so on the contrary, there is such a team that actually makes every effort so that we go out in armored personnel carriers, so simply, i didn’t hear either, i didn’t hear everything that mykola said, but i hope it’s better for me and mykola to be away from the bees today, july 16, the 32nd anniversary of the adoption of the declaration on the state the sovereignty of ukraine and mr. mykola i know that you were present in the hall when it was approved or not, it is terrible in general the only profession where age is everywhere age is bad it is better to be healthy young or healthy and young 32 years old i wonder why they told me then that you would give an interview i colleagues, after 32 years, i wouldn't believe it. yes, i was in the hall on the 16th. it didn't make any impression on me. i'll tell you right away. why. because it was a period in 90-91, when all the states of the former ussr were talking about something, adopting some

new legislation . balts, georgians, armenians , moldovans, ukrainians, and that's why it became the norm like it is now, unfortunately, when we were thinking about war in the first days, we were all afraid . everyone came down now it sounded like that and then, well , something so important was accepted there. everyone was satisfied. the dissidents were terribly satisfied. i was impressed by the others. i approached kravchuk, who had just become the chairman of the verkhovna rada, before that he was like that. gorbachev's company of the ussr and his place was taken by kravchuk. i think this is a great victory, this is something god said because it would not be difficult to do what kravchuk did. i

approached kravchuk and said, listen, it is difficult moved to moscow, how do you assess it here, he suddenly tells me something that i did not expect and since those times i have a very specific positive attitude towards the hook , i said i think all times are not easy for ukraine, he should have stayed in kyiv, what does this mean, this means that 79 years of soviet power when everything was exterminated and everything they say in the kremlin is this, well, this is absolutely true this is the divine truth and here is the second secretary of the central committee of the communist party of ukraine chairman of the verkhovna rada of the ukrainian ssr hello ukraine is still independent and he says this is a mistake right here bbc we just to someone there somewhere yes in the program vremya where everything was as they say veres yes and the bbc he openly says that i will give this is a mistake we have to think about something else and then i came to moscow there was no er there was no in kyiv

definitely i needed the british embassy there to talk about something i came to moscow and the ambassador met me and i told him this and from one second to the next i will leave i will go somewhere i need 5 minutes and run and come back satisfied and i say so well, they sent the encryption to london and that's because this information it was super important for the event that everyone were waiting for movements in ukraine. everyone understood that lithuania, latvia , 100 will not go, maybe georgia will go, but if ukraine starts to break away, then this is the collapse of the soviet union, which we are now. actually, after 33-2 years, we are watching. and he immediately wrote something to the ministry of foreign affairs of britain that there is such quite interesting information here that the ukrainian leadership is criticizing the center, this has not

happened since the 17th year, since the time of lenin, so what is that? i didn’t look at it as something like that. and you believed that ukraine would soon gain independence, and they didn’t believe that. pharm invented the formula. i flew to poland here very often at that time because poland was rebelling and ukraine was a little bit. so i say, i have the impression that the polish dissidents are toast in their or there oleg wałęsa, they would have in mind a free poland, a european ukrainian dissidents, i had the impression that we fought simply against the soviet government, where in the denominator there was no thought in the head that we would win because this is how the future should be, yes, in there was such an influx of them, they went around the prisons, the prisons , the kgb, torture, everything in the world, siberia. well, in

short, they all understood that millions of officers and soldiers of the soviet army, the kgb, these obkommissars and commissars, garkoms, and so on. this is such a power, such a force. i can't imagine that she can lose, no, no one can , and they just because they are honest people and they fought against the soviet government because it always lied and they just told the truth. well, for telling the truth, they were imprisoned there for 15 years 27 culture yes it was all good but it was all so carefully so neat, if in the baltics they always said in favor of independence , the first name of the movement was the people's movement of ukraine for perestroika, but in private, when you called the people's movement, not everyone dared because it was immediately there,

then i sat and looked at them as people who risked a lot because he would the people's movement for independence of ukraine and it was like that, i was like that because we understood that all the phones in russia are in parallel with the kgb. so these were the moments when you understood that everyone was taking a risk. everyone just knyazhytskyi veresen was released and many people would only be released from prison after 30 years. thank you for such interesting memories, and we have the next speaker, valentina shultz, deputy of the odesa district council. glory to ukraine, mrs. valentina, we congratulate you as a hero, glory to mrs. valentina, see the following question emotional i would say we see that and now in these seconds in these minutes, according to some data , as many as 40 du rockets have arrived here, the russians have released them on the territory

