by phone and so on, although all this, well, at the very least, it should be foreseen so that at least families are not in a state of uncertainty regarding additional mechanisms, so, uh, i, in general, as a lawyer , would like to ask again. do you know what additional mechanisms are available today ? the main mechanism for negotiations and, accordingly, how to think about additional ones if we do not know what the main mechanism is. i agree with the fact that the negotiation process regarding the liberation, including the azov people, should not take place publicly, these are difficult agreements and i i don't think that in this case the whole society should know this. but nevertheless, at least some mechanism should be understood so that we can foresee additional mechanisms with you, because otherwise we can't do anything. well, we don't just sometimes

feel like we're not enough we include , for example, the tribune of the organization of the united nations , we understand that this is how the century-old meeting took place in lugano and so on . there are few effective mechanisms, but they are public. and the involvement of the international community, for example, in such things is also extremely necessary, and you understand here, i would just like to draw attention to a few things . hear these or other names and so on, remember the stories that we have already experienced since the 14th year, relatively speaking

, er, forgive me for this comparison, but the price of such a er, captive increases many times and accordingly, if the international community is involved loudly, this means that for this person, we should demand the release of larger people from the other side, but there was one very successful case, from the 14th year, in my memory, which was one, but it seems to me that we we hardly use such levers of influence. this was the case of the release of akhtem shtytos and imiomirov when they were released during the negotiations for three, conditionally speaking, negotiations between ukraine and the russian federation. perdogan intervened then. i don’t know which there were agreements, i know only rumors about this

. but nevertheless, there were some agreements between him and the president of the russian federation. and after that, akhtem shytos and elmiomirov were released, they were transported to istanbul, and only from there they came to the territory of ukraine maybe this is also one of the options that we can use in order for the international community to help us quietly not loudly not publicly not eh let's put it this way without counting points and not increasing our rates but maybe they have reasons to agree with eh by the president of the russian federation in such a way that as soon as possible the guys and, accordingly, as a result of such a release, it is possible that our guys will end up in the territory of, i don’t know, germany, france and the united states, and then he will return to ukraine, maybe, maybe, i can’t help but remember that

the defenders of mariupol and azovstal themselves offered an example extraction as a variant of such a military er military plan er evacuation yes when on the territory of a third party and staying there until the end of all hostilities but no turkey no the russian federation then somehow did not respond to this proposal, although turkey was supposedly ready to provide it with vessels in case of which in your opinion, why did this happen? perhaps there is really too much noise around this story and it would be important to work it out less publicly. less public simply won't work, but the fact that in this case there is too much information is also true uh, it slightly reduces the possibilities of those agreements uh, maybe it's the best for the patient, for the boys, i don't know yet

uh, we don't see the result, that's why i think that there is too much noise around this story. but if we talk about the extract that our guys then offered, then let's agree with you that in any case, there should be an agreement, including with the russian federation. that is, someone must agree with the russian federation that it will not object to such a process. who can do this today? it seems to me that the circle of these leaders who can enter into a direct dialogue with vladimir putin is very limited and accordingly, this very limited circle of people must have some arguments, different uh, believe me, there can be very different arguments in order to convince vladimir putin to go to such a process but i think that until now it is still not a lost opportunity, well , taking into account that

regular talks are held with putin, er, supposedly on the topic of the export of ukrainian grain to a greater extent from our ports. i would like to hope that the turkish side does not forget and remind russia of the need to release military personnel ukrainian prisoners are now in russian captivity. valeria, there are a few more questions that i would really like to discuss with you. during the war, our ombudsman changed. lyudmila denisova performed her duties until the end of her term of office. after all, in the conditions of the war, we also have a kind of luft-pause when there is no ombudsman at all, and in my opinion this is not quite a normal situation, now there is a new ombudsman - he is dmytro lubinets and it is supposed to be his job is beginning to recover, as you can see, as a person who held a relevant position, such personnel rotations

during the active conduct of hostilities, you know , here we talked about hostilities, i did not discuss the military time that exists today in our country, i discussed the problems that arise in connection with the application of the constitution in relation to an independent institution and uh, in this case, let's agree uh well, it's hard to accuse me of being lyudmila denisova's friend. behave and so on, but let's agree with you that a special law was voted specifically for future votes regarding the removal of the ombudsman, which allowed parliamentarians to do this during martial law, and accordingly, using

