tv [untitled] July 13, 2022 10:00pm-10:30pm EEST
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those who are currently in the occupied territories and in particular in the kherson region must understand that we do everything and the soldiers do not appreciate this uh, they don't uh, they are performing their lives in order to free them , so they should understand this hmm help us as much as possible partly because this territory, which is currently occupied, must definitely return under the control of ukraine and under the armed forces of ukraine, and we are now doing everything politicians, well, those who have a silent command and all the others fight for it and they are doing the maximum possible in order to do this thank you colonel it was a novel kostenko colonel sbu people's deputy of ukraine who is fighting in the south of ukraine and we are joined by another officer of the special forces battalion of the armed
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forces of ukraine major of the armed forces of ukraine igor lapin p igor good day good health i'm glad to see you on the air. i wish you good health. let's start a conversation with you on m. hymersu with what the enemy has been receiving during the last week. we have already talked with roman kostenko about the east and the south. and how warehouses are burning there, how does this change the operational situation at the front? well, i don't think it will be a big secret for anyone that, in principle, at the beginning of the war, when the russian invasion just began, the main task of our units, which were located, let's say, had the opportunity to enter the enemy's rear, was the destruction of their communications the destruction of fuel stations in order that, as they say, the armor had nothing to ride on, well, that’s the case, in short, today, nothing has changed, and the destruction of communications about the enemy, let’s say that in the rear
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in their rear, this is the number one task that we can perform thanks to, well, the high-precision weapons against which today in russia well, let's say so, er. there is no air defense, air defense means, no air defense against them. well, you know, i remember very well, as it were, near popasna, when one of my water-based tanks could put from one thousand to one and a half thousand large-caliber shells in a day, and the military understood what it was about and the infantry actually survived in the ground, let's say so the absence of shells from the enemy is, well, it’s a relief for those who are in the trenches today. as they say, they are gnawing at the land of ukraine and
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do not allow the enemy to go further. the composition of their reserve units in general, the destruction of their logistics. well, i think that this task is enough. such a successfully completed task can give the military personnel who are on the front lines a chance to rest from shelling and in at the same time, carry out some contour offensive actions , because when the russian artillery does not work, the russian soldier does not rush to kill. well, i am telling you this from experience. on july 20, there will be a meeting, another meeting in the rammstein format. we remember that two meetings took place in april and may after it was decided that uh, 40 countries that represented the minister of defense joined the so-called anti- putin coalition. and they said that for them it was a matter of honor for russia to lose in the russian-ukrainian war. what to expect from the next
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meeting, well, considering how ukraine is being filled with weapons from the west and the united states of america, great britain and germany and poland, many countries supply us with weapons, which can be decisive in this other and how much this meeting can speed up the fall of the russian power and the russian regime which now putin is at the head. well, it is not a secret for anyone that the war contains several directions, yes. that is, we know that there is an information war on the information front, there is a physical confrontation between the armed forces of ukraine and the russian invaders, and there is an economic war . which the whole civilized world joined and here in the second option, well, there can be no other moments. and it is precisely in the context of all these meetings that i believe that several
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directions will be resolved, one of the directions, in my deep conviction, should be resolved the direction that we need weapons not only for survival, not only for defense, but also for carrying out offensive actions of some kind, etc. and for this, we need to completely reformat the weapons themselves, that is, what we need more today, which mechanisms e-e means and so on, this applies to e-e such a military unit, if we talk about the issue of the anti-putin coalition, the number of those countries. i believe that they are the ones that joined it. it should be expanded because, well, forever supplying weapons is one story. if we are talking about the political destruction of the aggressor state, then i believe that only the parade of republics within russia can speed up the reduction of putin's ambitions and perhaps even his sudden departure from power there,
