but hmm. the question is that these batteries are quite expensive and their principles are quickly depleted. this is a point system of air defense, which actually does not allow us to fully protect all our cities. the transition to our own patriots looks, of course, more rational, by the way. germany is co-purchasing an independent dome of an anti-missile defense system for another e-e with the use of another missile, understanding that we will also say the benefit of the magazine serhiy zgurets, a military expert, defect express was with us on communication is now a traditional minute of silence

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we will honor with a minute of silence the memory of the ukrainian military and peaceful citizens of ukraine who died in the war that was unleashed by russia. april and all this time nastya persistently, without losing hope, is looking for her friend, who is now forced to go abroad, the girl turned to us and told us very important details and photos from the raisin pubs in the telegram where the destroyed houses, corpses lie and on the 27th, they were already terrified that they were shooting a lot, they were recording voices. you could just hear the sound of explosions in izyum, there were very strong battles, and even before her disappearance

, nastya okopova was telling her friend in voice messages what horror she had to go through, and now we have the opportunity to hear her voice nastya is the message she sent to her friend at the beginning of march. i don’t even know how i fell asleep. that night, we fell asleep. god, i didn’t even take off my clothes. i don’t want anyone to sleep in the basement anymore. katya sent us fragments of her correspondence with insistence, the girl wrote that she was very scared and the city was suffering from heavy bombings. airplanes flew directly above us and shells fell nearby. they bombed how many were destroyed. at night, i could barely keep from crying. about 20 people died, and among them were children. despite the constant bombing and shelling, nastya found an opportunity to inform her friend that she was alive almost every day. and at the beginning of march

, communication problems began in the city, and this is what nastya wrote. the problem of the network is almost non-existent now , i use it, i write that with me everything is normal in the search, even the smallest details are important, so please pay attention to the fact that nastya lived in a five-story building on sofiivska street, we do not know the exact address, but it is known that the girl lived with parents she lives with olena's parents, and her father is vyacheslav. she has a brother, oleksandr. he has been hiding in the basement with her family for three years since the start of the war in izyum, and in march they decided to evacuate. and she managed to inform her friend katya about this at 5 in the evening, she wrote to me that they had left for a neighboring city, but she did not say where, as it turned out, the decision to leave was absolutely correct

, because as a result, the battle raisin was almost completely destroyed and many civilians died, but at the same time, there was no news from the cops for almost a month. i have been a girl since april 4 she made herself known and called her friend, unfortunately, nastya did not say where she was , she only said that she was alive and that the russians were jamming mobile communications, the internet was jamming, communication was jamming and she was able to call me, because somewhere on the wing of their house, if i pick up the phone, as you did, i can catch a call for a few minutes, and although nastya for some reason did not say where she was, there is information that the girl could go to relatives who live in the city of kup yansk, by the way, i know that it is in kupyansk that the russians are jamming mobile communications, in fact, this is what anastasia's friend was talking about, so it is quite likely that nastya kopova, her mother, father and brother really left for kupyansk, it has been a long time since april.

time and, unfortunately, since that moment there has been no news about the girl, it is not excluded that nastya is still in the occupied territory, so i am asking you, and especially the residents of the temporarily occupied izyum and kupyansk, if possible, you can see this program. please look carefully at the photo of nastya akopova if do you know any information about her or where she might be, call us immediately on the hotline at 116 000. i understand that it is very difficult to call from the occupied territories where the russians are cutting off the connection. if you do not succeed, please try to write to the chat bot service of the search for children in telegram, even the smallest information can help us in the search for nastya of the planet of seconds, it is already just rolling around, they are just sleeping in their bed, they are not afraid of anything further , although i really hope that everything is fine with your mood it will be possible to find her. i also ask you to go to the website of the

child tracing service, look at the faces of these boys and girls, they are all missing, if you recognize someone, call us on the hotline at 116 000 calls from all mobile operators are free , also write to the chat bot of the child search service in telegram. unconquered cities of ukraine is the cossack city of izyum, where one of the oldest buildings of the slobozhanshchyna is located. the transfiguration cathedral was the center of the famous izyum regiment. twice