the same newly adopted law, lyudmila denisova was removed prematurely, as for me, putting a huge question of independence institution of the ombudsman, it was quite difficult for me in the conditions of 13-14-15 years to win the status a for our tutsia , that is, the highest status of trust from the un organizations of a truly independent institution, and what they did later by dismissing lyudmila denisova in an unconstitutional way is, well, in my opinion, it was wrong because it was a violation of our international obligations to have an independent boatswain and a violation of the national constitution. then it was really, thank god, not long the time when we had an undercover ombudsman, but then, apparently, i was already appointed on my conviction, the appointment of dmytro

lubenets is a very positive step, considering that he was the manager, he was the head of he knows the problems of the parliamentary committee on human rights, this committee has a huge, long , unspeakable name precisely because the competence of this committee extends to a huge number of issues, this is human rights as such, this is also human rights in the occupied territories, in the temporarily annexed territory of crimea, and so on. that is, it is huge the number of issues and which he dealt with. as the chairman of the committee and as for me in the conditions of war. it was the best choice that parliamentarians could make. the main thing now is to restore the independence of this institution, but on the other hand, ms. valeriia is already the second ombudsman in a row from political circles, well , that is, they are actually people's deputies, because people who were people's deputies, who agree with you, it is true, but nevertheless, taking into account that the

head of the human rights committee is the greatest friend and associate of the ombudsman, because it is the committee on human rights that first listens to the report of the ombudsman on the situation with human rights in ukraine every year. understands, knows, who has seen the work of om on the previous one, who understands what needs to be done in the future and knows the issues of human rights. in my opinion, this is the best choice out of those that could be in conditions when we do not have legislation that would establish the need to hold an open competition and so on. well mrs. valeria, we understand that the story about the dismissal of denisova is not only about procedures. it was a huge gate scandal for the whole world, and we understand that a lot

of international institutions and states used the information she made public, i do not have the opportunity to check what was true and what was not true, but she actually put her seal on the information that came from her and as from the relevant representative of the state. so, it is about the damage caused by this scandal to our positions and on the other hand, every day of our defense, because we are talking about international courts and various additional institutions that will consider russian crimes, so we understand if there is a certain skepticism or certain suspicions or objections or not the final trust accordingly generates, so to speak, a precedent that is not completely good for us, but beneficial for the russians, yes, it is true. it is a huge mistake

on the part of the ombudsman to publish data that she cannot later confirm, but the russian public can rather take advantage of this, but not the international courts, because believe me, i have spent a large number of years dealing with international courts and i can tell you that no international institution will use just words as proof the statement submitted by the state that applies for protection to the international judicial institution must be confirmed, and here in this case there will be skepticism or not, it does not really matter if evidence is provided. and i hope that the state will be able to provide evidence, and accordingly, the decision of the international institution will be in our favor therefore, as far as is known, ukrainian law enforcement agencies are already investigating a large number of those cases

voiced by lyudmila denisova, according to various information, many of them really have reasons let's get real ms. valeriya, we still have a few minutes and i can't help but ask a topic that seems to me to be very painful right now, a large number of citizens are in the territories where hostilities are actively taking place and which in the future will become the temporarily occupied territories of severodonetsk lysychansk well, i just take as an example a large number of citizens decide to stay there for various reasons, we do not discuss these reasons very often these citizens adults make minors hostage to their decision children, because we still have a family code. well, as we can see, it now prevails over the norms of constitutions and legal rights of every person for my safety and health, and ms. valeriya, is it possible to develop a mechanism in our country, i won't say

forced, but necessarily evacuation from such hot spots so that it corresponds to the norms of international law, so that human rights defenders, let's say, cannot accuse us of violating these norms, and also so that we do not resemble the russian federation, which forcibly deports our citizens through filtering points from their permanent place of residence i do not know any examples of legislation that would oblige a person to leave his home and move to another place by the state's decision, especially considering that let's agree, the state does not guarantee a roof over his head for a long time, the state does not guarantee it, and we saw it from 14- by the way , the person will have not only a place of residence but also a place of work. yes, there are certain benefits for displaced

persons that relate to the arrangement of children in school kindergartens and so on, but this is not enough, so here i would not talk about forced evacuation, i would talk about about the evacuation conditions, that is, to make it so that the state could really have the opportunity to evacuate older people with the help of ambulances, that it should be done quickly, that it should be done qualitatively, and so on, that it should be done in advance before all the problems began in order not to repeat any whose irpin and so on and in addition to the rest i would say that the state needs to create such conditions in legislation and in reality that would not scare people and, accordingly, they would independently choose safety for their children and not stay in temporarily occupied territories, and here we are again with you, let's go back. we have

