it is needed now, not only just war in itself, but also its idols, who are we, what are we, and so on, the main thing is this process, and it has been going on for the last few years very actively in many, let's say, intellectually developed circles, the answers to this question , who are ukrainians, why we are here and where are we going next , they have already started to appear, you understand. and the war , if it had just turned into a topic already in the depths of the people, the same people who well, let's say so often lived in the style of a shell, uh, this earthquake is terrible , tragic, i don't want to talk to these words but maybe it was beneficial because the war has not only negative choices yes, but also positive ones but the price of the question of the price of the question of this is how much our freedom costs and from our own well, i would say

stupidity even so, you know why art is important now people can think and why now why write books about the war, why shoot movies, why write music about it, well, now i write poetry, just like a novelist well, but now there is no time, well , that is, i understand, let's say in a normal position, it is necessary to write it , after all, so that the war ends, obviously, how do you say to think and poetry is an emotion, it is something that should excite people, it should give some kind of emotional messages abroad and in ukraine , there is always poetry well, just like music, it is also written from poetry but why is it important why art is important, after all, here is yosyp starin, when in moscow, when the german troops were stationed near moscow , he summoned from tashkent the heads of the film studio, you are coming to stalin, it means, well , scared, well, well, to stalin. this is usually the case. when they are summoned, not much good can be expected, and he he says you will shoot a film about the war about the

defense of moscow and they gather operators there then the film was uh for a minute. that is, you shoot for a minute and it is also not filmed there on the front line, that means in tanks and planes and they make a film about the defense of moscow and the film comes out very emotional, it shows the power of soviet weapons and, so to speak , gives people some hope that it turns out that we germans can kill it, leading me to the point that stalin understood well, in principle, i am people who have some kind of large-scale thinking, are they bad or good, they understand the power of art, and this film then, as they say, came to many and showed that war can be fought, our fighters can win at the front, we are beating the enemy, and this gives some message. and now it is very important, in these times, while the war is going on, to also film there are a lot of videos in telegram youtube right now. we are watching, but somehow we don’t have such a finished product. in your opinion, is it now time to make such products, as you see them and for

whom it should be aimed first of all, because well , i’m still saying times just videos - it's cool still after all, there should be a product, a written script , more or less, to show people what we have already gone through, because the battle for kyiv. maybe there will be another one, i don’t know, but the battle for kyiv, for chernihiv, for sumy, there is mariupol, surgical, that too has already happened and it can also be done uh, why is this not done in your opinion? and why is it necessary? well, you know absolutely, ravi. one of the functions of art is not the only one, but it is important. -e if in the future, the feeling of the future but i think that hollywood will do it for us. well, everything is very simple, uh, you understand, not everyone who went through the war is capable of making a good essay about the war, uh, in fact, it doesn't happen often at all, ah, win back and then refox it well. not everyone

can, but there are people who did not fight. well, directly indirectly, but they are trying to shoot, how to write , how to convey emotion, and they are trying to feel emotion, the necessary subtle emotion, circumstances in which they did not directly participate, but separate talents, separate separate professions in ukraine, well listen we have symbols of the problem before the war. so , where are the quality texts , quality movies, and so on, to come from? well, at least it was like that before the large-scale invasion or the creative class. in general, in ukraine, he ignored, he simply ignored... there are some really stubborn artists, there are musicians, what they reticulated is not always good, not always talented , we generally have a strange story that there are few high-quality

texts, that is, it is very strange that they are there, they are definitely there, but in the text that are not illustrative and which are able to survive 20-30 years, and imagine that in 50 years some young guy with a guitar sits down by the fire and plays a song written. now, in my opinion, such songs have not yet appeared , because it requires very high-quality calibrated work, well, that's all it is related to the language field, there are not so many people who know the ukrainian language. yes, but not so many people who have grown up with it and understand it perfectly, so this is the situation, but art is needed there, it is clear because it gives hope and that it is an important function. articulates archives the experience of this civilization. art itself is the best in visual images. it archives the experience of our civilizations. that is, this is our memory, this is our archive, thanks to which we survived, because this

art appeared, and obviously, art is, of course, it is about the road in the future in general. yes, i think so it will be by the way, you say that hollywood does not necessarily need to be in the war in order to make films about it that will survive, well, on the one hand, we all know that steven spielberg has never been to the second world war, but save private rain is a very emotional film, very strong images, let's say well, i have images in front of my eyes until now , what does this mean, a nazi kills an american soldier, yes, with a knife, it means that he cuts him slowly, yes, if we are all still with a pin, well, it is not powerful. in soviet times there was a film like this cranes fly, in my opinion, there is one shot in the whole film, which means the main character is killed, eh, i forgot how his last name is known as his soviet trotro, there is one shot, and this film very strongly conveys the war, not necessarily definitely to show the bloody locale and all these things just like eh again soviet poet-song

