so we need anti-missile systems of patriotism that are more long-range and then we will have a multi-layered anti-aircraft and anti-missile defense. if all these systems are combined, then they will give the effect that ukraine needs, dmytro. well, how does mykolaiv oblast generally feel the support of the west in matters of providing weapons against the aggressor, how has the situation in this area changed over the past few weeks? please look at the provision and use of weapons in the west. this is a question, after all, for higher headquarters of the legendary headquarters there, i can only state to you that the warehouses began to burn much more often, as in the occupied territory, more depth, that is, the enemy feels that the picture of the theater of war has changed a little, and they began to get although they, for example, yesterday, chornobayivka itself burned down, that is,

with chernobays, and they even got there without western samples but nevertheless, it feels that they are a little out of mood, not in the mood, it feels that they are suffering losses, according to our information, in some areas, the losses are quite heavy and 50% of course, it is no longer a secret for anyone that in our direction american howitzers are used, american british howitzers and intercity . dmytro pletchuk in front of the officer of the lock of mykolaivska was in touch with us now let's break for some important information awareness after that

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through the prism of war every day author's projects on espresso what's up we continue our live etermeria gurska andriy zaychuk work for you in the live espresso marathon and in connection with us guest first at this hour valery klochok political economic expert-international and the head of the charity fund new road with us in touch congratulations mr. valery i congratulate you i congratulate you friends i wanted this week which became known yesterday it is about the fact that president volodymyr zelenskyy by his decrees dismissed a number of ambassadors of ukraine in various countries are capitalized ukraine in hungary norway czech republic india part-time e in the republic of maldives in nepal sri lanka and bangladesh well and the most discussed rotation is the dismissal of andriy melnyk from his post

ambassador of ukraine in germany, we will remind that melnyk headed the diplomatic representation of ukraine in this country for the last 8 years. well, let's try to figure out what the effect will be and how melnyk's release can affect the allocation of arms of support from germany in ukraine and how timely this rotation is in general during the war, i am asking mr. valery, well, in relation to other countries other than germany, there are different versions of why the dismissals took place, but at the expense of melnyk. well , it seems to me that melnyk will be offered more powerful position of something something, i get the impression that german media say that melnyk may take the post of deputy minister of foreign affairs in the near future. well, i did not read the quote from the german publications, but for some reason, you see , the opinions are the same, so please continue, that is, what

will be the effect, after all, others the fact is that indeed a lot was written in the german edition about the fact that melnyk behaved unworthy of his position as a diplomat for many years, but now we can really. well, for example, i also wondered why exactly such harsh her statements, but melnyk knew much more than we did, so he had grounds for such harsh statements, and indeed, as a politician, the german public evaluated his statements quite harshly and generally called him a non-standard diplomat who goes outside the framework of generally accepted norms in this part, of course yes, but not only the miller will be the only one to determine germany's decision regarding the transfer of weapons. well, the last case that must be taken into account is a political diplomatic inter-governmental battle between the german government and the government of canada regarding the supply of a siemens turbine, which was there

for maintenance and will ensure the operation of the north stream for the delivery of gas from russia, yes , yes, of the north stream, one is absolutely correct, the volume of this gas in this gas transport system reaches about 21 billion hryvnias of cubic meters of gas for europe, it is approximately today somewhere , yes, one, er, 15 1/20th, within these frameworks, a part of gas consumption is necessary. that is, it is not decisive for this thread, although for germany it is really very important, because this is where gas is located directly first to germany, but here are such exceptions and sanctions, he can indicate that, for example, the dismissal and possible further promotion of melnyk, the supply of turbines to germany will unblock the issue of the supply of weapons for the same piece of transport armored personnel carriers in which we know

the history of last week that the government blocked the supply to ukraine and they will also arrive with other weapons, that's why here, for now, you know, the chess game is quite difficult, i really don't see any treachery in relation to the blast furnace. who commented on his dismissal, and knowing him, we already know that he can give himself to the hot heart of both non-diplomatic types and others, so i hope that he will really take up a position in the higher diplomatic corps of ukraine if he is appointed as a deputy colleague. it will be very good. there are a number of critics in to the ukrainian political community and among the expert circle, what they say is that melnyk used not quite the right rhetoric, but you know, i am once again saying my personal opinion. i personally do not care what the rhetoric was, the main thing is the result for us weapons and the result in this part as well. he believes that he did the right thing today in the culture. the best evidence of melnyk's effectiveness is the provision of

