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you hear us, mr. yevgeny, let ’s re-recruit now, mr. yevgeny, heady, sociology can establish whether there are mood changes in russia, this word is conventionally speaking. i don't like war very much, but because it kills me, that's why if you're a pensioner, you're 60 years old, you won't be drafted anyway. what difference does it make to you? if you're all 18, you'll go, which i see in my american radio listeners as russian-speaking who told me that putin will drop an atomic bomb on new york
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. meaningful conversation and let's move on to the question, if they finally appear there, there are a couple of pieces, there are many, we will definitely start. can you explain in more detail the thesis that an important motivation for the war for the putin clan is the looting of captured territories? it's just somehow it is difficult to understand how the clans that completely control gazprom grow karasneft, it may be a financial benefit to rob a few unfortunate destroyed ukrainian markets, while losing much more money from sanctions, you mentioned together the possibility of inflaming money not for the reconstruction of these territories, but is there anything that prevents him from also dispersing funds to some in megaprojects on the territory of russia. and why can’t you go and do it? i think that i think that they just have this reflex so that you grab them, you have a house and a beard, it’s just a reflex, it’s a new territory, well, there is a possibility, no later although there are somewhere around 20 billion and they tell you, well, there will be another 3
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million, which is for a normal picture. why not here, i think there is also an important thing. so when putin came to power, a huge part of the russian industry. it was already taken over by the yeltsin oligarchs. prizovu abramovych fridman aven mardashovym imya legion and putinsky, all these people are kovalchuks, rotenberg himself, putin himself. they were left without such fortunes, without fundamental industry. and look, in crimea, they did n’t let anyone in. abramovich fridman is not there. but there timchenko is there, rotenberg is there, there are putin 's interests there, the closest thing they will take is new regions in ukraine . and here it's definitely ours, it's ours, we won it with blood, we
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have a business, and of course, in this regard, they can uh, it's absolutely clear that they think that it's theirs, that kherson is just a product of the modern crimea of ​​ours kherson is ours. this is not meant to be russia, but they, let's see what happens next, after the attack by the rashists on vinnytsia, the us embassy called on the americans to leave ukraine immediately, what should we prepare for now? it seems to me that this year, and by the way, we said at the time, and you didn't believe us, that if the united states embassy requires its citizens to leave the territories, then it has to, then it just won't say it. so she has accurate information that there will be military actions on this territory if the embassy sees that there
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is a targeted attack on civilians united people in kyiv. so why can't it be at all means that it can be an attack on civilian objects and citizens in the united states is advised not to be in ukraine as a country in which there may be strikes on civilian objects. well, we. i think you understand this perfectly. every ukrainian who is on the territory of ukraine is in danger wherever he is and of course citizens of foreign countries who have a choice, they can leave the territory of this dangerous country, at least the embassy should call for this in order to impose responsibility, so they are obliged, so there is nothing to prepare, we need to prepare for the same thing that we had to prepare for since 2014, a large-scale war on the territory of our a country in which we hope that the armed forces of ukraine will defeat the russian army, this war will end with the liberation of our territories and the beginning of the development of ukraine, which in 10-15-20 years will lead us to the european union and i hope that before nato,
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that we will become part of nato and then we will already be fighting in other countries, but keep in mind that people get used to everything, you read people, people who sat in stalinist or hitler prisons, even in concentration camps, they get used to it. that's why now this, this, this horror arose in vinnytsia and many other regions, and someone already spoke about it from the locals who relaxed, got used to the siren howling, this does not mean that you need to run because she howled yesterday and the day before yesterday and the day before yesterday well, absolutely nothing came i am sure that the owners of large shopping centers, let's say, should insist that the visitors of these centers leave them during uh-uh, it's absolutely necessary, yes, these are absolutely logical things, and by the way, here i see many times how in lviv, let's say, people leave completely during an alarm, this is logical because that this is an object in which, in the event of a ballistic missile hitting it, it is not immediately a huge number of people, it is obvious that you cannot