vysotsky he was never in the war but he says that the veterans always told him oh no, wait well, we're in the same trench well, how you could write such songs, no one will write or he was so rich during the war, it means that this is a military, military song topic, there are many songs that people still quote, well, here again, and on the other hand , we also remember remarque who was in the war, we remember hemingway, who did not fight but was also there he was in paris, he went there when he was released, and these works of his became classics, classics of war themes, so we believe that in ukraine - it will happen again . there is or is not. maybe she will change the view. by the way, i am really looking forward to it. i think you are too, because this maturity that we are transitioning to advance in the rear is a volunteer. wherever you are, but we are all who are in ukraine at least now and outside of ukraine. maybe they are growing up just like you

do you think this is growing up, a different view of life, maybe more self-confidence, it is also very important for a creative person not to think that somewhere there is russia, somewhere there is hollywood, somewhere there is someone else, and here we are such small ukrainians from a small culture that is zavaristovych, well, where let's push ourselves, we'll become braver, more mature with a different view. well , in the end, i'm declaring myself to the whole world, and we actually a-a opened this door with our feet with such a concrete dry boot a-a, i'll tell you more that in fact, well, if you are, well skillfully m-m you give examples, well, from the soviet reality, i’m not very familiar with it, but i remembered that there was such a phenomenon as lieutenant’s prose, the prose of lieutenant officers who went through world war ii and wrote fiction books in the 1960s and 1970s, which are also transmitted qualitatively, more

flexibly, less clerical war than it was accepted in the soviet union, and actually that is the prose it is. it appeared already there in the 16th-17th and 19th years. for example, i wrote a review of dmytro verbych's work - it's simple something incredible i completely forgot about it now, but the exact name of the book flew out of my head, but i highly recommend reading this work of his - he is a veteran - he is a super-tourist person, a tattoo artist and in general a cool cool guy ah, here we are just well reserved for my taste, the rest is not so much, but i i think that it's just she, you know. she is at the base of everything, at the base of the development of the construction of further such cultural forms . there is already prose, so there will be a movie, and there will be texts, so there will be songs. in this regard, i think everything is fine. the war directly, and among these people there are a hell of a

lot of talented people among them there are geniuses that i think this bloody episode is the most important in the entire history of ukraine. i think that out of a thousand there in the year 240 , er, this generation will already react well to the war and will not be able to ignore it, and the main thing is that it will become a muskolt, because it is short, it will turn out to be a high shelf, it is important, uh, there is no high shelf , there will be no oil, so it is absolutely obvious, but in ukraine there must be a high-quality muskolt of its own, including about the war, including a comic in including hookah rap and so on and so on and so on simple forms because first of all we live at a time when culture is first of all mascult there is nothing wrong with that there is no mascultze just if it is smeared smeared on the surface culture e thus it simply becomes accessible to everyone, from the

closest to the highest, therefore, people who are involved in high culture must be involved in the creation of the ukrainian muscovy, well , that is, simple culture, and it is really important that you know that people have experienced it, children have experienced it, i i remember well, you said about veteran prose, do you remember those ukrainian ones in writing zagrebelny let's say there i still remember there at home about the immortals oles gonchar bez terentiyovych well, there were many, many of these works and soviet literature there and kasilia astaf well, because these were people who wrote more frankly and more, as you say, along the party line. well, but still, for me , childhood was, let's say, 80 years, the beginning of the 80s-70s, eh. well , i was most afraid. war, which means the most i was afraid of the ghoul planes that would start bombing kyiv because the germans started bombing like that on the fourth morning, well,

actually , i experienced it already in my 40s. that this war will give birth to new politicians, i really believe in this, we will not go into the political topic now, but i really believe that people will come from the war or with volunteer activities or from public activities or simply people will come who will understand that ukrainians also need a new politics, or at least the new political landscape, it will change, it is already changing, and since it will no longer be accurate, and this is very much, and now i want to. well, as they say, well, first the special operations, denizification, now it’s just a matter of liberating donbas, but in any case, we ’ll see the video, because you know, a video went viral on the network, as there was a girl in lysychansk who sang patriotic songs, when ukraine controlled lysychansk and then she jumped out almost in a driving matryoshka doll to the occupiers and said how she was waiting for them and there were these women who said that they finally saw buckwheat and its oil because they had never seen anyone like this in ukraine, so they

welcomed russian peace and zhduny the so-called, well, they waited and welcomed because they could leave in principle, and here is a video of a boy from sloviansk, eh, and we will see how donbas really treats the russian world, let 's see. fighters, no one forces him, he sees his dead man who lived in the same place with him. this is the city of slovyansk, and he says sincerely, i hate the russian world, and here it is very important to move on to the topic . well, first of all, you can react to this video, i think you will do it in a peculiar way, please. there is a boy standing and next to him is the body of a dead

