well, there are five minimum salaries. well, let's have a discussion. there will be six minimum salaries. this is the minimum salary and the maximum salary that public sector workers, officials, judges, and prosecutors can receive. well, the war should be for everyone, and we have it so that the main outcasts are the people who suffer from lack of money, these are pensioners , private entrepreneurs. well, it’s just signed, about a third of the business is not working and at a loss. and here we need to put things in order. you can tolerate it for a few months, you can tolerate it, and well,

our only option is to end poverty with inflation and devaluation, it is a quick win in the war, er, i have been here for a long time with my plan to defeat rasha in 100 days , so, er, this is my assessment of salary cuts direct me a comment about the actual new deputy minister of social policy for european integration, 25-year-old anna sergiyeva, whose official salary, according to ukrainian media, is uah 68,643 per month, that is, 2.5 times more than the president. twice more because official salaries are, you know, so that people don't get angry. and there are

also a lot of extra payments to salaries and it turns out to be more than 100,000. well, in my opinion, it's unethical, wrong, immoral, during the war, to have such a differentiation, someone will get 6,000. well, you and a half, someone two- three thousand during the war is an announcement of nonsense well, we need to pay attention to this and then we will have the opportunity to slow down inflation and devaluation because the left part of the emission is for the financing of the huge huge public sector and officials, not only we are talking about the army now they don't say well, yes, thank you mr. oleksandr, but i would still like to walk around lugano

, so let's ask. and with us, it seems to me. tell me, please, does oleksandr savchenko stay in touch with us, yes, yes, yes, yes, thank you mr. oleksandr, i would still like for us to talk about your assessment of this plan for the recovery of the country presented by the ukrainian government on the fourth of july in lugano, switzerland . actually, a few days have passed since the conference, we can now look at it with a cool head in a separate article that analyzes the experts on this marshal's plan for ukraine presented by the ukrainian authorities, the time for this has actually already come, or after all , before the end of hostilities. and let's be honest , we can usually talk about 100 days, but it can be much, much longer, we are entering a long military conflict what did i say, mr. met can continue for years, it is necessary to look realistically at the fact that we live in a time

that will not end so quickly i would like to be a patriot of ukraine and we must get used to it yes before this period, before the period of the long protracted war of a syrian nature, but what to do with the restoration of ukraine, wait until this war ends there, maybe on the 23rd, maybe on the 24th, or maybe on the 32nd, and when to restore the country then and i will tell you first of all we must have a plan for victory. we must not , you know, depend on the circumstances. we must shape the circumstances ourselves. in other words, we must first of all demand from our western partners that they make demands there, much more weapons, the opportunity to respond to the peanuts, wherever they are , economic sanctions must be much more it's tougher now, a paradoxical situation. yesterday , putin talked to his ministers and rudely

said, well, that means oil revenues have increased by 2%. on gas, they fell by two percent , but in general, compared to last year, the income of currencies is increasing, well, the stations are not working, or rather, they will work, but as you say, in a year, in two years, it does not suit us. - for three months, their gdp should collapse, and this will be a huge blow to the ability of the rashists strike at us just as we need more weapons, more sanctions, uh, and many more things need to be done. and now, in relation to, that is, i am in favor of having our own plan for victory, you understand. we can

not say well, the war can end because of sin 25 we must try to impose our plan and grid on the whole world so that we, because i am not sure in three years, if the intensity of the shelling of ukrainian villages will be the same as always, there will be something to update and therefore draw our line and not stick to it, but you are right to prepare er and to the central bank plan. when will it last longer? yes , er, regarding the marshall plan, yes, it is obvious that it is premature, premature. i would now concentrate my attention primarily on the mechanisms of er, removing these frozen assets of the er, er, central

bank and some oligarchs in favor of ukraine eh and eh, what is the sin to hide? the united states already has such mechanisms, they have precedents, they did it in the early days after the cancer of afghanistan, they seized the funds of eh previous governments of these countries or enemy forces and gave them to those to whom need well, i'm on for example, i would propose such a plan, you know. it’s much better than now to discuss the marshall plan, a plan that would form putin’s kremlin’s russian rashists .