of ukraine and we understand that odessa is on the sea, we understand that it flies from the sea and then the question arises what is the mood of the people of odessa, because everyone understands that the russians want us all to be nervous, so that we, not them. and we asked our leadership, the president and the commander -in- chief. and we are with ours, what is the mood now in odesa? yes, but now i am in mykolaiv oblast. i came to mykolaiv from odesa only yesterday to visit our guys in odesa. today was restless, just like in mykolaiv oblast and all over ukraine. so that we

were nervous, but the people of odessa are not nervous, they are cleaning their weapons and are ready to meet the occupiers, that is why we are keeping calm and helping the armed forces of ukraine and the forced migrants who are currently in odessa in the kherson region of the mykolayiv region. we have an official enemy that in the morning shelled mykolaiv and mykolaiv district, and in the evening the lyman of the halytsyn community was also shelled. critical infrastructure facilities were damaged there, bashan district was damaged in the shirokiv community there, one residential building was destroyed, three were injured, two were injured, the villages along the dividing line of the berezhnogovetsk community will continue to be

destroyed . indeed, if you take there from the first er days of the war and when there was an attack on mykolaiv, there was much less shelling in the living quarters and much less damaged er civilian objects and infrastructure objects, now with the appearance in ukraine of a new of the newest weapons and the offensive of our armed forces of ukraine, we see how the occupiers are raiding all the cities of ukraine, eh, on civilian objects to cause panic among the population, and there are really a lot of destroyed eh schools and kindergartens there are also residential buildings in mykolaiv, unfortunately, and

one more question. i apologize for interrupting, but in mykolaiv , are there any shops open, is there food, is there water, is there medicine , a hospital, these are simple things in peacetime they are simple, but in wartime they are all not simple and we know that mykolaiv suffered from a lack of water and odesa helped a lot, what is the current state of affairs in mykolaiv a-a look, everything is available, pharmacies are open, shops are working as usual a-a but when the air is closed on an alarm well, these are the safety rules so that everyone goes to bomb shelters a-a everything is in mykolaiv in stock, but with the increase in rocket attacks, we see that there are a little fewer residents on the streets themselves, the streets are deserted, even

the central squares of the city are very few people, so it seems to me that the basement is being exposed, we see one thing that people remain in the mykolaiv region so much, but angelica asks, and people say that people have started to return, does this process continue or did it stop after this terrible story from the war with vinnytsia, when everyone realized that we are all going under under under under under death, what is wrong with people, people are returning now i can say that a lot of families are really returning. in the first days of the war, i was engaged in not taking out the families of military servicemen and civilians, and now

all these people are turning to me, they are coming back and asking to take them somewhere from the border and to bring them back home, and there is such a trend, and the majority still apply to return home and not leave now. for you to take them as far as possible and for the children to be in peace for a while they really work very well and every day buses are sent to switzerland and croatia to bulgaria to our international partners thank you ms. valentino valentina shults, a deputy of the odesa district council , was in touch with us and told us about the situation in odesa and mykolaiv oblast, where she is now directly with us, and andriy hryshko , a deputy of the vinnytsia regional council, unfortunately, only

the number of victims as a result of the russian missile attack on vinnytsia has increased up to 24 people, we have such data there , the rescuers have already completed the analysis of the debris mr. andrii, glory to ukraine, you are with us. tell us how vinnytsia is recovering. after this terrible tragedy , which was once again committed by a terrorist act in russia the federation today is the third day after the rocket attack on vinnytsia and today is already the first burial of the first dead. unfortunately, today such mourning processes take place both in vinnytsia itself and in the surrounding villages, because the dead are not only from the city of vinnytsia, from the vinnytsia region and even outside the borders of the vinnytsia region, so today vinnytsia is once again in mourning for the second day and the number of people in vinnytsia has now decreased. we can see that in fact there are very, very few people on the streets, very few people leave their homes, we will be cars

