in it, which, as it became clear the other day, will take place in our country in the near future . businesswoman rinat akhmetova has started the procedures to stop publishing print media and cancel the license of the ukraine media group. goes to a meeting where is the oligarchization in our country, although he does not consider himself an oligarch and distances himself from the media business, but then they began to surface well, let's say , separate point understandings of what is happening, in particular in the sense of relocation, as far as we understand it now. maybe in the country of these media resources

diana, what is really happening with this holding, which, i want to note, is really a specific share of the entire information space in our country, well , really, i think this is the key news in the field of media in recent days, it will have a very serious impact on the media on the media landscape let's say that today, because there is no market now. it was destroyed by the war, in fact, that's why we will talk about the media landscape. after the war, i would talk about this event in the context of what will happen after the war? how do we see the media field after the war? historically, in ukraine

, the balance in the media field, plus pluralism in the media field, was ensured by due to the competition of these large media oligarchic groups, e.e., and actually the exit of one of the large groups actually means that this group disappears from the landscape. it seems to me. bad, because it is a very large group, it consists not only of tv channels, but also online media, and there used to be print media. and the actual closing of all projects , which is what scm declares - this will have serious , serious consequences for the market, which today there is, and you mentioned relocation to other

countries, well, at least yesterday, i saw additional clarifications from scm, it doesn't seem to me that they will relocate, it seems to me that we are now gradually closing all media projects, although i don't know, let's see how the situation unfolds, diana. i understand that, once again, based on the clarification , all assets, except for the license, remain in the company's ownership, and the licenses are returned . accordingly, these licenses will probably be granted to other broadcasters, correctly, i understand, well, probably according to the rules, the national council of students of television and radio broadcasting should

announce a competition for these frequencies. would apply to these frequencies now a large number of e-e regional tv channels first of all gave up their licenses because they e-e cannot speak through e-e the fact that they actually stopped operating - these are tv channels regional ones from those territories that are currently temporarily occupied, these are tv channels from regions where hostilities are active, and they simply cannot, for financial reasons, continue their activities, so i can’t imagine who would, under the current conditions, be able to apply for the competition for these frequencies is obvious, i can assume that these frequencies will be disposed of by the state, in what way, again, we will see ms. diana, somehow, very lively

, how did they react to me, er, this event, in particular, in the government, well, for the most part, er, before that as at least certain explanations were given. and what actually happened that was so wonderful in the sense of the state. if we are talking about the deletion or suspension of such a large media holding, despite its owner, despite its affiliation, it is still a large number of people , employees of journalists, a large number of well , the load, and well, there is a certain socially significant role, so i would like to say that the comments of the representatives of the authorities somewhat simplify the situation when the authorities say that they say it is for implementation of the law on oligarchization and oh how good it

is, well, on the one hand, there is part of the truth . of course, scm also says that it is on the implementation of this law, but the situation is complicated, that is, i would not talk about this event, because i already said at the beginning that it will have a very serious impact on the entire media landscape in ukraine and on the future media landscape that may be after the war, so again you correctly mentioned that this media holding is a huge number of people and now the question is what will happen with these people, do they get competition after they lose their job, and where will they find this job in the conditions in which we are today, because the media market has shrunk, cuts are taking place at different

levels, in different editorial offices, both central and and at the regional level, salaries are being reduced, i ca n't imagine where 4,000 people who will find themselves on the street can find work now. well, hello, dumping, first of all, as we understand it in a certain sense, well, it is so if we talk about the peculiarities of the financial provision of e-e media market, but here one more moment, many people compare the situation with this media group with the situation with e-e. i'm sorry, the nationalization of privatbank, yes, i don't know how correct it will be, but less so, they say, well, it's the same problem, most likely the state will have to uh, in order to get a more or less stable situation, to cover certain uh, let's say financial risks and uh, in this way, i don't know, um, this media holding will become state-owned there, for example, although scm

says that it's only about licenses well and exclusively about this, see here a very shaky field why because we have certain obligations to the european union within the framework of the association agreement, these obligations also concern the media sphere, and in these obligations it is clearly stated that ukraine must abandon state in recent years, ukraine has followed this path, passed the reform of denationalization, that is, a large number of authorities left the founders of state-owned media that were previously state-owned, and this was a very important process that was welcomed by european partners and uh, if we are now talking about nationalization, about returning to state media, this is very negative. i think it will be perceived

