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that is to say, after carrying out preventive work, it will turn out that something is not right with the pipe, and in 10 days it cannot be renewed for operation , it needs some kind of longer repair for several months, they say well, you see, the lg plant in free party in the united states you can repair yourself. and why can’t we stretch the ban on use and this, so to speak, will be limited opportunities in europe to pump more gas, but storage for the winter. there would be a cold weather in europe in the winter. so the ultimatum will not only apply to gas supplies, somewhere there may be a general requirement to revise the sanctions regimes. so, if this is what you and i were talking about, canada's decision to return the gas turbine
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for germany's nord stream. thank you, mr. mykhailo, we will monitor this situation because it is not only about gas, not only about the sanctions regime, but actually about possible backroom negotiations mykhailo gonchar, expert on international energy and security relations, president of the global studies center strategy 21 worked live on the espresso tv channel's informational and analytical marathon. it's hard to be ukrainian. we have to fight with the russians. we should worry if the germans don't freeze, so that the income level of average europeans doesn't fall, because they help us so that they don't start asking questions of their governments. there is no time to make a decision, so to speak, but the espresso tv channel has made it a rule to do it periodically, especially since we have an informational reason to contact us now mark savchuk, adviser on anti-corruption policy,
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demo axes, chairman of the public control council, buy a brand , we congratulate you glory to ukraine glory to the heroes, we recently spoke on the air and announced the meeting of the court of the district administrative court of the city of kyiv, it is about recognition the illegal procedure for holding a competition for the head of sap and today, july 12, it was supposed to take place - this appeal should have taken place, this consideration by the appeals court of the decision of the general administrative court, there is already some understanding of what was decided or not decided there. and on at the moment it is not yet known. and you must understand that the meeting was held without the presence of the parties, that is, the court, so to speak , gathered itself. while we don't know, i could just postpone the meeting, i could make a decision, but not
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yet . ah ah they constantly drip on our heads with the fact that we need to appoint the chief prosecutor of sap, and the judges will simply be afraid, but they understand that there is a large amount of attention to these now, and that's why they will probably try to transfer them somewhere to august, when all they leave when western bureaucrats and officials go on vacation, and when we start talking about something else here, and i don't know. maybe someone from the verkhovna rada will be there in the obsessional hall with them, so that they can talk about it later that's natural it's important. well, and at such a moment, use a-a situation in order to make some kind of critical decision. while you and i are talking about it, the public's attention is focused on it directly a-a. i think they
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will just be they are afraid, well, accordingly, i would like to have such closed hearings as little as possible for a case like this, because, well, in general, it would probably be quite normal to broadcast such things online. there, we understand that there may be some passionate emotions in the courtroom well, society should know, because this story is actually extremely serious, and last time we said that the united states had put a lot of money into this case, and look, i even wanted to tell you some very interesting cases, first of all, this trial concerns me personally. because the man who sued luask is called aleksandr koreev, he is the former head of the second division of nabu. this is a person whom we have fired. this is
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a person who is currently being sued personally with me. in the competition for a-a, she selected the head of sap and suffered a defeat and in a strange way, it means that she filed a lawsuit in the uask about the fact that the members of the competition commission do not have the authority to determine the administrative position. -and in the prosecutor's office and-and in you a-a see means beautiful honest judges they are few not corrupt you are not from the decision that uh the claim a-a was justified and they satisfied this claim a-a korean and now he went to appeal a-a means the judge who made the decision a-and in aske, this is a person who today is
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the one who sings nabu from the same uh-e famous uazka films. of the suspects for today's judges and issued this decision means and now this the case is in epilation, and in epilation, the presiding judge of the three judges appointed to this case is a former citizen of the russian federation , a former person who served in the military service in the russian federation, it was a long time ago in 2000, and in 2001 he transferred i received citizenship in ukraine and now , taking into account what is happening now, it is taking into account that russia is at war with ukraine. it seems to me that it would be very right for the security service of ukraine to pay attention specifically to this judge, his name is eh
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igor fedotov ah and well, how would you see what is happening? what kind of people do you see around this whole korean osk tatorov yarmak and there is a question about what viktoria sparks says when he asks the administration of baydun to provide information about the connections of the yharmak a-a from the russian federation a-a i warned er-e on the airwaves er-e when before that we talked about the amount of reforms in ukraine that we will do will affect the military assistance a-a what we now see - this is probably one of the worst scenarios that we have we can theoretically do it in general. and we take a-a man who was fired from nabu because he sold himself to kolomoisky a-a and this man is taking eh to court and who is purely accused of bribery nabu a person who now refuses to be