if you compare, for example, with thursday or wednesday before the rocket attacks, i would say that the number of people on the street decreased by five, even this was a typical situation that during thursday and friday, since next to vinnytsia the border with moldova is literally 120 km away there was even a queue of cars leaving the city of vinnytsia in the direction of moldova in order to leave the city of vinnytsia as soon as possible. everyone is sure that there will be repeated explosions in the direction of rocket flights . please tell mr. andriy, and many people say that the people that the residents of vinnytsia and lviv and kyiv simply got used to the war. if it was sudden enough, no one would have believed in such a possibility. do you see the logic here that people looked around , a month passed, two passed, nothing is flying in, somewhere you are sirena well, because with her well let's go to the store

and just at this moment russian missiles are flying in, is there such a feeling that there is logic in such thoughts, of course, such a trend is observed, unfortunately, it is very negative and very dangerous, i showed black thursday for vinnytsia that really a lot of vinnytsia residents did not simply respond to the siren signals and all those warnings that sound from loudspeakers or from telegram channels or from other sources today there are many opportunities to understand that there is an air alarm but the local residents already did not respond to it, they simply did not respond walked down the street, went to supermarkets , a lot of shopping complexes didn't even close their doors during such periods, it's just that kind of security, yes, by law, they have to close and when i go to lviv, i see that i want to go to a store is closing he says that we never allowed in vinnytsia and i

saw that supermarkets and shopping centers were closed then, just like now. you are absolutely right that they should huge complexes and not only supermarkets and schools there, companies should send all their employees to warehouses and shelters as quickly as possible, and it is any which concerns a crowded place regardless of the fact that it is a small hair salon or a large supermarket, but unfortunately i say once again that during the last month, somewhere probably from june 1. if so if you take it according to the calendar, people have simply stopped responding to siren signals. for example, the owner of a shopping and entertainment center or a store can be held accountable for not closing the door during an air-raid alarm. well, for now, i know what it is such an initiative in the verkhovna rada, and now

such a bill must be considered in order to bring to justice the owner of any institution, enterprise or organization that will not close and will not send people to shelter, i actually support such an initiative because safety is very expensive for people's lives , we must understand that in war conditions, any siren, any alarm - this is all very very dangerous, you must react very quickly , in fact, if you compare, for example, with such a state as israel, they generally exist for 30 seconds in order to go down to the shelter that is under every house and go to a safe place for people, give me another clarification. and you, as a deputy, first, as of february 24 and of a full-scale invasion and as of now, when 143 days of the war with bomb shelters have already passed, the situation in the city has been resolved. did the deputy of the regional

council increase them, but he actually traveled not only in the city of vinnytsia , even during the military aggression or in other cities as a volunteer and passed by, observing various trends towns such as ladyzhyn , the city of vinnytsia, vinnytsia region, the situation there is quite good, firstly, there are signs that are clearly visible and local residents understand very well where they are going, secondly, they are normal equipped there are places where people can sit and wash, water is available, toilets are available in the city of vinnytsia, unfortunately, not all shelters are properly equipped, sometimes basements that are under apartment buildings are perceived as shelters, although unfortunately, sad experience shows that shelters under multi-apartment buildings are very dangerous and imperfect, because in fact under such buildings they are very quickly assembled during and destroyed during missile strikes. therefore, they must be specialized usually at one time they were built next to

large enterprises and they really had to be repaired, they had to be found, they had to be cleaned for 143 days, unfortunately, this situation has not yet been corrected in many cities, thank you, thank you, andriyushko, where a lot of the vinnytsia regional council was with us in touch, and we may now try to move to the theory of war, the theory and practice of war, if oleksandr kovalenko of the military-political spectator of informational resistance is with us, then we will learn about it from him all the best, mr. oleksandr. greetings. yes. well , the question is very, very simple. what can these absolutely incomprehensible strikes on civilian structures and civilian objects mean, which we observe starting with those continuing in vinnytsia. now they say it

flew all over ukraine. released somewhere, i haven't found out yet where, and we see an obvious exclamation mark from the kremlin, a military exclamation mark with seven rockets, bombs, damage by attacks and the deaths of many dozens of peaceful people and children that this means and it all depends on which object and which cities they attack, if we are talking about the front line. for example, it is mykolaiv, kharkiv-bakhmut, etc., slavyansk -siverskyi, other cities, populated areas and villages that are located directly near the front line, then they really carry out chaotic, not quite without some purpose, shelling of civilian structures, namely civilian objects, well

