i have been asking you for the past 4 months whether there are any diplomats or state leaders in the world who are ready to shake vladimir putin's hand after the war he started in ukraine. as of today, what would you say is the proportion of those countries and those leaders who are ready to accept putin as a person who is one of the 20 leaders of countries that influence the world economy and when they will finally stop inviting him to the meetings of the big seven, the big seven plus one , when they will stop inviting him to big summits and in such a way to legitimize what he is doing in ukraine well, in principle, here i would distinguish

two groups of countries, er, civilized and not so. if we talk about the first group, then no one will shake hands with him, you see that already well, so to speak, the tone is very bad, and even those brave leaders of some countries in quotation marks who tried to convince him of something, and everything else is clear that this is monkey work. well, there is no chance that something will happen. a case that cannot be cured by conventional means but there is a second part of countries that is more expensive, also represented in the 20s, these are countries that are dependent to a certain extent on russia, and if we take a broader view of the 20s, let's say the countries of asia, latin america, then

there are a number of countries that receive help from russia with money, weapons, advisors in quotation marks, of course, because these are actually hired killers and so on in order to support these or that same regimes and the like, so it is more difficult here. but we are talking about the standards of the civilized world. to which the other must with a certain time to come. well, putin has already descended to the level of a leader in quotation marks, a new country that , well, does not belong to civilization . humanity from those countries with which you can do business, and in relation to others, well, believe me, after all, the usa and europe are 60% of the world's gdp, whatever it

is, it is much more than 1% in russia and much more than many others together goes because i think that even in china, which today is far from demographic standards and principles, understands what it is economically beneficial for him to return to russia, because all its export capacity is exactly where it is. therefore, russia has no chance of becoming the center of attraction for certain countries, unless it is openly such authoritarian democratic ones, and the same morning there is a discussion about what is happening now in the russian federation and its future, of course, it also affects me, as they testify to what they say about the future. last week, putin met with the leaders of the factions and gennady zyuganov, the permanent leader of the

communist party of the russian federation and the leader factions in the state duma asked putin what he thinks about what needs to be built in russia, can capitalism, what is the way to transition to socialism? well, i understand that their communism is also, let's listen to what putin actually said, and this is the question-answer that sounded economy, socialism, ego there is no one to win, that's why i'm waiting for you in the next introduction, you will already set socialist tasks, the owner is sitting nearby, smiling, and we already like this idea. as for the socialist idea, i have nothing. in some countries, there are rehearsals with comparative forms of regulation, it is necessary to watch the

work effectively. as for the participation of the state, this is what it would be like to gather. as a rule, where does the state need to participate , and in what form? these people who are sitting at that table in putin's office and think about something there, about socialism or communism. of social standards to come, but when their soldiers come to ukraine and steal, i’m sorry, toilets from apartments, well, what are they talking about, this is a complete imitation and it is clear that these imitators cannot make any drastic decisions, there is only hmm one line that is not

vladimir putin why i mentioned about this discussion and capitalism or socialism in russia because on july 15 in russia there is to be a meeting of the state duma and a special meeting of the security council of the russian federation and i remember very well how before the great war, similar events took place, and when putin was simply pointing out the same thing, what should be done, and so that he is not mistaken, what is happening, how should all this be interpreted, what do you expect from these two events, i mean according to the state duma and according to the security council, because there are many assumptions about what could happen next, that russia may officially declare war on ukraine, that a mass mobilization may be announced there, that in the end the state duma and the council of security may decide on the accession of several regions of ukraine to russia and

this is a way to threaten ukraine that if you attack warehouses in the kherson region, you will be dealing not just with ordinary weapons that they use now during the war, although it is unusual, but with nuclear weapons. what can we expect from the russians? i do not understand whether it is possible to measure them with one arshin and understand what they want before starting your question, there are discussions about socialism or capitalism, well , that's all. of course, political delusion, there is neither socialism nor capitalism, and russia lives in a paradigm autocracy and it has not disappeared anywhere from the first e-e prince in quotation marks who was appointed by gordius to the