been talking about internally displaced persons since 14, and we know that in 14 we had a wave of internally displaced people of about a million people, but then some of them returned to the occupied territory precisely because the state did not do anything to support them, the payments that began to run out, there was no roof over the head, there was no place to work, and accordingly, after that, people began to return to the occupied territory, therefore, i would say that the law should stipulate that a citizen is not obliged to evacuate if the state says so, and it is the state's duty to create such conditions so that a person is not afraid to evacuate, then there will be no such problems . from 12 to 18 years, the honored lawyer of ukraine worked on the live broadcast of the informational and analytical marathon of the

espresso tv channel 17th hour 46 minutes antin burkovskii my name is part of yatsk and let's have a little let's get distracted and talk about innovations for a certain category of citizens of our country, who are uh, palyas. so, from today in ukraine, new anti-tobacco restrictions on the size of public places , now you can not use not only ordinary cigarettes, but also electronic cigarettes, aikos and hookahs. how did the first day go? bans, our correspondents tell us, we are watching, new anti-tuna legislation has come into force in ukraine, as of today, changes to the 13th article of the law on prevention and reduction of tobacco use come into force products and their harmful effects on the health of the population, these changes in particular limit the sale of smoking and the use of electronic cigarettes and accompanying products in public places .

in our legislation, which consisted in the fact that this is very progressive ukrainian legislation ancient-new, unfortunately, did not extend to various types of electronic devices, so-called heating devices, electronic cigarettes, and accordingly was not prohibited there were no prohibitions on their use in public places , and there were no restrictions on their advertising that they must contain information about possible harm to the health of those people who use electronic devices, restrictions on the sale to minors of new electronic cigarette products, devices for heating tobacco liquids to electronic cigarettes, and most importantly, this article regulates an exhaustive list of places where smoking, smoking and the use of electronic cigarettes and heating devices are prohibited in ukraine from now on, tobacco is prohibited in all premises of institutions, enterprises and organizations of any form of ownership, in the premises of cafes and restaurants, in

the premises of state authorities and local councils, in the premises of cultural objects, in hotels, hostels, at railway stations and stations, in the premises of airports, except for those specially designated for this purpose places at public transport stops on playgrounds in elevators and payphones in common areas of residential buildings in underpasses in public transport, including taxis as for educational, medical and sports physical education institutions, the use of electronic cigarettes is prohibited not only in the premises, but also on the territory of these institutions . the new rules will have the greatest impact on various bars and restaurants, which in recent years have been quite loyal to consumers of electronic cigarettes in the premises of restaurants farms are not allowed any smoking rooms any separate halls they are now a violation if you smoke there but it is allowed on summer playgrounds if these playgrounds are not of some kind

premises, those who do not comply with the new rules will pay fines for restaurant establishments - this is uah 3,000 for the first violation and uah 15,000 for each subsequent violation during the year, for all others uah 1,000 for the first time and 10,000 in the future, but for now the enterprises will not be fined, they say in the state the service for food safety and consumer protection controls and is responsible for violations of the ban in the roots. in these places, the legislator will introduce only from july 11, 23, that is, if the changes to the law on the law on the harmfulness of the roots, they are introduced in stages, the first is introduced with an expanding transfer of places where the roots are, and then sometime next year, control and inspections will be carried

out . by the international institute of sociology, such measures have a high level of support even among smokers themselves iryna ostrovska oleg polymer espresso ot this is the story and we are waiting. what will we finally be forbidden to do in this life, well, we will find out now dmytro kupyri, the executive director of the ogo center for public representation of life glory to ukraine p dmytro glory to the heroes you are satisfied with the implementation of these novelizations we believe that this will save more than one and not even 1,000 lives in ukraine, perhaps we should be more active regarding the ban and extremely harmful products, in particular

, we are talking about mayonnaise, in particular, we are talking about french fries , we understand what the situation is with such things i mean, you took a high note, of course , which concerns the restriction of citizens' rights, and accordingly, let's help our citizens in a comprehensive manner, in particular, with regard to such other additional things, and i want to tell you that the legislator is also working in this direction. the ministry of health has introduced a permissible level. trans fatty acids in food products and the corresponding law was adopted in the first reading and i can check . but it seems to me that they are already close to the second reading of the decision on what trans fatty acids are and how they are reduced content to less than 2%, as it is in the european community and in countries that protect the health of their consumers, and our legislator regarding the protection of

