ukraine in the heart then and now kharkiv invincible, we are those who, side by side, as brothers, beat the teeth of the enemy in the battles for the gostomel airfield, defended kyiv and kharkiv, held that from the invaders with a precise shot, shot down enemy planes and burned the tanks of the occupiers, we firmly hold the formation, we are yours protection and security, ukraine, we are the national guard, someone takes life, someone gives it, but there are those who regret something of

theirs, she went to earn money. what do you want my children to starve to death, or that, frankly, olya polyakova, they stabbed you , everything, as if he died, this is terrible bullshit will anyone need my songs about how the country has changed before her eyes, this beautiful ukrainian nation, it is impossible for anyone to ever overcome her own children on her hand when she goes to school, putin, oh, i say why are you writing this, what does she say to never forget sundays in on the 21st, see an interview with olga polyakova. this is her live concert from the maidan

nezalezhnosti metro station. of ukrainian prisoners of war in russia and provide them with legal support, this is the task of the pow search project, which was founded by independent rights defenders , among them lawyer mykola polozov, who a few years ago helped captured ukrainian sailors how to save those whose fate is unknown is it possible to exchange prisoners of war in the near future and will lawyers be able to to help those who are threatened with the death penalty by illegal ldr groups in an exclusive interview with a public organization with whom we are trying to reconcile on prisoners of war, and secondly, to provide necessary help to them. i congratulate you. please tell me what is known now about ukrainian prisoners of war in russia. how many are there and in what conditions are they currently

there? unfortunately, there is very little information. according to different sources , about 6-7,000 people are inserted if we are talking about prisoners of war, that is, those who were related to the armed forces of ukraine, the national guard , the second division, that is, a combatant. er, the content is also completely different, parts of them are contained directly on the territory of russia , part in occupied crimea and part on the territory of the so-called dnr of the lpr as for the overall er situation, all parts of the russian government hide their location and in this sense er е поиск и очабание е-е legal assistance poliativny pomości a-а ukrainian воонепленным we will make it substantially more difficult , in your opinion, why is the russian government constantly hiding

the location and state of health of those whom it captured, well, first of all, in order to to avoid the prying eyes of war crimes committed against prisoners of war because it is quite obvious that the russian authorities violate the third provision of the geneva convention, which provides for the rights of prisoners of war, and so far in russia there is no reference bureau that requires the conventions. well, in principle, we understand that the russian authorities are denying the fact of war he calls it a military special operation that is taking place, and the educational ones that are trying to relate to the new direction indicate that many of them are on it. by the way, the exchanged prisoners of war said that they don't receive the appropriate food allowance, they don't receive medical aid, that is, the russian authorities are actually trying to hide their crimes. however, i

know that you and your colleagues have launched a new project aimed at to help get as many people out of russian captivity as possible, what kind of project is this and do you think that it is based on the conditions created by the russian authorities. can he be successful ? the ukrainian government is dealing with the return of prisoners of war. unfortunately, this is a huge task, since the number of prisoners of war during the second world war has never been such a large amount. i have previously had experience working to protect ukrainian prisoners of war, in particular, the division of ukrainian military sailors was then formed. a team of lawyers who performed the necessary actions that ultimately led to a positive result.

situation, i considered that my experience, my skills, too , could be useful, could help the ukrainian authorities to return their people as soon as possible, so i joined forces with a number of human rights organizations with whom we are really asking first of all, there are a number of people, and secondly, to provide them with the necessary assistance. this humanitarian project is called a humanitarian initiative. the search is full . in our opinion, it is two weeks since the launch of this project. since he started working, more than 750 applications have been received - this is a huge amount of extremely complex work. now we are systematizing the received requests and in the near future we are going to

begin directly the search activities, that is, establishing the location of the people who are being searched for in captivity, and accordingly if it is necessary to provide him with both palliative and legal assistance. no. war. how come your human rights defenders, e.e., independent lawyers, are not afraid to engage in such investigative activities? well, in fact, it is absolutely unsafe in the current conditions, fortunately in russia there are still people who have a conscience, who have an understanding of the situation , who are ready to help. it is these people that we work with. and uh, we hope that our work will be a small contribution to the overall cause of

