sometimes it impresses them because it is familiar, it is familiar, even the same clothes are the same problem, and because of that, i would say that politicians have enough to do. i would call on citizens to share their stories, and not to open all their private affairs with their stories, but the more human i think that the more effective you answer in your own voice what bothers you, how do you generally think about where to send the children and such small things, i think that it is because i do not want ukraine to become an abstract concept i want some kind of geopolitical game, because ukraine was a country, if we were to talk anyway about some global things, more about trust, i wanted to ask you because during the last week and a half, well

, there were a lot of people who wanted to make some kind of confusion in our relations, especially ukraine with the west as partners, respectable media write whole articles about the fact that weapons provided to ukraine can fall into the hands of terrorists in syria. let's control it, because there is a semi-criminal regime there, there are criminal people who can do any your help, whether financial or military , will be stolen and resold, and not only the media, i’m just saying it as some politicians and some representatives of institutions say it, and i understand that this is an information company that started in this regard. and who is the main beneficiary? in general, is there any reason to talk about some kind of unreliability of ukraine as an international partner, at the moment, to destabilize the situation, not to create something, just to understand, i have certain forces

that simply do not want to build, but simply want to to destroy, i don't know who destroys things like that, but my approach to all that is, and to dehydrate everything is to create my own bride and the content is somewhat direct. because i don't want to occupy, i don't have enough space in my brain to answer such things directly, i think that the best the approach is what people do, whether there is something organized or not, it doesn't matter to me what i can do and i can contribute something constructive i can share my photos how do you look today i can write there for three paragraphs or some column somewhere that my colleagues from the time when i worked here 30

years ago, they tell me that i can add something, i can make a playlist of ukrainian music and put it on sparifagas, i can, i can do such supposedly small but very important things, i can, as in english such a phrase, i can loudly say that i know something about ukraine and encourage people to ask me, and in this way i can dilute this other information, what is going on, ukraine is now losing a huge number of people, not only people, but most importantly , every day the value of the infrastructure is destroyed every day factories, factories, ordinary houses, schools, hospitals , universities, two universities were destroyed today in mykolaiv, two rockets landed, two universities are there on that continent, where do you live, such

awareness in general of the destruction that is actually happening in the center of europe in the 21st century, when one part of europe launches expeditions to mars there, and another one destroys universities in mykolaiv with the same rockets, and i think that i, to a certain extent, and i would even to us now a lot people and organizations apply and do very cool projects or fundraising or raise awareness and one advertising agency will accept us and they have created such a site that it seems your role is feel we feel where they made footage key- key points where they have cities in new - in york , si and over in canada, everyone is furious and the site is just one picture and how it moves, what it looks like now and if it looked like i want it looked like a city here in

ukraine and i think it is impressive, oh, what do you see? now time square looks like this now but it could look like kharkiv or mariupol for example so i think how i see such projects that different people create on their own and turn to us or whether they can collect money to use it as a fadweizini or they can join us so this is such an indicator for me that people are starting to think that this is a road everywhere, who will report the most, do you have such information? well, maybe they are from ukraine, or who do these people know? we have not yet done a full analysis of our data bank, so our priority was to convert that money into medicine and send it, but i really want to, and people are asking me to do an analysis

of these and these reports, they literally, on one of them, you can calculate how many millions they counted , but also just taking the number. i think that they all can't be natives of ukraine, everyone wants to find their roots in ukraine, by the way, it's funny , yes, and my great-great-grandfather is actually from that town. i see that it's in ukraine. ukraine and i breathe a lot, but i wouldn't say that it's more. we thank you for everything you do here. we are very proud of such ukrainians. the president of the fund together for ukraine, thank you for your work. 57 million dollars have already been collected. only at the beginning of the full-scale invasion of russia into ukraine and

they are doing a lot of cool projects. thank you for your team and we continue our broadcast about gas corruption schemes. we can talk further. dmytro firtash, who is called a gas corruptor, lost his monopoly in may, but he had more problems, and millions of ordinary consumers also had more problems because they were not informed that firtash had lost his monopoly and continued to pay him so in firtash that his gas is sold with this gas and gas is already provided by another company and we will see about this in our story ms. nataliya from lviv, a pensioner who single-handedly takes care of her disabled son, a poor woman, her pension is a little more than uah 2,000 per month, and for communal services in may, she will now have to pay money twice a month due to internet wi-pay was transferred to my personal account

in lvivgaz sales and since we pay for the month of may in june, it turns out that in june we paid honestly for the services, what was ms. natalya's surprise when the may bill from lvivgaz another one from naftogaz was added to the sale, again for uah 400. i wanted them to return my money in order to pay it to the second organization. the supplier failed and i did not receive a clear answer. consumers of lvivgaz, the state automatically transferred sales to the supplier of the last hope, by the decision of the cabinet of ministers, this function is performed by naftogaz of ukraine, in general,