found itself in the center of fierce battles today. raisins again. on the line of fire, scorched and in the evening, but ready to stand for victory. raisin is quick. we continue the live broadcast of the espresso tv channel. thank you what are you with us next, qualitative analytics, in particular, we will talk about the belarusian factor, taking into account the fact that today is such a sad anniversary , sad already for ukrainians, i don't think that only for belarus 28 yes from 94 28 years ago, lukashenko became the president of this countries that are interesting and revealing. on the same day and in the year 94, leonid kuchma was also elected president in ukraine. well, just count how many presidents there are and how they changed in our country, and

they still have visas there. well, you know, when it comes to the belarusian factor in general we now we are talking about the russian-ukrainian war , it is difficult, it is difficult, in fact, somehow to formulate a resignation to belarus and to understand its status in this war, in my opinion, it is obvious that it is the aggressor because it provides a platform for our cities to be shelled in order to for russian bases to be deployed on their territory so that russians in general could go to kyiv oblast, chernihiv oblast, and other ukrainian regions, therefore well, this is de facto the case, and there is an opinion that the belarusians themselves are not delighted with the russian war the federation is against ukraine, what is against ukraine, that they are under internal occupation. at the same time, it is quite difficult to understand what belarusians think, because there is absolutely no adequate

sociology in the country, and here i again mention our country and our really great achievements in this direction, we do not know what they are breathing belarusians now, besides, they have been in total propaganda for dozens of years and with the same president. well, they do not have purely mental imperial ambitions like the russians, but it seems to me that when it comes to about belarus. at the very least , we ukrainians lukashenko need to treat this factor with caution and vigilance. these actions were really crowded, but they stood on the principles of absolute peace and some of the ukrainians, well,

let's just say they didn't run away because the molotov cocktail works better on people of the authoritarian type, but lukashenko than shooting i don't know slippers and sneakers before standing on the benches with flowers, but this is our ukrainian point of view, we can subjectively express our assessment and our opinion on this account there in any case due to the fact that lukashenko surrounds himself with a rather strong circle those security forces who pack up people who mock them in pre-trial detention centers somewhere because the belarusian people themselves may not be able to touch us, we are suffering now and to be honest your freedom ends where the freedom of another person in your country begins, you are certainly right do whatever you want, even agree to any regime that you like or don't like, but when here our interests ,

i'm sorry, are violated and come into play. well, we would like to be involved in certain changes in the republic of belarus. we are already in touch with our next guests, please let us know yes, this is valery matskevich, a belarusian opposition politician - a member of the belarusian coordination council, mr. valery, we congratulate you glory to ukraine, a good bell, glory to the heroes and oleksiy haran, political scientist, scientific director of the democratic foundation initiative named after ilka kucheriva, professor of the department of political science, naukma p oleksia i congratulate you glory to ukraine well, let's start yes, today is sunday , today is a divine day and in general, sunday is a ukrainian word because there is no work today, people do not work today, they praise god, the following applies to let's start even today's date on one day, and it was news to me, leonid kuchma and oleksandr hryhorovych lukashenko were elected presidents of their countries for the first time, and

what are the different destinies of these two characters, who in principles well, at the start of the presidential campaign, the ambitions looked quite similar, one was, well, the only thing was that one was the head of a collective farm and the other was the director of a large enterprise, but the rhetoric was very similar, the rhetoric was so pro-russian, for industry, for the people, for the management of the economy, this is working people are in favor of establishing close contacts with the russian federation, but not much time passed, and one of them became, well, a world outcast, an exile and dictator of his country, and the other remained in in principle, a more or less respectable person, mr. oleksiy gran, well, despite all the ambiguity of our attitude towards mr.

kuchma, or that of some of our viewers, he is still a respectable person in the world and can at least go to any country and shake hands with any a world leader despite all the scandals surrounding him yes, first of all, with the murder of gongadze, why is there such an almost identical beginning and such a different ending, please is this not the finale of kuchma okuchma, there was also a situation when he fell into isolation and you remember this cassette tape the scandal of the murder of gongadze, then the scandal surrounding the chain mail. and we remember that at that time they even arranged seating according to the french alphabet so that the leaders of the united states and great britain would not sit next to ukraine, so it was because it was both countries, it started in the united states, the united states and ukraine did so they were supposed to sit next to each other according to the alphabet, so they did it so that the seating was according to the french

