from the weapons of ukraine, nato, the eu. there, the usa and this one are also called the western world and china, india, brazil were the same, this is what happened to russia, before russia, it would not have been able to wage this war . we have to wait for them to be moral. some uh, these are all their leaders and countries, we need to step up and strengthen our work with the ministry of foreign affairs, this is being done. but we need to do even more. every day there should be a package or a package of documents sent by email about russian crimes in ukraine in many countries first of all, the positions of ambassadors in china should be filled. in india, we don't have an ambassador, that is, there must be constant media activity, information transmission activity,

that is, if it is not possible. in europe there are such services in friendly countries. well, so that partner countries have such services. but in these countries, for some reason, we do not conduct an active policy there. it was not more difficult for these countries to take such a, well, conditionally, as they say, neutral position, that is, they, i believe that with this position they are now really helping putin, therefore, i agree with you that it is absolutely necessary to strengthen the work around the world in order to have at least a non-perception well, further such actions, as we have seen recently, the panoveries regarding military aid to ukraine will meet on the 20th. yes, if i am not mistaken, rammstein, you mentioned this online in the

video conference mode, it will take place on what the agenda of this meeting, what help will ukraine count on after this meeting is held, maybe just to strengthen air defense. well, about the american land forest and 40 billion e-e dollars from the us congress, when it will start, what is the supply of kymerians , as i understand it, not yet lend-lease, when will this big program start, can we expect the supply of weapons from the usa, please, i will start with lend-lease , bald lisa, the situation is like this, as far as i know, well, nothing pauline lisa, there was nothing more than that there a certain plan is needed, which the administration writes out and they continue to act on it, and as far as i know , the agreement between the usa and ukraine has not been signed either . that is, i don’t know why this is not being done regarding the fact that the supply is pelendilized, then it is not so it is absolutely important because they go according to

the allocated funds, which have already been allocated, that is, there are purchases and essentially free supplies to us at the expense of american taxpayers, an explanation that the landlist does not work. because they want to give it to ukraine for free, but english is provided there some kind of payment. to be honest, this is an explanation for me. well, it’s quite strange today, maybe they really want to use these funds, so to speak, until september, because there from october 1, unlike here, but in america from october 1, the next year is budgeted, that is, if the funds if you don't spend these until october 1, then they are actually well, you just didn't have time, and that's why this is the explanation of the americans . well, we'll look further, but you understand that it's important that they have the resources for this continuous supply, today, while yesterday, the house of representatives adopted a billion in the military budget

indeed, the increase is significant, so that it was clear that there was always 250 million, somewhere they allocate a billion now, they accepted it. and the main thing is that there are programs of 100 million for training pilots, that is, ukrainian, it is clear that this is in 16-15-18, that is, it is simply already clear that it will definitely happen and the study is clear for what yes that is, it is not just studying to get a diploma even before october 1, there is very little time. that is, we will already use this money in the next budget lesson to master the american ones. no, we have plenty of them. well, i where do they spend if i don't see here are the questions, where should we spend them now, so that they spend these funds, well, quickly on missiles, i think the time has come for missiles, er, 140 dashes with

a range of 300 km, so-called missile attacks that the hymers can use. that is, i don't see any questions why we they will not give the missiles that pushed the same boats or submarines or well, rather , the ships that shoot at us with the same calibers as in vinnytsia, why can't we have such missiles? this is not about, in principle, not about moscow . to push them away further there for 300 km, eventually stop. i don't know how far it is possible from a military point of view, but the fact that deadly weapons for us are constantly being supplied through the crimean bridge and they will kill our people in mykolaiv , that is, they kill there, they kill them, unlike vinnytsia look at what is being done in kharkiv, mykolaiv , they just hit the system, er, tornado, that is, with such systems, it's just that, it's not that low. it's true that weapons

