no, they are the main question posed by sports. well, the republicans are the money of the taxpayers of the united states of america, we made a decision to help ukraine, but this absolutely does not mean that they can embezzle this money on the territory of ukraine, we want to control it. what is illogical here? tell me, please. it’s still normal, you’re showing the koboliv there, it’s transparent and it’s still different well, where is ash now, he should be extracting 20 billion cubic meters of gas, they are extracting 12 billion i’m not talking about their fortunes, their incomes, everything kobolev advised ukrainians a month ago that we do not have enough gas, switch to electric fuels and he is on svoboda. by the way, look, he is not even an undercover agent. moreover, he is a partner, a business partner of vitrenka. let's defend the position of ukraine. i ask the question, as for me, the main risks are

military, you see that the same thing is happening, missile strikes and america, uh, the russians, the aggressor, work show that he can hit with his calibers well, in fact, any point plus -5 m, you understand , now look at the pictures until the summer. they don't specifically hit the infrastructure so that ... the facility's water supply is the most important thing, and why are they postponing it, as for me , so that there would be less time for repairs ? autonomous long-range boiler generators,

you understand, to decentralize on the contrary, because the probability is that we will repair it and it will arrive in december, but it is very large, for example, i would invest money in air defense, first of all, you understand air defense, we need to protect our coal mines in the lviv region so that in the dnipropetrovsk region, we need a railway infrastructure, where these theses are, well , definitely nuclear plants, although there is a separate system, the risk is understood, and that's why i compare the sums of 1.4 billion for the whole of ukraine to you emergency repairs for safety reasons. and in my opinion, it should be individual generators, generators of the entire line, you understand, so that the house can be heated, so that the quarter can be heated, so that at least if there is a failure in the electricity and heat supply, so that people do not freeze, it is banal, but repairs are

in stock, because we have today the price is really not enough . they flew up, ask your mayor, ask that heating engineer or that or the head of the water utility. what are valuable today for everyone for the war of iron ? to pump gas that we don't need for a huge amount today and i think it's not easy. you understand it's not easy, but you and i then all allow this crime and you as the verkhovna rada and which controls the government, how can we buy if we don't you must have told the population that their own production is enough, please, the wise ukrainian people gave a full mandate to the servants of the people, 254 votes, and they are spitting today, well, on saturday, there was a committee meeting, i defended this position on after that the head of the erus committee under the leadership of the office of the president who is guided by this process and everyone

votes and they all accept and push it, contrary to the regulations, all this into the hall tomorrow it will be in the hall, watch it, you see, it’s not a random broadcast, the hall is now covered do you think it’s really some kind of military secret whether it is the desire to hide from the society how huge sums are raked in. well, answer for yourself. you understand, i know that fortunately, the same person takes a position against that draft law and hopes that we will not give it tomorrow, but in the greatest so ordered by the wise ukrainian people understand, and unfortunately, the traces of this device lead to the office of the president to absolutely specific characters. unfortunately, this is the reason for the tragedy and that is why i am sorry. well, i understand why today our main and financial military partners for the ocean donors, they want to control this situation. where does the money go? and you know, i cannot say that it is wrong, unfortunately here in

ukraine, it is not possible to find an arbitrator and to control it. it is clear who he worked for and for the past years you don't know, maybe he worked as vice presidents of energy companies before that - he is a jerk, it all leads to russian, so i'm telling you about it so that no one knew that we were in the sbu in the president 's office they didn't know who they put as the head of the sbu in crimea and the investigators the traces lead to the surrender of kherson and to the surrender of the kakhovka station of the zaporizhzhia station to this problem, then who do they have these questions to me, you just mentioned that, you mentioned the zaporizhia nuclear plant for yourself she will continue to manipulate games with slogans and slogans, then she loves her country more. i myself will teach them

to love their homeland more than they love me, not the ministers. i would like to clarify what will happen if the enemy succeeds in switching the zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant from our power system to the russian one, for example, or can they even try to do so ? just put it out of order in order to deal the most painful blow to our electricity industry, because we are already preparing for electricity to heat up with it, and if they do this, i don't think that it is out of order, but at a minimum keep it there now with six gigawatts of power, it works, it is loaded for two and a half, you understand. that is, it basically works at 40 percent. technically, how is it to transfer everything to the crimea, you understand, unfortunately they control these high-voltage lines that belong to ukrenergo, but they control it, but our control room of ukrenergo says that it is will not allow er, you understand, technically they can not allow that