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force a person to leave his home, this is clear, but if you are talking about some place where there is a magical public meeting, there are no public meetings, rallies, because it is a large number of people, a shopping center, let's say it is also a huge number of people, and the owners of shopping centers should think now not about income, not about the sale of goods during the air, anxiety about what will happen as a result of a missile hit to hit any such object anywhere in ukraine can kill 150-200,500 people, and what will happen to your business then? the reality is that we need to think about it and keep in mind that we will get used to it, but this does not mean that russian missiles are destined for this, which will still fly if the president's office ignores the european requirements for the appointment of the heads of tzafinab. can
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they take away our candidacy in the european union ? i think no, but i think differently. i think that the garden can accumulate . there will be negotiations, yes, without negotiations regarding 14 - this is this candidacy - it is like a medal, you can run with it and say that i am almost there, you did not enter, it is a great pity, oh, the republic of north macedonia, i remind them of this it seems that the parliament will finally make a decision that will allow this candidate for eu membership to proceed to negotiations with the european union 17 years after the granting of this status, we do not know when the negotiations will end, of course, but 2:3 how old will you be when if ukraine will be 17 years old wait for the beginning of the victory. well, you will host a festive broadcast
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in the eu. i invite you. thank you. i invite you to stop when we finish these negotiations. if we are alive and well. so we wanted to host a broadcast when we join the eu for this for this office of the president. i promise, i will run for the european parliament, mykola, you will be the head of the head of which headquarters i am sticking to you, i can, i will also run for office. i am a better candidate for the european parliament than you, i have international experience, i know central europe that a you think in 20 years me, i don't, i don't learn about central europe and don't get international experience in 20 years 20 years i think i'll be everything i'll make up for everything so on questions i wanted yes i wanted so you see , this is the first euro-deputy of ukraine, so get acquainted with the interview we will go one step at a time. good day
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, in your opinion. is it possible for russia to lose, by the way , does sociology mean that the loss of russia by the end of the year is important? is the statement of oleksiy reznikov, of course, populism ? military potential, but again, what does it mean after all ? it can be different things, it can be a stoppage of hostilities when russia does not get even a mm more of our territory, this is also a success of the ukrainian armed forces, it can be the liberation of certain territories. that is, we do not know. well, we rarely how much war do we have? we look at russia. i would look there. for example, we don't know. we don't know if we can come up with something here. for example, what would be the reaction of russians to defeat or the reaction of russians to shortages in the refrigerator? we don't know. we know again, i can only repeat what the discussion is about. some say the opposite, russia will unite
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around putin. they always unite around the leader. when they feel bad and they say otherwise, no, when you have nothing in the fridge, you are no leader, he is no leader, you do not want to associate yourself with there is the experience of the first world war, when the germans simply turned around and went home and fought fought fought fought and we see little so far, but signs that even in the russian army some do not want to fight, many do not. so this means that at some point they can tell us, let's not. goodbye, that's the same as what happened on the 11th of the 11th of 18th year, yes, that is, on november 11th of the 18th year, you just go. goodbye, because we didn't go let's fight more, i was convinced that this would happen in march, when russian soldiers died en masse near kiev and the coffins
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were taken to russia, and in russia, no one began to be suspicious of their authorities, despite the fact that the authorities said they would put everyone in prison but when your son is something not human, when the strong one dies it is not known for what it is not known where i am proud of my son . he died for the righteous. there is a right thing. that's all. and if it doesn't happen, this son is exactly the preservation of the people . question, you note that joining nato should protect ukraine from a new attack on us , just like the baltic countries, and not knowing war, russia should not dare, but if joining ukraine is such an idea fixed by the russian political elite, and putin himself considers it necessary to do this in the course of their lives, nato politicians may
