on the united nations and about russia, now after the terrorist attack in vinnytsia and other terrorist attacks in other cities of ours and ukrainians are actively spreading on their social networks a petition to expel russia from the united nations, this petition is called kick russia out of the united union uh, almost 40,000 people signed this petition, and actually , uh, there is a goal of reaching 50,000, in your opinion, and how realistic is it to expel russia from the united nations, you know, i don't think about the creation of russia from the united nations, that's why that that this is what i hear in the very conditions that we need some platform where it would be possible to say all this to their faces and because, for example, well, if during this meeting regarding the destruction of the ukrainian cultural heritage, they were not there, well, we just talked between our partners

are supporting us, but there is a platform, although he came out to show his face. it is fair to russia, but what i hear from diplomats is that there are huge questions. is it fair ? is russia legally occupying its place in the security council? well, from our diplomats, in particular, from uh volodymyr yelchenko is a person who for many years headed the ukrainian representation at the un. i just heard that after the war ends, ukraine will have the moral right to ask questions about the reform of the un, about what to reform, and to ask the security council from russia about what to politicize, and other questions about this is the right to take away the veto. that is, it will all happen if it were not for the war, he would never have dared, you know, to change the reforms , which are so significant and huge, but in the grand scheme of things, the war changed everything, you see, for the economy as well people say that for oil, for the oil market, and for politics. but for this, it takes time, that's what i hear from my diplomats, dmytro, but about the american in general, let's talk about that in our

country, in america, there is our countryman, andriy vasyliovych - this is his real name, but he is also george batut, and here he was reporting that american intelligence can record from satellites any movements and where enemy missiles are being fired from the territory of the russian federation into the territory of ukraine, is this really true and see the story here so there is satellite surveillance, but it gives a very general picture, and as a person who constantly works in the pentagon, journalism is fed by the pentagon, i mean that, well, i often ask those questions, and my garlic colleagues also ask them. and there are drones that periodically fly over ukrainian territory, which are they are specially sent to a certain zone if something happened there, that is, by and large , this picture is and there is a complete understanding of what is happening in this or that zone of hostilities, and the question was that before the war, this information for security reasons, the americans shared with the ukrainian side, you know, reluctantly, but

dosed, that is, the ukrainian general staff received some information, received some, for example, with a delay of a week, or even did not receive at all what is happening now, and i can talk about this on the air about representatives of the pentagon openly say that all operational information that the americans only receive from drones, which they simply see online here and to the pentagon, is transmitted to ukraine. that is, you know this it is not forbidden there files that arrived or did not arrive in a day or two, it absolutely happens online and ukraine has the opportunity to see what is happening in the sun in particular and the movement of troops in particular and to analyze some e-e russian weapons appear in particular and to plan their use in the same way of hypers, this is really true , this is open information, and by and large, a very serious step that the american military has just now taken under the pressure of circumstances is to give ukraine online access to all this intelligence information, well at least of this picture, which comes not only from satellites, but primarily from drones, the most important thing is that everyone

is satisfied with the work of the hymars, of course, except for the russians, thank you for joining our broadcast for the marathon, the only news dmytro onopchenko, our journalist live from washington was with us, we are moving then watch the project to find your people kateryna osadchoi from the search for the missing tomorrow at 21:30 people's deputy of ukraine head of the committee on finance, tax and customs policy danylo hetman this is added to our broadcast p. danyla my greetings congratulations to you glory to ukraine glory to the heroes of ukraine we will reveal the topic of the restoration of the country regarding the july plan what does it represent and what is the state of our domestic economy at the moment what are we going forward with today yes and uh if we speak already

consider this issue in the dynamics with what we let's get out. well, let's go somewhere in a year to support the economy and thereby stimulate the ministry of defense and the defense complex of our country in general. what we need to do today in order to resist and defeat the enemies, that is why it was indeed presented at a large conference in luhansk, a conference dedicated to the restoration of ukraine, but the main message that we conveyed to our partners is that we must support ukraine today, we must help us today so that we can withstand the struggle that in fact, it is not a struggle between ukraine and russia, but a struggle between civilization and anti-civilization, and europe is definitely on the side of civilization, which must