more than 10 million customers switched to naftogaz throughout the country, and since the state did not conduct a proper information campaign, thousands of subscribers habitually paid not for the new naftogaz, but for their previous ones gasbutam, yes, and the sales service has not provided paper invoices since may, but it does not send electronic invoices to consumers, and they still provide the internet here for june is the month of accounts, the former minister of housing and communal affairs, oleksiy kucherenko, is convinced that millions of consumers in all regions of ukraine have become hostages of a failed information campaign. now, not only the return of funds to consumers, but also their subsidies are in question, this is a complete anti-ukrainian adventure. is not the position of the state of ukraine. this is

absolutely the position of its poor management aimed at one thing - these are huge salary bonuses equipment schemes and still others, however, it seems that the gazbuts themselves could take advantage of the situation, at least in lviv, they do not show a particular desire to return overpaid money and arrange real quests for customers, mrs. nataliya is complaining, certificates of receipts are photocopies of documents, the woman collected everything that the manager asked for company, but this turned out to be not enough. she told me that i need to provide me with a copy of the certificate of ownership, that i am the owner of that apartment, we certify the invoices with seals, they were drawn up on viber lvivgaz sales and when i called back to see if i received it from her, she said that she did not want them, according to the woman

, the problem was also that the payment for gas was made through the ipay payment system, supposedly lvivgaz sales, which for years had been accepting money through this provider, suddenly stopped recognizing his receipts is this really the case and has gazbud stopped working with ipay? we inquired on the hotline. good day, you are on the site. i see that there is an opportunity to pay for gas to the lvivgaz sales company. please tell me if this information is relevant. we can present to you, i.e., payments according to their details. you accept and the payments are valid, that

they somehow change, er, i think so that we do not have such transactions, lvivgaz sales must recognize ipay receipts, but in the case of ms. natalya, for some reason, this did not happen when i sent she received a printout on viber, she said that it is not appropriate why honest lviv payers of communal services are forced to go through the 7 circles of hell to get their money back, we asked the director of lvivgazbut, pavlo maika, however, on his in my opinion, there are no problems with returning the money , any consumer who has overpaid can contact us, write a statement, provide the necessary package of documents, and within a certain period of time, we will return these funds

. directly in the office of the company, this man denied it. andriy has not been able to return his money for almost six months, he is coming to lviv all the way from vinnytsia and again without success in february the wife mistakenly transferred the money not for the consumed gas in the amount of gas transportation in the amount of 10,000. currently, this issue has not been resolved and the money has not been transferred to us. if the state does not urgently intervene to solve the problem by the fall, the situation will take on catastrophic proportions, predicts oleksiy kucherenko. citizens should have known in advance what and to whom to pay a now i found myself alone with my problems, they had everything done retroactively , you understand, that's how i understand it. see if you have been billed without having the right to do so

this is a criminal crime, of course he should be responsible for it, there will be queues in the offices, there will be a very, very unpleasant period, and the main thing is that i do not know when it will end, i am not sure that it will end before this heating season. the fact that conscientious payers of communal services are forced to stand in queues for hours and, in addition to military problems , also solve communal problems and gas companies controlled by dmytro firtash even after transferring to the management of naftogaz , they continue to enrich themselves, because the number of consumers who will not be able to return their money remains astronomical. millions of ukrainians evacuated abroad simply will not be physically able

to bring their statements to the office. gas sold their statements. guests experts doctor viktor galchynskyi economist express secretary of naftogaz of ukraine nak naftogaz of ukraine already see us viktor welcome with us the main the editor of the information consulting center gas pravda, congratulations oleksiy. congratulations. well, let's go through the stories, i hope you saw it. the total number of people who were retroactively made naftogaz customers, and they thought that they still had to pay for gas sales to regional or city gas-bets, 10 million people, that is, 10 million to moskves. in fact , this is all of ukraine, mr. viktoria. how did it happen, please? well, the first thing that happened is stipulated by the law of ukraine on the natural gas market, in particular, its article 15. what if the gas supplier cannot er fulfill its responsibilities er having no resources

