we are talking about their effectiveness, maybe you still know some examples or we are just wrong about it, they just don’t talk about it. we only now started to receive videos of their use, so i think that it is the same as the keepers, you remember, they said a lot. and where is it, and everyone these videos are precisely the use of bairaktars because the bairaktars were used more as reconnaissance and than in the old days precisely during this deliberate invasion of ukraine, we also learn in a very large number exactly how they used fac facts were used, but later on, in general, i cannot say that we had any such catastrophic problems precisely with the use of any weapon that we know about, that we have heard about, and therefore everything depends on exactly under what conditions and for exactly what purpose it is

used because well, in fact , sometimes weapons are used in those conditions in which it is not, well, not effective. well, it really will be the same efficiency, the coefficient of effectiveness is zero. thank you very much. after the war on the world markets it is yes yes to restore and just like the defense potential we can talk about the successful developments of ukraine and we will return in a few minutes, a short break and we will talk about dustless, this also seems to me to be the future of weapons in this field we will rebuild before we launch we will win what do you not news, together we are strong, kateryna osadchai's project to search for the missing, find her today at 9:30 p.m., parents and children are separated by war, she lost contact with her son in

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family unbreakable we are all relatives family there is ukraine, watch the project to find your own kateryna osadchai from the search for the missing today at 9:30 p.m. 1+1 is back on the air with you project guard we talk about the world arms market and then we will raise the topic of drones because it seems to us that they really are the future and let's join the air immediately our next guest, artem vyunyk, is the director of the atlonamiya production enterprise, he

is engaged in the production of drones, and i think he knows exactly what the trends are today in the air among drones good evening panel good evening. i think for a start you should help us and the audience to understand and find out what you are representing this market because it is known in ukraine about the byraktar, but in fact these models are used a little more, but you are rude speaking of an expert, a person involved in this case what about this market today? well, in principle, the market is quite developed today, both the world market and the ukrainian market, because since the 14th year, many companies have appeared in ukraine that produce unmanned complexes of various classes in in principle, this is mainly a battlefield solution, that is,

a small radius of action of up to 50 km, but there are also solutions with a slightly larger radius of action and a longer flight duration, and in principle, most of the e-e solutions that are produced in ukraine are still complexes of intelligence and they are used both for joint military reconnaissance and artillery reconnaissance and for adjusting artillery fire . also, the market of strike systems is developing in ukraine. there are already solutions that, in principle, are about some tests. currently, our company is already selected to the tests of your decision er barrage munition mmm this is this but it is in principle, well, in fact this is already this and is the market of ukraine in ukraine, unfortunately , unmanned systems of the byraktar type or a higher class, i.e. operational-tactical already

level a, are not produced, but i in principle, i think that there are prospects for such developments in ukraine. ukraine is an aviation country and we have a lot of experience and a lot of competence in this regard. i think that under the condition of, let's say, political support, i think that in ukraine there may be complexes of the bayraktar type or even more, but i wanted to remind you about the s300 complex, which the kb is better , but i almost produced it, i myself saw a sample of it, but in this case i want to return what mr. oleksandr, our previous speaker, said about the production of weapons in it is dangerous for ukraine, but we know the precedent that the office of the ukrspectsizm company that produced the pd-2 drone was actually fired upon in kyiv, well, this drone was actually talked about in the collegium, and we know

that a lot of companies are now thinking about relocating foreign companies ukrspecistem has already moved its plant for the production of shock drones ukrainian drones to poland well, if we compare, for example, take the market of shock drones yes, we are constantly talking about the baryakhtar . we have seen a lot of footage of the work of the american military in afghanistan and its use. what is your attitude to the comparison of , for example, the bayraktar and the ripper? can they be compared at all? and what is the line of these strike drones exist in the world because we constantly say byraktar byraktar children are already called byraktar, but what else is on the market well, in short

, baraktar and ripper are let's put it this way. products of a slightly different class, at least the wingspan and take-off weight are different at times it's it and that decision and something else - these are percussion complexes, but we have to talk about the fact that, after all, it's a ripper - it's a product. let's just say that it's an adult, which was created many years ago, has already passed some there are actually a lot of tests in combat conditions years ago and there were some moments when there were some solutions, you know, children's diseases, you can't say that bayraktar has such problems , but in principle, for example, in my opinion , these two solutions differ in that that the ripper is controlled via a satellite communication channel a br after all, it is an ordinary terrestrial radio line and

therefore the radius of action and the tactics of use are significantly different sometimes allows the reaper allows him to take on board is quite difficult the armament is heavy missiles and a large number, if i am not mistaken, up to eight missiles can be carried on him, while the character is a bit smaller. well, for example, again, if i am not mistaken, the wingspan has a hectare somewhere around 12 m the ripper there is 20 or so meters, and the take-off weight would be 600 kg to me, or if i'm not mistaken, and the ripper is many times more, that is , almost 400 or something like that, so in principle, this allows you to place such equipment as satellites on the ripper antennas and provide declaration and