by our western partners. therefore, we must not forget about this moment, we are still moving towards the european union, and there is no need to artificially create any extra barriers that can hinder and get in the way of this movement, i would like to remind you that one of the requirements of the european union . when we were granted the status of a candidate, there was a law on the media, so that somehow all this regulate at the level of ukrainian legislation in accordance with european standards. and how do you see the law on media, taking into account the realities that currently exist in our country, you know? well, you know , an internal discussion has now begun in the expert environment in the environment of media public organizations about this law and there is such a vision that it is necessary to return to it and review it again because we have found ourselves in new realities and it is

obvious that this draft law, even criticized, is imperfect. in the current conditions, it needs more finalization and revision, and it is important to understand and it is important to find the correct procedural procedural steps. how to do it so as not to violate the regulations of the verkhovna rada and so on. that is, we need to go back to the text of this law and update it. this is a very important point. thank you for your work and for analyst diana dutsyk - member of the commission of journalistic ethics, executive director of the ukrainian institute of media and communication was in touch with us about the prospects of the media market in our country. hey, we talked. actually, while i have a minute, we don't have one until the next guest. i'll take the opportunity and provide information that we usually just don't

have time to provide you with. and these are the results of the work of the center for combating disinformation under the security and defense council. there, in fact, a list of fakes and manipulations resorted to by the russians in order to destabilize our internal state situation, as noted among the new spreading russian manipulations is the statement of the representative of the occupiers that the donetsk region should be included in part of the russian federation because it has its own flag and anthem, also the head of the ministry of foreign affairs of the temporarily occupied territories of the donetsk region, a so-called nikanorova, declared that the donetsk region will enter the glass of the ref as a republic because we have all the attributes and symbols, in addition, on july 13, russian propagandists spread fakes about the alleged the execution of a private for failure to comply with an order and this is really a propagandist's lie in reported that the

report of the commander of the karpatska sich battalion was found in the front line regarding the execution of a private for failure to comply with an order , given the large number of errors and of russianisms in the text of the report, one can come to the conclusion that the document itself is fabricated and the information in it does not correspond to reality and in the center they are citing another manipulation russia reports allegedly us military analyst scott ritter stated that the russian military is one of the best in the world and the us does not have an army that could wage a full-scale war in europe if joseph biden leads the country to a confrontation with the russians, the american army will lose because the roaring army is ready not only for battle, but also for victory . so she said the statements of the americans from the highest officials there, ex-officials, if we talk about trump's

injuries, i'm sorry, trump's injury, that's the excuse. if we talk about trump and his latest statements, the russians really like to reproduce it , distort it somewhat, necessarily add certain nuances when translate and use to your advantage well, we are moving on, i would like to remind you that yesterday the ministry of defense of turkey announced that the delegations of ukraine, russia, turkey and the un will meet in istanbul today to to talk about the unblocking of ukrainian grain and i cannot help reminding that literally the day before yesterday , the naval forces of the armed forces of ukraine reported that in connection with the deoccupation of the island of serpentine a-a in the mouth of the danube, a traffic

jam was actually formed. they came to load themselves with ukrainian grain and take it to where it should have been for a certain time, and we are really talking about successful developments, but we are talking about rivers , about completely regulating the situation in the black sea and it is still not discussed, it is very important what the delegations will agree on today in general, whether this contact will be successful , and our next guest is in touch with us, and this is serhiy danilov, deputy director of the center for middle eastern studies, mr. serhiy, we congratulate you glory to ukraine to the heroes of sala i congratulate you, i greet the audience , what is istanbul and the statement of the ministry of defense of turkey that the delegations of ukraine, russia, turkey and the un are to meet today to discuss the unblocking of ukrainian grain in the black sea ports. do you have any hopes for this meeting and

moreover, does it seem likely to you that it will take place at all? no, it seems realistic to me, to be honest, these negotiations, if they will take place at all, are correct in what they said . more bargains also for their own interests and it is very profitable to present themselves as a mediator as a peacemaker with even if nothing happens there, the process itself is more important than the result, so i am quite skeptical about the prospects of this victory and what do you think of turkey’s activity in this direction in general, as far as i ’m concerned, erdogan has a lot of contacts with the russian leadership , in which they constantly talk about the prospects, as they tell us, at least the export