last prince who is today the president of this state. that is, there is no other way of existence than e-e this very vertical e-e baren slave e-e and everything actually revolves around this, not around a social order, but around this wild , purely russian-asian vertical, so he can tell any fables about some discussions there, what are we actually talking about what to expect eh you are right eh in russia eh to wait you can only do what comes to mind at a specific moment on the same m-m greeting- the ruler who will become either with the left or the right foot and the fate of not only his state may depend on this, but

unfortunately also those who are close and it is far from it, so i think that you can read any kind of unexpected things, but believe me, they can’t surprise you with anything. well, well , he will say that there is kherson oblast. by the russian federation well, what? well, he said what, uh independent states are er. these are the shortcomings of er. ldn. well, in what way does this change our attitude to all of this? does it change the attitude of er, well, ukraine ? will threaten with nuclear weapons once again well, yes, well, this is not the first time. well, unless he can announce there that he

will bring his troops to a state of heightened combat readiness, they did it once, maybe not once, that is, eh well , i don't think it's possible to wait for something extraordinary because he's exhausted all the tools. well, i'm just saying that, uh, continue to threaten nuclear war. well, but hm , uh, that's already kind of passed, so i think it's just inciting hysteria, inciting the fact that anyway, uh, we're big and we can still shake our nuclear stick but no more among those who support and who are complicit in putin's war eh in this great eh in this great war it is

oleksandr lukashenko, we have already talked about this with you several times and tried to analyze the actions of lukashenko and it is clear that analyzing the actions of a person who is completely it is very difficult to depend on russia. however, what lukashenko says. he says that we will build a union state. although they started building this state, if i am not mistaken, 15 years ago, but let's listen to what lukashenko told his parliamentarians . this is the sacred interest of the belarusian people. well, it is necessary to understand that russia has global interests, uh, they also have uh, in accordance with the views on the development of belarus, this is correct today everything has already been understood what is belarus for russia and russia for belarus in this regard, we will also have to become more active in order to preserve sovereignty and independence, we must do the maximum for

cooperation in the economy, for our unity, for our unity well, do everything so that no one can throw a stone at us что мы не рушилики ето вопроса был взайм с россией well, this is the position of the self-proclaimed president of belarus. they are now quite actively discussing the possibility of the belarusian army participating in the war and the west of the belarusian army from the north of ukraine. do you think it depends on lukashenka now, or is it just stupid to think about whether lukashenko will go for it or not because the decision -making center is still in moscow well, it is obvious that lukashenko has long since lost the ability to accept some of independent decisions, although you can see in this phrase that you cited in the same place, the line sounds very clearly, and

yours, ours, that is, we are a sovereign state, for us, it is the warmth of everything, together. with that, we will definitely work with russia. that is, er it's not at all what it was even a few months ago, when belligerent statements were made , we will advance, we will help with our armed forces and so on, i think that lukashenko as a cunning fox perfectly understands that the russian army as well as russia itself somewhere has already switched to the formula from the bazaar it is no longer up there it is already on fire and he does not want to directly er-e mess into this story because well if imagine if there at least one

battalion of belarusian troops will cross the border, well, this will mean that, uh, all his ways are already cut off like this he can say, "well, i was forced to do so. yes, we used the airfields of russian aviation, but my soldiers were at home, we did n't make a single church of our guns, it was the russians, and so on. and so on, there is at least some kind of some kind of excuse for the fact that it's not us, it's them. and if you already give an order, and the order should come from him , because he is, after all, their pseudo -constitution, the supreme commander-in-chief, that is, then that's all, that's why i think that there will be a decision on involvement from him belarusian troops to the last, he will look for any excuses not to do this, but he will give his military infrastructure so

