yes, it's bad or not at all, firstly, secondly, no, putin is fighting with us, fighting with us, hundreds of thousands of people who press the hooks, who release rockets, who take part in hostilities, a million russians, according to polls, you can see that they support the destruction of ukrainians, where did these russians come from, where did they come from worldview he did not fall from the ceiling, no, he was formed under the influence of russian culture in all this content, which, unfortunately, continues to be consumed by a large number of ukrainians to this day, mr. pavly, thank you for your activity in social networks are always very interesting to watch. please tell me, let's start our conversation with good russians. why are ukrainians looking for them in general? why is this necessary? what is the purpose of this

? a big e-e to which many ukrainians gravitate and do not see anything else, the feeling that the world has wedged itself in russia on russian opinion leaders on russian bloggers on russian writers musicians and so on and so on and so on there is nothing in the world but russians, but there is a certain number of ukrainians who think so, who are absorbed in that russian culture and cannot get rid of it, but now is a great time to revise your views in general on whether there is anything in the world besides russia and russian content why are you looking for russians ? find good ukrainians. find good poles or what slovaks, italians, swiss, and so on

. i am to my father, a russian ganged up on ukrainians, you can write this only when you understand all the poles, you will remember and so on and so on, americans, you british, everyone who helps us, mr. pavly, uh, a sneaky provocative question from mykola, in september , a year will pass, i don’t think it will take long the most, well, the borders will open one way or another, and some muscovite finds himself on khreshchatyk street in the city of kyiv and sees this muscovite walking towards him pavlo the bouncer and what will this pavlo the bouncer do to the muscovite who will come to kyiv and cry big with tears and say oh poor ukrainians and we are such goats moscow is this this this this this is the main

place in the universe hell yes hell oh what to do with it i honestly have such friends let's go with the russian federation who is there who is there who is there and they literally cry and constantly say call, because if you don't call, then we think that you are insults. yes, i call once a month and say that everything is fine, continue your work, they are really doing something, they are really calling for something, but what to do with the good ones muscovites i think for myself me guys don't want to see muscovites at all. i think you understand and we don't even know what will happen if we meet... abroad, not the same as in ukraine, in ukraine. i think that we will still not be happy for a while. i think it's good a russian is now the one who organizes sabotage in

russia, who sets fire to their fuel, which they use to refuel armored personnel carriers, tanks, all that is on us here are the good russians who set fire to the military commissars, who spread sandpaper, and so on . i express my regrets thank you, words are not enough, there are so many victims, there is simply not enough evil. i think everyone understands me now. i don't want words either. i don't really want to see good or bad in our country. you always call for ukrainians to start speaking ukrainian, give concrete arguments and facts, why this is especially important nowadays during the full-scale russian-ukrainian war. and what kind of feedback does your audience give you? it is very interesting whether anyone has started to listen and what kind of reactions do you

have? compatriots from donetsk region from luhansk region are switching to ukrainian and writing to me that we are also switching, it is difficult but we are trying, also from the south they are writing from odesa, people are trying and switching and saying that with such videos and appeals, friends, don't give up , everything will work out for us here i moved from kramatorsk . i communicated in russian for 28 years and did not see any problems in communicating in ukrainian. these are the appeals that help them endure this transition period of 2-3 months and everything. you speak ukrainian, you can easily distinguish your stranger as here at the front they distinguish their foreign so i think that in the rear even if the war as mykola veresen says will end in a year the great enemy will always

be near and we have to infect who among us is our own and who is foreign gentle ukrainization then in the end say it like this i think so to encourage people to inspire people to switch to the ukrainian language one time to study their history two to value their country and to be meek ukrainization, i think now is most needed by those who left for europe, we are very worried here that there is a mood not to return well, then why are we defending the state, friends, plan to return, no matter how good it is in europe, ukraine will always be better because it is our home with you thank you very much, first of all, for the protection thank you take care everyone give a huge hello to our boys and girls defenders defender thank you pavlo vyshebaba, eco-activist, poet, volunteer of the armed forces of ukraine was

in direct contact with us. and we will continue to move to kherson oblast in literally 30 seconds. i will remind you that a large part of kherson oblast is unfortunately under occupation. and today there was a message about the occupiers are going to forcibly deport local people from the kherson region to the russian federation for certain violations. this is meant if a person with a pro-ukrainian position, for example, is too active in those territories because the partisan movement there is so intense and there are such threats that people will be deported after all now we will figure out how to prevent this, is it possible at all, there is already a speaker serhii shyshkovskyi , a teacher of the history of ukraine of civic education in the village of komishany, kherson region, i hope the correct emphasis should be given to sergius of good