compensation for secondary tobacco and nicotine emissions . with cigarettes, smoking is prohibited in the premises of devices for heating the wall, well, in ukraine, such devices are presented under the brands e, for example, e iqos or klo, this is done exclusively for one reason, for the reason that the emissions of these e-e tobacco products are also toxic and harmful to everyone around and it is obvious that it is in the premises that there is the greatest risk of inhaling these toxic emissions, because no matter how unconditioned or ventilated they still accumulate and harm all visitors. imagine how it is when a person works in an office in an office and behind 2 m from it and an employee can sit, which is absolutely not an

unpleasant story for a person who is really allergic to smoke, but we understand that we are not protected from the same emissions, for example, from the soviet automobile industry, you can imagine how much you throw such average zhiguli on the gas station and that and this is not a joke, we understand heavy metals that are released into the air and so on and so on that is all i am talking about what we understand about complexity here is that well, we have limited the rights of kosist and that second device eh how is it a device and glo, well, that’s one story, that is, but all the same, we understand that the consequences of other, so to speak, harmful emissions are no less, and even greater, well, you know, i think, after all, the car does not drive around the office. and this one is correct in 2 m he is sitting 2 meters away to say, look, i understand that freedom of every

person well, although it may not be entirely appropriate now, but here is such a stable phraseology every person's freedom ends there it already begins another person's freedom i support the right i support the work of other people i support the right of other people to try to be healthy and not be exposed to passive smoking there but on the other hand let 's talk about alternatives for those who have chosen for themselves to be smokers because i see a lot of restrictions really in the innovations but all i see in the sense of maintaining their right to choose. maybe you think it is a wrong way of life, but it is less, but somehow this is not enough. local self- government bodies should consider some options for creating special places for smoking, but we know that it is exporting, but we just spoke with antin in the people of lviv love to fine fines

for e-e parking, but they do not create any alternative, this is a story. by the way, about kyiv, about any big city, here is an alternative for those who have chosen for themselves, what do you think? the wrong way, please, it is very easy to go outside on our street, uhu. it is not forbidden to smoke in ukraine on the street, it is not forbidden to smoke one step away from the premises and a person is not a violator of the law, but not like that, mr. dmytrenko, in fact, the ukrainian police watched with their noses open when they got the chance so to speak, to knock out a couple of hryvnias, it was still so to speak in the previous political cycle well, but there were such cases, not ancient kyiv policemen, you know, in ukraine in public places when you are not prohibited there is a definition of public places where smoking is prohibited,

in particular this room on the street, you can smoke one step away from the room and the entire space belongs to smokers, the whole space belongs to smokers, they asked , at least, do not smoke in the room, that's about everything else , well, look at public transport, territories that belong to educational institutions. as i understand it, this is not only about different public transport stops, and you can’t smoke. there are 10 people on the bus, so don’t stand and get drunk with these ten people together with children if you didn't, i'm trying to understand what we're talking about and how we're talking. don't forget, smoking is prohibited on the street in ukraine. smokers are full. they don't have any smoking places. they don't have any restrictions. they asked for some kind of restrictions in the room, not because the smoke gathers and harms other people mr.

dmytro and in your opinion, what other social restrictions, so to speak, should be implemented? well, we understand that society cannot move as it wants. development, in particular, in relation to the roots, well, in particular, well, it is not prohibited in ukraine, in fact , any price products, electronic cigarettes, are sold there, alcohol in ukraine seems to be well, if i didn’t understand what else is needed there, that’s just it, maybe you know about some such things which should be implemented now in ukraine, well, with the aim, so to speak, of limiting the harmfulness of their action, in fact, in this sense, many international policies have been developed that would actually help

people to eliminate them in the foreseeable future, i would say so here i am already trying with factual and statistical information 84% of deaths that occur in ukraine are caused by diseases of non-infectious origin. in other words, we can say that these are behavioral diseases. 84 this is an impressive number, that is, people lived much longer and better . what are the key risk factors for these infectious diseases, smoking, drinking alcohol for a healthy diet and a sedentary lifestyle, that is, which very often does not depend on the person unfortunately, these four specifically depend on us from a person and these 4 are the biggest killers, others are also important unconditionally but again, experts

prioritize those alcohols and those diseases that cause death and here they all call the most priority ones that, unfortunately , kill the most ukraine thank you, mr. dmytro dmytro bought executive director th center of public representation of life at the same time live on the espresso tv channel. this is the topic we have ended up with. our colleagues continue to monitor the information and in the future in our it will definitely be analyzed on the air antin berkovskyi stay away from the espresso tv channel but now our colleagues from radio svoboda will work for you missile attack on the temporary yar what is happening in donetsk region zelenskyi ordered where to occupy the south of ukraine words how it will happen my