victory . in the occupied territories of donetsk and luhansk regions, because we know that the so-called groups of the dpr and lpr actually implemented the death penalty in all territories and constantly threaten the people who were taken prisoner that they will actually be executed, do we have a chance to save them? i think there are chances it is necessary to act quickly , there was already a president when russian lawyers took part in the process of the so-called dnr, that is, we have a president too brave people who are ready to go there who are ready to prove the necessary help a chance to use eh, because of the m-m, even in those conditions, prisoners of war need protection. look, to go. i’m not even saying donetsk or

luhansk, even somewhere in the territory of the russian federation . money to actually pay for the work of these people, well , as for finances, as i already said, we interact with a number of non-profit civil organizations, human rights organizations, which have a certain resource, of course, we cannot to protect six or 7,000 people, it is quite obvious that the entire resource that we have, naturally, we will use to protect as many ukrainian prisoners of war as possible. by russian propaganda, and for this, and all these throwaways of information about the death penalty for those in the lpr, the dnr, some high

-profile cases, er, in a report on ntv, on russian television, about what terrible a-a non-humans we are yes, there are ukrainian prisoners of war here, you can er remember which soldiers you can remember the case of the azovs. but after that, strange things happen very often . some azovs are also exchanged. what is the logic of the russian authorities in these processes? why do they , despite such strict anti -ukrainian propaganda aimed at against the ukrainian prisoners, nevertheless, they periodically give them back. back well, here it is important to understand that the general trend is definitely aimed at the creation of some kind of border product - this will be cassation of pseudo-tribunals of the so-called where the domestic russian consumer was fed some kind of medical history, but when it

comes to any persons who are interested in russia, having shown everything in ukrainian captivity, then of course the propaganda picture goes to the second treasure to the first, a bad bare calculation and then it happens что надеть and in the bare calculation, as you say, that is, in fact, it is not profitable for them to keep such a large number of prisoners in themselves due to economic reasons, due to which it is quite obvious that everything the number of prisoners of war and it is not necessary to keep them at the moment only so that they do not return to ukraine and again they did not join the armed forces of ukraine and again with weapons in their hands they did not defend their role and most of them were in foreign planes the overwhelming majority would otherwise be returned in exchange there is some quantity that uh will be prosecuted here at these tribunals and to create this pro- figanist picture and here and first of all it will be very necessary to provide legal assistance and how can you now understand who

most likely, the russian government will not want to give it, so i think the opportunity should be approached in a mockery, that is, most likely, it is a-- commanders , most likely, it is representatives of the azov regiment, the most media persons, based on this principle, the russian government will, accordingly, use them here in these staged courts in these propaganda shows what i am asking is precisely this because i am sure that someone from those who are relatives of prisoners of war in the russian federation will watch our interview with you, and i want to hear from you advice for these people, how they should act to get their friends, acquaintances, parents, brothers , sons out of captivity, well, first of all, it is necessary to contact the body, which is now dealing with the issues of the war of prisoners, this is the main management of

rozetke , of course, the defense of ukraine. a prisoner of war can be applied to our project, we have an open telegram channel called search for polon, there are request forms, you can put the necessary information, you will be contacted. i will tell you what you need to do next and uh, accordingly, well, the main thing to keep in mind is to understand and remember that every prisoner of war will return home for everyone, ukraine will fight, not one of its people, then don’t throw in a little bit of your outside assessment. how do you think this militaristic hungary, which is certainly being observed if you watch the russian media, of course, how much he is in reality is in reality and oh how simple russians are really against ukrainians and, accordingly, against ukrainians prisoners, well here it is important to understand that the vast

majority still support putin's course, they still support the government, but they support it passively, yes, they repeat the mantras that are constantly repeated to them on tv, yes, they hate america, yes, they hate ukraine and ukrainians, but if we he says that these people were ready to stand up under arms at the kremlin's call, they were ready to go and die in the trenches. no, the majority are not ready. that people simply will not go to it. what do you think, are these russian prisoners of war who are currently in the territory of ukraine and are being held as prisoners of war by their relatives, or can they also unite through their own lawyers, defenders of human rights defenders to inform the russian authorities of the necessity