, customers go to the supplier of the last hope, which is determined by the cabinet of ministers at a special tender, and today this supplier really is the er non-stationary joint-stock company naftogaz of ukraine how did it happen well, first of all, the primary fault for this lies with the transports themselves, which should have informed in advance three working days before the impossibility of fulfilling their duties, and then the supply goes to the supplier of the last nadia, this was not done accordingly, the operator of the gas transportation system really retroactively , because gas was provided, and the gas plant did not have physical resources anymore, transferred the supply , transferred customers to the supplier of the last nadia , i.e. naftogaz of ukraine, i.e. gas of ukraine accepted

and they themselves admit that it is 8.8 million so many new clients came to them, they were unable to process them and the first bills are now issued only in july, therefore such a situation has clearly arisen that, unfortunately, there is no mechanism for transferring funds between suppliers of e-e to the gas industry are obliged to return the funds. another question is whether they have the resources for this, because we can see how it looks from this plot when the gas industry is looking for leads, demands additional documents, does everything to ensure that the e-e funds remain e-e with them if we talk about a-a gazo tran, this is oblgaz, eh, it was transferred to state management, the issue with hospitals remains unclear, but the fact that they

are obliged to return funds is eh, this is clear, and they must fulfill their obligations. well, this the name of the supplier of the latter nadiya last nadiya is like the name of a boarding house for the elderly for the elderly, that reminds me of something good, that's the term, it's legal, it 's written in the law and in europe, the same, the same. politics is a requirement of the third class, but if you multiply it by 400, ms. natalia, there 400 hryvnias are currently being searched for, they paid for the sales gas, but it is no longer there, and multiply it by 10 million users, it turns out to be 4 billion, that is, the amount is quite large, how will people manage to return this money to themselves, if they are not returned, we can see the story, well, fortunately, not all of them they paid er prematurely yes er someone didn't wait to try the payments i paid in internet banking in person my sister

paid the same to my mother by the way we can't return it i 'll tell you later er how to do it er yes er it turns out that according to the latest data they returned about 9 million of these overpayments from the gas stations, but what is interesting is that it is only 5% only according to the latest data , that is, you can calculate if it is a drop in the ocean. and this dispels the myth that was spread before that ukrainians do not pay for gas, so we see on in practice, many ukrainians paid in advance without even waiting for the paper payments. well, for online banking, there are just bank cash registers. but really, it is hundreds of millions of hryvnias. ukrainians have overpaid, how to return them , unfortunately. it is necessary to write applications automatically so far, at least no one can return anything, it is necessary to write an application. this is bad news before good news. it is possible to write this application online and send

it online, that is, an appeal to those people who are going to go to the gas office, as people are used to it is not necessary to name yes once to be. you can do all this online if necessary , or younger relatives or specialists can help there, well, in particular , we have even prepared a sample of the appropriate application for you, where you need to enter all your personal data , fill in, add a certain package of documents and send to the e-mail address e-e, in principle , this is how it works. if after such statements the gazbuts will not return it , e-e. viktor, but we saw in the plot that payments for gas bills sold by regional and city ones continue

to be accepted and continue to be paid, that is, those who are paying now do not know, have not seen the pyramid of this debt. yes, which can amount to or already reaches four billion, it is growing, the problem is clearly that the agency there in fact, they have not stopped their activities, they can act, they can accept payments, that’s what they use, that is, it should be voluntary and it is enough for their internal team to stop e-e payments and that’s all, but they don’t they will do this because there is no such authority to stop their activities, but they also know very well that they will not return to the market now after what happened, and accordingly , they too, i assume that they can build this pyramid. well, accordingly, it is important that the communication company itself from the side of the new supplier , moreover, i also paid attention to this situation has

another problem before the heating season, according to the law on the gas market, the supplier will appear 10 days after that, the customer must choose some supplier or the same naftogaz of ukraine, but there must be or else the supply will be stopped unequivocally that now it is necessary now eh probably no private trader and oblgaz will have enough resources to supply at the regulated price according to the list of obligations 7.99 and 796 per cubic meter in addition to naftogaz, but this means that the client by law must also take some action, he does not know about it either, and naftogaz also does not answer whether they will or will be able to accept clients for indefinite service because this will again be a problem oleksiy, please clarify there are some other alternatives to naftogaz, and this means

that people need to enter into new contracts with naftogaz now. i will add a little bit if possible to mr. viktor’s information, so pont his supplier, the last nadia, whose functions are performed by naftas of ukraine, in fact, according to the law, he has 60 days after which, theoretically, again, because in practice, there has never been such a thing as stopping the supply, that is, a person has 60 days to find a new permanent supplier, but there is a war in our country, so in june, the government and the operator of the gts made a decision that more than 10 million new people, household consumers, who got to the supplier of the last nadia, they automatically switch to permanent contracts, i.e. 60 days are no longer in question, people have already become regular such main customers of naftogaz, i.e. write applications there, submit an application for admission to naftogaz, you no longer need them automatically , i.e. can you really imagine a huge problem, 10