electricity to be supplied to crimea, but this does not mean that it will be in the balance for the ukrainian energy system. but luckily, well, what luck it would be happiness where unhappiness helped drastically reduce electricity consumption, primarily at the expense of industry, you see the bombed mariupol, there are only ilyich and azovstal plants, it is one and a half billion cubic meters of gas and a huge optician of electricity, the same opz odesa is a different enterprise, so today we are all the same in terms of electricity so far that there is a surplus so far and indeed, today we can export electricity and earn money, currency , quite large volumes, but the main thing is that i see another device there so that this money goes to the reliability of electricity supply to our generation and our network and i have already seen these signs that this money under the oil and gas scheme will go in some other

direction and we are talking about at least a billion dollars by the end of the year. we have to give ourselves er, well, ask a question, we trust the government today, and not the energy block of the government regarding energy security. i personally say that it is strict . unfortunately, i state that under the conditions of this state of war, the absence of full-fledged information control and a monomajority, it is extremely difficult for the verkhovna rada to control them, so i absolutely do not rule out that here it will be necessary to turn to our partners to control our power, including for the sake of the ukrainian people. excuse me, minister - this is extremely alarming news, it is about what you have

just published, but you should advise our wise ukrainian people now, because autumn promises to be cold and winter can be hellishly cold if it is an individual dwelling , that is, either the village or the cities were given individual houses, we people probably understand for ourselves that it is better to have an alternative, definitely you have a gas boiler, it is better to have it on wood there, well, pellets are expensive i or even on coal on tents for whatever reason i am convinced that in the countryside, people are so careful in our country, they did not eliminate any of this. well, not everyone can definitely afford generators , but if there is an opportunity, it is definitely necessary to do it. it is definitely necessary in cities with a population where he lives, make at the expense of the city and the state budget some reserve areas that could even be simply heated. you see, i am reminding you

of alchevsk in 2006, when it was simply necessary to heat people somewhere because they had nowhere to play or to warm up because everything the city has thawed , you understand, and such emergency things must be done in all cities, and this is in independence, because it is closer to the area of ​​hostilities. or not, because it can fly anywhere. of course, in the zone, there should be extraordinary scenarios, because today they are calculating whether it is possible to heat the electricity. unfortunately, no, it is not possible, because the network is in such a state that if not everyone turns on the electric heaters, then it is clear that they will turn on the indoor networks in the first place. now you understand . three 74 27 this is about the peculiarities of this passage of the heating

season. delusion and manipulation guarantees us that we will not increase the tariffs for gas and heat, the fact that we have gas of ukrainian origin, not even taking into account the fact that kobolev and windyanka did everything to make it less, it is decreasing, but it is still enough for the population and for the heating utility this is every city mayor, that is, every adequate deputy, and you demand from your deputies of the city regions, i mean the verkhovna rada, that they do not support this delusion, because there is a second draft law - it is 74-28 - it is where to be released in essence from taxes on naftogaz where the situation is absolutely unacceptable and the third 74:29 - these are changes to the budget code and to the budget to the budget where actually, predict the allocation of these two

or 64 billion three criminal bills and java is vigilantly monitored, this is all oleksiy kucherenko , people's deputy of ukraine mr. kucherenko, the deputy chairman of the verkhovna rada committee on energy and housing and communal affairs, was our guest of the republic of ukraine. he drew attention to the fact that tomorrow in the verkhovna rada will be extremely important the meeting is dedicated to money for the gas and heating season, but the meetings are closed, so please call and write to the majoritarians and ask them how they will vote, because this is all important to you at klympush sensad is a people's deputy of ukraine, vice prime minister for european and euro-atlantic affairs integration of ukraine 16-19 years old ms. ivan well, we congratulate you good afternoon well, then let's also have your expectations about tomorrow's meeting, because they are now closed

. we cannot follow online, but already to find out after the fact oleksiy kucherenko is afraid for these three draft laws, uh, what are there. in his opinion, it 's just, well, these troubles with money for naftogaz, uh, what are your fears about tomorrow's meeting? well, you know, in principle, let's go a little wider because from a security point of view, today's meetings are held in closed mode and then, unfortunately, they are not covered even by the fact of their passing, they do not give ukrainian citizens the opportunity to understand and what and how exactly did the deputies discuss during their meetings and what exactly was adopted, what was the logic of making certain decisions, and this is actually such a horizontal problem that continues to worry. unfortunately, even on the tv channel, the work of the verkhovna rada of ukraine is not covered at all today, and for me this

is a fundamental problem that accompanies the work of the council. during this period of time, we as a committee that i head on issues of ukraine's integration into the european union, we are preparing for the next meeting several ratifications, e.e., the provision of long-term credit funds from the european of the investment bank for various programs that are fundamentally necessary for ukraine today, which relate to various industries, including energy efficiency, which, under the condition of quick and transparent use of these funds, could help, including the transition of e-e through difficult conditions, winter conditions e-e, which it will be a serious test for us this year, so i hope that the council will support all these rectifications and the state will be able to use the funds that are provided for a long period of time from

