i think educations, which well, honestly, yes, not on camera, the truth is that they say that we are not ready. so you come down to our place and see what is being done in our basement, we are not ready. well, i ask a logical question. what can people say to me in response ? look at what the requirements are, starting with this , we will paint the walls, maybe we will hang a light bulb somewhere, and this is where the furniture, air filtration, sewage, electricity begin. all this must be done. i say well, how do you do it, they say. a new problem is the school, so i am the director, but basements , for example, are shelters in the city in which we are located. yes, i say. and what to do. well, here we have to, well, we are talking about communal small towns. well, here we have to go to the mayor. i am calling the city council. well, in particular well, that's also how i talked before the broadcast, studied the situation, what they told me to the city council, the mayor said i'm not against doing all this but you understood me, now i can order anything but

i don't know if the treasury will pay for it, and they all breed like that hands although, on the other hand, i was scrolling through public procurement now, well, i don’t know so many tenders for the arrangement of shelters somehow , that is, somehow this process went, that is, what information do you have about the schools in which well, there is no shelter from their in general, how are they now solving this story, is there anything to solve this story, and the situation is now developing in this way, according to the instructions of the president and the prime minister of ukraine, all military administrations have created commissions, representatives of the state emergency service are included there of police situations, e.e., the department of education. we gave ourselves to the state service of education quality as our structural division where the analysis of the existing shelters is going, the shelters can work

. from september 1, of course, if the school does not have the opportunity, anya can make the simplest shelter nearby in 5 minutes as they require the emergency services, there is no shelter, of course this school will work only online because we will not be able to take the children out and dress the children and the participants in the process, teachers and administrators, for some danger from the air of impact in many schools that were built before 1970 there is a storage there is about traditional shelters in the newest schools of course hello, nothing like this exists, but there is also a desire of the local authorities, there is also a requirement let's say it is a requirement of state policy that the school should become a place of safety that is why we we have to do it. everything depends on us in order to equip these simplest shelters. what the director says is that the school is his and the basement is his. the founder of the local government, the local council or the local territorial community in the budget, there is money for this in

the budget of local territorial communities , that is, i know clearly yes, these are different things, i know clearly excuse me, the minister of finance marchenko translated in the last interview, he directly says we have expenses for the army, there are salaries e- it's all the rest to the budget officials, well, the direct text means, well, i can't comment on the words of the administration, but from the point of view of local authorities, that is, as a deputy of the kyiv city council in the city of kyiv, there is money and it will be allocated for the arrangement of the simplest shelters parliament today, something depends on some decisions from the parliament, it definitely depends, that is, on the simplest shelters, and i think that it can stress parents when you say the simplest shelter, they do not want to send children to the simplest shelter that does not guarantee their safety , that is, it stresses something else in us as we repeatedly mention that the war does not last four months in seven

years, and as in all the previous years from 2014, we still ask in what condition even well, in what condition are the shelters and there are schools where there are no shelters, and how is that in general, yes, that is, they can actually exist, well , that is, they well, it’s just in my professional logic, if there is a school in a country at war, but it doesn’t even have, i quote, an elementary storage, then accordingly, you can simply conduct a fact-finding, you can come to the nuance how so that it’s just ukraine and he always remembers for himself an example of our realities is the city of ukrainka , there they decided to renovate, well, build a new building in the school, well, it seems like a good idea. yes, but there is an old school building and a new building for children was built nearby. well, we missed the moment, so one a wall with beautiful windows and all these windows open onto the wall of the old building to this question well, when the

school is already built, what to do, uh, they spread their hands. then the firemen came and said to the fireman, well , you know that. unfortunately, our realities are also sadder after a terrible incident we all grab our heads and start to solve everything, well, this is returning to peaceful times, the firemen issued this building there with 60 violations of fire safety, friends say. there, the stairwells were badly constructed according to the standards. so they just have to be demolished and so on. well, then you know nothing, they walked like that with a millimeter . at the last moment, we started doing it . do we have any questions for the parliament or does something depend on the resolution of this problem? we are in touch . roman, good evening, you are interesting

i'm listening to the discussion and i heard the question to the parliament about shelters and all schools are communally owned, that is, the city is responsible for them. evgeny said about the arrangement of the simplest shelters, and everyone has been talking about the problems with shelters since 2014. i went to my place in solomyansk several schools and looked at these shelters, let's call things our own, most often it's just a foundation and even with one exit , which are now needed and they are trying to somehow get started in order to start school year and here is the question in the next uh, every parent who knows where the child is studying and after the commission consisting of the air force and the police who makes a conclusion about the school they are already making a decision whether i am satisfied with such security measures or do i send my child there

