and there may be absolutely any surprises, the second moment is a security moment , we still do not have clear answers to our absolutely obvious security questions, who will punish the violator of these agreements in the event that, relatively speaking, the russians violate these agreements and will try to take advantage of certain security points, i.e. demining of ports and the like, all this is clear, but hmm leaves a lot of doubts about the implementation of this agreement, i see, well, a lot of effort from the turkish side, this means well, they the united nations is interested in this, and ukraine, for its part, is also

interested because the grain is in the port and accordingly we want to sell it and take it out of the country, thus ensuring security and food security countries of the middle east, and let me remind you that if this does not happen, it will cause another wave of instability, and in any case, it will force europe to also solve this issue, which means it will distract from the ukrainian issue . so, in general, we are interested in implementation of this work, but the dangerous issue is very seriously hindering these agreements and i am afraid that key spears will break around this, that is, the fact of the framework agreements does not mean that it

will really work. ihor semevolov, director of the center for middle eastern studies, was in touch with us. jason american political technologist political consultant our next interlocutor and actually for the audience what we are talking about congresswoman er from the united states of america victoria sparti what a few days that is why she called on us president joe biden to check the russian connections of the head of the office of the president of ukraine, andriy yermak, now demands to trace where american military aid goes to ukraine and declares the need for the world to implement proper proper supervision , create a working group for ukraine so that we do not have to look for our weapons, all the riches of mexico yes , our working language will now be russian , i apologize for the inconvenience to our viewers , mr. smart, in fact, as far as i can tell, we have a divided opinion in ukraine

well, this scandal has received a lot of attention, uh, it is precisely the statements of mrs. spartz, smart sparts, that she is not us, that yarmak should resign, and, uh, that he may have ties to russia. how much can i judge by people who sympathize with commentators who sympathize with zelenskiy personally, who are ready to believe that there is some story behind it, that this is almost not a projection of the kremlin, and, unfortunately, in ukraine , such conspiracy theories are often supported and supported by other people who know more opponents of zelensky or critics who are wary of how much for the war. this is how it fits. they believe that the spartans are expressing fully uh-uh well-founded claims . how important is he to us?

can he really undermine, for example, the flow of aid from the united states, or bring some kind of discord to our relationship? the democratic party also emphasized that such statements, which were heard by the world from the congress of victoria, may mean that it is possible that it was not planned, but that the kremlin and marsyk were playing along. the author said that the administration of the ukrainian president and the authorities of ukraine have no this moment is based on the fact that it speaks of some insufficient resistance to the russian aggressor that in fact the ukrainian government is now showing an example of unity and

er organization in order to resist er dictator and bloody veterans from russia in the conditions of war, what do you think about all this , mr. jason, and how is this discourse perceived in american politics now, please explain to us yes yes, in fact, the book is the author of as you know, and not an ordinary friend of ukraine. loud scandal with its screen all about it i said, but in fact, in america, the sky is so loud, and then we are. what

she wrote to balina this was an explanation of how they destroyed someone's information in ukraine a-a and there is a process there is a definite process - this is yes and the grids will decide who and to whom we can give information, how do we know that we can reach this other person to the person and she asked him for the explained self in fact, where is it? no, it's not like that. aksyonov, it does n't mean anything, that is, there is some kind of process. i give all the information that i mentioned to ukraine in kiev , and they were conducted, that is, nothing terrible. and what is the difference, so that you understand, and those are the same? writings, how, where, he is looking for, and answers,

how, why, and such things happen 100 times, where are you, nothing special, and of course it was loud because of the fact that ukraine was contacted, and you sent ukraine to america and it’s a shorter day, and ours, which i have now, write such letters, it’s very painful to perceive it victoria's first statement was spurred by the fact that part of this letter was classified and we discussed it on our broadcasts. spartz k biden uh this topic was for us painful enough even before the war, but now, er, any political confrontation is put on

hold, and er, actually, er, when this story unfolded for us, it was enough, well , a moment, such a moment of impact, but at the same time, the discussion is the basis in society and in politics came back again, and it wouldn't be surprising if it weren't for the fact that after just a few days , we hear from congresswoman spartacus that american military aid to ukraine may become an object of smuggling and uh, this statement was made almost at the same time when the european union announced that the information written by smuggling weapons from ukraine is mass propaganda of russia, and uh, the europeans are saying that the russian federation has just launched an intensive campaign of disinformation against ukraine and nato, speaking