of the fact that it is necessary to carry out a full-scale exchange as soon as possible. is it impossible now ? will not unite. on what grounds, and even if there are some local issues related to prisoners of war, then either these people are somehow likened to repressive pressure, or, well, in some cases, they give out some money to keep people silent, and it is said that the relatives of russian prisoners of war who are in ukraine ready to oblige, i will honestly say such trends if allowed, i would like to ask you a personal question, you are russian and now you are actually helping ukrainian e-e sailors before now it is a matter of military service for prisoners of war to get out of captivity and

return to the motherland. how do other russians with whom you communicate treat you? are there people from your circle of communication who approached you and said everything ? the people with whom you spoke have a positive attitude towards your organizers, well, let's say that i have such a circle of communication that for more than 8 years, the first russian-ukrainian military officer to pay for the crimea, no one from those who surround me has ever told me that the protection of ukrainians a-a fight for the freedom of ukraine for the liberation of the territory is a bad thing, maybe it is, well, that's an approach to the formation of my neighbor's circle . thank you very much for your initiative . i hope that all the prisoners of war

will return home soon. the world congress of ukrainians to support the ukrainian army, the president of the congress, pavlo grot, told about this in an interview with the public, according to him, ukrainian communities around the world have been supporting the army in ukraine since 2014, in particular with arms, our colleague olena removska spoke with pavel grod about how the congress will seek to cancel canada's decision on the supply of turbines for the russian gas pipeline in europe and about how the criticism of the ukrainian leadership by the american congresswoman victoria

spartz was received in the congress. thank you for your time, you always mention the figure of 20 million ukrainians abroad in your interviews, now the figure of 5 million ukrainian refugees has been added to these 20 million it's a pity that this means a challenge for the world congress of ukrainians, not to help the temporarily resettled or in-laws of the so-called refugees, but to help them as much as possible so that they can settle in their countries. in the world, they are working very actively, first of all, to find them housing, secondly, to find employment, and thirdly, to ensure that children should go to school, and they also work with their governments to stop the smoking of those countries. our people will come so that they create conditions

for our emigrants so that they can feel as comfortable as possible and also have access to ukrainian schools, have access to education and also actively come to ukrainian camps by plane over in the camp where we created for those who went from ukraine where their children so that they could feel good in the societies where they came and in the ukrainian world are very large, that is, there are ukrainian camps where children from ukraine are accepted in general of the world and these are our priorities to work with new, er, temporary transplants of ukrainians, these are now countries that can be said to be problematic in terms of the reception of ukrainian refugees or potentially become problematic in some perspective, i do not foresee problems i i would like to say

something, the democratic world has opened its doors and its thoughts to ukrainian refugees. i think that the question will begin, it will be the question of return. how do we hope that these people will return to ukraine? is also frankly speaking, there is a big threat near ukraine, that many of those people left, and that is why we discussed this issue in lugano, literally a week ago, in the form of the recovery of ukraine, where the recovery will be critical for these people to return to help in the reconstruction of ukraine. do you now see what points that the state should pay attention to right now, the plan is to return these people. well, this is the question of what they should do first so that, for example, children

have access to ukrainian education that ukraine recognizes so that they do not waste time and that they do not found maximum opportunities to er recognize er education the ukrainian language is written you are one of the people but there are many i see what i wanted countries encourage how many leaves of the education er from the point of view of even recognition of the diploma er these are all very important questions. but this will be a tab for us regarding the issue of return. but the first thing means priority from this victory, so we call on all new emigrants who came to the country of the world to shakhtar. they have already joined their ukrainian teams because there is also a very developed network of ukrainian organizations get help from them as needed, but the most important thing is that you also politically salt these public

organizations, because we now have some valuable new governments of ours all over the world, we need all the best narrow ones to join this work, another direction of your work is support of the ukrainian army, you mentioned the conference in lugano, and at the end of this conference there was a statement that the world congress would help the ukrainian government within the framework of the drone army project, that is, collecting money for drones for monitoring e of the border and the contact line, will this be the first experience when the world congress of ukrainians will participate in the purchase of equipment for the ukrainian army? is there already something? in the 14th year, and from the 14th