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it does not matter how it will happen or will it happen with the usual palace coups for russia or will it happen at other moments, this is the very mechanism that will be worked out at this moment, i think it will not be of great importance in the context. therefore, it does not matter to us, let's say how putin will disappear from the leadership of russia and how the operator of the republics inside russia will take place, therefore, i believe that such issues should also be discussed at this meeting in the context of the anti-putin coalition. well, what about sanctions and other economic issues which we are fighting today and the whole civilized world opposes the russians eh i believe that it is necessary to make it impossible to bypass sanctions on the part of our countries, what other friends who did not join the coalition or other countries who still today think that
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putin's right-wing cause is possible, well, for today it is a war of civilizations. this is a war of autocratic regimes against democracy, and today ukraine acts as an outpost defender of the say yes democracy of the world and human values of the civilizational choice of ukrainians that we made in the 14th year, mr. igor, there is another important issue that we are discussing in the context of what is happening in the east and the south. this is the question of the future or the current northern front of ukraine. this front still exists . maybe it is in a slightly different situation than the eastern and southern fronts, but we we have there the self-proclaimed president lukashenka, who literally yesterday announced that the west is going to fight russia with belarus and that the west will pave, say, these ways to fight the
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russian federation through belarus and ukraine and he mentioned the second world war and talked about the fact that there is now a hybrid war against belarus, about the fact that the allies of zadekabai and the cis are taking a waiting position with the word "let's listen to lukashenka and then talk about what is being done in belarus because it is also very important. i remember how in december and november 2021, you repeatedly spoke on tv about this front that will arise in ukraine, it will certainly arise, and it turned out that on the 24th we were not ready for this front . but first, lukashenko."
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at the same time there is a demand for raskalot economic political unions in which belarus is a part of russia, massive pressure has led to the fact that, unfortunately, some of our allies in the csto and the cis are taking a caustic position, to put it mildly , but at the same time, the political status of belarus has not wavered. we maintain a dialogue with countries that respect our opinion and our interests. how lukashenko is somehow trying to avoid a direct confrontation between the belarusian army and the ukrainians. although we do not rule out that in the first days of the war , belarusians were also in those ranks that marched against ukraine well, at least you know for sure, because you fought in gostomel and you can say whether the belarusians were
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in the territory of ukraine, whether they entered or not, maybe you know more, but not now, we see how er air alarms are quite frequent in volynska rivneska er khmelnytskyi lviv oblast because airplanes take off from airfields in belarus there are russian airplanes to what extent does lukashenko manage his state to what extent is he responsible for what he says and is he simply being used by putin and from him in general, nothing depends on it and there was no one to listen to it because the approval center is located in one city in the city of moscow, well, look, first of all, i would like to say that i will investigate lukashenko, i am recovering quite seriously in the context that they are aimed at preparing the own consumer with their own the consumers of information from lukashenka are precisely those security forces on which
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vlad lukashenko hangs on, the fact that he is on a tightrope today and tries to weave between putin's threats and the realities that await him if he will he still make this attempt let's say so more openly and not so covertly as at the beginning of the invasion i mean not so covertly as it was on february 24th i think he is trying to balance i have, let's say, such a great understanding of there are many acquaintances who live in the territory of belarus with whom i have the opportunity to communicate. well, there, of course, they speak in their own language, so as not to be too suspicious, they say that the belarusians are not ready to fight and die for putin, er, lukashenko is trying to convince belarusians in that the question is not putin, but the question is that there is a threat
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to belarus itself, to them, etc. furthermore, this situation reminds me, well, this option is that lukashenko still understands that he has sent loyal security forces who are sitting on a good salary to die in ukraine . territory of belarus because the hatred towards him is quite high and we want to. i want to remind everyone that lukashenka's real rating is not the one he drew for himself in the elections and we all understand that. the question is how it will end, whether it will go or not. well, i i believe that he will go because he is afraid of being shot, or maybe there are other blackmail things that putin can use against him, well, it can happen, well, quite quickly, and let's put it this way, i don't know how he