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fear that this will put them under an additional radar, the answer is no, i do not believe that , i am absolutely convinced that everything is changing, despite the fact that we understand the stability of the russian regime, but i am convinced that putin has something too. this is yesterday's statement by the russian foreign ministry that let's be friends only with crimea, donbass, let's give it this way. well, i'll tell you that there is something else, in a different way, there is russia and there is a block that has nuclear weapons. if we imagine that russia is ready to fight, then there is no discussion at all. sex, then he can capture the baltic countries , that is, if they do not respond to him with nuclear weapons. and this is a normal war, so he can try to do anything if they realize that war between nuclear states is impossible, and nato - it was just for countries that have nuclear weapons so this is the full stop, believe me, there will be no additional blow to nato if ukraine joins
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nato. that’s why there will be no focus, no cry , nothing else will happen now to finland, the idea of ​​a fix for putin really isn’t, it’s not ukraine’s accession to nato, but this precisely the accession of ukraine and other former soviet republics why because if we join nato anyone, it means that he can no longer attack why was there such a hysteria ukraine cannot be a member of nato no and why and because otherwise we will not be able to enter the its territory, you , then president biden will say we strike at the decision-making centers, this is a decision, he can say it like putin, and putin will have nothing to answer, of course well, how was it to strike us strategically with nuclear weapons, and we strike you well ok, but it's nothing, the fact that we're yours doesn't mean that it fell from the sky, who will destroy you first, you him or he you, it's a completely different game, it's not a game from ukraine , because a game with ukraine is a game from the russian fable about krylov's wing about wolves lamb, what are you talking about with
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what i want to eat? listen, i have one more idea, so that there would be no exception to nato. putin would attack ukraine, but he can't, of course, tomorrow he is coming. there is no ukrainian language, so that everything is prohibited . the ukrainian language is only russian. and what will he attack to say? well well, take away crimea, we sign everything it's not just a piece of paper, it's not words, mykola, because he considers all of ukraine to be russia, so that ukraine wouldn't do all these conversations, if the wrong law hadn't been adopted, then it would have been like this, do you remember how all these idiots said, oh, this is the law they were offended about the regional conditions there in donbas and what did they do there for what did they rebel there in donbas what did they themselves do
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that the russian saboteurs came but when people in donbas rebelled it was during the maidan when there were thousands of demonstrations of people in donetsk and in luhansk and when they say oh, there are separatists and it's not true, there are hostages of the occupation regime and of course there are people who work for the occupation regime, there are not many of them, when i say let's free this territory , these people just need to be punished as they always punish collaborators, create here correctly 10-15 matches, most of them flow to russia, and there are ordinary people who were simply captured first and, of course, scoundrels always appear in any occupied country, and there are also people who want to live somehow. this is also clear. this is also present today on in the afternoon, i was very busy in the morning. i read something there and i was very impressed that the collaborators are now running back. they were promised loot. they went to serve in russia. they waited two months. there is no loot. so what the
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hell ? we will serve ukraine. we will not serve russia. by the way, the story of north macedonia, if we have already mentioned integration from history, because without the second world war , when the second world war took place, the entire territory of the then yugoslavia was occupied by the germans and italians, and this territory was taken by bulgaria, which was hitler's ally, so bulgaria came, which, in principle, the macedonian language is more similar to bulgarian than to serbian, obviously, and then, in fact, there was no uprising against the bulgarians. for a long time, even the communists tried to organize until 1944, they did not have such a partisan movement there they could organize, but they did organize, and macedonia remained a part of yugoslavia and then became an independent state, now the bulgarians tell them well, you have to admit that it was non-occupation and this is it union, let's admit that there is no macedonian
