eh harsh statements eh, they are the same regarding the possibility of using force against eh taiwan in the event of the declaration of independence, so i think that if we divide these hours into percentages, we will see that 99% will wake up between them about global issues, issues of the pacific ocean, issues of regional security, but there is one percent in relation to russia, there is ukraine, which anyway they said for a long time that there are some points of contact , they talked for 5 hours, that is, on different topics. they are trying to find understanding, and it seems to me that it is already ok, vitaly, let's listen to putin's quote, which he said during a meeting, it seems , on thursday, during a meeting with representatives of parliamentary factions, and then i will ask you a question. today, we hear that they want

to win on the battlefield . have already heard a lot that the west wants to fight with them to the last ukrainian, this is a tragedy for the ukrainian people, well, it seems that everything is going to this , but everyone should know that we are serious in a big way. so far , we have not started anything. well, what is this probably not a threat to ukraine when he says that we did not start anything, we already know it well, how they started and how it ended, but in this way he tries to play on the domestic on the domestic consumer, yes well, of course, because there is a certain miro of disappointment in the arrest of military drivers in ukraine you do, they come and it becomes difficult to hide even when or why the mobilization is on the periphery in small towns, but still it is more and more penetrating, the video is becoming more and

more it is becoming available er, even medium a fragment of the political and administrative elite of the russian federation asks the question and what is next, how to build personal strategies, it begins to exert a certain pressure not only on the middle class , but on, let's say, the average russian, and the end of some imminent end of some clear victory, the cream does not articulate therefore this frown with putin has a piece of paper with these statements that they have n't started anything yet, they are primarily aimed at the domestic consumer, that putin still has some weapons возмездие with which he will strike eh and decided the issue in his favor that russia does not seem to know how to push, they will achieve their goals set for the

so-called special military operations, what is the name of the war, so it is obvious that the consumer is in the internal, because these statements, except for sarcasm, they do not even receive any other reaction in the west in old europe, which is sensitive enough to any changes in russian policy, well , even there in the publications that call us to negotiations, even there these you were evaluated well, as a bravado, these publications are also not supported by anything they wrote on their data, the development of er, where it is indicated about er, the shutdown of their troops, about the lack of rotation, about the delay in payments, about the delay, er, the arrival of new, er, fresh forces, new equipment . well, and things like that. so, we can say that

yes this is an internal political position. the russians have elections ahead of them, they are afraid of the appearance of any alternative. putin has a flag to broadcast something to his voters. his political party has to, well, democracy is a propaganda machine that has to wind up. its citizens in order to be less and less dissatisfied because wherever they arise, accordingly, there will be repressions, and they are already talking about a decrease in the active support of sociology, they fix fear at the level of 80% of the so-called support for putin, but in fact, when we talk about the deep research, even russian sociologists who are dependent on the russian government are already saying that there is fatigue from this war, that is why such statements by putin are

usually aimed at the internal consumer in support of the deep deep people of the so-called look at the beginning of the war well, a month after the beginning of the russian war, and very often in our country, in various telegram channels, they wrote about the fact that well, someone wrote that according to intelligence data, someone wrote simply that they know about palace coups that may be in the kremlin now how much i understand that this topic is very quiet now, i don’t talk about it, but this week the french publication figaro wrote that putin multiplies otaki statements that we have heard recently in order to keep the economic elite - this is what you said to the domestic consumer but is that all after all, is he still afraid of these for and therefore multiplying such statements, is he still afraid of such palace coups, the possibility of such palace coups , i think that they will be reduced to a minimum, because putin's contacts, well, the environment is also limited,

first of all, and secondly, the elite that is close to him, that is, the ruling the group is dependent on him and dependent on actually speaking, er, she connects her future with him without putin, they don't have an obvious future, well , this is a small group, they are not players, they are more figures of his entourage, but i would completely not i would drop the idea for this coup when there are certain certain circumstances, but what this password will do is not the laurels and the surrounding puppets, well, this is obvious, that is, if someone does not play the risk for their own political

survival in the new in the new reality in russia, it will clearly not hm speaker, do it the speaker or some characters from fake political parties , leaders of the so-called faction of the state well, but you do not rule out that such a thing can happen, i do not rule it out and actually, each of these players from these towers he is trying as much as possible to strengthen himself, to feed his vertical, to create his own loyal to himself personal military issue or to gain control over one or another security forces, contradictions between them exist and are not going anywhere, the struggle takes place at the level of sufficiently harsh sweeps. each of them forms an information media point , so say that this there is a complete monolith around and there is no one there except putin - this is not what i would say interest groups compete with each other and the more putin tightens the screws, the more there will be more competition between these groups of influence, so a coup is possible, but it needs this window

