because a long, long time ago, they reported to that grandfather in the kremlin that, in principle, they had already reached the administrative borders of the luhansk region. well, somehow they ended up in such a way that every day soldiers die there and they lose equipment, and that's the first thing it concerns the occupied part. and for me, this is a real statement. this statement was made, that is, i understand that the partisan movement is working there. i understand that these people are in danger, they risk their lives, of course, but they are there, how does it affect the occupiers and, er, a reversal of the fact that life is there will deteriorate clearly or it may contribute to the fact that the partisan movement, but at least the resistance of the population, it will increase , ah, the partisan movement, it seems to me that the history of the world says that no one has ever won, it was the partisans years ago. i really hope for the help of such people such a

movement that they will certainly make their contribution. well, plus, we see how powerfully western weapons work, and how accurately they are used by our ukrainian armed forces because there are a lot of warehouses with ammunition a in the last week destroyed deep in the rear of the enemy and we see that , you know, in the near future, after all, uh, they will have a significant decrease in the number of shelling, because it is not possible for you to renew such a quantity of ammunition quickly enough, plus they are already afraid to deliver and make such formations, so i think that they will to work from the wheels, as they say, that is, somewhere to load the cars with snares and drive them directly to the front line. and this is not a simple

, difficult process, and it will still slow down the following. they mobilized a lot by force and possibly lured some money, i understand more by force, in order of priority, they mobilized local residents in the territory of the so-called dpr, lpr, well, part of the ukrainian territory in this horde. and now i know that they resort to this practice again because there are fewer people - less and less, as far as it is possible and whether the local people are somehow trying to counteract this, the people who are now under all the occupations for a long time eh, well, eh, there is no special eh result now, eh, and there will not be, because it is very they have already mobilized many men and they are either already killed or ah wounded, or someone somewhere is still fighting eh, what did they just not resort to, that is, at first it was some kind of voluntary forced, then

exclusively forced during the first wave of eh mobilization then the people could somehow redeem themselves because the mobilization was carried out by the ukrainians, now the mobilization is already being done by the fsb-shniks and they are no longer selling the so-called indulgence, that is, they are recruiting everyone. they are now even doing such, you know, cunning manipulations in the occupied part, that is, until for example, they can place an ad that men are needed to work in a utility company and the salaries are two to three to four times more than a-a such a b job cost well in normal times e and as soon as e some men come and get a job , then the next day they are already served with a summons , sent to the military, so the situation there is very, very sad. please tell me, but in these territories

that have now been captured by the enemy, we are talking about lysychansk and severodonetsk, but they interpret it very ambiguously the behavior of the people who stayed, some call them greedy, some maybe couldn't, some didn't want to leave there, they show a video of them coming with some humanitarian woman, well, they are generally condemned for various reasons, let's say i don't condemn, because i understand that i wasn't there, i didn't experience it i did not leave or stay because of that, but i would like to know your opinion as a person who is more informed about what kind of people these are and whether these occupiers who came are somehow giving them something to live on. well, because you bought territory, you are responsible for these people, whatever the reason, they will remain why do they like russian peace or not, it doesn't matter what is there now, what is the situation with this most necessary provision and again if we are talking about what kind of people these are, is it impossible now to talk about the percentage of those who mean that peace was waiting for the russians and those who actually fell into a trap, please a-a well, you know, after all, there were enough opportunities to leave because, well

, every day, we called everyone leave in the evacuation was constantly helped with this, and at the beginning the evacuation was generally easy enough for the people, because i mean logistical, because the railway regiment was still working, then the closer the front line got closer, the denser the shelling, the opportunities were destroyed little by little logistical, i.e. first they broke the railway track that enters the luhansk region. then they started breaking bridges. well, and so on, but those who remained in the occupied territory still had the opportunity to leave. well, to say that 100% is up to you can't do them like that because people have completely different destinies , er, someone is elderly, well, somehow i don't see my future somewhere, er, in another place and that's how they

thought that we were born here, we were born here and we will die, someone maybe thought that somehow it will pass the shelling will not fly right here, the very exit of the apartment or house, and that's why it will somehow pass, eh, completely different situations, but there were zhduns, eh, we understand it, eh, and you can't do anything here, eh, sometimes there were even situations when we arrived somewhere er, humanitarian kits were brought to some shelter and they just told us in direct text, listen, let's quickly give the humanitarian worker to go, because we are waiting for our boys here. well, everything is clear, but, well, people are the same, and not everyone there is like that. of course, as far as aid is concerned, well, listen, we transported humanitarian kits every day with tapes, where were the products and medicine and hygiene kits eh and some