nothing changes in 500 years, forms are modified, that’s their reflex, like a dog’s, i want to eat, i want to mate, but we can, um, impose conditional reflexes on them. to declare the united states and the european union worth 1 billion dollars, i think putin should stop bombing ukrainian cities and continue the war, he thought a day minus a billion and we need a ukrainian billion in the budget. bombs - 100 million killed ukrainians - 100 million well, in this way, i am sure that in a few weeks we will form the conditional reflexes

of putin and the russians in general , that is, we will bring them to refinance their own defeat and our victory, and why does it matter? why not discuss such a mechanism in lugano and set such a task before our partners here? you are right , no one will invest in ukraine until , uh, there is a total victory for ukraine and all risks are closed. for business, business is already what it is called and the plan. why would business go to ukraine to earn profits? and in order to earn profits, we need to end the war, ensure security, prove, prove to all investors that we have defeated corruption, that fair courts will work. it's also not easy, we know with you, until nothing

works out, and then we need to create such an environment for business where small taxes for 10 years where uh, deregulation is real and not effective uh, where a lot has been done me , the main elements of the new plan, let's call it the marshal plan, i'm not against it, but in general, as an informational reason to unite the leaders of the western world of financiers, well, it's not bad, i don't see that such an event happened, it's just that so far quite naive well, for example, i tell you yes, uh, 750, uh, uh, billions a year, 75 billion is money that should go to development, that is, to

investments, to reconstruction, investment costs, and basically, that’s how everyone wants a percentage of growth, and i’m just telling you that if 75 billion will just come into the economy of ukraine, and now it has fallen to 100 billion, it was 200 billion last year, the gdp will be 100 billion, so if 75 billion goes in, the gnp will grow not by seven and a half percent, and not even by 17, but by 27.30%. well, here elementary arithmetic is people making a plan that is completely far from economic practice and science and statistics, and that's why it looks very naive to us professionals, but anyway, the information is useful, we draw attention to us,

and we must not disappear from the central pages of the press, and it is better that we appear positive there they provided me with negative ones that happen here from time to time, well, thank you, the vampire of this plan, oleksandr savchenko, rector of the international institute of business and deputy minister of finance of ukraine, was in touch with us in 2009-10, well, there are many questions about this plan, vitaliy and not only to the plan itself and its articles, actually, there is also the question of whether, in principle, ukraine will receive this money if it does not timely and conscientiously do its homework and reform, clean up the government, demonstrate european values ​​and readiness to implement the most necessary changes in our country , about this we will talk about everything immediately after a short

pause, we will interrupt for a number of important informational messages from espresso, then we will come back and talk about this and other important topics, such as the threat from belarus, what to expect from lukashenka we can see that while we are talking here in the studio all the time in our runner in the running tape there is news that in belarus the movement of columns of the russian occupation army towards belarus has been noticed by some kamaz of the armed forces of the aggressor country with signs in this we will talk about other others important topics, in particular, about international topics, which maybe we will come back in a moment, so wait, the petition demanding to return espresso channel five and live to the digital air has received more than 25,000 votes on the website of the cabinet of ministers, ukrainians stood up to defend freedom of speech, now it's their turn

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the tuner to new parameters, because the old parameters will soon stop broadcasting espresso, the ukrainian view. about all aspects of the conference on the restoration of ukraine, which took place in lugano, namely about the conditions under which these funds and vitaly are allocated to us for a start. let's try

to find out whether the marshal's plan for ukraine rewards the ukrainian people with wealth for resisting the aggressor. is this a painful path of transformation that requires no less courage than fighting back and winning the war with russia first? it must be clearly said that any real economic transformations will begin only after the actual end of the war at least on their hot easter we can of course say that the restoration of the country is already happening today and the president is talking about this, it is very important that we preserve our infrastructure that we are trying to restore some objects, but you have to be realistic, but no investor will finance the created workplaces of enterprises in factories in a situation where a ballistic missile can negate all the results of his investment in any element. the country should see an end to hostilities, by the way, russia

knows this very well, vladimir putin is also aware of this, so the russian president will do everything possible to prolong this conflict, it is actually a struggle of resources, whoever will run out of resources first will lose this war, so that is why it is really important that our western allies support us as much as it will be necessary. and at this time, that sanctions against russia are in effect, and another very important point that we talked about with valery, such countries how china will do everything possible so that these sanctions do not hit the russian economy painfully that russia had the opportunity to resist the west because for them it is also a matter of political survival and thus it is a long process here we are with you oleksandr said that as allies, they should confiscate resources, russian assets, and transfer them to us, but at this time, russia will of course transfer oil to china and india. there is no such force that can force china to change its policy, because communist china managed to keep it in power when the communist