of opportunity when the government will obviously show its weakness. and it is possible there in the medium term. god forbid, god forbid, we are really waiting for the same thing to happen. thank you, mr. vitaly, for participating in today's program, they said gave answers to the questions that were a little unclear for me and for our viewers, i will remind you that it was vitaly kulyk, the director of the center for the study of civil society problems, but on skype already waiting to join me is my second guest for today, anton kuchukhid, a political scientist among the people. i congratulate you, mr. anton. i congratulate you and thank you for joining me. i also thank you for a long time. mr. anton, tell me, please, let's start with the topic hmm, maybe the number one thing in international life that is not related to

ukraine, but why is it related to ukraine, is the resignation of the prime minister of great britain, boris johnson what will change for ukraine after his resignation a-a i think that nothing will change in a strategic sense, there is an official foreign policy strategy of great britain adopted until 2030 where the russian federation is considered a threat to the security of great britain and also to democracy in the world if in our country nato as an alliance only at the end of june 22 recognized the russian federation as the main threat, then britain has been discussing this strategy in public since 2016 accordingly, since 2016, she understood what

risks the russian federation carries, their policy, their vision of the international agenda for the event and for the partners of the event, therefore, i think that support will not decrease, both from a strategic point of view and from the point of view of the political consensus of the elites within great britain, the provision of weapons and full support to ukraine is supported by the labor party, although it is opposed to the conservative party, today one is less active 24 in february, the leader of this party in the british parliament clearly stated about full support for ukraine with concrete actions, and not just as you know, he expressed excitement or something else, he clearly said

that it is necessary to support weapons economically and humanitarianly, that is, in addition to strategic things, there is also a political consensus the elite of great britain a-a third. well, if you know how to do fortune-telling in the field of conspiracy theory, then there are, let's say, several top figures who claim to be able to take office after mr. johnson the leader of the conservative party and then the prime minister, and among these surnames there were two surnames that actually created a system of pro-ukrainian support for mr. johnson - they are the minister of defense pangoles and the minister of foreign affairs mrs. according to the data, he had the greatest support from the conservatives in order to

take the position of future prime minister, but he refused. and today we received information that it was mrs. tras who publicly and officially announced that she would apply for the position of prime minister . minister and one of her tasks sets before himself the defeat of putin in ukraine and the economic recovery of great britain, therefore, from all sides, we will not look at the strategic level, the level of unity of the political elites in britain, potential candidates for the successor of mr. johnson, they show that the support will not change, that is why, in principle, the ministry of foreign affairs and the ukrainian authorities reacted quite correctly to the political processes that took place in great britain

last week, and we see that really uh let's say this political struggle, which will soon be resolved precisely in britain for the position of prime minister, ukrainian topics are not used there for some political - technological purposes. and absolutely unambiguous for a british politician. let me say a little more for our viewers. you already mentioned that today the minister of foreign affairs of great britain listras announced that she is ready to run for the post of prime minister trishka earlier about it, the trailer also said the minister of internal affairs, these are people from johnson's camp, but as far as i know, they are not very high in terms of ratings, that is, they do not have the highest chances of becoming prime minister, and therefore they will now have some kind

of competition between themselves to choose a single candidate present, but as far as i understand , the finance minister of great britain has the best chances, other sunak is a person not from johnson's camp, he generally criticized johnson constantly, that is, from what you said, even in the event that the prime minister of great britain becomes a ruler sunak for ukraine nothing changes, support for ukraine remains the same as it was under johnson , and that's because they have a strategy adopted at the state level, which clearly spells out the opposition of the russian federation, and it will be very difficult for the new prime minister to fight with geopolitical realities which exist in the world today or which appeared just after the large-scale invasion of the russian federation, he will have to explain for a very long time within the conservative party, in fact, the party that developed this

let's say the latest foreign policy strategy under global britain and this can shake his position unequivocally. especially since mr. sunaki is such an interesting personality. journalists investigated his ties with the russian federation rather than his family with russia by the federation of business areas, he clearly stated that there are no connections and he has no excuses for anything , so let's hope that his position will be maintained in the future. next, let's listen to one speech of lukashenka, one statement of lukashenka that he made the other day, then the question will be for you during the time when we became more active in the

work in the russian direction, sovereignty, independence is the sacred interest of the belarusian people, let's take a look at that in russia there are global interests eh, they also have eh in the corresponding views on the development of belarus and this is correct today, everything has already been understood what is belarus for russia russia for belarus in this regard we will also have to activate and preserve sovereignty independence, we must do as much as possible for cooperation in the economy, for our unity, for our unity. well, do everything so that no one could throw a stone at us, that we are not pushovers , this is a question of our relationship with russia. talks about sovereignty, we will not allow anyone to encroach on the sovereignty of belarus, belarusians with weapons will defend their own country if

it is necessary to defend their native land, and then on the other hand about the fact that russia has plans of its own for belarus, anton, how long will this person be able to play on two fronts? well, he is already playing on one front, that is, the window of opportunity for him to establish a dialogue with the west has ended after the territory of belarus was used for a large-scale invasion against our country, and i will remind that according to the resolution of the un general assembly regarding the definition of exactly the same level of aggression or mm aggression as an international legal abbreviated there, including there is such and such a provision that if even you if you simply give territory to a party that attacks