short ones with a very low percentage of payment and the possibilities of using them today not only with the general government, but also with the local authorities, which is also very, very important in my opinion, and definitely the issues that should be put on the agenda today, there is another issue that the next meeting should also consider this issue of privatization, and here again, in my opinion, there are serious risks, because we understand that the state today cannot dispose of and effectively manage the property that belongs to it. and we really need to think about the possibilities of how to transfer, if there are those who wish to transfer it to private ownership, transfer part of this property to private hands, but i will tell you this: the

draft law on privatization, which should be considered at these upcoming meetings in ukraine, and today despite the fact that he has 800 amendments submitted by different factions and different deputies of the table to his er for analysis so that we can make a final decision there, for example, there is simply no and they promise that this table will appear either late tonight or tomorrow in the morning well, in my opinion, this is an unacceptable story, such things cannot be considered in such an emergency mode, and it would still be worth following the regulations of the verkhovna rada of ukraine and after the publication of the table, well, at least if not the 10 days provided for in the regulations. and at least there are seven days to give the deputies an opportunity to familiarize themselves with them and decide whether all the amendments there should be taken into account or if some need to be confirmed in order for the

verkhovna rada to adopt an effective, transparent and understandable decision the council of ukraine was already, i agree, a new one, we understand that selling should be done when it is expensive and not when it is cheap, we understand that large-scale privatization can also have certain consequences, so on the other hand, we would like to see a greater participation of our various allied partner structures, for example, the european of the union of the united states, yes, in the evaluation of many different initiatives. well, recently there was a large, absentee discussion with a congresswoman from sparta. so, we heard a lot of very unpleasant statements from the representatives of our the authorities, which honestly surprised me, feedback came from the other side, as if they were considering the prospect of creating a temporary investigative commission of the verkhovna

rada. well, and the question. maybe you know something more about the creation and involvement of our western allies from the european union and the united states in this kind of control bodies. well , you know -e unfortunately, if these kinds of accusations appear, whether they are justified or not, against the ukrainian authorities, then i believe that the ukrainian authorities should react very quickly and, let's say, radically to such objections, because you and i are very, very dependent on bipartisan support for the aid of ukraine, which is currently available in the united states of america. and we also understand that mid-term elections are approaching, which will be held in the fall, where it may be that and more likely it will all develop in such a way that the republicans get

the majority in the chambers of congress and this means that once again the political debate within the united states regarding further support for ukraine will intensify. therefore as a country, we must always be ready to give clear answers to the claims, and in the case of their validity or perhaps not . commission regarding the use of weapons or the investigation of the use of weapons is proposed to be created by the head of the president's office because, in my opinion, this is still the authority and a clear prerogative of the legislative body and it should be promoted by

of the verkhovna rada of ukraine itself. if it is created on this call, there are, unfortunately, reasons to believe that then it will not be headed by a representative of the opposition, as it should have been and should have happened with the use of this tool in general as temporary investigative commissions and er will not cause additional er there is really trust on the part of our partners because in my opinion we should offer different options for how our partners can and should be involved in the investigation of the use of the weapons provided to us i am convinced that these weapons reach our military, i am convinced that the state still understands the need and the

need for transparency of the delivery of the types of weapons that are provided to us today but if it needs additional confirmation from the state, we should do everything to make it safe. i agree with you , mrs. ivan. well, but we understand that such a commission or structure. i don't know what status it should have. well, but it would be worth it. include the same congresswoman sparts or other congressmen from the united states so that they are sure because we do not need to be convinced that our armed forces fight well and use the provided weapons well but the main thing is that no one has the slightest reason to suspect us of something negative well and openness i think of course with certain limitations because it is about state secrets and so on. well, there should be openness in this aspect, is there any such mechanism in your opinion or would it be possible create there, i don’t know, vote on

such a tool as soon as possible, yes, some such cool supervisory board that would really have the authority and, accordingly, in agreement with our american partners, well, it would impose and give the appropriate access bars, well, it’s definitely not on the basis of a parliamentary commission, it should be done and possible on the basis of interaction between our and defense departments and it seems to me that it is possible to do it through the involvement of congressmen and congressman ok who are members of the relevant committees eh of congress who have such access to eh to to information on obtaining weapons eh hmm and to the secret vulture and therefore eh i think that these things could be done on the basis of a-a control of parliamentary control by eh- and the senate and the house of representatives of the united states, and in