party of the soviet union simply died, they are considered a huge achievement in the opposition to democracy, and this is not just a conflict with russia, ukraine, this is a conflict of democracy, authoritarianism, it just started on our territory, it will continue in in many territories, we are entering the decade of such a conflict. there will be many. there will be many conflicts. secure from the economic decade of difficult trials ahead, this is how the first half of the xxi century will be, you don't even have to think about what could be different, i hope that it will end somewhere in 2020 there 35 of the 45th year kyiv will be a victory for democracy but until this still needs to be persuaded to live there, not everyone will see it, but this is the first condition of the second - it is investment guarantees, this is what the

european officials actually talk about when they put forward conditions for us, the non-fulfillment of which can deprive us of the application, this is a transparent judicial system, no big money in our the country will not exist if someone believes that the courts are managed from the office of the president or from some oligarchic office, that a judge can be given an instruction or a bribe and he will fulfill the will of this or that person, as they say, influence in itself ukraine is a guarantee of freedom of information well, let's say that a week has passed since the electronic petition to the president about the return to the digital air of channel five's espresso and direct received the necessary 25,000 signatures for further consideration on the fourth of april, the mrt state concern unlocked these channels from the digital broadcasting without any explanations in an illegal way and it actually resembles the usual telephone right well, nevertheless, the

petition is already under consideration by the cabinet of ministers and the decision should be made public no later than july 13, i.e. next week, since such petitions are urgently considered no more than within 10 working days, he removed the publication of information about the start of the review, such information was published as to what decision to wait for and how important it is to return to the digital air of these tv channels, what does this have a global effect on if we speak our european way, let's understand the authority of the country, you perfectly understand that the officials who turned off the channels without any real decisions that would be justified legal and even without the illegal decisions of the regulators, and even if you were more illegal, you understand, but they are not actually saboteurs, because with such decisions they call into question the reputation of ukraine that we have been building for ten years, and it must be said right away that it will not be possible to mess with these reforms . it would be possible i would make a loop of ukraine if it were my money. all people who will

interfere with the european integration of ukraine, the euro-atlantic integration, help ukraine because it is about the physical survival of millions of people if there is no such money, a large number of people simply will not survive, this must be clearly stated. they must be deprived of the positions they did not hold and what support they did not use, it must be quite rigid and clear vertical decision-making people who do not understand that we do not have there is no other way out as a clearly conscientious person who must fulfill all the requirements of the civilized world should get rid of these positions within 48 hours, i believe that with these disconnection of digital channels it is from digital television channels that these officials also had be dismissed from their positions within 48 hours and should then be interrogated in the relevant authorities regarding who called on what occasion for what reasons what is the struggle for position also this person should have been dismissed from his position within 40 hours i

understand that this will not happen but i am sure that the moment will come when it will work just like clockwork, because not only russian money should be transferred to us, but every dollar that will be transferred to us will be carefully studied for the state's compliance with european the demands of civilized life and so correctly specialized by the anti-corruption prosecutor's office , today is the ninth of july, on july 1, the head of the european commission, ursula von der leyen, spoke in the ukrainian parliament and spoke about the fact that ukraine should eventually appoint a prosecutor herself, that this is important, it is important then to demonstrate our readiness to fight corruption and at the same time, which has already won the competition, well, actually, it has been going on for more than a year . this is the problem with delaying the appointment of the management of the specialized anti-corruption prosecutor's office and this week, lawyer maksym

kostetskyi wrote on facebook that instead of appointing the head of the sap, who had already been selected in the competition, they are trying to push deputy prosecutor general oleksiy symonenko to this position. first of all, it is not compatible with ukraine as a candidate and ukraine in the european union. status i simply believe that until we fulfill these conditions that we set, we know the past , negotiations will not begin about membership, which is important for the status of the candidate, if there is no victory for membership for years and that we will be sitting in this reception room. well, now already in the honorary more the status of candidate scientist of the european union for 10 or 15 years. i always want to remind you, listen, i will convince you. as soon as we fulfill all the conditions of the european union, we still have a rather difficult clarification of relations with our neighbors, god forbid that these negotiations do not block