another state, then you are, let's say, a partner in carrying out this aggression. that's why the window of opportunity has closed for him, he is completely in the favor of the russian federation . to the belarusians in what sense ? remember lukashenka 3-4 years ago, 5 years ago when he said that there would be no russian bases on the territory of belarus, that they would be sovereign there and would independently implement their defense politics and all the factors showed that he really did not want the basing of the russian military on his territory, because he understood how it ended in georgia, ukraine, and so on, and now the other day in the winter there was information that he

gave an entire airfield to the needs of the needs of the russian aviation, which strikes on the territory of ukraine , therefore all its maneuverability has ended and it will be very difficult for it to get out of this impasse and the defeat of russia will be its defeat, i really want it to happen as soon as possible anton, the italian newspaper courier dellassere wrote a few days ago, in fact yesterday, that germany may be preparing to violate some well, maybe not a violation, but a circumvention of some sanctions in order to restore the pumping of gas along the northern stream , and here is also information that canada is returning the turbine for europe is tired, you can say that. no, europe is not tired. you have to understand that the lobbyists of the russian

giants of the oligarchs of the kremlin. they work and you have to understand that if we had not beaten the federation in different directions. they are trying to respond to that, one way or another, similar topics will appear in the mass media , but this does not mean that ukraine is in the same direction, in contrast to the 14th year and in contrast to in the 8th year, when russia was there, the russian aggression against georgia, then against ukraine , in the 22nd year, the west realized that if, god forbid, something happens to ukraine, then they will follow, and uh, taking this into account, we received a joint position of gseven on the indefinite support of ukraine by all directions in the war actually against the russian federation, so i think that the reference point is exactly the

position of gsaven and which we recently received the rest of the speculations of throwing in and so on. this means two things, firstly that russian lobbyists and who can have a completely intelligent image there or be foreigners and so on they continue their work, they don't stop it, and they need to be countered and , well, let's say that it's normal, and it's a normal state of affairs for the political struggle that 's happening today. by the russian federation and let's take into account the fact that the way we look at germany, the russian federation has been building its lobbying tools and company mechanisms for 20 years in this country directly, and that's why they launch them in every way in all

directions, mr. anton joe biden is planning a trip to the middle east, in particular, he will go to saudi arabia and there he plans to have a friendly talk with the leadership of this country in order to find allies. do you think he has something to bribe audits now considering well, the relations between the neighboring states of america and saudi arabia are quite difficult, especially after the presidency of donald trump. well, i think that there are always many topics in these two states that have, on the one hand, strategic interests in the middle east region. well, in terms of what it can be this is military contracts, this is oil policy and politics within the framework of, let's say, the formation of a global global oil agenda and

regional issues, it is clear that positions differ somewhere, but in general, i think that they will to talk about how to put pressure, including on the russian federation, how to change the energy market so that it becomes safer just for the event a-a well, we will see the results of this visit over time because well, according to the classics, with- right after the visit, there are general statements, and then we see there either specific contracts or, let’s say specific statements, which reveal the full breadth of these negotiations, that is, the common interest of these two states is great, and there are opportunities and maneuverability, that is, they can agree on what you you consider these two countries allies in a possible well, not in a fight, but in a possible

confrontation with russia. and i think that they are obviously allies, and it is clear that the displacement of russian oil is in favor of the oil interests of saudi arabia, and in the background there may be certain agreements about this, well, god forbid, let's come back closer to us to the territory that is temporarily occupied in donbas valentina matvienko, unfortunately, a person who was born in ukrainian shepetivka and now there is so much bad speaks and does about ukraine on july 7, she said that the council of federations is ready to consider the submission of the so -called lpr and dnr to join russia, but they already started this topic a little earlier, a few months ago, then somehow this topic stalled, can you somehow comment on why this topic

is now again -e are launched and not just in the news, but the head of the upper house of the russian parliament talks about it, even they use this topic primarily for electoral reasons in order not to lose the support of the so-called this is a military operation, first of all, and secondly, they use this topic in order to show the successes they are achieving in the benches, in our territory, that's why they periodically either talk about the referendum or the review the question of the acceptance of these territories into its composition and so on and so on, let's say this is part of the media strategy so that the population of the russian federation does not learn

the real truth about the real losses, both financial and human and technical and so further therefore for this purely political technology ah and there is such a third moment they are trying to show that the west hmm look at your sanctions your arms supplies to ukraine have no effect on anything we are looking for 20 seconds of lines of behavior but accept them they will not be true they are not just saying i think they they will make such a political decision, they can make it, and when they elect it, they will consider that now is the peak of the fall, now is the time to somehow throw in a successful story. thank you, mr. anton, i am very sorry for the lack of time, i have to say goodbye to you, thank you very much for your professional opinions on this and your comments, i will remind you, uh, they let me contact anton kochuhid, a

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