the same way from the control of the ukrainian verkhovna rada, well, or maybe there is something that can be offered by government interaction for such and such control ms. ivan, what is happening in our country with the fight against the oligarchs, and whether it is already her or they are trying to us change the concept a little, because the fact that the media group of ukraine is leaving the media market was announced by rinat akhmetov, or rather, he said that he is transferring licenses to the benefit of the state. we still do not fully understand what this means, but minister of justice denys mollusk he said that akhmetov came out of the two criteria for recognition as an oligarch after leaving the media business and drawing up a parliamentary mandate. is this news? well, the representatives of the government all wrote about what we promised, we have a fight against the oligarchs. is that it and is it or is it something else?

well, in my opinion, there is still a project of the law, or rather a law on the so-called deoligarchization. and this completely political tool that the government used to use and i decided to live in order to fight against the dissenters there and it is nothing in my opinion, there is nothing else in common to fight against the negative processes of the oligarchy, which are real there, because for this it was necessary to use the tools of the same antimonopoly committee, so that it would work independently, for this it was necessary to use the tools of the same specialized of the anti-corruption prosecutor's office, to which we cannot a-a hmmm, appoint the leaders already, the competition was held more than nine months ago, independence of the same national anti-corruption bureau, and so on, but all these tools, at the moment, we are not

really working and er and that's why we see all the political political such use, i'm really waiting for the comments of the venice commission to the law on e-e deoligarchization so that the state in accordance with the criteria that were or the conditions a that were set by the european union for not only maintenance of candidate status and the opening of negotiations on ukraine's membership in the european union i still expect that the venice commission will provide its recommendations as a legal method, i emphasize that this is exactly what was written in the recommendations to implement um well, these are the tools of this law and for now, what already? there are many financial groups, many business groups are deciding for themselves how

they will act. but it seems to me that this is not only related to this law. and it is related to the fact that today it is activity in it is practically very difficult for the ukrainian media space to attract, let's say, advertising from the side of business, when we see not only military censorship at the state-wide marathon , so that it would be absolutely justified from the point of view of martial law, we see political censorship. well, for ourselves, some financially - industrial groups draw other conclusions. well, i hope that there we will see the opening of media work, as was announced by this particular group through and through poland and it is quite likely that a-a what what then it will be more independent, independent broadcasting, but for now we see the monopolization of the information space. so now it is attributed to

the fact that the war, martial law, martial law said so . unfortunately, we already see very clear elements of political censorship in ukraine, which , in my opinion, is unacceptable for a country that claims to be democratic, that is really fighting the dictatorship that attacked it and that the country depends on which depends on the support of the free democratic world. well, accordingly, how do our western partners in the european union and in the united states react to similar processes? yes, we understand that, unfortunately, without their support, we are unlikely to succeed in a proper way to give a decent fight back. yes, but on the other hand, fonderland sent quite clearly marked certain moments to which our

beautiful central government should react, in particular this specialized anti-corruption prosecutor's office, yes , congresswoman spart also marked certain surnames and certain processes well, the question is whether the european union will agree to this if certain things do not happen or if they, on the contrary, will begin to react very actively, and we understand that this can have negative consequences , in particular in the defense industry and in particular in receiving macroeconomic assistance, how here so that everything plays well, but at the same time well, you understand what i'm talking about, well , look, we are now at a-a stage when, unfortunately, the russian federation , through various a-a media, began actively to the world the information wave of opposition to the provision of aid to ukraine, in my opinion, this is a very dangerous

story that is spreading today, well, actually speaking, hm, the aggressor country, but at the same time , it can receive additional support through these hm, well, i want to call them mistakes or simply wrong a-a actions of the ukrainian authorities i would very much like to avoid this scenario, so it is important to clearly talk about the problems and it is important to clearly work together on their elimination, so it is important for you and me to the democratic principles of the functioning of the country, they were protected because of the fact that this is our strength and this is our hope precisely for the support of our partners, we see that there is currently good will for further support of ukraine and in order for it to be further well continued and in

order that even the economic challenges that the same european union will face today, economic, energy, er, the price of energy carriers, an increase in inflation, so that all these things do not work against ukraine, we, well, if you want, we have to be from the point view of democracy by holier a-a catholics than the pope , you know. in other words, we must really demonstrate the best er-the best protection for these er democratic freedoms, and actually speaking, the political criteria, the copenhagen criteria, a-a hmm, our tasks of integration. and here is this understanding so far at the national level is not enough, so let's hope that now these news that appeared literally yesterday in the information space about the fact that on july 19 there will be a meeting to appoint a-a