ammunition to ukraine, in particular, for self-propelled cheetah artillery installations. and in general, the unblocking of many e-e on the issue of weapons is the direct effect of melnyk's sharp criticism of the german government. well, let's move on. and another important event this week is a meeting heads of foreign affairs in the format of the g20 at the ball this week, and the participation of russia was attended by the head of the foreign ministry of the agrasorb country, sergey lavrov, who was ashamed. lavrov ran away from the ball after the leaders of the countries did not want to be photographed with him at the official photo session and did not stay for the afternoon working session the head of the foreign ministry of germany,

elena berbuk, flew home early. he accused lavrov of avoiding dialogue. why did lavrov come to the ball and what is the significance of everything that happened there for us, for ukraine, i would neither exaggerate nor underestimate would be the significance of this event because it really , in my opinion, reflected the desire of russia to influence the processes and at the same time showed consolidation at the level of heads of the video, this is very important so far we have lost in the state, we do not say thank you this is a very important clarification that they are not in a hurry to establish direct contacts with lavrov and, well, with russia, because such measures are consolidating. well, the same story from bugagan, and especially there were no decisions in switzerland, but the lugano declaration is a fact, for now. at this stage, as long as the war continues, we should work specifically on the consolidation of ukraine, the issue

of forming an anti-russian coalition, and in economic and military matters, that is why the summit of the g20 in this sense demonstrated considerable effectiveness. you know, these are simple steps for the general public. asked why are they fighting against russia, when will they stop the war in ukraine, well, at first glance, it also seems like what is the point. but at the same time, the world today is beginning to understand. it is still too early to understand that russia is committing acts of terrorism and a murderous war that has no basis for a general war in ukraine. by definition, this should not be done by them and it must be stopped immediately, because returning to the example, as we have already talked about the same germany, the supply of gas is very important a factor in the formation of the position of the countries will be precisely the social component, which will largely be ensured by the energy security of citizens, and

if at events such as the level of the g20 , the small and others will raise the question of what it is russia that is to blame for everything, and accordingly the world will make adequate decisions, so you know, here is such a demonstrative e-e cat way out. well, here you can choose many epithets and characteristics for what happened. it shows that the world is really united against russia, it is very important that it will give for us, first of all, it gives us broad support. and what it will give to russia, this is still the main question, no matter what, the information field is making its way little by little in the russian federation, and of course we can say with a great deal of innocence that the processes which are necessary for us, including changes in the political structure in russia. they are taking place. maybe they are so pronounced even now, but the problem with that is that zakharova takes low -quality photos of the forest telephone, which is very, very bad. these are supposedly small

things , but politicians that is why this event is really significant for me. but again , it is not worth exaggerating the significance in terms of practical implementation for now. concerned the plan for the recovery of ukraine, which you just mentioned, valery. let us remind you that on july 4, the ukrainian government presented a plan for the recovery of the country foreseen for 10 years, which covers 15 areas. of this plan in particular . as for its dispersion, for example, i personally am also surprised that there is, let's say, not as much attention as the experts emphasize, as it would be logical

now, that is given to the actual military development, of this 750 billion, about 50 only goes to military expenditures, and the rest to all kinds of investments, it mainly concerns energy, logistics, as well as machine building, furniture and woodworking, metallurgy, the mining industry of the digital state, and so on and so on and so on, that is, there are very, very many priorities, but in your opinion, have we determined the main ones, please, mr. valeria, you know , i will start with the good ones, because it is really very interesting. concentratedly, i will not repeat what you said, because theses are absolutely divided, and it was really necessary to prioritize what