fight for itself before everything, including those who win by helping ukraine, that is why we presented their plan, the plan was developed for six weeks, the plan is an unprecedented detailed document, which is such a step-by-step, expensive instruction about what we should do to defeat the enemy and later become wealthy, the plan is designed for 10 years, the plan consists of three parts the first part is all for victory for a period of time, it was developed until the end of the 22nd year, the second part - this is the 23-25th year and the third part - this is the membership of ukraine in the eu - this is the year 26-32 and, accordingly, our unification and finally agreement the legislation of the institutes with the institutions of the european union

so that we could be an integral part of europe , the plan itself is quite large, it consists of 2.5 thousand pages of such small print , a large number of experts worked on it, including experts with a world name for example, francis fukyan and experts from the european union, our experts and domestic experts, that's why we tried to predict the future of our country, taking into account all the opinions that exist today in the expert environment and actually make it actually effective a document regarding the assessment of the domestic economy at the moment. and recently, president volodymyr zelenskyi reported a figure of 9 billion that ukraine needs, which ukraine needs in order to ensure the state

, support and fight. even a month ago, this figure sounded in the amount of 7 billion. well, in fact, if we see the june figures with you month, we will see that ukraine has collected approximately uah 70 billion, but has spent 230 billion, more than 230 billion , the actual registration has collected at the expense of traditional traditional payments, that is, these are taxes it is the customs, it is grants, but it has spent more than 230 billion. and actually these are the funds that our partners give us today in various forms, these are loans, various loans of international financial organizations of the governments of foreign countries

. specific figures for the month well, let's say average calculations, then that figure of 9 billion did not come from the president, it came from ep austenka, the adviser to the president on economic issues. if we talk about the minister of finance, then he until now, i have called a more uh such a weighted figure, it is 5 billion, and i agree with the forecasts of the minister of finance, indeed 5 billion dollars a month are not enough for us to finance the war, in fact, our expenses have increased significantly, they are uh, well, not comparable to those incomes that we will receive, and therefore we count on the support of our partners . and what has contributed to the increase in expenses at the moment is war , one word, one answer, war, and you understand that well, let's say that if we are talking about

only the wages and salaries of our military, then we now we spend 15% of the gross domestic product. therefore, we need accumulation , mobilization, full mobilization of resources inside the country, this is what i mean now, paying taxes, paying taxes in full at customs, and in addition to that, we definitely need the help of partners. well, really, what a catalyst cro- it manifests itself most like this and gives the most negative moments, but this is the impulse that exposes all the possibilities that are currently available to mr. danyla, speaking yes, the president talked about it he talked about the fact that de-tinization and the fact that we had a large, large amount of shadow economy before the war - this is unacceptable and ukrainians are actually divided

into two categories today. life and the second category are all the others who help them defend our sovereignty and our independence at the front, that's why we don't have any other ukrainians today, and all ukrainians must participate in this war either with taxes or blood or prayers or in other ways. no less, everyone is mobilized in our country today. this is true, and ukrainians abroad also help as much as they can by paying, paying funds and transferring and collecting by volunteering, this also adds a lot to mr. danyla, about the recovery plan and where the funds will come from. well, i understand that this is most of its grand is international aid, and there is a vision of what amount needs to be attracted, it is 750 billion for 10 years, for the first year - it is 60-65 billion, taking into account the commitments that

our partners have already taken. for today, it is quite a large amount, but an amount that consists not only of certain grands, it is from credit e-e sources, but also from private investments, a third of this amount is private investment on which we count e-e during the next 10 years, in order to build a normally strong, prosperous economy in to our state, danylo, you are the secretary of the national council for the restoration of ukraine, and it was announced that a bank of ideas will be created under this national council, tell me in more detail what kind of initiatives this is, what kind of bank it is, and how much it gives you the possibility of placing the entire room, in fact, it has already been created. if we talk about the results of the work of the national council and what we have touched on today, this is a large plan for the recovery of ukraine -

it is 2.5 thousand pages, this is the main body of this plan in addition to this, there is such a generalized big a-a but still generalized again the presentation of this plan eh and eh but the biggest part is a bank of ideas. that is, these are the projects that we have not yet supported within the framework of the national council for the restoration of a those who have the right to life have the right to discussions and have the right for the future, which are assigned to the bank of ideas that will be supported in the future . civilians, thanks to the efforts of the main directorate of intelligence and people's deputies of ukraine,

they were the first to take two families, a father and a mother with three children were able to reach a safe place at the same time, the youngest child was born on the territory of the lavra just a few days ago, and was also able to leave paralyzed people, men and women, all of them arrive in the territory under the control of ukraine and receive the necessary medical and psychological assistance to evacuate, and those who are still in the lavra are called to the humanitarian headquarters, you will be offered different routes разные места i want to go to poltava мне что предзом не хотиле меня волонтёры жалайсь yes we will take you to the humanitarian headquarters let's say in dnipropetrovsk and you will not be thrown out further