million people are looking for a supplier, they don't know what this is, suppliers are confusing bolvavka and gazbud so that this does not happen to people automatically translated if we imagine that someone does not want to be a client of naftogaz, there are still about 11, it seems , companies that are not naftogaz, there are still companies starting up in ukraine after exiting the market, regional gas-building significantly decreased, but in principle, the only alternative is that again after all, the list of e-e of all suppliers can be found on the internet, in particular on our website, but when a person chooses, for example, one or another supplier, i advise you to study the issue of his e-e actual state of affairs, payment, capacity, reliability , and so on, because you can switch and then in a month to find yourself in the same situation again, because the supply of your new one is a problem and it is also important that you

understand that in the story it was stated that strangers can still pay gas but the fact is that the regionality and gas buts that connect from the company they supplied and are currently supplying not only to household, that is they supplied to households and before now they do not supply to out-business companies e.e. to ordinary commercial companies of business they supply gas that is why they function they did not go bankrupt they simply stopped supplying gas to household consumers, people, what should i do now as a receiver of obedience? tell me, please, check who i paid, maybe people don't know if they are including 10 million or not. what should people do? they have to go somewhere to search and study the issue. please explain, mr. viktor, it is definitely necessary to look to whom . paid if sales gas has been paid so uh, if there is an overpayment and there may be because the gas has always had this practice issue recommended payments issue advance payments

see write an application for return submit in in case of refusal to defend its rights in court, the company was preparing, the company has money, the company is simply resisting, as for naftogaz, with the help of the toolkit on gas.ua, you can find out with its help your new personal account and receive already pay the receipt with the new supplier , hardly so you can look and choose an alternative supplier, but given that we are at war and there is really a situation there in a month or two, the situation may repeat itself that you paid a third supplier and came to the supplier again of the last hope it is probably better to stop with naftogaz as the only company that in war conditions has the resources to provide the population with natural gas viktor and i understand correctly that they have not disappeared from our regional sales they only work, they have

given up ballast in the form of physical consumers and work there where it is commercially more profitable for the business, they are liquidated. they have the funds, accordingly, they can return the overpayments, and they and what kind of business oleksia they provide to the business, they sell this gas, that is, as always, the filter, that is big business in our country stays there where it is profitable, and where it is not profitable. let the state then deal with these four 400-levels. each of the 4 billion was how many times more than the tariff for enterprises. well, you have to look at the specific tariff of each company. but again even well , three strikes. there will definitely not be any left, that is, they will continue the work of oblgas firtash, correctly , oleksiy and gazbut, again, in order to finally

prove the point to people. in fact, both those and the second e-e until recently belonged to the companies of firtash structures. now gas will actually not be supplied to people, but businesses are supplied with oblgas, also in the process of returning it to state ownership in the state administration e-e well, but you have to pay as there are two payments, they actually used to be two just came on one sheet, doesn’t it sound strange, uh, uh, uh, uh, one part was from oblgaz firtash, the other from gazbud and efisha, and now there will be pay for gas as well before nothing has changed, absolutely no one has canceled the payment for delivery e-e, the personal account

is the same, that is, everything is the same as before, you pay as you paid , the payment itself for gas supply has changed, now it will not be from gazbut, but from naftogaz who pays on the internet e-banking there through a mobile phone through it a computer through the website and you can find out your new personal account at least from naftogaz or just by calling the hotline eh well, actually it's a few minutes of time in viber there telegram or on facebook you can to find out, you just need to know your ais code, which you can find in the payment for the delivery of this gas, there is this e-e letters, latin numbers, you enter them and get your personal account, and again , all grandparents who do not know how to use a telephone and smartphones do not they know how to do it, they don’t know, who knows, if there is no such possibility, just wait for the paper payment, it will come sooner or later. now, there are no

fines for non-payment. well, wait for the paper payment, everything will be new personal account and professions, you will take the payment with her for a year, as usual, to the post office, to the bank, pay there and everything will be fine. thank you oleksiy savitskyi, editor-in-chief of the gaz pravda information and consulting center viktor galchynskyi, economist and express secretary of naftogaz of ukraine i just thought how much is it such a s- scam well, we are beautiful unequivocally such a headlight is colossal because for those 400 hryvnias well, i will not go to court because i will waste more time and look at 4 billion hryvnias to whom well we can guess yehor shurynda valevska it is only a month and the process it continues that i would very much like our state not to be allowed. yes, i'm sorry to attack people, and we are organizations like nkrekp - this is a regulator that should be monitored by the antimonopoly committee, and it should all work. and you and i should demand this, what are we doing anna