else, and in this part of the criticism, i divide a lot of it, but regarding the positive, i would like to say one such thing, the most important thing, which on the big twenty the middle place of foreign affairs, it was that today, well, for today, figuratively speaking, representatives of more than 40 countries gathered in lugano, switzerland. yes, it is not of the highest level in terms of protection , it is also worth noting, but they signed an important document that means that the world will still consider the issue of investments at a high level at a fairly high level in ukraine. the development of political processes in ukraine, how can the government change places after victory, this is also very important. and if such processes take place, then of course the state will develop. we do not want to have any permanent intelligence there. excuse the quotation marks as then in the democratic republic of the congo or in russia today thank you mr. valery, valery klochok was in touch with us, he is a political economic

expert, an internationalist, the head of a charitable fund, a new road, let's talk about belarus. it turned out very well . by the way, i have an article by yuriy svyridenko here they say that it is necessary quickly and that it is necessary quickly that pavlo and 171 have been friends for 28 years, when lukashenko won , it was also sunday, by the way, when, after 1994, the first president of belarus, oleksandr lukashenko, was elected to his post, after which he did not allow him to let's watch the material of our journalists. independence for belarus began, as it did for most post-soviet republics, with the popularly elected president stanislav shushkevich, a new flag and coat of arms, but gradually and confidently belarus turned from an independent republic into a dictatorship. oleksandr lukashenko

destroyed freedom of speech and opponents, and already 28 years and it started still in 1994, before the presidency, lukashenka was known as an uncompromising fighter against corruption and a few months after his election as the head of state, the parliament heard a report on corruption in the circle of the president himself, at the same time, censorship reigned in the republic because there were no live broadcasts or articles from the event. the language of the state status required the consent of the parliament for this, the majority did not object, but those who disagreed were persuaded by force. however, in belarus they swallowed

the idea that one by one alone and being in different, as we used to say, national apartments. we will never get out of this mire, and then lukashenko under his regime decided to rewrite the constitution, which is quite convenient for him . lukashenka's seven-year term of office started from scratch, new elections were held through the public in 2001, although none of the other candidates could compete with lukashenko by a huge margin. defeated his opponent volodymyr goncharyk,

the results of the elections were not recognized by the belarusian opposition neither the usa nor the eu however, this did not bother the dictator lukashenko subsequently, he generally began to purge political opponents among them yuriy zakharenko viktor gonchar anatoliy krasovskyi and dmytro zavadskyi the pseudo presidential election in 2020 turned into an open one a farce patient belarusians finally dared a civil protest a wave of peaceful demonstrations against parents swept through the republic lukashenko did not change his tried and tested strategy opposition presidential candidates, and already after the cec registered the candidacy of svitlana tikhanovskaya, rallies became more active in various cities of the republic, they gathered several thousand protesters, of course, the authorities prevented them,

however, it has not yet been possible to overthrow the dictatorship regime, today there are hundreds of belarusian political prisoners and thousands of people in general left the country, the opposition is convinced that lukashenka's regime is holding on, and only with the support of the kremlin . and let's start a difficult conversation with them about belarus, about today's date and about what i want to expect from ukraine in the near future from neighboring belarus oleksandr kozachok, head of the civil initiative, peaceful people, we welcome mr. oleksandr and pavlo latushko - member of the presidium of the coordination on behalf of the belarusian opposition, we congratulate you, mr. pavel. i congratulate you. what else, let's start with today's date. 28 years in the position of

lukashenka . hateful power, let's start with you, mr. oleksandr, then, mr. pavel, let's listen to a few words about today. that belarus is occupied cannot be occupied by one person in belarus. but this is a discussion. well, thank you for inviting me on the air . well, first of all, when we are going to talk. were used in order to receive the second question by what time, let it be all well, for sure, yes, the concert, and viburnum, as well as external circumstances,

will not interfere with this. all sorts of events are planned by the state-owned er let's say so ideologues and lukashenko himself is sure that parliamentary elections will be held in the 24th year. then after the parliamentary elections, the entire belarusian hoshkhod will be organized when he will be elected to the entire belarusian assembly in the 25th year, the worst of all already er, well, there won't be anything more unusual about the lines. it will probably not be discussed for the next time. well, honestly, for the next time. that's how the kaligetic will say objectively, and i. what external circumstances can er contribute to the fact that he well, this is an ugly situation in ukraine, how will the war develop, and the kremlin's reaction to it, it wants to take over a corporation in belarus, and it doesn't want to take a corporation in