some neighboring countries, such as today, bulgaria is blocking the start of negotiations with north macedonia, which has been waiting for the start of negotiations for 17 years because it did not fulfill this language, and because it had difficult relations first with greece, and now with bulgaria, and this too can take years i keep reminding you, firstly, it may take years to clarify these relations, you should not think that it will be easy , secondly, there will be two fours for the analysis of our legislation in accordance with the european union, then the victories themselves, if we want this process to be at least a little faster so that we get into the european union not in 2050, but in 2030 or 35. we do not need to delay the fulfillment of the obvious conditions. we need to move to the next stage of resolving our possible diplomatic conflicts with countries that are our neighbors and

better things to do to settle these conflicts , what then, when there will still be memory of this war, do you understand what is the meaning of the fact that when this war with russia will be forgotten, when it will go down in history , no one will hold a ceremony with ukraine, every country which will demand conditions regarding our historical policy regarding our situation with national minorities there, and it may be that ukrainian citizens are so shocked by this situation that i don't even want to talk about it, but now, from a moral point of view, no one will put forward such conditions to us as soon as possible we will proceed to the process of negotiations with the european union, there is a greater chance that these negotiations will begin at all, although i will honestly say that i believe that any country in central europe is not just any, there are certain countries, i just don't want them all it can be called for historical reasons or for reasons

let's put it this way, our vision of the position of national minorities, it can be hungary, so that other countries don't know, drag out this process of negotiations for 3-4 for 5 years while i look for a compromise, now in budapest, no one will do this you understand, because it will look ugly in relation to the ukrainian hungarians themselves. but if it happens two or three years after the war, if we say that we will fulfill these conditions , we will not fulfill them for a long time, and the war will end during this time and there will already be a process of recovery countries, that is, you can forget about the beginning of these victories not in the foreseeable future, that's why i say again that everything must be done as soon as possible now, right now, well, can it be faster, after all, our way to nato, let's understand also talking about the latest news of this week, the ambassadors of the countries on tuesday, july 5, nato members signed the protocols on the accession of finland and sweden to the alliance, and we see that against the background of the

threat from russia, there are such obstacles as the need to maintain and implement the action plan regarding nato membership or blocking the accession of these countries to nato on the part of turkey, they all took a backseat to the fact that finland and sweden sweden will become nato member countries in the near future what does this mean for ukraine in italy i think it means that ukrainians should call things by their names the russian federation is never serious were prevented from expanding over and at the expense of the countries of central europe and even at the expense of the grandfather countries , and i am not talking about finland, sweden, because the modern russian federation does not encroach on their territory, this historical period has simply passed the soviet union encroached on the soviet union, buried latvia, lithuania, estonia, tried to buy finland , occupied part of the philippine territory during the first soviet war of athens, and i think that if they were in the second world war and all these

circumstances, i would try to attack once again, how to buy finland in a complete state, and even created an alliance the republic that should be paska for finland carrello finnish ssr well, fortunately this did not happen and what would be fortunate if there were no happiness fortunately, because there was a great war, the situation changed geopolitically, with regard to ukraine and other former soviet republics, russia simply looks at these states as borderlands, as territories that should be annexed to the russian federation itself, it's not about nato, it's about a completely different concept, it's very easy to call maria, none of the former soviet republics to join any integration association that questioned the possibility of occupying their territory, that is, an association that would undertake the protection of these countries in the event of an attack by a third country therefore, i am convinced that russia is from the european union. i don't want them to speak, but they may think that

our introduction will be long, that they still have time, and then that they can attack the edge of the eu, if it is not in nato, that is the case in any case the question is not too much. and the question is that nato should become a reliable defender of our sovereignty and the only mechanism that could prevent russia from war with us and with finland, sweden, this has nothing to do with russia and they were never going to join finland, sweden, you understand and therefore when now they join nato, they are coming, you see that russia is completely cold-blooded, even transferring troops from the finnish border to ukrainian territory, although she knows for sure that nato does not threaten her, all this talk that nato threatens russia, you know, talk for idiots , in fact, russia itself is threatened, and again after all, it is not too much that russia threatens those countries that it wants to make part of russia. now, regarding our

accession, no one has seen this final list. i have seen the constitution of the union of soviet socialist republics. this list is there. is fully listed in this country and some members of nato also happened there, see the independence of latvia, lithuania, estonia was recognized by the state council of the soviet union itself, and the state council of the soviet union itself recognized the fact of the occupation of these countries by the soviet union, so that latvia, lithuania, estonia are supposedly outside this legal history and it is the soviet union that was already disintegrating, it is possible from the point of view of the russian leadership that they are a legal method because the decision of such a corresponding decision of some state council of the ussr on recognition i don't want the independence of ukraine or georgia