alphabet, that is, kuchma is also an ambiguous figure , but in general, i think political scientists will tell these historians that he played an important role in the history of ukraine moreover, he managed to stabilize the situation in ukraine after the crisis of the 1990s, the economic crisis of 1993 , he suppressed his brother in the crimea, then ukraine itself, although it was multi-vector, but began to move towards the european union and nato, these provisions were fixed precisely under kuchma, this is not yushchenko came up with it, kuchma, and why did it happen? i think the difference between ukraine and belarus was that, well, we were lucky in the sense that we had a much stronger tradition of statehood , that is, it turned out to be hysterical, appropriate and the political culture of ukrainians was somewhat different and our opposition was always powerfully represented in

the parliament, unlike russia and belarus, it played a very important role and simply could not be ignored, and as a result, the roof of our president. many of them were elected on some pro-russian slogans, but when you understand that it is more true not on pro-russian slogans, but on the slogans of improving relations with russia, but when they were elected, they had to take into account the opinions of a large part of the population, the opinions of the opposition, political pluralisms that we had constitutional design in accordance with this time to take into account these opinions because the society so clearly articulated and suppressed them or because our politicians were so weak and not authoritarian and were ready to listen to

society, that is, the situation in ukraine is like this the so-called pluralism by default, because ukraine has different powerful players in ukraine, it is impossible to monopolize power, any president who tried to monopolize power, he faced the maidan, and here and in front of the elected presidents always asked the question, do you want to be the president of a part of ukraine, or do you still want to be the president of the whole of ukraine, even though i had to take the second one? and that's why he actually, i'm already saying that actually the course on yes to nato first appeared for him well, rhetorical, but it was enshrined in our legislative acts, for the first time he remained the

most popular politician in ukraine according to our sociology, and ukrainians liked lukashenko for a very long time. and i would say that until recently, absolutely until recently, lukashenko as a phenomenon is one of the most i've been there for a long time i don't know long-term and long-lived presidents on the eurasian continent, in general, what is his phenomenon? i think that your question is, it should be noted that, uh, you know lukashenko, for 28 years, has gone a long way from insulting parents to uh let's say yes to the true image. when in 2020 it became obvious to everyone in belarus. but since february 24, the myth of the parents was debunked

in ukraine. he was noted now for a really long time, you had parents like the belarusian one. when in belarus, no one considered him a father anymore. somewhere, according to different accounts, it could be 2010 . a-a-a got used to him eh-eh in belarus, it’s sly , you know, they called him sly, why they called him sly , because eh, he’s the main model. management er liked to recall hitler's er german order only then, you know, he got away with it somehow, not many people paid attention to it, only

his own opposition politicians raised this question, such a strange a-but lukashenko’s propensity and love in the german order, and then it began to manifest everything in the field is obvious, but because of propaganda, because of the killing of political opponents, and here you have already talked about the comparison with the ukrainian experience, i just want to note that in belarus parliamentarism, or let’s say, in principle, the influence factor of the parliament ended back in 1996 when, in fact, lukashenko, with the help of the kremlin, conducted one of the then-important referendums, and essentially usurped power in the country. -

and the demands of the belarusians because of the mass demonstrations, i reminded that in 1996 and 1999 there were hundreds of thousands of demonstrations in minsk. lukashenko simply switched to the killing of political opponents and i reminded that in 1999 er under various circumstances e-e began to disappear e-e high e-e belorussian e-e must stand including e-e the minister e-e of internal affairs including the head of the central assembly committee all of them were stolen by the so-called and squadrons of the heart e-e now the details are already different uh, uh, they are floating uh, through the media, because of the investigation, because it is obvious that these events are already starting to speak on camera, and uh, i think that soon we will know everything about all the crimes of lukashenko and he

uh undoubtedly, uh, answer for them, uh, i think that they will be together with putin, now he already answers uh, look a little later. yes, and among others, dmytro zavadskyi, also our colleague cameraman pavla sheremet, then disappeared under unexplained circumstances . kuchma in belarus put vyacheslav kebich on vyacheslav kebich, and in principle he was the favorite until the end of this campaign. prikevich was the second in the show, lukashenko was the second at that time, and there was a situation in which the belarusians chose between openly, let's say, on the