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suspected nabu down the solution the first instance and it is that the presiding judge, who is a former citizen of russian farmers, mark, we understand that this story is extremely serious and that it directly concerns the future of our state, because we understand that ukraine is tied extremely tightly with the united states, i have historically tried to think of one or another mechanism so that our central government could show concrete political will, we understand that in our government, so to speak, its judiciary is separated from each other, it is about the executive power, but here history is extremely important was there an impossibility, for example, i don’t know, to hold a closed meeting between the representatives of the supervisory board, the representatives of the sap competition commission, and so on , with representatives of the central government, maybe there are some
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mechanisms to do it as soon as possible and to stop such stories as soon as possible because we understand that the statement of the congress from spartaz is only the beginning of what will happen tomorrow the day after tomorrow in a week i don't even want to think all this can be finished in 5 minutes, we also discussed this with you, that the competition commission can appoint a winner , they just need to gather in one room, raise their hands and vote for the decision of the final of the competitions, in which a-a klymenko er-e it yes, the former detective well, how is he now a detective, he was now in a competition for the head of a sap and won this competition and accordingly becomes a corner garden all the same. and somehow it turned out that after the appointment, they immediately withdraw from the decision through the courts. and it seems
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to me that it will not come to this after all, and the decision itself, the appointment is very strong. let's say that it will give everyone a signal that it will go further signal and sustim will give a signal to everyone, it is very terrible that we have manual justice. what is happening, as you can see, i told you that the lawsuit itself was initiated even before the war, that is, now the situation is significantly complicated, and the fact that the presidential administration was thinking before she was thinking just endlessly delay this competition, now the situation is much more difficult, because all these things are a competition for sap. and who is korea like a judge? today, this is much more sharp, much more sensitive and, er, to do things arbitrarily, which are already difficult, but still, this is the main
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argument of our western partners, guys, who are you fighting with? you are fighting with russia . things happen to you in russia, well, like seriously . what's going on with you? and of course this is the biggest question. this is the biggest question because now we see that america said that it is not against canada transferring the turbine to europe. it is obvious that there is a relationship between germans and canadians, and against which they are not against. well, that is, they do not want to violate the western coalition, the fact that ukraine shows that, well, we do not respect the opinion of our western partners very much, so well, how would this very much affect our relations with us, let's hope that after all, everything will be decided precisely in the interests
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of our state. thank you, marko ma- marko shum , adviser on anti-corruption policy, dem axes, chairman of the council of public control, nabu worked live on the espresso tv channel, several very important bodies, 30 more soldiers killed in battles with the occupiers about this the ministry of reintegration of the temporarily occupied territories of ukraine informs that they will be handed over to their families for a dignified burial . message in the kherson region, five ukrainians were released from russian captivity and ukraine became an associate member of the program of technological cooperation of the armed forces of nato countries. this is reported by the ministry of defense of ukraine. of defense of ukraine, oleksiy riznichenko, a traffic jam has formed in the danube, a
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queue of 130 ships is taking out our grain, eh, these ships are waiting for passage at the entrance to the romanian of the sulina channel this is reported ukrainian shipping megazing congestion is connected with the activation of shipping and the export of ukrainian grain through romanian terminals the queue in the sea in one word with our grain the military brains of the forces of the armed forces of ukraine reported that a-a so far, that is , through the rivers but we will try to export ukrainian grain in order to normally feed the whole world and get some money from that export. at the same time, yesterday there was a report about eight vessels that came to the port to load and now you are already talking about 130 vessels trying to export ukrainian grain, this is positive, but let us remind
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you that on july 13, turkey announced a four-way meeting on the export of ukrainian grain . the un delegation notes in the ministry, i think we can start with this so yes to the live broadcast of oleg dundu, people's deputy of ukraine, and andrii osadchuk, people's deputy of ukraine, if he is already in contact with us, well, we see happiness in the parliament, is it a great pity? well, we will fight to the end, well , accordingly, i would like to start, of course, with the story about the
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revelation of the spartan congresswoman. so, we understand that this story will probably require some additional attention from on the part of the verkhovna rada, there was no relation to what she suggested there, well, it means the information fan. yes, but there were several important points, in particular, about some mechanisms that would satisfy americans, yes, in cooperation with us. how do you see the story? i see the story that this is a statement by an individual congresswoman and it is not a question that satisfies the americans to release a brown woman individually, and not in general the government or the senate or the congress of the united states. in relation to this situation, other congressmen who support there is much more ukraine and much more cooperation with ukraine, but it should be noted that we have a place in the united states, how do the elections start in the last eight years, for sure, the question always arises