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will behave as a man, but to save his own skin, he can do it on the other hand the question of re-revolution or the question of physical destruction as a result of hostilities for lukashenka today it is more distant and being executed on putin's order is a closer result what awaits him, so it seems to me that he will still go the question is how much they ready, well, let's say so, look. today we are fighting against one of the largest armies in the world, let's put the numbers that we were told there: 140,000 or 160,000 russians are standing on our borders, plus the grouping there of the ldnr, the so-called those that's a plus there in crimea and so on. that is, we remember these figures for today, let's look at the state of affairs of the armed forces of belarus, well, there are certain special forces there, these may be amon security forces. well, they don't mind. in the army, they were preparing to fight, so i have great doubts that they won't be able to fight
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fully. but i doubt that they will do it, but if the brothers, in terms of the number of personnel , even the composition, they are the only thing they are doing, they are seriously constraining our forces on the northern border . let's not forget that the 2,000 km border with russia and 1000 km from the border with belarus, we have to keep a full-fledged grouping of our troops on this territory, and thus we cannot help with the necessary amount of resources, for example, we cannot help thousands of guys on the don there, somewhere in kharkiv oblast and so on because we are connected to this situation, will they be belarusians disguised as russians dressed in belarusian uniforms, here is the question for me more acutely why? to do this for them is not the first time. we remember that for them this is a change of clothes, they have always been there and, in
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principle, did not go anywhere, therefore, in this situation, i would pay attention to the directions that i voiced. well, of course, we remember how under during the second world war, the soviet army disguised itself as opivites and tried to destroy the local population, and then they talked about the fact that you look at the people of bandera, what they are doing, but in the situation with the belarusians , the reaction of the belarusian society is obviously very important, we know that the belarusians, after all, if they now they can clearly articulate in public their disagreement with the russian federation, after all, it is a completely different people, in this situation it will happen that the army that will go to ukraine will then simply turn around and go to lukashenko, the army will not turn around, the army can only run away, turn around, it is unlikely because a military machine can't do that, but from this
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minute they marched against the ukrainians, they gave them diarrhea, they turned around and went to fight against those who sent them there, well, first of all, those who receive nosiv in general will no longer fight, and those who have not yet they got diarrhea, it doesn't make sense to have a good salary, i'm talking about the belarusian security forces and you are against the one who feeds them, that's why i have a big doubt well, once again, let's still be realistic, the question of entering or not entering seems to me that it is for lukashenka is solved, he just doesn't know how to do it, but the question is how seriously it will harm us. how quickly will you deal with them? this is a slightly different question, so i don't have a question about whether he will go to belarus, i have a question about how deep they will be able to go and how faithfully will we react and will we not ignore the obvious things that you and i talked about on the air in december and january of 22 and in december of 21 that i always said that the main attack would take place without kyiv, putin is not interested in anything and
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he can go to kyiv from the top of belarus. and that's how it all happened, and he shouted on all the airs that the teteriv river. we belarusians will not leave belarus. well, nothing they will go, well, he drove 100,000 here, why look at them, well, in order to go the same way today, here are all the training sessions of course, this is all blackmail on the part of lukashenka, he could, in principle, achieve the point that everything would be forgiven him. if he turned around today, he would say to putin vova good well, for example , today the members of the dkb did, yes, that is, but the point is that the power of putin's troops is already enough for him. well, lukashenko cannot resist the russian troops that are based on his territory today, yes, that is, if he he will say no well, there are a lot of troops, it is clear that it is
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not profitable for putin to fight on two fronts, but it would be more profitable for lukashenko in this situation, i think because europe is tolerant, europe would forgive him many sins, ukrainians are unlikely, but lukashenko himself for sure security would have been ensured if today he would have said no to putin and that's all. and let's go. and finally , literally one thesis. well, if lukashenko thinks that the war will only be on the territory of ukraine. well, why are they all so naive? i don't know. well, come on. take a look to belgorod, and let him look at his brain, well, their main source of income today is from the gas-dependent industry, which is called fertilizer, what they do, and it's moselle, and it's also a couple of thermal power plants that provide electricity. well, let's see how far it can fly here won't make it and what will he do, especially after that, if your troops already enter and we