of ukrainian grain from ukrainian ports, ah-ah, but uh-uh, somehow participation ukraine is not active in this process, or is it already an after-the-fact, erdogan, after talking with putin, has a conversation with ukrainian president zelensky, maybe these are just my observations, but nevertheless after all, turkey, its activity on the black sea and ukrainian grain, what is it, if it is sincerely , more than anything, it is determined by yordagan's ideas about turkish national interests and about his trade with putin, they have nothing to do with the export of ukrainian grain and our interests, and that's fine when they have their own interests. we have our own interests. all negotiations that take place without ukraine have no meaning for ukraine. they matter only so that we understand the position of turkey and what it is. is trying to trade with putin, in what way, in

what form, and in everything else, what are they talking about ? well, i think kyiv is of the least interest, because everything that is said without us has no meaning, no value for us. well, to be honest, it looks like what is being shared there is the skin of a bear that was not killed. that is, it is not even their grain, but they decide how they will take it out of our ports. this is what i am getting at. this is a slightly surreal situation for me, but less so, the interests of turkey can really understand because our trade with this country, if we talk about food in particular, it is quite significant. and they have always been interested in our grain and our oil, which is important, and this is actually an inexhaustible list of various such products. putin intends to meet with the presidents of turkey, as we

have already mentioned, and with the president of iran, this should happen on july 19. literally yesterday, there was information that iran and russia may enter into negotiations on the negotiations on the handover from iran to russia quite powerful, most likely unmanned aerial vehicles in a noticeable number of several hundreds, but uh, they agreed on some kind of conscious understanding or not, i still do not see in the information field, they say that there was a statement of the ministry of foreign affairs, in particular, and early. that it is not about this but i'm looking for it. it's still necessary. in your opinion, putin is trying to find some way out , in particular where he doesn't have it yet. they're putting too much pressure, in particular, with sanctions and restrictions and a consolidated position, then he's trying to form the coalition and drag it all into his coalition, this is

all happening against the background of biden's visit to the middle east, which began today, in the program of which israel and saudi arabia, there are very important negotiations in saudi arabia in the council regarding the iranian nuclear program regarding the supply of weapons to saudi arabia and the main thing about the saudi readiness to replace the oil market and shift it in the future is that russia will not be able to supply the european world markets in order to prevent a price shock and the iranians in this situations, they play chess on many boards, they are generally masters, they have a really good unmanned program, especially for the regional level, they really demonstrated it already and the firms, and the most important thing in saudi arabia, when the frame, well , the largest single or the largest oil company, a

world-class giant, oil gyurza, saudi for a month or even a little more, as i remember. in the 19th year, it was forced to stop the export of oil due to an attack by a cloud of iranian-made drones under the leadership of iranian of the military from the yemeni side, there were attack drones, there were drones in the mikadze, yes, i think the iranians are playing and these statements about jake sullivan, the national security adviser of the us president, about the american about iran's readiness to hand over drones - this is part of this game and immediately dangerous the vinegar of its positioning of the parties is happening now, the internationalization

of russia's invasion of ukraine, it is already happening, in one way or another, from different countries to one degree or another begin to harass one of the two sides and iran is an attempt, not an attempt, we don’t know. i don’t believe that they will supply, to be honest. but to play blackmail, to scare biden because in their drones can change the balance of the game, the balance on the battlefield, they will, but we will see and a lot will depend on the fact that russia can offer early in russia, we need a way out. more likely, not a way out. but a loophole through which it will be possible to replace critical exports for the military-industrial complex under sanctions, for example, what are we looking for putin, he is looking for this loophole, iran in this

sensei is a rather convenient partner. well, at the same time, our military analysts noted that thanks to and even if it happens to an iranian drone , russia will still not have unmanned advantages in the ukrainian sky because, uh, they say, those unmanned aerial vehicles that are currently on the weapons of the armed forces of ukraine are more promising and their strong models, let's say, which are in iran's arsenal, iran will keep for itself for its own needs because they also have certain interests in the region in particular periodically, it is necessary to defend iran militarily, as you think, please tell mr. serhiy, if we are talking about biden and his visit to the middle east, various media

wrote, in particular, the new york times was the first to write about it, that biden would seek some soviet weapons for ukraine. are these weapons available in what quantity ? they can be in the middle east and what are the prospects for us to really get them through the united states, that is, the article caused me a misunderstanding. they did not mean to leave, it is difficult to comment on it in the middle east there are certain stocks of soviet , russian and ukrainian weapons, it is unlikely that they are suitable for use to the extent that we need both in terms of volume and quality, the near east has long reoriented itself towards american weapons who did not reorient themselves to use individual samples of e-e, mainly russian weapons