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some political forces of ukraine or democrats or republicans are trying, it depends on their political weather on the street, to use this map of ukraine, from our side, we have already learned the history, we have already repeatedly received losses from those political companies, and therefore we must for ourselves in the end in the end, the only way to determine the situation is to not interfere in this story at all, as soon as the political election company of the united states passes, as it was and before that , everything is immediately forgotten, any rhetoric, any forget the accusations and we will go along this path if, of course, ukraine does not make any mistakes and will not interfere with the domestic political companies of the united states. therefore, i believe that we as the ministry of foreign affairs and as the government and in general as ukraine as the verkhovna rada should only contemplate their political
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debates and not to interfere and the domestic political agenda is simply a solomonic decision, i agree with you, so it remains to wish our responsible officials strong nerve endurance , yes, because we uh, i would like to add that it would be ideal, but in our country very often our officials of the ministry of internal affairs can't stand it and give some kind of comments on emotions , nevertheless, for your sake, we can hold back a little if you ca n't get emotions at all to anyone . e congratulations on the interview with victoria spartz, well, i especially have a question and before this interview was taken and in what tone it was generally made public as well. i did not quite understand the tone of mrs. victoria in some moments
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, but that's why it's subjective one way or another today eh we are also talking about the things that she noted . and just before the conversation with you, dear people's deputies, we spoke with the adviser on the issue of anti-corruption policy demo ax about the review by the appeals court of the decision of the usc on the recognition of the procedure for conducting the competition for the head of the sap as illegal so we still don't have the head of the sap after the competition has been held. in general, there is again a legal red tape around this. we have some results of the appeal session. maybe or we are still waiting. good evening once again. well, you know me. appellate the court does not report, that's why i don't know what the status is, but the situation is not even just in the appeal session, the situation is that, on the one hand, our allies
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have a political struggle. this struggle is brutal and it has always been and will be. and this is normal and natural, and at the same time, of course, ukraine, which is now at the center of world politics, will of course be used by one or another political forces in france , great britain, the united states, so before that we just have to be constantly ready, but when they hit us in our weak spots, i'm referring to dynamo ukraine, of course we don't have to speak up here. of the national anti-corruption bureau , the completion of the judicial judicial reform, it will not be far behind, because these are basic things, this is what i have been talking about for the third year, uh, probably already everyone is tired of it.
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as far as i understand, and because of the war, including uh, the draft law is currently in the ukrainian parliament without consideration, what is its fate, how is this a reform, uh, you can start a reform, you can't finish it in our country, this judicial reform has been going on for 8 or 9 years we are constantly reforming, reforming, but in the end people do not have fair, well, you know the point of view, i will tell you. yes, i am not very interested in what the british, the french, the germans demand from us, the joint headquarters, i wonder what they want in marriage and what they get, that's the main thing, because we work for ukraine, for our ukrainians, if this is for the benefit or in what way it will be done, ukrainians should not be bothered by the anti-corruption prosecutor's office or by the district court and the greek with him, let it be through them, but you should not get justice and legality, what mr. andrii said about it, it can only be supported, they will ask
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vlad from us, and no way did you do it, and did you do it and for this is what we will be responsible for in the next elections, and we , uh, and we, too, when we will already do it is necessary to think a lot and work hard for this, let's do it for a little bit, i will lead you a little bit on a different path to another forest, an important question is the administrative court, do you trust people in general is interested in doing only what interests people and becoming an absolutely populist country, which is a rule in general, the country changes in a positive way very often by doing unpopular things and perhaps quite painful for people, but in the long run they benefit the machine, any deputies , any politicians, any officials generally work in ukraine and for the people, and not for some kind of sonar justice somewhere there, first of all, if they do not work, people reform the country
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, i wanted to quote the good old the maximum is about roses and grapes, beautiful, useful, well, unfortunately, it is not always possible, so returning to my offtop, writing off loans for destroyed property, an application moment, people ask this about the topic of specialized anti-corruption bodies, we will return again and again, what about tim's loans, mr. oleg, the question is for me , yes, well, look tomorrow, new property, the state, which bears full responsibility for the country for its security , should accordingly impose this responsibility for ensuring the return of loans, in what way have you voted now the relevant draft law will be in the first reading , we will finalize it, there are many urgent issues, as well as compensation for destroyed housing, there are various