water filters if the invaders came to at that time, before the invasion, our cities were absolutely peaceful and there was no holiday for the fact that a person went and bought a loaf of bread or any food there. we did not have such problems at all, and even in our thoughts there was no problem. may not be enough. well, who was waiting? well, he also waited for such a russian peace. i thank you very much for the information. take care and thank you for yours. that is, serhii gaidai, the head of the luhansk regional military administration, was in touch with us. we

heard the latest information from luhansk oblast, which the enemy never succeeded in completely occupying it. although they did not praise themselves for it, well, now we will move a little further from the front, but you know now. wherever you are from the front, there is danger everywhere, because the enemy does not see the difference between hitting military facilities or those facilities where civilians are located in vinnytsia, search operations continue for people who have not yet been contacted by their relatives, rescuers are working for the second day in a row in their turn, and the townspeople have begun to bring down flowers. what toys are there to the place of arrival of enemy missiles as the city is recovering from the tragedy, more details in our story vinnytsia in mourning, the townspeople bring flowers there, what toys to the square in front of the household building, the day before, the russian occupiers hit the center of the city with cruise missiles, launching them from a submarine in the black sea area, as a result of the shelling, 23 people were killed, three of them

children there is currently no information about 11 people . rescuers are looking for them under the rubble. dry work is ongoing. dog handlers are working. pyrotechnics are being checked. there is destruction of the structure, yesterday there was a large-scale fire and it was eliminated, but the dog experts have to check all the basements and all the rooms because the area of ​​the movie concert hall is large, so about 150 personnel are involved, more than 20 pieces of equipment, tractors are working as a whole at night, communal services cleaned the area and the surrounding areas so that the equipment could, at the same time, remain difficult for us today, 15% of them, four are in critical condition in eh hospitals, eh, we have three left today children are mostly shrapnel injuries of soft

tissues, fractures eh as a result of shrapnel wounds eh, there are many ackobarotraumas, i.e. such eh injuries as a result of eh shock wave eh, but in a critical condition, in a serious condition, mostly burn patients are definitely among them e two burn patients in critical condition, we understand when e-e the percentage of damage is more than 90%. this is an extremely critical condition, and there are such patients after a rocket attack in the city. several dozen people are suspected of adjusting the fire and cooperating with the enemy of these cities which must be examined and recorded, counterintelligence

continues to carry out integration measures, interrogations of people who were present here who may know something and give evidence for the investigation, rescuers are working for a second day without a break after the rubble will be dismantled, one of the houses that was hit by russian rockets is planned to be demolished, the fate of the other will be decided by an expert commission, this building will be subject to demolition, so that this building will be i understand that the interest has stopped, this is an inspection, but still , there will be demolition or major repairs because that we do not know, that is, there is an understanding that these two buildings will be demolished, the community will decide what should be here in this place, which objects and when they will be built. to repair the cracks, there were at most

some critical objects, what happened, the walls were cracked, the plaster was hit, the head of the city says that all houses damaged by rocket fire will be restored at the expense of the city budget, and people will be given temporary shelter where a commission has been created, there is an administration and local self-government bodies determined by the water, an examination has been carried out and for the retention of funds for damage, but we will not wait and the restoration will be carried out in the near future under the procedural leadership of the vinnytsia regional prosecutor's office, a pre-trial investigation has been started in the criminal proceedings based on the facts of violation of the laws and customs of war, which is combined with intentional murder, how do we include pavlo rozenko in the conversation he is the vice-president of the red cross society of

ukraine not earlier than this in the government of the prime minister of mr. pavlo i congratulate you i congratulate you good evening we will now talk about the tragedy about the consequences of help for people but i very briefly wanted to ask here we see already what uh, in terms of numbers, a terrorist act by the enemy is an outright terrorist act, and we still only write appeals to recognize russia as a terrorist country, is it even possible or not? well, i think that this is very serious. it depends on the work of our diplomacy, of course, from this is from the unity of the anti-putin coalition, and it is definitely not about the fact that it started in vinnytsia, because let's not forget that every day kharkiv is being shelled every day . also, together

with the emergency services of the red cross society, our volunteers, our rapid response units work in the rubble, that is, the donetsk region, the luhansk region, uh, they are actually under daily shelling. and the most important thing is that it is being violated today, the geneva conventions and international civil law, international civil law, which was recorded at the level of the united nations , which clearly established that civilian infrastructure, starting from hospitals, educational institutions, residential buildings, etc., cannot be under fire we see, in particular, in vinnytsia, if we go to vinnytsia, a civilian object was destroyed, e