nomenclature of the topic, what is the person behind whom the red directors stood, and lukashenko then tried to present himself as a fighter against corruption, as uh, a horse, uh, democratic at that time, how everyone seemed to be valuable, well, in fact , he showed himself very quickly he frankly wanted to reunite belarus with russia i expected to become the head of the union state, but in 1999, first, with the beginning of putin's era, all this rhetoric changed to this great flirting with russia on completely different conditions. we don't know what would have happened if president stalkevich had been there. мы теперь часто моем бизнес что стало когда обставил лукашенко thank you. and what has

russia's excessive friendship with belarus led to , including military friendship ? the territory of the belarusians, the russian troops enter precisely from the territory of belarus, into the ukrainian, into the ukrainian zhytomyr region, kyiv region, sumy region, chernihiv region, let's take a look at the short well, not so short, lukashenka's timing is enough, the speech he announced was enough. independence this is also a question well, this is already my personal opinion about the close cooperation of the belarusian and russian troops during the war against ukraine direct language tragedy well we always we are saying that the truth is stronger and the truth is today on the side of brotherly russia. we are the only country

that supports christians in this struggle. and how many countries are there on the other side, there are almost half a hundred who are actually fighting against russia in ukraine , something is not balanced, and in general, who is attracting us? they did not know that we have a tighter union of the russian federation with the state with which we are building a united powerful independent state . where are two independent peoples in the union ? we are walking on thin ice and this experience for the first time in the world, we must show others this example and that they did not know that the union of belarus of russia was created a long time ago. the united armed forces

is actually a united army. the russians , for example, are fighting against us, that is, they want to occupy our territory, if they are the only ones, we often talk about whether the belarusians will go there, i would not like it to happen and so on, but well, de facto lukashenko says yes , ours has been here for a long time. so that indeed, every ukrainian understood that lukashenko fell on a valuable co -aggressor, therefore, indeed, these are the conversations, and lukashenko will enter the war, does lukashenko lead a war, lukashenko is a full-fledged aggressor, he completely surrendered the territory of belarus the territory of belarus, all

the infrastructure used by putin, used by the russian troops, that today, directly, the belarusian troops will also be told not to participate in the battles. they did not cross the border, this is not because lukashenko does not want it wants the belarusians to fight with the ukrainians, uh, this only says that, unlike the russians, the belarusians really have a sociology that we have. we know the numbers that say that belarusians, unlike russians, do not support russian aggression in the majority and totally do not support and oppose the participation of the belarusian army in this war you know what they do not support and oppose

are different things, i simply have never seen any protest against the war in ukraine on the territory of belarus and you say that lukashenko is the aggressor and the belarusian people are not the aggressor in your opinion because of the action i believe that the most the demonstration action was the undermining of railway tracks, it is necessary to give credit to the belarusian railway workers and now they are almost facing the death penalty. if i am not mistaken, there are three suspects in such undermining. they are already being condemned in belarus, these were really actions of protest. but maybe there are people like you. yes, three people out of 10 million belaruss definitely spoke out against the war in ukraine. three people, what percentage would say that today i would just like to remind them of such explosions. as you said, there are also various other actions that are not allowed to pass on time by the russian shell, there were more than 80, and these are the numbers

that the regime itself recognized, and it was much more . продолжаются и были место быть, but uh, well, you need to understand that today in belarus for such actions , people really get a real term, and when detained, they get injured, as in fact the very partisans, and uh, i think that today we can see that foreign intelligence is being conducted in belarus, such as the telegram channel belorussian kayun, the information of which is used by the ukrainian military, which warns and in those strikes there are movements of russian troops, but here i want to remind you about what is happening in belarus today just the other day, a young 18-year-old girl was sentenced to six and a half years

in a penal colony just for a post on facebook, and it is related to anti-war rhetoric, that's why people in belarus are starting to adjust their position regarding the war . indeed, they add to the already existing thousands of political prisoners who are currently in prison in belarus since the protest in 2020. thank you, mr. oleksiy , we have literally one minute when we talk about sociology in belarus, any data that can be used to rely on you as the scientific director of the rk kuchereva democratic initiative foundation, thank you for all the sociological research on which we also rely, well, this is a great work, this is a great achievement of independent ukraine, but sociology in belarus, what are we talking about when we generally apply this thesis, this phrase what it shows is that it is very difficult to conduct a reality sociological survey just the other day it was printed by