of contraband weapons that are supplied by allies , and in addition to russian propaganda resources, we heard about this only from interpol, which also traditionally maintains the influence of the russians on the attraction of many years, that is, where does this context come from in the sentence about the somewhat toxic personnel in the office of president zelenskyi? and well, i think that in fact i’m a fan of you, but some people why so, that’s a radical idea, but i’m honest with you i think and i myself have no doubt that he is entitled to it both times, you have the weather for everyone, too, how the presidential administration behaved, and it means that there will be an inspection, they will check all this information and you will be visited again at the house of the ilnytskyi steppe, that he spent all of them and the sky is not there are no problems claims and then it will be good then such things as now as you said russian

propaganda will be less a-a affective how much will the application will be checked and it will be sharpened and which shows eh what is really happening i show that such rumors are simply without a basis well worse if any reasons will be found, but on the other hand, it is even worse if they were and they would not be found, and here i think so . publications of the american press, and that's mostly there were just editorials, i.e., editorial articles about the fact that it is imperative to cast aside some doubts, some fears, and finally hand over much more weapons to ukraine, and we have no doubt that the united states itself has such and such an opportunity, that is for example , dozens of high-tech missile systems

that are very good. now they have recommended a very simple justification, too, because it is possible to win the war now cheaper than to move it to the next year when economically, too, there will be already some disagreements, a united alliance, these are the ranks, that is, in your opinion, these are really strong eyes. here are they, or do they dominate and do they have influence, and maybe something will change in the near future precisely for the biden administration yes, you know it's very interesting when i look at the beauty in america and what's there. news is also looking for my insider information, which is at and when i started even before the baths. how do you remember, uh, a few beds poroshenko asked that the americans act with weapons, and the americans acted, and when the war was just

beginning, then there was such a feeling, let’s help somehow, and we see that it’s not ego enough, it’s like a fancy heart, for example. cadresmen, too, works for ukraine, but they don’t believe that what’s happening, he understands the situation better than the weather back then, and not gerasil. the best person understands that really there is a huge potential. now, in your case, i’m going to pay for the property and a package for everyone, really, i can’t have a contact that’s right across from me. well, the piston is my match, so it’s better to help ukraine. it will be possible for everyone and there is no obligation. as he says, 100% i think

that it is all a fact that ukraine is behind. and new programs are silent extreme smart well, after the attack of the russian federation on vinnytsia, the embassy from the united states called on the americans to leave ukraine immediately, and we actually have a discussion about what this can mean, this is a standard protocol update of information, or this evidence of a certain new reality about how they see the situation in ukraine, the white house, as of today, because some analysts say that this is simply an identical formulation of those

earlier, the information appeared on the website of the embassy that now more emphasis is placed on the missile danger, then they talked more about safety and danger on the ground. and there was no phrase in it, they will immediately leave ukraine, there was only a recommendation to leave, and in fact, such a sharp wording is found for the first time after the middle of may mm worked again after the start of the war russia's invasion of ukraine and the embassy of the united states in the ukrainian capital, what do you think about it

? in kremenchug, you are angry now, and in vinnytsia yesterday, when a rocket attack on the center of the city destroyed dozens of lives of civilians. and you know, i have already read about taking the embassy . in fact, they did not recommend the country to participate. and this is nothing new, because i think that yours land what do they write, what is the frequency combination, that is, uh, there are problems that they have a step, it’s called “ i don’t proglayut vam email” and well, yes, really , look until may 28, and they also said that someone was missing missiles, but they didn’t say i’m not in the country yet, but i think it ’s nothing new, that’s who the person who wrote the document decided it once

