in private life a person does not have the right to speak in the language he wants in private yes, but we are now on the air in private we don't have state television at all, i don't know. in ukraine, there is state television, this is public, this is public, this is not quite state. okay, from funding in public, if we take funding, then it is definitely public , it is 100% state, then yes, let's move further, mr. mykola, i am interested in your opinion on such a
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question, whether the existing support programs for ukrainians in great britain will not cease to operate in connection with the resignation of boris johnson, that is what i asked the speaker. no matter who does not like mr. jones in the public opinion of the conservative party and many british people, he is a liar regarding ukraine, he did not lie, but regarding his behavior inside britain, he is a liar and when the ministers who in number of 50s resigned as a sign of protest against johnson, they all none of them said any international domestic all reprimands he said that he did not know this but here is the evidence that he knew
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he said that he was not aware of this but here is the evidence that in the course he said that he did not have uh with wine and snacks on the old words of 10 meetings and what during this pandemic and here in the footage and photos and people spoke and said we will lose the popularity of the conservative party in the next election if we leave this person at to the government, he will resign, we will all resign, the british will not vote for us, we can't let him go, and that's why either he or the party and it happened. i don't know how it is according to the laws, although i once studied british laws, but i don't know, for example, if there is no we see that the minister of defense, who was considered to be the number one
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candidate, he refused. i do not rule out that this cunning johnson will stir up something and in october they will re-elect him. yes, it's not me, i just don't know if i'm in the procedure, maybe someone from english people look at me like i'm not an idiot, but i'm different right away, i just don't know, but it's simple, and we're waiting for him prime minister until october in october, there should be re-elections within the conservative party, and there should be a congress, and there the fate of the new prime minister will be decided. i don't know , since you are there, everything is a precedent, has there been such a thing in the history of britain that a person left the pond and then renewed it, yes, i just don't know, but it will not affect ukraine in any way, i do not rule out that there will be more, i cannot rule out that they miss the discussion johnson, he is already a super bright person, he is super
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, in general, so unusual, not a premier, not arrogant, well , in short, he has many human moments, very attractive, but he is a player of ukraine. it is not for love of britain. he needs ukraine to show the greatness of britain and he hasn't reconciled with braxet, that he can't sincerely love ukraine , one thing doesn't interfere with the other, ukrainian women have already fallen in love with him there, you know, it's all a joke on the networks well, they've been talking about that for a long time, even if it's not your way, they meet alone macron, wait for your johnson, that’s great. well, he’s very bad at teasing the beautiful putin about his nakedness. i really liked it, and
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poor putin couldn’t stand it. he started to answer and shout something . we’ll just talk. i, for example, am in favor of him arriving as the manager of all in the event that 750 billion will be given. let him control. i would say so. he controls so. well, let's dilute our air a little with comments from orcs. well, i can't do that. these are already fighting, everything they write must be voiced because it is just so funny, now i lost a second, i congratulate everyone on the liberation of the lpr and lysychansk from fascist defeats with a swastika and a yellow-blue rag glory is spread all over the donbass, the
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disgrace of the elite azov surrendered to me as a prisoner here, you know the swastika, uh, why do people who write z everywhere teach children in kindergarten with the letter z, i don’t know what kind of tattoos they make on their bodies z, they tell us about some kind of swastika and what kind of swastika do we have? have you seen the swastika at all? well, what it looks like is not important. well, i showed it to me yesterday, my daughter sent it. and for august 31, probably in the 40th year, i think maybe it was 41 or from the year of the rokvala. it’s just the same as what i read now. this is a person who lived in berlin. this is berlinsky . the diary says that he got the flu, the cleaning lady came i ask well, what are the british
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going to bomb and that's what he says well, unfortunately it will be and i say and why the hell are they well, they're barbarians and maybe it's because we're bombing britain he says no, we're only in the military unit, we shoot not this one we are on we don't throw bombs at civilians, it's the british, our german civilians, and in general, why don't the british respond to hitler's wonderful plan to stop the war, hitler stops the war, that is, it's not ours, it's not the russians, it's always crazy people , there are crazy peoples, many peoples have been crazy and then when they go crazy like any other person they are as we hear it there is nothing surprising here they just cover their eyes