, in general, these are elements of the ror, these are the elements of the ror that are used by the russian troops directly throughout the entire time that they exist a kind of army like the army of the russian federation, we saw this during the first chechen war, the second chechen war, we saw how the war started in georgia as well, and we saw what they are capable of in syria when they intervened, uncle , the war in syria and terror always accompanies their actions, any a in the offensive, in the defense, any actions are exclusively ways of directly striking deep into the territory of ukraine, which were the mainland of ukraine - this is vinnytsia, this is again the dnipro - this is again other cities, and first of all, they are really trying a-a to kiss in some objects that they consider military, well, the officers' house is located near the business center, as

you know, but it has not been used for its intended purpose for a long time, and in general, i state that the russian occupiers use very, very bad intelligence of very low quality and in most cases, in general, they strike precisely at those objects that have long ceased to be military and do not have any military significance, the first is that it is an element of very low quality of their intelligence, the second is that they they use their most expensive missiles for this purpose in order to target these objects, for example, this is the tx101 caliber - these missiles are quite scarce now, but they are expensive. for example , the kha101 is more than 10 million dollars, and this missile costs about their cost is somewhere up to 13 million, depending on the modification, as well as

the caliber of cruise missiles. that is, well, in fact, to use them for this purpose, they really try to somehow hit what they consider to be an important object, but there is one more point, these even these state-of-the-art missiles we already know, they even already know how low accuracy they have, that is, they state in the characteristics that the maximum distance from the targets is 5 m, in fact no, it is ten times more, they know about it, so they use them precisely the cities where the attack will be carried out, where there is a very large concentration of the civilian civilian population, they understand this and they do it. that is, they confirm this again that they, understanding this, are committing a war crime , that is, they are terrorists. okay, now the second question goes there but in the same pocket, as the billionaires say, there is your version and there is, for example, my version. i

spoke about it yesterday, and i want to ask you what if these absolutely mindless shots were fired at vinnytsia at others, it is absolutely known for sure that these are civilian objects, this is putin's nervousness, this is something means that the russian army, the russian army, they are not satisfied with something, they are not satisfied with themselves, but none of them will ever admit that they are not satisfied with themselves. they will always say that it is greedy, so what is the right to live such a version that this is theirs confusion to a certain extent leads to such absolutely massive mindless shooting of these rockets and everything else. so this is also one of the factors why they use missile attacks on the mainland of ukraine precisely on those objects that are not military and for example they need them every day

they have this is general konasenkov, who every day arranges some kind of delusion from the russian armed forces and the ministry of defense of the russian federation. that is, he must tell them every day that 100,000,500 nazis were destroyed there 2,000 tanks have been demilitarized there, and so on. that is, they need to report something every day, not only for the russians who listen to it all and who consume this informational fast food, and also directly to putin, sergei shoigu, and so on, and what to report if you don’t know what to do well, we are destroying the officers' house. but if we are talking about the officers' house, then for me it is a personal association, what kind of cinema is there, what movies can you watch in the officers' houses, if we are talking about the officers' house, in the worldview of the russians, then they have one i immediately read about narto genstadt, we have just one

minute left and it is very important to ask you today the minister of defense of russia with bloody hands serhii shoi, whom we have already mentioned, gave the order to the occupiers to increase their actions in all directions. so tell me what this is about, what does this mean is this the intimidation of the ukrainians, or have they really regrouped and will er-er act more actively, it is possible to counterattack no, but they don’t have the resources , they even now we can observe exactly how on the territory of ukraine they are reducing the number battalion tactical groups because they lack resources to compensate for losses they had 108 battalion tactical groups at the beginning of june now we record 95 battalion tactical groups 16 battalion tactical groups during a full-scale invasion completely no longer exist and but they ca n't even now assemble the third army corps in muliano and where did they start to form it back

in may, they lack enough people and that's why it's exclusively for the domestic consumer oleksandr kovalenko military and political the columnist of the information resistance was with us. thank you very much, the air alert has ended in the lviv region, and in general , it is already being canceled a little at a time throughout the territory of ukraine. those who already have repulse can come out of hiding and continue to live more or less what a moment of life but do not switch with the press and soon we will be back artists of inventive people rainmakers they are quite versatile people they can be anything we invent we create highly maneuverable high-speed buggies that can go anywhere i make it work we sleep very comfortably somewhere in the trench i do not carry victory battalion of inventors here is our front unconquered cities of ukraine

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