. please tell me when the international law of the un is not fulfilled and ignored by the russian federation, the entire world community is definitely here to determine what needs to be changed in these rules to prevent this from happening in the future, sir, today i would like to ask how to involve the red cross, e.e. the red society the cross of ukraine to the help of people, what kinds of needs do people have, how complex are they, and is it possible to cover as much as possible those needs that exist today, please, well, without need, they are completely different and even but in those still there are needs with which people turn to the red cross, in particular if we

take western e.e. ukraine, there is definitely a huge number of forcibly displaced people, so part of the people returns to the occupied to the de-occupied territories, but the daily evacuation of people from the donetsk luhansk region from mykolaiv from the zaporizhia region and from the kharkiv region, which are also moving, not including to western ukraine, therefore the load on the infrastructure is huge, unfortunately, in there are no significant people, that is why there is a problem of assistance to forced migrants. and the red cross society gives and provides appropriate assistance in the form of money and humanitarian aid to the zone of our shelling and actually from the first minutes after the shelling takes place, and it was, by the way,

in vinnytsia in mykolaiv both in kharkiv and in kyiv, together with the state emergency service, the emergency units of the red cross society are on the scene and arrive immediately, and our main task is the provision of first-line medical aid here as well together with the doctors, we work in close cooperation, the doctors accompany the seriously injured to medical institutions, and at this time our volunteers of the red cross society continue to work, providing first medical aid to those people who are in that condition, in particular, and psychological help , in particular, 500 we were literally

40 seconds, but i am very sorry for interrupting you. and i would also like to hear your opinion about the resignation of minister of social policy maryna lazebna, she was resigned, what does this mean in your opinion and whether now, even this person who can be professionally responsible for this very important sector in the sector in the work of the government, please well, i think that we should definitely hear the comment of self-marina lasernaya first, because she has to present her arguments, i want to say that well, marina is a serious specialist and she was, believe me, not the worst, or perhaps one of the most effective ministers of the current composition of the government . in ukraine, there have not always been interactions and different views, so to speak. the question is that of the

candidates that are being discussed today in the mass media. to be honest, i do not see a person today who could effectively replace her, so i have great concerns about who will be next . minister and whether he is capable in this difficult time for the country to really pull this difficult social sphere. thank you very much for your work. thank you for your comments. professionals pavlo rozenko, vice president of the red cross society ukraine was in touch with us, he was also with the prime minister of ukraine, er, now i am adding to the conversation serhiy zgurets, he is the director of defen express and the host of the military summary of the day section. to begin with the question, literally, what is the news, the american m-270 multiple-launch rocket systems have arrived in ukraine, stated the minister of defense of ukraine, oleksiy reznikov, tell me more about what it is,

what we can talk about, not volumes. well, in general, how can this change the situation in the combat zone actions please, for today, the city will be defended by a different maker , because he gave several interviews on various issues and this evening on twitter announced that these m-270 installations had just arrived in ukraine. they differ from hummers in that there are actually two packages of e- e guides instead of one more in himers , that is, twice as many such fiery gifts can be sent to the enemy actually. this, in fact, and in my opinion, there is a certain e-e peculiarity , because hymers are fast, it is difficult for the

enemy to hunt them, and to move e-e, the mrs will have to use trailers on the roads so that i can reduce the pace of its movement and speed in minecraft. at the same time, i i think that it is more directly british aggression, because germany and the netherlands, which also announced the announcement of the delivery of these systems to ukraine, still have certain features, because the german ones need to be finished and the dutch ones also need to be finished. so what is this i think directly, just the first british samples of such weapons by mr. serhiyev well, now let's move on to the situation on the fronts er, of course, we are all happy now because er, we are not just happy, we are crazy with happiness, realizing that the heimersud during its operation has already hit 30 enemy targets this is the headquarters and warehouses of equipment and the accumulation of troops there

and the forces and means of the enemy. therefore, this is good and good news for us, but i would like to know the situation in the east of our country and in the south. which is more important because hm is the most important and what is also important, because let's say there are already rumors that , for example, in kherson oblast, some occupiers change into civilian clothes like those of kyeryn in st. petersburg and flee from kherson oblast, and even those who worked there have already vacated the premises of the kherson oblast state administration. can we talk about the fact that there is panic? you should relax so much and think that kherson region will reach us so easily, please. actually, i would n't accept the readiness of the enemy to leave the south and kherson so easily, because in addition to this information that you mentioned, there is another thing that in a significant amount of equipment is being based on the kherson side, that the enemy is trying to strengthen its engineering facilities there using concrete systems and so on, if i think that the battle