. you didn't do anything, but there are things that i honestly don't care about i don't remember anything, and we'll find it, and i'm ashamed, i'm almost not sure that you are mine, it's related to the former in vinnytsia, and i think that's what special people say about how to recognize her, eat like that every day, and there's anxiety. and you, ukrainian nights and according to yours, he said that this is nothing new. nothing special, and this is like desires. this is the situation that the work was the essence of the territory. ети есть война а если есть the opportunity to go merkul you have two americas is better you them to her advice i i i think that this will be your advice well you don’t mean anything that the situation

will be worse we literally only have a minute left but perhaps difficult questions president er trump former ot trump said with my desire to run for office again, i read the award to the british that his victory would be a real catastrophe for ukraine in the first place, although perhaps some americans believe that the first place is more likely for america, your opinion if всё таки станется та хочация so that trump will become president again, will it really be a tragedy to help ukraine and support ukraine, a war with russia of the 45th president of the 40th president, god forbid a but if it works out for him a-a and i will go what does he actually do? i dream that this will be a truck where it goes to ukraine . and why do i want a simple answer? well, what i want to show is that he is a grandson’s prom. byda, a guy, and i played. it was

written in the dnieper. once what the guy did enough for ukraine, if the president is there, if i am your country, they also asked me to win the war quickly. that is, i think that in reality, izo ’s ego is greater than everything. to me, the editor gives us additional time for a conversation, and that’s very grateful to our editors for that, and i also really wanted to ask, in the background of uh, statements and trump, that he will take part in the presidential campaign, esciologists, and specifically a poll for the new york times showed that the majority of voters and the democratic party of the usa would like to see a presidential candidate in the 24th election, there is no joe biden mr. smart

in your opinion voters of the democratic party, and how in general in america society reacts now to biden's policy to the fact that he, er, is exactly such a vector of his activities, he prioritized eh about this direction of greater activation of global leadership . perhaps many voters in america themselves consider it to be a disadvantage of an internal uh, a certain internal question. ego e-e ego a-a and i saw this interestingly because the clothes in america are very low before the sweater, how low is this the lowest rating of the new president e-e there are already thousands in

1945 somewhere, that is, there are already two generations of them, never i saw a piece of sugar and it means what these new egos are very complicated, and the reasons are : how do you kill them? and i decided to start in america, despite the fact that i control, that is, the ego party controls the congress and the senate, she is what you are now, so that i am easier on you than the ego, but still, it did not appear a-a some kind of result a-a i dream if you will a candidate for me every time. well, his limits are the same, that’s what it is for you. how much for a job now, and if in ukraine or what is he now, he’s a

slave. and that’s not against him, but people sit at home and there’s no hook, they get worse and worse and worse and what and how can he control it? what is it? well , the retired american brigadier general, a veteran of cancer and afghanistan, mark arnold, in an interview with rbk-ukraine, expressed the opinion that russia does threaten the security of nato, and latvia, lithuania and estonia can also become targets of armed aggression. and analysts in particular, from the united states of america, they also emphasize the wisdom and consideration of the steps taken by biden, who is now helping ukraine, because if putin goes further, the money, effort and number of lives that nato and the directly connected states of america will have to spend, the price will be much higher than supporting ukraine now and restraining putin in ukraine well, our next

guest is our guitar, this is mark savchuk, the head of the public control board of the national anti-corruption bureau of ukraine, mr. marko dobrogo hello, let's talk about the actual appointment of the head of the sap in ukraine, which these days has become a trigger for the recording of criticism from the side of certain representatives of the american congress and a discussion on the topic of whether there are real signs of sabotaging reforms by the ukrainian authorities and a real fight back against the kremlin. well, we just discussed it . with american political technologists, now i would like to talk about our internal affairs, what does the situation with the appointment of the prosecutor of sap look like in general, we know that it has been dragging on for two years however, he turned to this question, it has become one of the key demands of the europeans and the question on which ukraine's further preservation of the candidate status in the european union depends. what

does the situation look like today and have we moved at least one step during in the last few weeks, since ukraine received the status of a candidate, the situation has not changed in any way, everything is happening exactly the same as it was before, you must understand that we can appoint the head of the sapa literally in one day, the competition commission sobiraetsya a-a in the building vote on the results of the a-a competition that was held on the glossap and alexander klymenko scored more points than him and a-and his colleague in the competition andrey sinyuk and he becomes the head of the sap and all this is well known by the authorities all this was known on february 24, from february 24, nothing was done to end this competition, as i said several months ago that the issue of corruption in ukraine