belarus, these are two factors that can affect that есть что это will not be the 25th hour of other factors within the country, i still don't see it, let's listen to mr. pavel. if i'm honest, the person using the term occupation used it precisely in the context of the original origin of the word occupation, the seizure of power, and i believe that the power in belarus is captured by the proclaimed president who usurps his own population prior to this, he served the force methods and actually his punitive police state, but very, very recently , i heard the same thing from dmitry bykov, who is often included by russian publicists and writers there and he said that there is no need to blame us, putin occupied us, well, this already makes me laugh, because i laugh because i remember the wonderful events of the 20th year that we covered on the air of our tv channel,

when belarusian activists were raped in car parks with batons, and i it doesn't make me laugh, maybe bykova makes me laugh when, for example, a russian commentator says that putin occupied russia, so there is no need to blame us for anything, they are occupied by the russians, we are occupied by changes in the middle of the country, but we see that here well, the situation has come to a certain impasse when the police car is stronger than the population and there are more police officers per person than civilians, but let's listen , fool, what do you think about this, mr. pavel, i don't quite agree with the previous one as a speaker, i believe that a lot

depends on what we will do inside. first of all, russia actually occupied belarus - this is a hybrid occupation of the presence of the armed forces of the russian federation without the consent of the belarusian society of the people, you are a violation of the constitution, the territory of belarus is being used for aggression in the relations of ukraine, and the hybrid occupation consists in the fact that eh, we are the facts of the occupied information, cultural, ideological, and this is only expanding, we also understand that putin does not renounce the history of the creation of the neo-soviet state the union or the neuro russian empire with the absolute dominant russian federation, therefore, there will be a question of a gift for putin for the next elections, and as a gift, he certainly sees belarus as russia together and, god forbid, the occupied territories of ukraine, therefore, he will

continue we are talking about the creation of a national liberation movement as an instrument that could change the situation inside belarus and influence the processes of related to the fact that we are actually facing the threat of losing our independence, let's literally give mr. oleksandr another minute and a half, let's start with what to expect in ukraine and whether the belarusian army will enter the war against the ukrainian state, i am asking mr. oleksandr, i literally wrote the article not so long ago on facebook, you have already indicated the question of whom to remind. well, this is a short thesis that, uh, now there are no circumstances, and why did belarus enter the war at all , uh, now there is a doctor, the army is already overpowered, well, in ukraine

there is already corruption. well, there is no such factor of surprises anymore , and there is no access. now the belarusian army will give in. boyko, there are no belarusians on the coals, eh, not very much. i wo n’t say that the whole society is suprax. the question, but the time of the community slows down, more , more often, more than 80 percent, i carry wars as actions , and now there is no money on the part of the belarusian army, there is no such systemic manipulation in ukraine. well, nothing extraordinary is happening for this, of course, those who are there in the summer, the summer , eh, the preparation of mobile phones, the call-up of the mobilization reserve, here is the worst, that is, such a question . could it be that this money is not from the side of russia

, this could be some money from ukraine that provokes they are preparing the situation and moving me to the second level, well, it's just open, but no, thank you, mr. oleksandr. well, by the way, mr. latushko, i quoted yesterday on the air of the political club with vitaly portnikov, and they also analyzed the situation in belarus, and they also analyzed your interview, mr. pavly for e nv de you talked about the fact that you actually have reason to believe that lukashenko will still decide to invade ukraine, please share your thoughts about this support of russian troops , according to our guest, this will happen but such a scenario is inevitable. please, mr. pavla, what is your argumentation ? first of all, we must point out that lukashenko is already a participant in the war, he provided territory and provides maximum

assistance in aggression against ukraine, and this is the basic thesis that needs to be strengthened otherwise, this is how they affect the consciousness of belarusians. it is very contradictory, let's say, this influence leads to the fact that the majority of belarusians generally believe, or half, that we are not participants in the war, and thanks . that belarus is not a participant in the war, therefore it is necessary to very clearly formulate the thesis of training in ground operations, and this is fundamentally important as it relates to ground operations, taking into account the activity that observes now taking into account the ongoing informational propaganda work i would not rule out options for participation, but only with the understanding that this will happen not independently in the relocations in belarus, but together with the russian armed forces, or in the event that there is a merger in