. this car is for people who think that they are evacuating or not. well, we have people who have already evacuated and can move . goodbye to today ukraine continues to work on the establishment of a ceasefire and the organization of a humanitarian corridor to the

svyatohorsk lavra. about one and a half thousand civilians are arriving on its territory, including children and babies. archimandrite galaction, monk aristokles and nun varvara were killed in the shelling, several priests were seriously wounded let's fight let's resettle we'll win and shield news together we're strong the marathon is going on the only news is on our air political scientist volodymyr fesenko mr. volodymyr i congratulate you i congratulate you with your permission i'll start with a post by andriy yermak a-a head of the office of the president of ukraine so vinnytsia dnipro odesa kharkiv chuguiv nikopol mykolaiv he wrote: russia continues to launch missile attacks on civilian infrastructure, they need more victims among peaceful people, because this is how they hope to break the spirit of resistance of our society, to intimidate us

these are the tactics of terrorists, their methods of work, a large state acts as terrorists, writes andriy yarmak, russia should be recognized as a sponsor of terrorism by the country. let's try to figure out if there is still a difference between a terrorist state and a state that sponsors terrorism. do you know the nuances here? it is purely textual and legal. and if you look at the problem even more deeply, it is simply related to the terminology used in the legislation of the usa and some western countries. there, states are not considered terrorists. states are recognized there. sponsors of terrorism, even if they themselves participate directly or indirectly in the preparation and implementation of terrorist acts, in particular, this term is a state sponsor of terrorism. it is used in the legislation of the united states. several

states are recognized as sponsors of terrorism, in particular , north korea, iran, syria, and a bill is currently being considered to recognize the state and the sponsor of terrorism and russia, although in fact , in fact, russia really acts as a terrorist state , that's what you quoted in the statement of the manager the whole of president andriy yarmaka essentially means that russia has launched a conveyor belt of terrorist acts, please note that every few days, almost regularly , one after the other, rocket attacks are carried out not only on the civilian population, but also on those places in the city centers where there is an accumulation of people who carry out simply their peaceful life, therefore, it is done deliberately, so that indeed all the reasons to consider russia a terrorist state are there, but here there are

nuances of the legislative regulation in western countries, that is why the term state is used the sponsor of terrorism is clear, but how ready are countries to recognize exactly this wording, because so far all we see is the next package of sanctions, and that is with some nuances, and with exceptions, if you can call it that. well, for example, the next package of sanctions that concerns gold has -m there are proposed so eh hmm withdraw eh withdraw eh make an exception for the export of russian jewelry for example see well first of all regarding sanctions eh the very concept eh state sponsor of terrorism eh appeared in the american legislation just in order to apply sanctions against such states that there was a reason

for the legal justification for the application of large-scale sanctions against specific states because , er, just like that, er, sanctions are not applied, you need appropriate grounds, appropriate reasons for this at this time, for example, against libya sanctions were imposed after the libyan leadership was accused of committing precisely terrorist acts, a similar situation was in syria, the use of chemical weapons, and so on in this in this case, the situation looks paradoxical , there are already large-scale sanctions against russia, and i in this sense, in my opinion, and the definition of russia as a terrorist state or sponsor of terrorism on the e-e will be rather i would say moral punishment like this i would say taring moral legal political

structure will not be the apogee of all the sanctions policy of the european union and the united states of america, what will be the apogee? i believe that the apogee should be the trial of russia. this should be an event, but it is the recognition of russia by the state as a sponsor of terrorism, and even that i think it makes sense to also use the term terrorist state or terrorist state, this gives grounds to then bring charges against the russian leadership not just against specific military personnel, but specifically against the russian leadership that gives orders to kill civilians and actually commit crimes against humanity against humanity because this could be the reason, i'm already talking about it, but just a few days ago, a tragic coincidence even coincided when there was an attack