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means. i hope that we, as deputies in including the vote from the eu and others, we will finalize it and in the next month there will be a final version. thank you, oleg. mr. andrii, please respond . perhaps, in this regard, andrii, in terms of loans , once again, any damaged property must be compensated, people should not bear the burden of responsibility for obligations decisions that they can not fulfill, but we must be very careful, we very often made many populist decisions based on emotions, and in this convocation and in recent months, there were many cases when we made some decisions, then after some time they were changed or canceled, and now the verkhovna rada has moved more or less into, let's say, a calm
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mode of operation, so i really hope that the decision that was made in the first reading , aimed at solving the issue of these loans, will be very carefully worked out before the second reading and that we after all, we will be able to avoid pebbles, they can happen . it was supposed to be a good initiative, but it ended. well , let's put it differently, that's why once again, hurry - this is a bad, bad adviser in matters of money and in matters of protecting the rights of citizens, there are problems. she understood, again, i don't want to give up any special details now a lot of people are working on this and i really expect that without haste somewhere closer to a month we will close this story, but i will not, i understand where there may be underwater
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pebbles, but i will not talk about them on the air in order to press you, you can tell already in eteri well, anyway, without you, someone says what kind of corrections to provide in order to push through what they want , but for my part, i think andrii agreed here, well , very carefully watch who submits which corrections and, accordingly, if such a person is still a submission or underwater pebbles, but we we will tell you about it publicly, we will wait well, they are intrigued, they do not understand what khrystyna is, professional politicians know how to know the realities of the law on deoligarchization and what do you think gentlemen will do with rinat akhmetov's powerful media group and what do you think why did he take this step? andrei, well, you know. i think that we are only seeing the tip of the iceberg of this story. first of all, i can think about it as a person who has worked in corporate business for almost 20 years in the management of the
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company, so i understand that for them, it is an asset that was extremely burdensome because at the beginning of the full-scale duplication, all the revenues of the television company were reduced to zero, and the expenses were huge. at the same time , we understand that the akhmetov holding lost , as i understand it, a huge number of its assets in the east of the country, therefore, from the point of view of the financial health of their organization, they have huge problems. well, they continue to service these assets. i think, of course, it would be very difficult for them at the moment, on the other hand, i understand that there are a lot of policies about which we so far no one is saying because they returned only the licenses and, accordingly, all the entire property complex and all the equipment, everything, everything, everything that actually is the material base for this media empire , it remained of course in the property of scm, so i am
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not surprised that all assets will be for some time they are simply canned and then after some time they will come back to this question in a different form, they are actually more concerned about the fate of the workers because no matter how good or bad rinat akhmetov is, there are almost 4,000 people. as far as i know, how many people were working there now? i know that journalists in general have a difficult situation, many people have been left without work for many obvious reasons, they have been cut off, and now, of course, this is the increase in unemployed media workers on the market. i think it will greatly affect the quality in general of the entire industry in the coming years, i don't like this story, first of all, from the point of view that to destroy, not to build, it was necessary to look for some other formats in order to preserve these channels . so on, but
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so that they can continue to work, mr. oleg, we have one and a half minutes, your reflection on this story, is it really because of the law on deoligarchization that rinat akhmetov is handing over licenses to the state, yes, on which tv channels actually carried out their broadcasting well, most likely, he transfers licenses for money, because if he becomes publicly and officially an oligarch, he will have large positions borrowed from the west, that is, in this case, money is a priority. is this the end? i think no . i do not think that his media empire will stop its work after the transfer of the license in favor of the state, there are many options for how it can continue its existence here, except that it can open new channels in poland that will be broadcast on ukraine through cable networks or through any international television platforms there, and in this
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way he will get out of the understanding of the norm of the law about the oligarch, so i think it will be very interesting. this will be another political series. contact us thank you andrii berkovskii oh, i'm sorry, i was thinking about another colleague of ours, it 's almost 6 p.m. our colleagues from radio svoboda will be working now. and khrestina yanskyi and i are saying goodbye to you, but not for long. we'll be working again soon. russia launched at least 19 missiles at mykolaiv , what is happening in the city, the armed forces of ukraine destroyed a warehouse with russian ammunition in nova kakhovka, hummers again
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