specifically in this school with exactly such a shelter and such an algorithm algorithm of actions and tell me, please. and your family has students. there is a child who is now in kindergarten. we are deciding whether to go to kindergarten. which kindergarten is she in kyiv? my son went to the kindergarten, there was an air alarm, they went down, he didn’t understand anything and so he didn’t understand anything, they sat down, they came back. it’s clear. now , returning to the question what is it? well , the local self-government bodies have to decide, but now some local representatives directly say that well, we don’t mind. there is something in this story to do the same story with the state budget, all the subsidies that were in the state budget, including for the repair of schools, a subsidy for a support school, a subsidy for fire safety, they

all are cut, we know why, because all of marchenko's expenses go to the army or to social welfare, that is, from the state budget , they are not currently supported by any capital expenditures, because we understand, we understand that precisely thanks to this problem, we can get that in september schools are not they will have nothing except that they themselves, the parents will do it with their own hands . maybe the parliament should make some kind of decision about some kind of funding for the construction and arrangement of bomb shelters in schools, because we understand that the answer is this question is see this the issue of local budgets is that we understand everything, but this is a theory, and there is no money in the localities either, and we will come back to this story that in august, the school will set the parents the task that there is a basement, we will equip it with our own hands because we need to study and we need to do it in a different educational way there will be no process, well, this is real

, look in the parliament, we can adopt any law regarding the fact that funds must be allocated , every school must have a shelter, i do not think that at least one deputy will vote against this here the concept is how to realize where and where to take the money when the ministry of finance says that we do not have money now, in principle, they all go to uh, all expenses go to the army, here the question is, again, not to the parliament , here the question is to the finances of the state, it is also a question to of what was done by the local authorities - the local authorities for these schools and for these shelters, including these shelters, now in kyiv p andriy said that a budget is allocated from the local budget of kyiv for the repair of these shelters. i am not talking about the amount . and this amount. there we counted by e-e solomyansky district well, there will literally be a few of these shelters to make some cosmetic cosmetic things thank you mr. roman for your inclusion and well, we heard the position that

there is no money but the parliament supported us er roman hryschuk was in touch with us er member of the committee on education, science and innovation. look, yes , in kyiv, this is cool, yes, we live in kyiv. well, we understand that kyiv schoolchildren are lucky there, yes, but what should schoolchildren do in chernihiv sum, kharkiv? let's talk about kharkiv, yes. there is fear happening there every day, this is also this order of the ministry, the temporary restoration of temporarily occupied territories, there are weekly ones where the state board changes territorial communities, and there is a list of territorial communities and what approaches to hostilities, and we call them among ourselves, this is a zone of increased danger the zone of particular danger in these zones of particular danger it is necessary to do only the online process, i.e. the kharkiv mykolaiv community, the chernihiv part of the sumy region, where the active eyes go

action definitely donetsk luhansk e.e. kherson zaporizhia part of zaporizhia that is, we definitely need to organize there and in the online process. that is, we have provided almost all the tools for this, that is, everything that is possible, the teachers and school directors have , that is, the only thing we need is electricity, a computer, the internet now we are there google 40,000 more computers for teachers who have gone temporarily displaced persons then amazon will provide a tablet that is, we are working on this question the organization is online but understand that education is valuable first in turn, with their socialization, children should communicate with each other. they may see all their classmates only through smartphones. the primary motivation was that you so actively started to promote offline learning. what was it? i had a feeling that you wanted to give people hope to return to that. that the majority of mothers who now remain in europe are sacrificing their

careers and their jobs in order to give their children an education that we did not have. years - 3 years -3 years, this is what we are afraid of. we have such studies that are specific, definitely according to these studies, the quality and our children who are currently abroad in foreign schools. we monitor this situation with their academic performance. from them even only in schools where they do not know the language of the same french, here and there, children have to leave, first of all, so that the education system shows sustainability, and secondly , so that parents have the opportunity to work to the country's economy worked so that we, with our taxes, which we will pay when our parents are working, spent them on the army and not on reconstruction, so i wanted to read the post of yulia grishino, friends, she gave a report at a recent

conference in switzerland, and the numbers are really impressive, it is the issue of e-infrastructure e 210 educational institutions destroyed in ukraine 1843 damaged to build one ukrainian school costs 70 million hryvnias we need to completely rebuild more than 120 educational institutions that is eight and a half billion hryvnias just for construction almost a thousand more need to be repaired. and there are also universities, vocational schools, and other destroyed institutions, and the second challenge is that because of the war, 22.5 thousand teaching staff left abroad, that is 4% of the total number of teachers and 640,000 schoolchildren are still abroad and here i have it. you know this. i personally formulated an opinion for myself on how to motivate ukrainian children. well, first of all, parents. yes, from the european educational