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language, otherwise we won't let you into eurosoy and they say and what about the occupation but you were the soviet union so hot hitler occupied his slavia you came together with the windy occupied this territory what does it matter that you they thought about us, what did we think about you, did you occupy chile? well, there were already people who also considered themselves bulgarians, they already uh well, in short, you know a wonderful story about the fact that bulgarians are very proud of the fact that all bulgarian jews in the territory of macedonia, which was announced part of bulgaria, everyone died, ice was the leader of the macedonian national liberation movement, the main figure of the bulgarian politician, who was of jewish origin, as is often the case with national leaders and a bulgarian, he was taken out before all the macedonian jews were sent to the constitution of the concentration camp, they saved him alone because he was a symbol of bulgarianness and somehow they could not allow that he died in a concentration camp, they simply considered him bulgarian, unlike the
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germans. so, it's the 44th year now, since 2022, and it's already 17 years ago, this was a question that was always asked in bulgaria. why did they save their own jews and not these ones? if you considered them all bulgarians, why did these jews mean something? they understood that these were different bulgarian territories. and by the way, the bulgarian prime minister, boyko borysovych, who was recently prime minister, it seems to me only two years ago, he came to the commemoration ceremony of these people because the bulgarians did not want to know and think about it, i will give you examples, i was specially doing reconnaissance in odesa, why in odessa there were pogroms. well, when the germans came and so on, and i say, for some reason, there were much fewer riots in bukovina , because russia had no romanian troops. it turns out that for the romanians, who were in odesa and in
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bukovina , bukovina is its own. sometimes it is almost romanians. it's not surprising. you have to look at the jews, because you can say these macedonians, oh, you're bulgaria, well , second-rate, and a jew is no longer bolgana . the jewish cemetery is huge, which has not been destroyed , you can see the years of death, which were, that is, not destroyed, and in odessa, there are no, no, no, no , you could not be a jew, only dead, no more . so, we still have a lot more, dear mykola and vitaly. - will nuclear weapons be used in this war, or will everything remain a kind of nuclear blackmail, and what will be the reaction of europe and the united states in the event of a
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possible pre-emptive strike on russia or belarus ? by the way, i don’t know why absolutely there is even a system of evidence, but now is the time. why do you have an honest system of evidence, just not? the first strike will be from west to west. it will prevent the bombing of london or new york from russia with russian missiles . in general well, the strategic one cannot be thrown at kyiv, because it will fly to kyiv and lviv will fly it somewhere, all the way there, there are western tactical nuclear weapons, in fact, well, this is the question why. this is our question, what will it change? the doctrines that i would have been told by the experts there, they say that, in principle, the russians have no
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desire to hit ground targets somewhere over the atlantic, a nuclear charge explodes, then the bell rings hello white house my name is putin they understood that we can aha that's right we are we know that you can no, well , we know that what military experts say that the idea so that is what it is, but i am absolutely convinced that it is not that the intelligence is watching from morning to night. i'm calling you bastard putin, i don't care, i know , because i can do it too, and what is waiting for putin, as a gangster , we know that gangsters measure themselves, putin thinks. if he called me, he didn't tell me . i would start to win constructively, so i, for my part, think that even biden would surrender if i
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launched a nuclear bomb. i don't believe in it, i'm absolutely convinced that the western world, which is much more developed and has much more opportunities, has more already johnson had already said that we will get mr. putin where he is and he will not be able to save himself there, what is interesting is that this was said in april and something after that, somehow putin stopped talking about it so often, all by himself, and we thought that the bunker was so cozy and pleasant and you, no, no, no, my friends who deal with development and they say listen, well, it won’t happen. i’m saying why, he ’s clinging on. a person who is going to wage a nuclear war will not do botox to himself. a person who does.