that the russians can even use it. collected in belarus well, just not hmm well, it’s not enough, it could be a provocation at the border. yes, that’s one thing, but the next thing. by the way, mr. volodymyr, the american experts are also talking about the fact that lukashenko is trying to play from russia institute for the study of war, they say that the self-proclaimed president of belarus continues to give russia access to the airspace of belarus in order to demonstrate the nominal support of the russian president, vladimir putin, without the risk of direct participation of the belarusian armed forces in the war. meanwhile, information has appeared that the authorities of belarus can to get the opportunity to temporarily limit the departure of citizens of the country abroad if it is

contrary to the interests of national security, such a provision is contained in the draft law that came to of the parliament of ukraine, that is, belarus is turning into north korea, and this may also be a sign that lukashenko still thinks that if the belarusian army goes on the offensive against ukraine, he will still have to carry out mobilization and people they can simply leave the borders of the republic of belarus. well, of course, we will follow two events: the state duma meeting and the security council of the russian federation. because that is where i think the russian-ukrainian war and, in general, the current situation will be resolved in the post-soviet space, i, volodymyr, cannot but ask you as an experienced person, as a person who

knows everything about world diplomacy, about this dispute, which is an absentee dispute between the ukrainian side and victoria, victoria sparts, who lives in the united states of america, a congresswoman we know that she wrote an open letter to joe biden and demanded that he answer the question who is andriy yermak? the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine reacted quite harshly to this, saying that, in principle, during the war, such questions are not it is necessary to insert in this way and uh, there was a very big discussion in the media and social environment in social networks uh, serhiy sydorenko and serhiy musaeva from ukrainian pravda interviewed victoria sparts, who was once a citizen of ukraine

in the early 2000s, she left from ukraine, got a higher education here, then made a political career in the united states of america, what does sparz say and why does she talk about why she wrote such a letter to biden, let's listen to the question for me if i spend money american record companies, if we help your country, we can, we must also make sure that the money goes to those guys who are fighting, who are fighting in your country now. we are sure of this. things that can be from our side there are problems but the problems from our side have been solved and now the problems are not solved with the first to voice some

problems because i do not think that they will be public but from your side now there is a problem obviously, the main problem is not andrii yermak , the lack of control over the money that comes to ukraine and the problem with the formation of a specialized anti-corruption prosecutor’s office, because the appointment of the head of the sap and eh about how ukraine behaves in relations with the united states of america. how do you feel about this absentee discussion? if it takes place during the war, what conclusions should we draw here in ukraine, you, mr. serhiu, when the question is asked, did you remember that ms. sport wrote a letter to the president biden well, in that coordinate system and in ours , by the way, it is necessary to

respond to such letters, i do not think that this answer will be a response to the american political system, and it is absolutely impossible and unacceptable , yes that such an answer should be in essence, and for some reason it seems to me that uh, when preparing this answer, the american side uh will bring to the leadership of our country certain points that i think cannot be taken into account, so i look forward to this answer someday will appear, you mean that the americans will respond an unambiguous answer to whether andriy yarmak has a relationship with russia or not. i mean that if the question becomes a hacksaw or weapons or changes, then i think that after all, our government will make the right choice

. why do you think that in this situation you have this discussion the absentee discussion involved the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine, because well, in fact, it is not a question of the ministry of foreign affairs to answer the congresswoman's letter, which she also addressed to the president not of ukraine, but of the united states of america. it simply shows all the intricacies of the functioning of the foreign policy cars in ukraine, as in general. this story will have an impact on the future of our relations with the united states of america because we understand that in the current situation washington plays an important key role, we understand that a lot depends on washington and ramstein, which will take place on july 20, and the decision of key

countries in the world and many, many things. well, actually, the finale of the russian-ukrainian war, i agree with you, mr. serhiy, the usa plays an exceptionally important, well, the most important importance is that what is happening today on the fronts, and that is why we we cannot question either this practical help to our armed forces or the political perspective of relations with this country, so i repeat to you, i really hope that the reaction of the ukrainian side will be appropriate, because i repeat once again question such things such as weapons, as a whole, our victory well, there are no correct ones, and at the end of our program, i want to ask you about the