institution, return to ukraine to a ukrainian school . where are you under the threat of a rocket year when in addition, in the same poland, they have already announced their readiness to accept 400,000 ukrainian schoolchildren , yes, to study in schools, it was just recently, the statement of temptations is many, yes, and the archive is an important question that yevhen asked, of course, the most valuable thing we have is our children, and you absolutely on the right , many european countries encourage our children to stay, when there were trips to european countries, meetings with temporarily displaced persons , we had a clear signal that if the schools will work, we will return, that is, and this is what he said approximately 80% of the people we met there i personally met there and people told me this directly to my face. therefore, this is our incentive

for people to return, for the economy of ukraine to work, the economy to be revived, because without education, education is understood well , this is a system-forming thing, even in many cities , in many small rural areas, the school is a city-forming enterprise where almost everyone works, if there are such studies, if there is no school, if there is no village, that is why it is such a thing, it is the foundation let's say this is our society and we will do everything that depends on us, everything possible so that the children return to the desk so that we do not lose children, so that we do not lose human capital, then this knowledge must be acquired during online education or during the period of war, they will lead to the loss of our human capital, we will not have the intellectual capacity to rebuild ukraine . have you already received some cuts, for example? of course, now even two months under these conditions is

also quite a long time, fingers crossed, but at least as of now, what kind of picture do you have of what the new academic year might be, yes, most likely, the academic year will be in the so-called mixed format, that is, part of the schools the offline part of the schools will open, they will work e-e online regarding the number of people who agree to return, i.e. i know instead of those i have this data, i.e. how can you voice the 1-4th grade 80% 82% are ready to return if the school will be from e-e to return from abroad and children will go to school fifth ninth grade somewhere there 70 89 and 80 81% and it is also nine - 10-11 grades children are ready to come ready to go to class if only the schools are open if the schools are not open and there will be training online well, you can study online from paris. you can visit the school there. we have these tools. we have an international school at

an international ukrainian school. that is, it is an online school that must issue an expert document in ukrainian on education. we have an online ukrainian school . there are many tools for online we have standard so-called lessons, that is, a standard lesson. what will it be? that is, it is a minimum opportunity and some other topic, but your numbers are impressive, but you know, we always have questions, but they sound rhetorical, like how to return our people, and here are just numbers that you they are voicing, just roughly speaking, this is the answer to the question, roughly speaking, the school is the answer to the question, well , judging by your facts, how to bring ukrainians back and the doors of their native school will definitely be opened before that. can you imagine the level of your responsibility, even personally, i do not say criminal responsibility, but moral and ethical responsibility, if, god forbid, which school a rocket will fly to, yes, i absolutely adequately assessed responsibility before, but still in our country and you

are going to take away from teachers this responsibility that they now bear for saving life the health of the child in the conditions of russian aggression , respectively, if you know how to speak, you can speak in the official's language, you can speak in the official's language, or in the official's language, you can speak in the language of a person if to speak in the language of the official, then in accordance with the current legislation, the head of the educational institution is responsible for preserving the life and health of the participants of the educational process, that is, if the head says i am not ready to go offline, i do not have the opportunity to do so, then he organizes the online process without question, we have an electronic one diaries we have electronic student journals organized the online process organizes and your children should study show the result and works of kyiv schools in particular they are ready e-e now there is a discussion in ukrainian society, in particular, among dire and in

let's say parents, yes, among all let's say stake holders, we have, well, you know, we have the largest sphere in ukraine, we have 29 million, we counted stake holders in the system of education and science. that is, it is a family where someone either studied or was a teacher or well, that is, a large number of people are connected to our sphere, our entire society is roughly divided in half, that is, monitoring the situation shows that i am three groups of people, the first group of people is for the offline world, the second group of people is categorically against offline education and for online, there are about 10%, they flow here and there. if in kyiv there is a great week there is no rocket fire, then they are all for offline, if a rocket arrived there on sunday, then they are all immediately for online, well, this is the situation on the website the president who won the appropriate number of votes in order to ban offline students in ukraine in general and to stop this discussion, the president will probably have

to respond to this petition with your help in one way or another, but we are really personally of the opinion that if we ban offline education in ukraine is why we will lose a certain generation of our ukrainians, we will lose our human capital, we will lose our potential working years, and we will lose a lot as a nation. well , the question of online education is that we first had the crown of the crisis. yes, the coronavirus and we everyone saw that here, for example, that online education is suitable for higher education students, for schoolchildren. it has completely different, different, different sides. other edges and other realities, and even here, the problem is not that teachers do not organize this process well enough and the question is that children are children and we are, how long have we been in such a semi-online educational process for what year can we enter the