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and say это всё фасисты where are the fascists well i guess yes yes i don't know yesterday i haven't been yet well that's just yesterday was already today. well, what's next, what else? bots are beautiful, let's now go to the question of our viewers. still, between these questions, there will be a little seriousness, mr. september, here with a claim, adults, what are you saying? yermak tatarov clearly made an analogy blocking the appointment of the prosecutor of the specialized anti -corruption prosecutor's office. because it's not nice, finally i was exposed i'm a bad
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journalist who left i'm a bad journalist first of all why should we believe the whole woman, it's a woman and why her ? we don't believe it. it's so cool, it's so cool to arrange, i guess i don't like it yarmak i'm somehow neutral to me, what is this congressman, what is yermak give me evidence, there is evidence that he appointed tatarov gugillashvili tatars, the head of the burba intelligence directorate told about yarmak, how he drained wagnergate, how can you wage
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war with traitors, there are many questions about yarmakatniks, let 's start from the beginning, since there are all these traitors around zelenskyi, zelenskyi 's traitor will probably come out then, and if he appointed an industrious and industrious a traitor in short ukraine is ruled by traitors everyone writes to me from the same person everyone who doesn't like one people have a traitor and for sure they would clap their hands if i said yes yes they are so bad, but other people have a more sober opinion, let's say why do you believe her, do you believe me, then i changed my mind and said, and i now believe everything, then they would have said that means if he says so, he is a traitor, so you live as a bad journalist. by the way,
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what's going on here you're right, he wants them to like you, you don't like him, you want another word, you don't like him, well, the president couldn't, for sure, our president is not a traitor, well, at least for today, he is not a traitor to ukraine, and maybe he doesn't know something about the fair, but if you think so, i definitely don't know well, you understand. who has the president of ukraine with the least information of all the citizens of ukraine, any citizen of ukraine among others who write to us they know much more about intelligence, counterintelligence of the sbu, friends abroad, presidents of the cia, the fbi, and facebook, that's all in he is there. no, everyone has it, he doesn’t have it, that’s why it is absolutely necessary to immediately expel everyone who was listed by this lady from the united
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states congress, let’s leave the steering wheel alone. no, well, they all won’t decide that the president is my business. listen to this, and if yarmak turns out to be a traitor, well , suddenly, then the president will be responsible for the fact that he worked in his office right away, so show us that we would feel it, because there is a war, the war escalates everything. you cannot have a traitor during the war, and then why do we we won't lose, we didn't lose, because here near lviv, the russian army would be standing, there is nothing like that, so we have two minutes left, and we have another interesting question, mykola, i know you studied at the history faculty, if i'm not mistaken, they taught history. what do you think today it is necessary to change the approach to the teaching of the history of ukraine and world history, because history in school is still taught in the soviet paradigm of
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pluralism. this is what needs to be changed. it is very difficult . learning in a certain way and then teaching all your life, you don't need to stress, but history is variable one historian interprets this way the second interprets this way the third bar interpreters the fourth yes interpreter and you meant pluralism to expand freedom or narrow the teacher he should study the first and second and third and fourth and teach in such a way as to say that there is a version that there was a great october socialist revolution , he told this version and there is a version that it was an anti-ukrainian war of aggression brom you and there is a
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version that it was the whites yes, there is a red and this is also an internalist but russian imperialism brum v and tell people that it can be like this, it can be like this, it can be like this, it is your choice to find what you think is right, then the child has and a student and a schoolboy have the opportunity to choose potatoes, this is the most important thing that needs to be done, as a result, secondary and higher education should also cultivate critical thinking, because when they tell me that soviet education was wonderful, i say where are the nobel laureates, if excellent education, why is yale university full of them and even in moskovskiy alone, we thank mykola september for this

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