resident of sloviansk, and he says that i feel very sorry for him. i did not know him. i feel very sorry for him. peace, well, i want to be there for 10-12 years, it is very important, i will tell you what you are touched on an extremely important, almost untruthful topic, ukrainians are often very surprised, it constantly emerges that what is the reason for those people who meet muscovites in matryoshka costumes and so on. well, they forgot the answers, such cartridges were punctured by discs. they were watching russian tv there, and so on. and so on. but in fact that is actually not the case in the identity of these people, the identity is again simply russian, that's why they were waiting for their own, and that's why they easily perceive a rocket, their own garden , their own house from their own, that's why, that's why it's for them everything is absolutely fucked up if the russians came, er, so everything in the country is simply russian, that makes sense. well, in identity, you understand. no, they are more visible, that is why the origin is absolutely, namely, i call it the

muscovite culture, it is one of the forms of local russian identity. will do something because, uh, we will have to somehow redo everything and join the political nation or do some unpleasant things like some deportation of citizenship exams there and so on. there are people somewhere else, people are not leading ukraine here born and not exactly on this soil for exactly one day on the soil that they are completely immersed in the russian cultural context and therefore a russian is a russian . there are things in lithuania, in latvia there are passports of citizens, passports of non -citizens to the united states of america. you have to take an exam on knowledge of the language, on knowledge of the legislation of the history of the united states of america, well, that's normal , in general, that's it. well, the president says that he is transferred to the government and the verkhovna rada well, in principle , he is right because he is the verkhovna

rada of ukraine, and then the government should do something, but the important thing is that he is president zelensky. he said that it is correct. let's all let the people work, i ca n't . the decree itself is now written and all this should be a law. well, please, i think that it will be, but now we have a few such blocks left, we will now briefly discuss them, we have kom-12 left, but we will have time and start from there, i want to ask you about it about e-e great russian culture and said arrestovych, little ukrainian, er, we won't hunt for the arrestee, maybe he just knows a small part, as vasyl symonenko once wrote, that in the ocean of his native people he discovers spiritual islands. maybe these islands have not discovered them and do not know ukrainian culture. well, but in any by the way, this is the last story that shows why it is still important to spread the ukrainian language , to develop it, to popularize it so that it grows. i don't like her, i don't study her work well , i don't like it i don't watch it, i'm not interested that

's how he plays i like him, he's handsome remark i like him, he's original, that means i like you in the original way, well, i don't like it i don't care what you do like that horse despite the fact that i understand that he created such imperial literature, but he is interesting, his fandorin is elegant. although i will not read more now, i have already re-read it, but it means that he is coming to ukraine to broadcast to us on one of our resources on the air and quarrels with the presenter, says that no one will stop him, likes to go to ukraine, and there is so little here to promote anything at all and to be who he is. from e-e russian culture of any kind because we are simply told this boy i hate the russian world and i don't want to hear anything from them they had a chance to make a normal state and they didn't make it and now come to a country that pays with blood in order to to be normal. i don't think it's worth it. in your opinion,

is there really now a great russian culture, and how can we make it so that the ukrainian culture obviously becomes great for everyone? well, listen. i think that russian culture. well, it stopped making sense at all at the beginning of the 20th century and until came to our time in the form of such a funny but bloody effigy. in fact, i generally look at it broadly. i don’t understand why we ukrainians are discussing all these characters there. and the last 30 years in our life, there are too many russians, there are too many, and they climb and climb and it is impossible to stop, well, that is, it seems to me that it can be added up to too many russians, they climb and climb war war war war war we do not have to understand them at all, me for example for example, i think that i am familiar with russian culture and the

russian language quite well, but these sigmats are sigmats that simply remained then it is enough to catch a traumatic experience in the future , this experience is not needed. russian culture is not the russian language is also needed in ukraine, and it is not needed for a very simple reason. the thing is that ukrainian culture, the ukrainian language is absolutely functional, they cover all absolute needs, er, which can be closed, language and culture, a pragmatic question arises. makes sense sometimes they say but ukrainian culture is said to be such a professional mr. it is so to say aristovych in general er called her small well, that is how you can say a person who well simply does not know about the existence of many phenomena well, no is a carrier in general among ukrainians yes, but ukrainian culture, if you use such terms, it is

great why because it is simple enough for now, but it articulates the value of freedom, a super ideal, a super ideal about some kind of world. in germany, sanatoriums, so to speak, and on green energy , oh , freedom freedom is ours, by the way. they are masked even in the high culture, these freedom is very well perpendicular in the political culture in the legal and so on freedom is the military world and this visa of our world freedom does not matter even what we will do with it the very possibility of freedom is already a super value that's all russian culture is not about freedom, we definitely don't need it, it hinders us, and this memory is filled with images of the soviet cultural past from serving. well, it just takes up