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start beating them? well, we won't stop already, the truth is, we'll finish it off. why should we wait for him already ? that well, this is not serious, so i emphasize once again, in my deep conviction, for lukashenka, the card is already open, he just does not know how to steamroll it so that while the troops are busy in ukraine, so that he is not demolished in belarus, this is his only moment, and putin does not give him security guarantees well, it seems to me that it would be better for him to play today with european partners who can establish some kind of security, because putin will simply finish him, whether today or tomorrow he will use him, he will finish everything, well, you know, the situation is a little reminiscent november 2013, when yanukovych flew to china and then flew to sochi, and where he had a conversation with putin , and putin said something to him there, well, he obviously said that vitya will be the end of you after that if you go to the european union, and yanukovych has no other way out, as you can see in
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lukashenko, who has accumulated loans in the russian federation, understands that he simply cannot live without russian gas and oil, but on the other hand, when he talks about the fact that the allies of the csto and the cis are taking a wait-and-see position, what is this about indicates that both lukashenko and putin obviously counted on the fact that one way or another the odkb would go to war against ukraine, of course, there you can compare it with the russian army. the members of the central bureau of investigation cannot be counted in terms of numbers, maybe in terms of weapons, but still, they are obviously wanted such a big war of the soviet union against ukraine and to provoke us to strike at our strikes there on belarus or on russia would mean that the troops of the soviet union should have entered the territory of ukraine defending by analogy according to the famous fifth
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amendment or the fifth point about nato, why? kb was afraid. why don't they not support putin? they still believe that putin will end this war with a defeat. well, look at my deep conviction. there is no point in supporting putin, even for putin himself. it was only necessary in the political in the context of the moment when he started his war against ukraine, i am talking about the last, this hot phase, i am not talking about the 14th year and so on, but at that moment he needed a dekab for political recognition that it was a lot of countries that it collectively, that is, you know. well, no the whole thing is to take away, well, to share that electric chair a little with other presidents of other members of the odkb. and here the question is that, besides this political support and
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the military sense of the odkb, of course it could harm us quite seriously, because it 's tanks again, it's artillery, it's artillery, it 's another thing, plus even soldiers, no matter how many there are, well, we have to fight with them too, that's why i say, but for putin, the moment he believed that he would achieve everything with the blitzkrieg and there if anything the political dcb still supports him in general. well , now let's recall that the dcb supported putin. let's recall the statements that were made at the beginning of this aggression, so they didn't say openly that we're going to fix everything here, but they tolerated these processes, so to speak, it was later, when we gave how they say in the face in february and in march when the first wave of the most professional e-e paratroopers and equipment and so on we knocked out thanks to the volunteers thanks to the patriots with molotov cocktails i emphasize once again that they were looking for the whole beginning war, all the volunteers were looking for weapons, you understand, that is,
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this is exactly me, that is, to this day. it confuses me very much that president zelenskyy called on someone with weapons in his hands to stand up for the defense of the motherland, he called on he called that weapons were not distributed, no well, they were distributed somewhere when it was already hot, when it was already in obolon with bases they threw those weapons out into the street so that only the men would take them and go against the russians. but that could have been done while preparing for war, not like people were dying with cocktails, well, now it’s not about the tep, now if we’re talking about the dcb, i emphasize to putin once again political recognition is needed today, he does not shake hands, let's see the situation with lavrov, who went there to the summit, let's see with a possible invitation, not an invitation of putin to the g20, and so on, that is, all this is already an outcast , now today the country becomes an outcast if lukashenko well, if luka wants to be he's also an outcast, of course . he's playing. well, today he's leaving behind that bridge that if suddenly he doesn't have any options, he