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he clings to himself. but he was always like that, i can see that with them, out of the two of them, you used to go on a bandit trip - under the gate, you don't know. he just wants to watch more on the screen, he's tiny, tiny, such a little person and he dresses. of many such real meetings there is a jacket like this, he has all his pants falling out of him. that means they are pants. you can't see the boots because they are long and they are kind of huge. it means he looks like some kind of pioneer. it means his parents bought him for the ninth grade. he's still in the sixth or ninth grade, don't buy anything, he
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walks like a wrestler like that, like a buratin, this is it, by the way, it's interesting that people don't look like themselves when they appear on television, everything looks normal in life, everything looks terrible in life by the way, medvedev so not he dresses he dresses normally he just looks like that no no no no no yes exactly yes but he dresses in the size of lukashenko without a tv he just looks so old cipolino if according to cipolino because he is lukashenka's age, that is, some kind of giant carcass also in some kind of square jacket it is in size and on the head such and such an onion such a big onion with eyes and do you remember how he came to from thin, after all, vlada gives first to food, he looked like, but still, i saw him so young i am putin i have not personally seen you with him, i even talked to him once there in the 90s and he was thin, so all
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tepid, but he still liked jackets that are so wider, by the way, this is a signal like this, for whom if a person buys for enlighteners and whether or not being tall even 1.85 m, how many politicians i see for myself is wearing heels. what do you want? what do you want to prove? that is, they all walk in heels. yes , well. yes yes it's true horror no these are not figurines, these are heels, women have beautiful women, and bandits do not have heels, what do i want to say, i have a question, come on,
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we need 5 more minutes. you understand what's happening, were about paid, i don't fully understand the word risks in this context, i wouldn't use it, listen, war - it's a real risk to imagine that russia came and said, oh, we won't steal your grain, we'll give it away. we we will open the ports, please, you can export it, please, you can do it, it is all impossible, so when ukraine will be able to sell grain, it will be a great success, but if it cannot, it will be nothing . in ukraine, we know the behavior of the russians, and i am very calm about everything that is happening on the russian side, they cannot and will not behave differently, so if there is even a small amount of money
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from the sold grain, first of all, i will be very surprised i will be surprised, and secondly, i will say well then, thank you here if the turks gave the opportunity to the ukrainians to sell what belongs to ukraine, this must be some kind of argument that we do not know about. which we have already talked about. it seems to me that a meeting is not perfect, but a meeting is definitely a meeting. and it seems to me that this meeting will be determined by mykola, because in principle , this meeting should show the big picture well, i thought to myself well, yes, yes, the 19th is not so long , there are four days left, and this meeting should show us that what argument does erdogan have to
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putin , or does he have one at all ? let's get to the end, the russians say that all their proposals have been approved in ukraine, this is very contradictory information, but we will say it well. what a yes, one of the conditions not to sell is that america does not provide missiles that fly 300 km, and then ukraine will be able to sell the grain is also conspiratorial or not conspiratorial, it is very strange to combine one with the other, we can imagine it, putin always combines, not a combination well, it is important to say that in this whole package of sanctions that is currently being discussed by the european union, it is specially emphasized that there are no sanctions on trade with russia grain with third countries, that is, they are ready not to limit russian criteria, there is such a question: if putin wanted there to be no famine, why would he withhold his
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grain? he also withholds his grain. the question arises why, if we knew, ukraine can't sell its grain there, the food crisis is now many say we have to do something to overcome this food crisis, but no one prevents russia from selling its grain, its ports are not blocked putin now, in fact, he needs in in principle, we see it in the period that something in the third world started there, the question arises to europe europe yes, so that they all ran there yes yes and the europeans began to agree with him on something i do not understand the logic, but if i am putin, why should i unblock the whole flow. if i want to achieve hunger, we will see if he is blackmailing with hunger , blackmailing with cold, even if there is no gas and war. that is, it is a nuclear trade. in fact, no nuclear bomb is needed. if there is a war, where is the cold? you can take a white sheet, this is what it says. isn't this one in the cemetery, and the question arises, why is he...
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listen, something is happening there, because i'm looking . so you started to mention the cold, i'm looking at kazakhstan. well, friends. well, friends, and he does everything to make kazakhstan stop being a friend. of course, he does everything. because he wants to attack him i think why no why why why will ukraine limit it i don't know i he passes it it i guarantee that we have that the end we have the end of our conversation with mykola in september and i am fine so that we have absolutely relations look at us carefully, we are the first member of the european parliament as soon as ukraine formally becomes a european country good luck ladies and gentlemen radio svoboda in mykolaiv russian missiles hit two universities what is it trying to do

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