space in our consciousness, we could fill it the place is not even our cool classics . now the generation of great heroes, the generation of future classics, we are the generation of great ancestors. in other words, it must be understood that our children are our grandchildren and great-grandchildren. for them, we are the same titans as the classics themselves just take a minute and do everything talentedly. i think it will happen and that's how it was six, you know, in russian culture they always have that's why i went to give you the freedom to tire and e dubrovsky pushkin and

pugachevskaya war they always have this battle for freedom even to show it all the same, you are doomed and reading them was very sad because you understand that the boyar tsar will win anyway, there is some kind of army and even this last film, their leviathan, which is shown very well, when he comes, it means a muscovite somewhere there, somewhere in the far east it is still being defeated, that is, it is still a struggle to be free, it is in them doomed, so now we will focus on us, we have literally five minutes . to finance , to popularize and give the army what it needs, what you can give, tell a little about your volunteer activities and invite those who have not yet joined, why is it important to be a volunteer, please, let us use your experience to defeat the enemy, and what else moment and sensations, what is the feeling when you join something great, this is huge. yes

, someone with a penny, someone invests their name, reputation, like me. it is easier for me to be given money and than for someone else. let's say. it seems a little faster to me, and to some it is much faster, and if you have people, you must use these resources. it's a matter of involvement, involvement in this national body , you understand, because the national instinct broke through, we felt, we looked at each other and thought you know what you thought, we thought, guys. i love you, i love you. if there were volunteers, there would be nothing because a volunteer is just a manifestation of mutual love and trust. as you can see, it is a national

instinct that has awakened and it has shown us where our people come from. now we are in the chivalry basically because we have people yes they ever die our warriors they die triumphantly er if it is a heroic death it is well you know in the old days people dreamed about it and warriors in particular it is simple well, you understand and a volunteer is just the same, this is just a body, a body of resistance, what do i do, these are cars ? so on. also, i provided one unit of gur actively with various things there with plate carriers and so on. it’s easier and forgiving, including us in

this butkevich, and we are actively dealing with issues of drones and also with the band pyryatyn, which now well , it doesn’t work musically, but we are also involved in fundraising and supporting money for expensive , inexpensive, already operational drones, and one of them with the logo of my band will soon fly in the sky and distribute fire to the russians. that what is happening to understand and talk about it is very important for this not everyone is capable even if it turned out to be capable even if you are wrong so you have to do make statements so that a system appears even if it is wrong so because if you think systematically even if you are wrong you you will be able to change your optics in the same systematic way and find the truth. in the end, you have to talk about this war, talk about it. at the very end

, i want to tell a story about why it is important to support the army even if you are not at the front. of information, money to volunteer, maybe there is psychological help, someone needs help, someone needs to cook, well, there is a family somewhere, maybe we need to support a fallen soldier in a defense soldier, not kharkiv region, they liberated our point and our soldiers came and talked to a woman who lives in this village, and she says that when she was under occupation, she worked as a social worker and fed her grandmother in the village, and she came to a grandmother, she is 93 years old, and everything is difficult there, and she says, you know what she says when our the guys come in and says let them come to my house i want to kiss their hands before i die, so come in our soldiers and everyone is crying they say the guys come to this grandmother they come in and the grandmother is 93 years old and says she survived the second world war and this video and she says i it's good that even though she saw you angels before her death, she kisses your hands, how important it is for people, and when you see and hear it, you understand how important it is to win literally for 30 seconds

, but say one more word, please, this grandmother said it was very important that she saw angels because our zsu the army is a collective archangel michael, if you use such terminology at all, and ukraine is now just a manifestation of god. well, if you use our traditions like this, the terminology can be raised in a different way. yes, but ukraine is a manifestation of god himself . in our eyes , thank you very much, thank you very much for a thoroughly emotional, cool conversation, and you yourself were with us , an artist, writer, poet, musician, cultural figure of armody projects, volunteer front-ground crossing i wish you the best of success in your struggle and your work. i thank you, dear viewers, for being with us. during this time, i will meet with you already at 19:00. be with espresso. take care of yourself and let's work together for victory. this was a program of vasyl 's worldview. in ukraine, the main topic for ukrainians is victories and losses

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serhiy rudenko. good day and good health to all, about the participation of belarusians in the russian-ukrainian war, putin's gas blackmail of europe, the announced offensive of the ukrainian army in the south, today we are talking with our guest, this is the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine in 2007-2009 politician and diplomat volodymyr grishko, mr. volodymyr, i am glad to welcome you to our program. good health to you . and i hope that with the joint efforts of e-e informational political military diplomatic we will definitely win, let's start with putin's gas blackmail because we have been watching over the last few days how the russian federation is reducing the supply of gas to western europe, while the minister of finance