will sooner or later become the international topic of the day, many speculate that someone is there works to russia a-a razъedinyaet means there ukraine or the union around ukraine a-a this is a very naive state of affairs because you say that because a-a as i said the question with the help of ukraine it’s not only about a-a well unity against the horn - that’s more about internal issues, and if your administration will sponsor a state in which there is corruption, the position will eventually use it and say that, look, we will lose our money, the money of our tax payers, to some kind of corruption and while we have a judge, pavel vovk, the court again which can be closed very quickly while we don’t have a sap head while we have corrupt and various representatives of the authorities who are covered by law enforcement agencies, these conversations will be held and that is the question of us how do we

react to this if we gather you are closing in on this and doing what nothing is happening but we will sooner or later appear, er, we will meet such a reaction as that of victoria spartans, and one way or another it will also happen in other countries because there people are also fighting for power and they will preserve деньги свойх налогопательщиков and tell me , please, it was for today. it seems that this is a court session at which, theoretically, the results of the competition on july 18 could be annulled. no, absolutely true . the lawsuit is like this, and this lawsuit was initiated by alexander koreev , and it’s a former detective who sold himself to kolomoisky, in fact, instead of a criminal prosecution, the privat group began to prosecute privatbank itself. and what became known on public radio control nabu and me a-a we raised this question a-a in nabu a said that this type of thing i completely understand why the

detective at his place of work deals with the fact that he undermines the work of the state bank a-a was to initiate a disciplinary investigation based on the results of which a-a aleksandr koreya was volya and from the nabu and he took me to court, he says that i spoil his reputation as it is unpleasant, and here is the meaning. place 2021 he was already eliminated from this competition, he just didn't make it to the finals, and that's why our korean host had such a brilliant idea to file a lawsuit against voosk, and that's why he's talking about the competition commission there is no authority to appoint someone to sap, that is, in those words, the finalists of the competition, those who won a-and to the garden cannot be appointed to the competition

commission , there is no authority to do so. right a appoint people to positions in the sab. and it is very remarkable that the judge that you sent the decision a-a mr. cucumber is also a suspect a-a in the case of the nabu po plyo the wolf against the court of oaska you yourself understand the idiocy of this situation and again, the europeans are very good about it, that's all he knows a-a and this claim a-a because this decision of the first instance he a-a was not executed yet because there is still an appeal because there is an appeal stage and now in the appeal it is considered a-a the consideration was a-a case on the 18th, how did you say eh and oh, we are not 18 i apologize yesterday, which means that there was a replacement of one of the judges in the panel of judges. and that's why they are still broadcasting there again. and what decision did they make? we don't know yet . to be the person who

will accept the final such decision, and when there is a war around, when the question is about the future of our country , there is a minute, literally two minutes left, but i understand correctly that there is such a spicy moment that oleksandr klymenko, who won at the same time, there is a person investigating the case of mr. tatarov who plays a very key role in the reform of anti-corruption or anti-corruption reform, according to the version in president zelenskyi's office, this is a serious problem, how to get around it, hold another competition, ask to give a promise that tatarov will be moved to at the end of zelenskyi's term of office, what to do or what to do as a person, as proposed by congressman victoria sparks, it is absolutely correct to say that unfortunately it is no longer being investigated because this case was buried what happened indeed, oleg tatorov was a suspect, in fact, he was a lawyer in a company

that built warehouses for ammunition, and in fact, a very large amount of evidence of theft was revealed, that is, such a self-made swineherd already under the second government, which means that tatarov was a lawyer in this company , he received suspicion. we know according to vladimir aleksandrovych zelenskyi is headed by his childhood friend ivan bakanov, and the case was closed right away. that's the situation we have, and again, what i'm talking about now is nonsense - it 's a joke - it's idiocy, and everyone knows about it people who are talking to us now know about it in europe, and that is why i said that the reforms will somehow affect the way this war

goes . if we do not do this, we will help you i will not give three, they will give eh in much smaller sizes a-a what is happening now is just nonsense - it is just idiocy a-a and of course some positional politicians a-a in europe and the usa will use this as an argument to either they will regulate more help that is directed to us so that it goes more slowly so that there are more a-a eh, it means control issues and so on and the like, or in principle it says that it is impossible to help ukraine well, that’s the same question our right we must it more more than a problem of personnel - it is a problem of the whole country which is currently surviving in a very difficult war. to cancel the order of work of this