are weapons against people. they just hit people and there i'll just tell you, i'll remind you, do you remember that i had a fan, how the plane was shot down, the wreckage, that 's what other elements are doing, why don't they give your opinion ? did they give or maybe on the 20th they will give more powerfully on this already regular one? well, you know, i also have emotions about this, why don't they give at first ? there are no more like there were previously, now there is a question not only of logistics, there is a question of the production of warheads for these

weapons, no one even in the usa was preparing for such a large-scale war, for example, joseph biden traveled in veran well, now he expressed himself and said that he would also oppose iran's nuclear program by force means, they said there about the protection of ivaniv. that is, you understand that even here the americans cannot expose everything that they have. all the calves, but there are more europeans. finally, what i expect is that they will finally unblock the supply. i don’t understand why you can’t tanks and these tanks can come from spain. i hope i received such a 113 from portugal. i hope that they will finally remove this political taboo on airplanes there, maybe it will be a good summary specifically about airplanes. i understand that you briefly mentioned that ukrainian pilots will be trained in the states not at 16, i understand correctly, and this issue has already been resolved

, that is, these planes will arrive in ukraine, if there is finally training, then it will eventually end with the use of planes on the one hand , and so we will have to change them, because we have everything what is uh was calculated somewhere before 2000. well, the maximum there was in the 35th year, and that was earlier, that is, really earlier, the biggest part of that even so needs to be changed. that is why it is. well, the fact that it was not done right away. unfortunately, it took time for us. i am sure that planes will be provided to us and without this, well, there can be no solution to the question of occupation and peace. if farmers are doing this now, in principle , planes and a diplomat should do it. extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine to the states 15-19 years old. thank you for commenting on our broadcast. important uh

m.m. affairs, in particular diplomatic and international, we are waiting for the meeting on the 20th in the rammstein format, we hope that there will be decisions that are important for us, er, serhii rahmanin, and we should already have a people's deputy of ukraine and a member of the verkhovna rada committee on national security with us of defense and intelligence, we welcome you, mr. serhii. congratulations, iryna fries is also with us. people's deputy of ukraine, member of the committee on anti-corruption policy, ms. iryna. good health. good morning. good afternoon. we can't see you, but we already hear you, mr. serhii. yes let's continue the topic. we talked with mr. valery chaly that, unfortunately, the lend-lease has not worked yet, that is, the supplies that are available are not part of the big program that the americans promised us for 40 billion dollars, when can these supplies start ? well, i don't know what mr. valery said. and he can just say, what i know

, unfortunately, there are certain problems with the large-scale supply of weapons, and there are several reasons, the first of which is still unexpected. ukraine does not need as much as we would like, and as it seemed to everyone, including the leaders of nato countries, in fact, no one particularly prepared for the great war, and such things as a salvo fire system, as self-propelled artillery, as long-range artillery mounted on it, in fact, there are not so many samples of these weapons as we would like it, and in some countries it is measured in tens or even in the best case hundreds of units, they are not able to provide them because they also have certain problems and defense needs, and the second reason is that for example, they are not in sufficient working condition, well, it is no secret for you that

a huge number of countries have not actually been arming themselves in recent years, but were disarming , reducing their armed forces, reducing defense spending and reducing the number of weapons by selling them to third world countries, with the exception of the united states of america but there is a somewhat more complicated history. i think there are no secrets for you. the history of taiwan is complicated enough. a partner and an ally feel the difference and that is why the united states is not able to provide a large number due to objective reasons, the second reason why this process slows down, it slows down after all because of certain political reservations, in particular, this applies to the countries of europe, some of them still do not feel the full threat of this war and still, the risk is not much for russia, it does not affect russia as significantly as at the beginning of the war, when this