, they will not be transferred to us, so i do not know what they are talking about. it was about the proximity of saudi arabia in general, one of the tasks that it sets before itself on against the background of biden's visit is the unblocking of american arms exports to saudi arabia. in the first months of his presidency, biden blocked the export of shock weapons to saudi arabia in connection with the violation of human rights and the murder of a saudi journalist. money in turkey in the saudi embassy. this visit should return the countries' relations to to the level to this incident firstly secondly himself children really want shock weapons in a sense we are even competitors today the same kinds of narrative american i thank you for the analysis in this part of our broadcast

, which concerns er and the middle east in general and ukrainian interests and the activity of the united states, and having the opportunity to speak with you, of course i cannot er not ask you in a certain way er i do not know how to voice the information you have from the occupied territories, because you are monitoring the situation in particular in the kherson region and, if i am not mistaken, in the occupied crimea as well in kherson in the kherson region, and they continue to explode periodically. people of kherson who, despite the fact that they understand that this is a dangerous situation, are still happy because the armed forces of ukraine are working, and this is just incredible feedback from people who have been in the country for a long time. at the same time, we understand that a large number of people from kherson

are subject to repression - and for various reasons and motives, what is the situation in the occupied kherson oblast, as of now, the depression continues. i learn every day about people i know who continue to disappear, that is, after a couple of days , it comes out. here they ask, we are sitting there for a week. someone is disappearing and the mass is not decreasing. we have become more rabid, they have gained more information and are under attack from everyone who has social capital, social status, who has any positions. as a result of these latest repressions , emigration, which is becoming more and more expensive, is more difficult, the region is being depopulated from one side to the other . on the side, diction is spreading, people are desperate,

especially in rural areas, they are starting to drink more alcohol, and the russian military occupiers are drinking, our citizens are desperate from uncontrolled sale of alcohol at any time , their efforts to prepare for a taxed referendum have been significantly intensified, pressure on teachers, doctors, pensioners so that everyone accepts russian citizenship, teachers are even kidnapped by threats and intimidation of people. despite this, in kherson, such only two schools, only two principals agreed to switch to the russian program despite all the pressure , teachers are intimidated by the fact that they will not be able to leave because there are lists at the checkpoints, they will be turned around back and if they try to leave, they will be detained, they

intimidate entrepreneurs and, in general, the owners of some kind of real estate with the fact that everything that is not re-registered will be confiscated and nationalized , as they say. and for this procedure, they demand the acquisition of the so-called citizenship of their russian. well, this is all the pressure it continues and the situation continues to deteriorate. but after each attack by the armed forces of ukraine on objects, new postcards appear, new graffiti inscriptions have already stopped even on postcards in the form of print, write by hand everywhere or draw , periodically we see these information for the enemy, yes , companies that are carried out by local partisans, just the local population, uh, today i had the opportunity to speak with volodymyr molchanov, whom i asked about, well

, his impression of the special operation that the gur carried out deep in the enemy's rear after freeing several ukrainian military policemen, if i am not mistaken, and that civilians were there, and he remarked that it was really a brilliant special operation for the reason that it was a prison of secret torture apparently there are enough of them in the kherson region , and the most interesting thing is that the residents of the region themselves, well, they don’t know about them, they don’t know where they are, and they probably don’t know about their number. tell me, do you have an understanding of how many similar pseudo -types there can be in institutions, uh, where they can ukrainian citizens are located, judging by the level of repression. all these people are kidnapped in the kherson region. well, stanislaus, in the wide

baltic , it’s not the right bank of the kherson region. villages and all of them. practically all the adult male population. well, teenagers too. novikov was detained. they set up such improvised prisons of the medieval headquarters where people were kept there from two days to a week in terrible warehouse conditions. they killed us and then released them. this is called prevention well , suddenly they will tell something, the main thing is to intimidate and make it clear that any voice against will be punished . well, that's the type of places like this. well, in almost every one. finally, the authorities call on serhiy to evacuate in any of the directions from the local kherson region