resignation of boris johnson, because it is clear that boris johnson played an important role in these four months of the russian-ukrainian war, he always was close to ukraine, he was always close to zelenskyi, the most critical moments and can the change of the prime minister of the great bri no change the policy of this country towards ukraine regarding aid to the ukrainian state, you know i think that he will not be able to change it, uh, as we say in relation to the americans two-party and two-way support is the same here, and i think that it is not about the fact that with the change of the head of the conservative party, the course of britain will change. even if you imagine that later this is a normal process, other political forces will this radically change something no no this is already the rubicon which west and britain will cross that's why

i don't think uh but i believe that for balza johnson this is not his last political position now they started actively saying that well enough let's say so delicately using no current secretary general of nato should have a figure who understands the strategy of uh, not looking at himself, looking ahead , this is the function of uh, such a leader, and at the same time, of such an organization, so if this idea will continue , then i think that we will see uh more than once boris johnson in ukraine and maybe even not just as a guest as the head of this organization to which ukraine finally belongs there thank you mr. volodymyr for the conversation i wish you

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large family dmytrenko contact with which ended on the night of march 12, 14-year-old diana , 12-year-old timofey, eight-year-old etori and five-year-old demir. they all disappeared in mariupol together with their father. and for four months nothing is known about their fate, just a stunning story the grandmother of the missing children, who also lived in mariupol, told me about the family of the dmytroniks. only by a miracle did i manage to get out of there with my uh- husband, leaving on march 31. we sent shells that tore at us . we can't stay in the basement anymore, we'll go out find out or leave again the explosion went off and then we'll find out that my civil husband's house

was completely bombed now tetyana stepanivna is in vinnytsia and says she already found out here the breakdown that happened to her family because there was simply no communication in mariupol, and there was no way to get to her son under the shelling, he and his wife and six children lived separately in a high-rise building on 51 troitska street, moreover, his wife was pregnant and about to have a child giving birth, so there was no talk of evacuation on february 26, and her husband took her from the maternity hospital and said, "where are you going, shells, i'll give you that, or there is no connection with us from the phone, there is no normal connection, there was no communication , and now it is known that when the wife and the baby was discharged from the maternity ward. a large family of dmytroniks decided to stay in the city for a while during the shelling. everyone hid in the basement, and on the night of

march 12 it was more or less calm, so the wife and children decided to go to the storeroom on their floor, and the father made his bed in the corridor in we have a corridor, a corridor in a room in a large apartment , he laid another light by himself and everything flows to him, he sent him alone without dad, dad couldn’t leave four children diana tymofiy, etori and dimir stayed with their father in the apartment, and three more were hiding together with my mother in the pantry, and on this very night, at 4 a.m. , a shell hit the house of the dmitrenka family, a powerful explosion rang out, save everyone, pull them into the kitchen, they shouted, mom, help zhenya, her father lost consciousness, and her husband lost consciousness, and she also lost her will to go out into the street they lowered from the 9th floor

to the first floor, she already created herself, when the children were in the car, help was soon taken, the seat belt was taken off while drunk, and they were still in the apartment, the mother of the three most affected children was taken to the hospital, the child was in a serious condition, but now with everything is fine with them, but the fate of the father and four more children is dragging timofia etor and dymir, who remained in the apartment, and now it is unknown. especially the residents of occupied mariupol , who may now see me on social networks, look carefully at the photo of the children: 14-year-old diana, 12-year-old timofey, eight-year-old etori and five-year-old dimir lived at 51 troitska street, that's where they were seen

lastly if anyone knows where they may be now do not hesitate to call us at magnolia child tracing service on the short number 116 000 from any mobile phone calls are free or write to the chatbot of the child tracing service in telegram any information is important this is just one story of missing children in general since the beginning of the war. we have received more than a thousand requests for help in the search, fortunately, most of the children have already been found, but the fate of many remains unknown, especially this applies to the temporarily occupied territories where in fact paralyzed work of the police from where it is impossible to leave but there are communication problems in some places, people who cannot find their own children do not even know what to do where to turn if you suddenly find yourself in a similar situation and have no idea how to act call the short number 116 000 or write in the chat boat