psychological breakdown had already taken place, but still, the same berlin, everything that looks back at russia, without saying already about such countries as, for example, greece or israel, which for certain reasons do not want to spoil relations with the russians, and such countries, for example, portugal, or what rights they do not understand at all. where is this, what is it about, well, objectively , it is infinitely far from them. unfortunately, there are also fears, there are warnings that the weapons that will arrive are especially very expensive, very complicated, they will not be used effectively, or they will fall into the hands of the russians, i will not say that these are mass warnings, but they exist and that is why every time when it comes to the transfer to ukraine of some very complex weapon system, especially expensive , that is, our partners are trying to understand whether the personnel is sufficiently trained or

effective enough. reached the volumes that ukraine needs well, but there are other concerns, at least they are publicly voiced, in particular, altayms and some european american politicians say that weapons can get into the hands of terrorists in other countries, in syria, for example, or in other countries where there is unrest, and since yesterday, the day before valery zaluzhnye himself commented on this situation, he said that ukraine controls, well, every barrel that actually got into ukraine and he will not get involved with any terrorists, and yesterday the head of the president's office andriy yarmak suggested to you people's deputies to create a temporary special investigative commission that will deal with the preparation and consideration of issues related to the control over the use of weapons received from our partners. he wrote about this in a telegram to ms. iryna. how do you feel about the idea of ​​creating such a tsc? you know

democratic parliamentary control, which is effective enough in developed democracies. i don't i can say that the democratic parliamentary control in ukraine is quite effective and in this context the creation of the tsc where there is a monomajority where in principle the institution mechanism of, say, the tsc was somewhat discredited when they were formed exclusively from representatives of one faction, from a formal point of view - this is absolutely correct, absolutely logical, if it was still in peacetime, it would be directly supported today, from my point of view, the most effective would be the creation of a corresponding board from representatives of the countries that provide us with weapons under the ministry of defense or under

to the general staff in order to be able to carefully monitor and track the use of our provision of high-precision weapons to us, and after their use by our armed forces, supplies increase , and this is actually a very good signal that nothing is used, or, relatively speaking, nothing is lost, what is put into service with our armed forces of ukraine, so you and i must be vigilant, formal and democratic controls can be used, they will not interfere with anyone, will they be effective and high-quality questimark but at the same time, i am sure that the creation of the appropriate board, as it is from the countries that supply us with weapons and probably from the developers of these weapons, because

they can track the way their e-e weapon works is the most effective mecha and created. it should be either at the ministry of defense or at the general staff directly. and for you, this article was surprising news. she is sure that the altayms are talking about the fact that in the scene they seem to be afraid of arms smuggling to europe and want to strengthen control over it, and let's take turns a-a first. whenever there is a large-scale military operation, a certain part of the weapons can fall into the hands of illegal arms dealers, and therefore if you trace any recent war , even a small one, not intensively, for example, the russian georgian war, even then they wrote about the fact that some of the weapons that, for example, were provided to the georgian army and by western partners, got into the black market and in fact the risk is such because, i emphasize, when it comes to

simple weapons systems, or rather weapons that are provided in large quantities, theoretically, which part of them can be lost, captured and theoretically, it can get on the black market, this is not excluded. well, for example, when it comes to such things as anti-tank missiles, manpads or mines, for example, it exists in any war, there are always in-cases, if something is supplied in large quantities, there are intensive hostilities, theoretically, some part is insignificant can fall into the hands of illegal traders, you can be sold, but this is the second thing if we are talking about large complex systems well, for example , towed artillery systems, self-propelled salvo fire systems, armored vehicles equipment, the so-called mraps, machines with anti-mine a-a with additional protection, that is, all complex expensive things are simply excluded by definition, it is impossible

from the word at all. was not supplied in ukraine, or there are people who believe that absolutely sincerely there may well be such, that is, there are people who sincerely believe that in the country, for example, some specific a-a recession or crisis, inflation , price increases. and we throw away huge money that in fact, it is not far, not always huge, for arms ukraine, which uses ineffective ones, such fears are always how massive they are , in my opinion, they are not massive, these are caveats that exist , but they are of a systemic nature. again, we are talking about the mass system. i am absolutely convinced. i just know it. the system is not mass. there is no third country in the west. they are