third yes in the third in the third year and there are parents who are categorically for categorically against and those who parents have a very common argument why we studied online due to the coronavirus and it was not a problem and now we are considering whether to go to school or not it seems to me that the main problem is why we are talking about this precisely because we were already studying during the coronavirus and lost well in fact, two years of full-time education, if we were to start from scratch now to go online, i think that this issue has not even been discussed, we would have gone online, we would have endured a year there and it would have worked out, we would have returned, god forbid, to school, but now that we are talking about it, it is already the third year, i think that 's why the question arises, er, let's also divide , that is, if higher education is a professional-technical or professional precursor, and there are specialties, all of this humanitarian orientation. and there are doctors, there are train drivers, there are

pilots pilots i.e. how can they learn online i.e. this is in principle well let's call things our own if the pilot is all five years will study online well speaking firmly i this plane is not xiang we have to give people the right to choose it is a very difficult choice but we have to provide it. those who want to go offline, those who don’t want to have the absolute right to study online. those who want can use blend-litlonen there. that is, it is a combination of online. we said at the beginning that one teacher will be forced to teach offline in to your class and then additionally introduce lessons for those children whose parents decided to stay online as a matter of principle, yes, that

is . 2020 is not yet, well, you know this story. i know what the load is on the teacher and lecturer during the online process, that online processes are three times more difficult than offline education in terms of their preparation, implementation, and afterwards, in terms of checking the results. that is, i am saying this based on my own experience, there is definitely such a problem now, not all schools are staffed with teachers, but we have temporary relocation of people and those schools where there are not enough. regime i know that there are already mathematicians and physicists in the city of kyiv, if it was a shortage before, now in the city of kyiv there are no guys here, that is, the temporary transfer of persons from the luhansk and donetsk regions. i know that they submitted applications for a place works and these statements will be on saturday, i will casually ask you if there are plans to optimize the academic

year in terms of terms for children as well as for higher educational institutions who will go to study on august 15. and by the end of november they will pass all exams and actually complete the first semester ahead of schedule 2.5 they will sit at home for months when we will not have the opportunity to heat the premises or schoolchildren because of something like this can happen, i think that if there are, let's say, difficulties in providing heat to our schools, then we will definitely be able to move the school and in online education, so far, it is about making a tighter schedule for walking on saturdays, uh, this is not yet understood so that there is no overload of children in classes and no overload depending on the number of places in shelters, that is , therefore, it is necessary to optimize educational processes to tell the training. have you ever been interested in the recent israeli experience, how they solved this

issue , life is also in danger of rocket fire? home-made ones that fly to them and we have a professional army from above, well, with weapons that hit. that's why it 's a little easier for them to penetrate with these missiles, because they are manufactured there, there is somewhere to communicate, equipped with a shelter, they conduct trainings and have one and a half minutes to go down there and to feel safe, especially if we are going to this . we are also making changes to the defense in the program of the defense of the homeland. there, we will be unusual for modern things, for example, mine security, but the same thing will be done and training will also be in our of rivne, so that it is prescribed that we must conduct training with the scientific and pedagogical staff, we must move. if there is no school there, and somewhere nearby there is a shelter or a dual purpose or subway, we must also mark it. it must be practiced. it must be practiced until it becomes automatic.

summing up our block, i would like to say that ukrainians should understand that in fact the state and educators are doing everything today, and the ministry and the parliament and teachers and school directors are doing everything to ensure that the educational process 1 it started in september in any form. yes, online and offline. if the school has the capacity to make a shelter, yes, the school is doing it now. everyone has focused their efforts on this result and on us . each other and to understand that there is no 100% solution for everyone, the only correct preservation made a really correct logical step that friends, the choice is what you choose, the main thing is you - you will get it that way because, well , we are very lost, and it is beyond the mouth at all the word has passed that what you want is optional. and it is not

only the parents who will guide their children, but also the teaching staff of the school principals, which roughly speaking is the case where you have a choice. well, because we know that education in our country is usually famous for the voluntary-compulsory nature of actions yes, but here at least it is stated that there is a voluntary choice , and this is actually the most important thing: you have a choice and only you make it. it seems to me that on our broadcast today, 80% of ukrainians are ready to return to ukraine if the schools will be open yes, and this number should be in the majority. now it is before everyone. and we all should not speculate about this struggle. yes, online and offline, there is a repository for it. we must now trust the state, the ministry, our minister, who are also doing this and will help to arrange. we are already talking about our children are therefore friends, we are all dealing with this issue, we discuss it,

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