on vinnytsia, on the same day there was a conference in gas a where they considered the preparation, the coordination of the actions of the various states of the world, e.e., in the investigation of these crimes of russia and their preparation, the future, well, let’s say it may be, the future legal process regarding the exclusion of sanctions, what is the problem with some sanctions in the west, they do not want to harm themselves, and where there are problems, for example, they cannot refuse immediately in europe, in continental europe, er, immediately refuse russian gas, er, they do not want to freeze, you can understand them. by the way, there are political nuances here, and because if you immediately cut off russian gas and it will lead to serious social and economic problems, it can have a negative effect on the domestic political situation in some countries , some countries, for example, slovakia and hungary, can not immediately give up russian oil, what

you quoted is gold it is difficult to explain here, one must ask the representatives of the american side why such an exception is a similar situation . to examine in more detail, this is a similar situation, we paid attention to it, we insisted that this instruction be removed after all, it was later removed, i do not rule out what well, the court with those merchant ships that enter the ports here is just the situation is clear, here there is economic lobbying there is the interest of individual companies of individual countries, and indeed here it is precisely necessary to gradually strengthen sanctions and the example you gave of gold and jewelry. i think that a similar situation is possible. this is my decision. someone lobbied for the usa.

another thing is the situation that has caused some serious criticism in particular from the president of ukraine regarding the supply of the turbine bag that is needed for the repair of the north, yes, the north stream alone, the situation is more complicated because it was done, they want to freeze, and the problem here is that on it's a pity, they create such individual exceptions, you can understand the reasons why this is done. yes, and europeans do not want to harm themselves. well, in general, western countries, how will they look? i apologize, volodymyr, how are they will look in the situation if uh they went to meet well there are um, let's say certain requirements regarding that turbine uh okay canada went to a meeting they returned this turbine and russia never started the gas here and this will be just a manifestation of the fact that such

concessions they do not give results and there is one more problem. such individual concessions create a negative precedent, and then russia will deliberately repeat such precedents and provoke such situations right now. what was the reason for the repair? it is necessary to repair the turbine and they created this such and such a situation, but then they can do the same thing in provoking similar precedents, there is a risk that russia can deliberately punch holes in the sanctions regime, that is why the ukrainian side is so strict and actively insists that such precedents do not occur and what do you think europe will do in the winter together with russia? if this happens, it will also be a

paradox for the europeans. refuse russian gas but russia can do it itself, they can do it themselves or pressure it is also terrorism. by the way, energy terrorism is essentially what they want to do to the europeans, they want to provoke energy there, and by the way, they also wanted to do the same against ukraine before the start of the big war, they deliberately did it the bet on provoking an analytical analysis in ukraine did not work out, that's when they started a direct war, and by the way, such comparisons can also remind our western partners that in reality this is not a direct war russia against europe against the west but in fact, russia is already attacking the west with such and such forms of energy terrorism, well, from the gas crisis to the food crisis. let's

approach this smoothly, and in istanbul, negotiations began this week with the military delegations of ukraine, turkey, russia, the un regarding the unblocking of exports of ukrainian grain, the parties agreed on the creation of a coordination center in istanbul and on joint control at the points of departure and arrival of ships a-ah we see what or do we see concessions here let's go to russia. i'll put it this way. well, we don't know the final decision yet. when it will be, when there is more information, then it will be possible to assess the situation, but i will make assumptions based on the information that i have from various sources, in particular from russian e- this is a decision, it will be a compromise. ukraine gets the opportunity to export more than 20 million tons of grain, which are currently in our ports, and this will give us the opportunity to restore budget

opportunities, because in principle, our exports were blocked. we are profitable and you are even more so the world needs it, but there will be certain concessions from russia, most likely, as far as i have heard, russia can get the opportunity to export its grain. that is, there will be exclusions again, exclusion of the sanctions regime for the possibility of exporting not only there will be an opportunity to export not only ukrainian grain, but also russian of the grain that it mixed with ukrainian, well, here it is to other authorities of different countries, from turkey to western countries, in order to block precisely the theft of ukrainian grain, unfortunately this is a problem

is already taking on a large scale, the russians have their own grain, but nevertheless it is really stolen now, ukrainian grain is exported from occupied ukrainian ports and this is a problem, but they also make an exception for russia because, well, it is already like that, i would say a desperate measure in order to really save some developing countries suffer from hunger from major problems with the food crisis, there is a problem with such a sanctions regime again, but this temporary exclusion is really related to a very acute food situation. thank you for the conversation and for sharing your visions regarding the various situations that we had time to discuss volodymyr fesenko, a political scientist, was a guest of the marathon and the only news. well, we are moving

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