just in case. they have every right to it. set their conditions sometimes about monitoring the supply of weapons, their use, the effect of this use, and as far as i know, the ukrainian side always went to the meeting and was ready to go on. well, i was here yesterday. i'm sorry, i'm very fast. it is necessary and possible to create instruments of joint control, which included military government officials from the ukrainian side, and representatives of the relevant departments from our partner countries, which would control this process, it is possible and in fact, as far as i know honestly, this is happening, it is necessary to create some additional structure, there are no questions about the parliament. sorry, first of all, i do not think, with all due respect to the parliament, which represents that in the conditions of war, democratic parliamentary control can be effective, this is a war, parliamentary control is limited for

objective reasons . first, second, a temporary investigative commission is created when there are facts or a hint of facts of violations of abuse and then the parliament, within the limits of democratic control, creates a corresponding investigator commission i don't know about the parliament, they got information about such facts three i think it's not very correct when a representative of the president's office advises the parliament what it should do, it refers to its powers, its functionality, the council should determine whether it is necessary or not, and four if we say so that it was effective and the reservations of our western partners were removed, i emphasize once again that this has the attributes of military government officials, perhaps the ministry of foreign affairs, why is the investigative commission in the parliament or more you i don't understand the word at all, i will give another quote . yesterday, the altatimes commented on this article, the official representative of nato said the following . nato allies are fully in solidarity with the leadership of the people of ukraine in their heroic defense of their

country. we are helping to defend ukraine's fundamental right to self-defense with an unprecedented level of support. we are confident in favors of the ukrainian leadership, the appropriateness of the preservation and accounting of the allies' weapons, the end of the quote, what is your attitude? they didn't give any huge results, so they were created to create uh, how do you see this situation, are there any other objective reasons and delay uh, for us, the weapons that consist of maybe in the same statements, uh, congressmen , ms. spartz, yes and with regard to the head of the president's office, there are some reasons that are simply slowing down this process. look, as for tsk, here i have to agree with my colleague serhiy about the fact that uh, in the conditions of war and in the absence of facts that our

weapons fell into proven facts or uh there are no informative facts that the high-precision weapons of our partners fell into the hands of terrorists or other groups, and moreover, the tsk institute was recently credited with the fact that you are absolutely right, and not its effectiveness er, its ineffectiveness has now been proven. as for other statements, i would first of all listen to the official statements, and here is a statement, including that of the state department regarding the supply of weapons to ukraine, which fully confirms er cooperation of ukraine to provide all the necessary information to comprehensively demonstrate in what way weapons are used, therefore i would definitely advise paying attention first of all to official information and not to these e-e

informational and psychological operations that are carried out in order to sow, you know, such doubts or to contribute to braking providing ukraine with high-precision weapons for protection and defense. thank you, among other things , for the latest information of such a sensational nature, the international rating agency moody's on july 14, she understands that it is still evening there in america and yesterday she also declared that payments abroad to belarus in local rubles are a default, this is stated in the agency's message, that is, in fact, the ulis declared a default to belarus p . sergius ms. iryna, i am talking about today in russia, there are your colleagues, well, not colleagues . and the parliament of the russian duma and the council of the federation are gathering for e. i understand that the joint extraordinary meeting is extraordinary, which indicates the emergency of this event on july 15. the equator of the summer, what

will the russian leader offer them on this the meetings at which decisions can be made about venoziv are many, from the announcement of the new formation of the eye to the ukrainian donbass to join russia, ordlo is meant up to the creation of a single state there, a new union with belarus , russia and the partially occupied territory of ukraine, which he can lead and represent and sign there some documents from her, and yanukovych himself, who is still alive and well, lives somewhere in the rostov region, mr. sergey. what do you think of the version? explained why because any decision made by the so-called i think it is the so-called council of the federation have no meaning because anyway the decision is made by one person in one place, this person's name is putin and this place is called the kremlin when putin