for the south will be and by the way, the minister of defense already mentioned us, er, varshikov in an interview in the fonenshchyna show, the times said about the fact that by the end of the year we will see a powerful counteroffensive, probably just with bearing in mind the situation with the rooster, although in an interview with the bbc he began to talk about the fact that he does not actually give instructions to the alkaline general staff that actually the general staff itself plans the operations, actually it is about the implementation of the plans that the president made regarding the liberation of all of ukraine from the enemy, they are not clean now and are happening with a cover for foreign aid and planned actions of the armed forces of ukraine. so i think that the south really has all the prerequisites to be liberated first, but all this requires planned work on the preparation of relevant e-e reserves and a clearly established operation. well,

let's continue to talk about the technique . techniques of foreign, british, european , american, what can you do, i don't know how to play some games, these are intellectual. well, attacks, what kind of thing is this? and are enemies afraid of it to the point of losing consciousness, just like heimers, please and will it really be organized in our organization much more precisely, the rammstein 4 meeting, which was connected with the expansion of the list of military aid in ukraine, may relate to the discussion of the supply of attack missiles to ukraine, i.e. missiles that are capable of such artificiality directly jumaris can make an impression up to 300 km , although the most optimistic policy began to mention about modern missiles that the americans have instead of up to 500 km, but even the american army does not have such missiles in

silver of this type, so for now it is in an ideal version we will be able to get up to 300 km of systems that will really change the situation on the battlefield even more than himax by the way logistics, they begin to drag the brigade reserves 100 km from the contact line, and the corps reserves 150, that is, our strikes on their warehouses, we can see them , were extremely painful, and now the enemy. this logistics, and in addition to magists, will also allow the destruction of command posts that are at home and, in principle, our favorite point targets, which we are still forced to solve by other means, using aviation or in another way. well, if russia deconserves, well, she has already deconserved the t-64 tanks,

maybe it will come to the t-55, then we are counting on those tanks that our partners from europe give us, and we are talking about quite good, good examples of equipment, in particular, polish tanks, i even saw a video somewhere today i don't trust such a video, we'll post it in telegram, but somewhere someone saw it, it means that these tanks are almost going to ukraine. it means, well, they look like russian t-72 tanks, if i'm not mistaken. again, if i'm not mistaken. now we'll correct it. can we calculate in the near future on these tanks and what can we expect from this technique, how can it show it in battle and can it still be useful, please , but in fact the situation about the transfer of solid tanks to ukraine, solid, that is, strong, we checked and so far, in fact, in addition to eh statements of influential n- polish bloggers of information n- confirming yet no no no no because it is said that only we, poland, will receive there 300 abrams tanks from the united states, so for now we will be able to transfer

solid ones to ukraine but i will say that for today 240 tanks of our t-72 versions have already been delivered directly to poland. today we found out that the americans are supplying poland with 116 old abrams, and i think that this will be just the impetus to increase the transfer of precisely these solid 240 t-72s directly to ukraine. have already been transferred and there are still about 200 solid ones, this is a very large number, this is almost 500 tanks from poland, this is actually uh, and the amount of which at one time the ukrainian side tried to knock out from the united states, saying that 500 tanks are needed there as we can see, poland can satisfy this need, and we will need the tanks to liberate the other half of the other regions of ukraine. well, i also saw that they don't give us armored personnel carriers, or even promise to send them from germany. well, i don't know if it's bmp is this an armored personnel carrier? what is its name? it doesn’t look like either. it’s a little different

, but that’s what i understand. it’s exactly what it does on the battlefield. what kind of things are these, and again, how many of them are we going to get, please? well , in fact, there is a need to get what you want them to be you call it an extremely necessary thing because we have significantly increased the number of new brigades and to increase their mobility we do not have enough of such equipment. and reliability, and we get batteries from other countries, but these steps should be implemented much faster, and right now we are waiting for rammstein 4, where the issue of

armored vehicles will also be raised, and from october, as emphasized by a representative of the ministry of defense, a rope-rope worker , will start lend-lease, and then, as it were, directly according to the proposals of the general staff, the american side can transfer a significant amount of equipment that is needed by the ukrainian army, and there are just fractionated bradleys and other vehicles, in particular, the m113, and other samples that are badly needed . exactly. to increase the mobility of our e-e existing and newly created brigades, thank you very much for your comments, and in the field, this is serhiy gorets. my colleague is the presenter of the military summaries of the day column and the director of the defense express agency about the technology about the situation at the front, now. about the situation in the world, which is constantly changing , we are especially interested in what concerns ukraine and its

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