year, we started projects where we bought first aid kits for the military, added training on how to use these birds, this is also so that in the 13th year there is this experience, at the beginning of the war, since february 24, our teams actively joined and humanitarian points of view, but the main thing i want to tell about e-e entrepreneurs of this congress of ukrainians, let's unite with ukraine, join ukraine, e, in a month, three months, we gathered to sell 25 million dollars and bought e from us, we created a logistics center in poland, where we bought e equipment for the defenders of ukraine, where is the thermal imager, where are these fairy tales, when are these first- aid kits for vests, so that they are not immediately brought to the front lines, where it was on you, where you need the largest western one, so that they have as much protection as possible, it may be included there are no communication systems and drones, and it’s always

a lot of work. that’s why it was very important for us. there are the first projects that we agreed to work on, but we have such general frameworks as a partner. now it is yuriy anatoliy ford and the global express of ukrainians. we are thinking about the general assembly of the third form. i assume that you saw that both lithuanians and ukrainians were throwing money by the way, these are strike drones, slightly different drones from the ones you are currently planning to join the gathering for. was the idea of ​​fan-raising specifically for and for ukraine at the world congress of ukrainians, and it

was already also, and er, sniper rifles were buried by that project and handed over to our military. that is, there are some who do not want to give lethal aid. i say that when it comes to lethal aid, we have to join where, let's say, there is non- lethal. the defenders are in power, but there are donors who are ready to give lethal weapons . and we don't do it then does the world congress of ukrainians have leverage over the governments of various countries regarding the supply of heavy weapons to ukraine? yes, the question that is the most urgent for the ukrainian army right now is a permanent one, and it is on the first point of our show. when you go to the constitutional company, this is more military aid to the troops. e-e equipment e heavy equipment e and here and we work in

all countries of the world and we try to put pressure on the side of civil society, we constantly turn to surveys in our countries so that to understand how civil society behaves, it is not used to embarrass, then to drill, this is germany, this is italy, this is portugal, this is canada, this is australia, the united states, and this is a bed operation. that is, it is not in the first place. that is, we understand that we must win first. and before that you need er well, it is possible that the technique to do this was completed with observations of those countries that are still hesitating in the matter or in principle of heavy weapons or the scale and pace of delivery of this type of weapons, what is the reason for these hesitations according to your observations of communication with these governments, and i don't know, it's fear of russia, it's close business ties that they don't want to lose

. is waiting for the united states, what can be done , then they are here, well, at the same pace, you want to understand that there are many countries, canada does not have such a technique as, say, to read, but this does not give them a reason not to do something, and we are calling as for example , to use canada, because they don't have it, buy it it is possible to occupy such a technique, but each country has its own nuances, so it is important that our communities, what they are, or citizens in those countries or they have already lived in those countries for many years, they know how to talk to their politicians, how to talk to public society, so that to discuss this issue and those who cooperate with the ministry of foreign affairs and the ministry of defense to understand what is supplied and what is not supplied, that

we could accurately and effectively embrace these issues at the moment when we are writing this canada's conversation is now very popular in ukraine because of the decision to install a siemens turbine for the gas pipeline in germany. this decision outraged ukraine. i am sure you know the whole context . especially in recent months, it has become obvious that both nord stream 1 and nord stream 2 are also weapons for russia , including in this war, here it is just a matter of trying to see where it comes from and what it comes from germany and the united states they didn't hear that yesterday the parliament seems to

be thinking that they support canada 's decision. what does this mean? america put a lot of pressure on ukraine, it provided these german turbines, and it's not only musa. you already understand that not one turbine will go . a lot of turbines to go for two years, a permit to repair these turks, that is why we are not giving up, we will be strong. to say, that is, there will be maximum pressure even and we are considering the possibility of component processes. that is, this issue is not over, we cannot allow this, because it is a threat not only from this issue, but as i said today, president zelenskyi, this will lead to further blackmailing of russia, because they see how weak western and

especially german power is, another interesting piece of news this week is the statement of a member of the us house of representatives , victoria sparti, who expressed a number of claims against the leadership of ukraine and the office of the president and called on the head of the president's office to resign. what do you think about the statement made by victoria spark, who is also ukrainian by origin? i don't know if she has any relation to the world congress of ukrainians, but i'm sure that you will follow this story of such a compressive effect, sparks will not actively participate in the cooperation with the ukrainian public organization of the cluster of states, to our great regret, and this entire congress of ukrainians joined the statement of the ukrainian compress committee of america, which is a penny there was an organization of the world congress where we for him looked at the importance of what