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could betray putin at any moment and not get a bullet in the back of the head. well, that's what i'll say now. because putin is a plum and let's remember those er-er these families of sk- violinists er-er the same there and other executions that were done demonstrably by russian agents and so on in the world of mass poisoning and so on, that is, all objectionable russians always destroyed well, lukashenko leaves this moment to himself, and the rest of the members of the odkb, they are not so immersed in helping putin that today they have this amount of time and money for statements is quite large, thank you, thank you, mr. igor, we must complete our program. this was igor lapin, major of the armed forces of ukraine a special agent is an officer of a special purpose battalion of the armed forces of ukraine. this was a program, the verdict was conducted by serhiy rudenko. goodbye, we are
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looking for 17-year-old elizaveta aloshyna, whose fate has been unknown for almost three months. lyman is the kramatorsk district of the donetsk region, the first two months of the war there were more or less calm and elizaveta even regularly joined online broadcasts for training in the last contacted on april 25, and on that very day she told very disturbing news, she said that enemy shells started flying over their house and she was very scared, and the next day she lost contact with the girl and until today there is no news from her, the city of lyman is now occupied with rashists and misses that they can deliberately jam the connection, maybe that's why elizaveta can't call or write, so i
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'm asking especially the residents of the kramatorsk district, who might be seeing me now, look carefully at the photo of the girl. she wears glasses, they are dark eyes and short dark hair. elizaveta is thin , her height is approximately 160 cm. if anyone has seen the girl after april 25 or knows where she may be, do not delay, dial the short number of the magnolia child tracing service from any mobile operator, 116,000,000 calls to the hotline are free or write to the chat bot of the child search service in telegram another story of the disappearance of children, this time in the kharkiv region. i have already told in previous programs about 13-year-old melania chumak and her 16-year-old brother ivana's mother is looking for them, who hasn't heard from her little one for more than a month and doesn't know what's going on with the children. now it just so
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happened that melania's and ivan's parents divorced and have been living separately for a long time. the mother lives in poltava oblast, and the father lives in kharkiv oblast. when the war started, the children were with him. in this small village of lisna stinka, this is the kupyan district of the region, which was occupied in the first days of the full-scale invasion of russia, they are now completely occupied, there is no possibility to conduct an evacuation, it is too dangerous the mother of the children said that melania and ivan called periodically the last time the woman talked to them on may 19 at 8 a.m. she says they talked for 10 minutes and everything was more or less okay. and then after may 19, contact with the children suddenly disappeared. just imagine. how is it for a mother not to know what's wrong with your little one, where she is now or what's going on with her? are the children sitting in the basement under fire or are they
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safe ? told about the situation in region and here i received feedback from the chatbot service for searching for children in a telegram, a woman wrote to us who very recently managed to leave there and knows about the situation in the occupied area, of course i called back and received very encouraging information techno wall is a very familiar region for me i am from there in kupyansk, the village of novosti is not so far away from the parents, and there is no shelling there. it is simply an occupation there, and i think that there is simply no communication there . and it breaks through very rarely, and that is why i would like , perhaps, this information to calm down a mother who is looking for children, there are problems with communication, and i think this information can at least calm them down a little,
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but there are problems with communication, maybe that is why the mother does not can call the children. thank you for the information, but of course i want more specifics, so i am asking the residents of the occupied forest wall and the surrounding villages who may see me now. look carefully at the photo. 13-year-old melania chumak looks her age, she has dark eyes and light ivan has brown hair, dark eyes and brown hair , and he looks 16-17 years old, the children live in the village of lisna stynka, lisna street, house 5, if someone can visit them and check if everything is ok with them, or if anyone has seen them, call us at the tracing service magnolia children by the short number 116 000 000 from any mobile phone, calls are free or write to the chatbot service for searching for children in telegram, even a little news that everything is fine with melania and ivan will greatly reassure their mother greetings dear tv viewers my name is
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vasyl zima, this is a program of worldviews and today we will talk about important worldview things and also discuss what happened and, so to speak, we will understand what is happening and we will think about how it will continue to reflect and dive a little into ourselves to know where we are and what we need to do with us today, ivan semesyuk, artist, writer, poet, musician, cultural figure, author of media projects and volunteer, mr. ivanei, i congratulate you, i congratulate you, hello, i can't hear you yet. now we will do everything to hear
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