to provide control via a satellite channel which is almost impossible to suppress in ground-based means of radio-electronic warfare, this again creates some advantages, but it must be said that any solutions have their place on the battlefield, and for the baraktar and for the ripper and for the smaller class of products for example, such as we produce, that is, fury unmanned aviation complexes that adjust artillery fire in a radius of up to 50 km and cover a certain range of tasks, and there is also room for smaller drones of the copter type for reconnaissance that is, today the war has shown that any, even as we can see, it is even civilian solutions , they are applied and, in the hands of skillful hands, in principle, bring great benefit to our army. and here i wanted to remind you about the russian regression, but literally yesterday, a journalist told me an amazing thing, which

turns out to be ukrainian mariupol is being bombarded with s-300 missiles. that is, we are already shelling mykolaiv with 300 missiles. and this is impressive because the s300 missiles are actually air defense missiles, that is, they work against aviation, that is, the rashists, well the sanctions really work and have reached the point where they pull out the very expensive control unit and direct it to the planes and insert a simple gps sensor that is programmed for some purpose and actually uses this crap. sorry, they are shelling our residential buildings while the world is developing the sky is developing drones and trying to create the latest technologies russia, on the contrary, from systems against is moving towards responsibility when, unfortunately, there are such troubles in the family when you know how curses are said to have been

led by an alcoholic grief in the family so when he runs to the pawn shop, giving away the last tv set and so on, russia is fighting on this principle. so, the last circle is already understood in particular. let's somehow thank our speaker for the conversation and we will finalize. artem vyunik was in touch with us, the manufacturer of drones, the company atlavia well , we wish success to our manufacturers of any weapons of any kind - it is for them the future development of the economy of ukraine and the opportunity not only to defeat the enemy, but also to earn money for the country after i looked about turkish weapons about the fact that they are now trying to become the leader of geopolitics and are producing, well, the newest, most powerful, what is the value of only a missile that can destroy the black sea fleet, that is, erdogan. you can just press a button and it means the black sea fleet without getting up from the sofa, and they say that after mykolaiv they are shelling with the s-300 complex, well, the sky and the earth, when some take off, others fall and even try to fight

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before we launch, we will win that you are not news, together we are strong 1+1 the project guard is back on the air with you and in this part of the program we talk about russian fakes and we make this column together with the center for countering disinformation at the nsdc and we traditionally have andriy shapovalov as a guest the head of this center good evening, colleagues, our past broadcast literally blew up the network. and the story about the refutation of the russian fake about the fact that the occupiers captured something there, something there, e. already a million and 200,000 views. and now there may be more. and i suspect that this broadcast will be no less explosive. well, i will tell you that it is very interesting. we

did not prepare for this, but literally . the center was forced to re-e counterattack and e-e branched out to talk about where the lies are, what the russians are manipulating, where it seems from the first time it did not reach them, not from the second, from the third, and even from the fourth, this is such a technology is a technology many repetitions when they repeat the same thing , hoping that someone didn't hear, someone didn't see, someone didn't understand that well, and in principle, why do what is basically a good fake? this time they are used in order to, well, launch uh, the fake is that russia allegedly captured uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh , two 155 mm installations and

howitzers caesar provided by france, and now the russians have uh, uh, such weapons in their arsenal and uh, don't give me more ukraine has weapons because they don't know how to use them and everything will be taken away from them by the terrible evil russians and oh-oh-oh don't do that anymore well, that's all this is complete nonsense, this nonsense is being dispersed by completely pseudo experts and we also talked a lot about this, and it's supposedly eh scientists allegedly, maybe they really are teachings, but they are such russian canned food, according to which we already have, in principle, an evidence base, uh, there are several dozen , if not hundreds of such experts, uh, they are divided into three parts, they are divided into those who openly support russia and those who sympathize yes and those who condemn but not everything is so clear-cut, i.e. wait, guys,

good hands, let's just put together a puzzle, what happened, uh, russia is throwing out a fake so that they were able to take over french installations, they are being beaten in the mouth, friends say, you are lying, they, having received the breed , again say that we took over the installations. by the way, i read this material even on the original source some bloggers write that these installations are now being studied at such an enterprise as the ural carriage plant, well, for the sake of credibility, it’s okay if they are being researched at the ural carriage plant so what to do with the messages of the russians themselves that this plant is suspending its work and from there, well, if they were to reduce people, then it turns out, well, the mythical russians took over the installations and brought them to the non-working plant, well, that is, let’s stop when we started to study, the police stopped, that is, as far as you understand even the factor that