needed to be irrationally cruel for no reason to brazenly and aggressively declare war by any state duma or federation council did not convene therefore any decision that may be adopted or consecrated there is of no importance because when you are in a state of war between a country and a country a which is the aggressor which is not is going to accept this war in order to stop it. what exactly is the decision of the state duma or the council to praise the federation because it doesn't matter, i also wanted to ask mrs. iryna, please, your predictions for today, mr. serhiy, are of little importance because if, uh, they vote for joining luhansk and donetsk there part of russia, then an attack on luhansk, donetsk, they will consider our liberation as an attack on their territory and theoretically can threaten there, for example, with the use of nuclear weapons, well, formally, he will open good, they also threatened wars, we are all kinds of referents or accessions, now any formal things no longer have any relevance, i emphasize once again that this is irrational evil

, there is no need to look for some person who declared war without any reason, even a formal one, they expected that they would at least fire on themselves putin does not need putin doesn't need any excuses. forget about the decisions of the federation council of the state duma. they do n't matter. what matters is what's in this maniac's head. and what's in his head, we don't know. maybe today, given the way it is now, wow, the russians support even yesterday's missile attack on vinnytsia and applaud and say that's right, target them there, maybe today they will declare war , then mrs. iryna fedyshyn will decide, the war will continue like this, will it be called a war or will it not be called a war it doesn't matter. thank you, iryna. yes, i think that there is a real threat that he may declare martial law in the russian federation, and this may lead to the kind of hidden

mobilization that is taking place in russia today. the federation is already fully mobilized, this will have certain consequences for ukraine, because we understand that the russian soldiers use their soldiers as aromatic meat, and that despite this meat, there will be even more on our land, and we must be ready in order to repel this influx, can it be joined and then used as an excuse to use nuclear weapons? putin, i have to agree with my colleague sergey that the only goal of this war is in the head of putin, and it is putin who will decide in what way

and where exactly to direct it in the future. how many minutes before the end, i wanted to ask you about the initiative to allow men aged 60 years of fighting at the front in ukraine. i personally know of cases when men older than this age reduced their age in order to get in. who are now fighting? this is an initiative of your colleagues. 23 deputies propose to allow this to the parliament, whether it is necessary or not, please. the comments of serhiy rahmanin, my colleague from the faction, he initiated the construction of the draft law after repeated appeals to him by reserve servicemen and generally citizens of ukraine who fall under the pedagogical age and cannot be subject to conscription or mobilization or generally serve on a voluntary basis under a contract in the armed forces of ukraine increase the number

of qualified personnel. unfortunately, they also drop out, and unfortunately, the first thing that happens is that there is a certain amount , as far as i know, of people who who have a minimum year who want to serve the state, this is absolutely normal. first of all, i would think that people of the appropriate age should be taken . these people should be done is very briefly see the correct written allow yes i.e. do not oblige but allow and accordingly if a person is older i.e. over 60 years old but is really capable ready and is necessary for of the armed forces of ukraine, she directly has the right to be given so that she can serve. thank you

, people's deputies of ukraine, serhii rahmaniny and iryna fris, for joining our broadcast. thank you very much for the meaningful conversation. we will have news later, and then we will be back. it will be with the press, anna, and you, melnyk. i am ready to tell us everything, congratulations, annoyeva, are there any new details of the details of yesterday , in particular, air donations to vinnytsia, of course i will tell you about vinnytsia and mykolaiv and kherson oblast, but you know my fellow ukrainians in social networks are joking they say that the time from 9:30 to ten is such a period of good news. because this is exactly this pizza - in these half an hour we can learn about the losses of the enemy, so i will tell you this good news because already 38,000 russian nazis have mixed with ukrainian land, be with we have more to come