andriyu voiced one and a half million views is not a million, 200,000 eh, we are winding up to watch but but wait after today, i think there will definitely be a fragment, one thing is that we are not just gathered here you know, they gave the jury to the liars that they are inventing something about ukraine, the refutation of these stories is a very painful story, but it is really painful , and the fact that not even a week has passed, how are they spreading it again, they are not talking about the fact that it is a very painful story, i apologize for the tautology a very, very painful story, but let 's talk about something more complicated, complex manipulations carried out by the russians, it's a blatant forgery of documents, it's a very important story, because it's one thing to read a post in telegram, and with another thing is when they show you some document, signed by the ministry of defense of ukraine

or the head of some department, where they write about well, i don’t know what, well, about ukraine renouncing its territories, and what kind of documents do they affect some citizens who are not critical of this and believe what is written, here is how this tool works and how actively the russians use it, they use it actively, and they work depending on the quality of the prepared documents, which i brought with me maps if necessary, i will show you that there is a fake document, these are fake documents that the russians are distributing, for example, the ministry of education and science allegedly uh issues an order to conduct uh with uh to provide a description of each school graduate regarding his military patriotic attitude, not signature by signature well, there is a digital signature, er, today there is a digital document management and, in principle, a

qr-code. and this is actually a signature, and if you think critically, you can indicate it. please show us this is the third illustration of ours there probably there is because he is so widespread, he is such a claim, in fact, this is completely untrue, that is, take his original number, take a bribe, take a qr-code , and after that, replace it with the middle of it, if it works, they work well. russian disinformers, of course. and what do they do? well, they are trying to at least create an illusion that something is similar to the truth, do you know why? because it is the only ministry, the ministry of education, which word of minister is always capitalized , even after the word deputy, and here deputy is capitalized and minister is capitalized, but if on the qr-code, you will get to a completely different document

that exists in the database and it is clear that this cannot be the case, but it is more or less a decent forgery . i.e. sincerely, the deputy minister, this is taken, and then there are the photos, the purpose, then this is the document, so the viewer read this online . front to fight and how is it it spreads through what channels does it appear, well , it seems to have appeared on some dnr channel, about the fact that treason is a traitor, and so on and so forth

. things, we made a very interesting conclusion about telegram channels, and that, in principle, no one reposts them, that is, the huge network that has been created, they repost each other in a circle, and thank god it all stops in our space. the information bubble was created and, most likely, it relies on opana. there was also a story about high-ranking ukrainian men who are abroad on the territory of ukraine. our directors showed about the mobilization of ukrainians from poland, yes, comment on it,

you say, where is it printed? yes, i have it, of course, we saw it, we did about it, but posters post here he is and this is actually a screenshot from our telegram channel i recommend to subscribe subscribe who is not subscribed a-a in telegram in viber subscribe because it is important to receive fast information it is not about a bubble anymore but about a real site maybe here you see it is completely verified information, because we carefully check it and already during these months of work we have made a fairly large database, we are just friends, here are urgent men with ukrainian citizenship of draft age to send to make censuses to send back to ukraine and with the caesars, no-no-no, this is exactly what we can do to protect it all, which is not for him with a salad. and if only with a caesar salad. well, so that supposedly all men who left for poland were urgently

returned and mobilized. and about this information us colleagues from poland reported that they first saw it. either it is in polish or polish, and it was more widely distributed in the polish public. it is possible to understand. but are you actively monitoring where this launch is coming from, for example , from which territory, when, for example, the attack takes place? in the territory of ukraine, is it possible that it is some kind of agency in poland, because in poland, too, is there a

russian distribution logic? track thanks to the corresponding software, and by certain words, by certain links, you can find it, and in principle, we can see the original source of each of them, well, now, it is most likely the first on the first instead of telegram channels, that is, they appear because they are anonymous telegram channels, uh, which you kept track of in the center, how many telegram channels are subscribed to by the analysts of your center , uh, i will tell you a terrible story, when the war started, well, some of the analysts are of course for security purposes, well, they left kyiv and were then there were checks everywhere, especially the men there, and when the ukrainian soldiers took the phone from our analyst to check the anti-terrorist system, they

just, well, they were all there. well, when they saw the number of subscriptions, what was he signed up for, which channels did they call, i don’t know, they turned him on there well, with a weapon, he says, wait guys, here's my id. well, i have it at the cash register. it's my job, it's my job, yes, it was funny, but he says later. and after that, he was taken away. by the way, he sat there for several hours until someone great commander i say that you sit well you do and you go to work we know everything about you go read on telegram then you need to spread as much information as possible in connection with the holding of the nato summit in madrid about kremenchug what is interesting here is that it is written here that the chief editors of mass media are participants of the national information defense