health. thank you for taking the time. well, how is the general atmosphere in the kherson region, if you can somehow evaluate it, we understand subjectively, but here we have objective, we almost never have anything objective during the war good day. so i will say everything correctly right away. thank you, you know. in our country, the kherson region is very different, first of all, we see an increase in the number of our soldiers, our soldiers, we see how their warehouses , their military bases in the kherson region are burning. and i speak for myself and for these people with whom i even spoke today, that is, all these events really have a good effect, but what you say is really this order of the leadership of the occupying kherson region about the eviction of the resettlement of people who do not agree, it is really starting to scare you. and what will

you do? do you expect people to hide? will people join partisan movements, and on the contrary, it will be less if charging? well, i just understand that during the war you can't criticize anyone, everyone makes their own choices and calls on people. everyone go to the partisans. let them kill you and it's no different from the russian appeal let's be friends and or not be friends, we'll take you to russia, so i'm not saying that this is criticism. i'm just saying that well, what, what can we expect the reaction of people? when they heard this from the leadership again that we will deport you to russia and we understand that it will not be sochi, someone tells me that they will be deported to the far east somewhere well , again, my profession immediately tells us the answer and you are right to say that it is not so is it rather, everything will be in siberia, they like

to send ukrainians there, do you know if there will be any opposition there, or if the number of supporters will increase? well , again, we are talking about ukrainians, don’t scare us, there will not be any opposition there, there will not be an increase in the number of supporters, you understand our mentality, she is always us, well this is a counter -reaction to the challenge. that is, the more we are oppressed , the more the reaction will be. we can even recall a recent story a long time ago. the date will be found by december, this is a small, small number of people from but every day more and more. but after the first crackdown, after the first use of mass force, the number simply grew to tens of thousands, to hundreds, and then to millions, the same will happen in kherson region, kherson region is very patriotic and this the pressure will only cause even greater opposition, that is, they provoke people, our

larger mass opposition will start burning there, you know , not only the cars of the collaborators, but also their houses and with them, therefore well, this is only more opposition will increase hatred towards them that is , their strategy is wrong, mr. serhiy, what are you interested in clarifying? and i am also interested in the information about the blockade of information access to ukrainian tv channels. the information is true and to what extent they are bombarded by russian tv channels, is it possible at all, and because we have observed such a situation , after all, in part of the people of donbas, well, first of all, we need to understand at the moment kherson region well, in fact, it has actually lost contact with ukraine with ukrainian mass media, but there is communication between people, there is still some on the same thing, there is a viber messenger

so far, it works more or less normally, uh, certain telegram groups are working, trying to inform the box of this zone will be really russian zomboyashchik he works but few people watch him because people understand that there is a fool, you know. people avoid him. there are no ukrainian tv channels on television. he worked on advertising rights. i will say that the megogo service worked for a long time, but now he too disconnected is also an important thing, there are regions, these are the coastal regions of skadovsk region, kalanchak, people who did not lose satellite systems, systems that did not disconnect them , now ukrainian tv channels have started working in them, that is, do you remember that law about state tv channels that were disconnected from the satellite to watch ukrainian tv channels and russian ones part of the people worked on the satellite,

switched the satellites, then stopped working with them, but some continued to watch what they give, as they say, and now we are the opposite of them we return people to the ukrainian network and ukrainian information there, and they are far, far away in the occupation, and they get a more real picture of what is really happening, what our country is doing there, what it is doing, what we are not doing, what our army is doing, what it is not doing, i.e. we have returned those distant regions to of our information, serhii, if it is possible , in general, i understand that it is unlikely to be very easy, but what do the russians say, can you have any information, there are some conversations just on the street, and where is the russian russian, i don’t know the store, and i talk to the shopkeeper, they say what they say is right, we did it, we occupy, densify, demilitarize, or they say well,

there are problems there, we see that this is something not quite russian, this is kherson region and not everyone here is happy for us well, in short, what the russians say is important to me it seems so, that is, if we talk about ordinary soldiers, they are even the same komysians where i am from, they often stop by and shop before going further to the front lines, they don’t communicate much, but what they say well, they see that their they don't support here they don't understand what they don't say there, there is no nazication, they don't use any such, you know, nice words of their leadership, they forgive them. people who use simple words. they say directly we can't leave here, we really have orders not to leave and we don't have the right, we understand that well, they say that we do n't give you anything good, everything is fine here, everything is fine here, but we have orders, we will carry them out, what is this

it didn't cost us, but they are afraid of the locals, the russian army is usually afraid. well, how to say it. you know, right away, you have to say that they are really afraid. yes, some are really afraid. by car, a ural, is it a kamaz or some ordinary jeep, squeeze out their population, at first they only found weapons, drove out all the buyers, that is , they were the only sellers there, no one knew what they were talking about, what was going on, and now they can probably leave it, the buyers are standing, they come as if to their own home, of course, but well, they have fears more at night time, part time they are not afraid , they are the owner during the day and at night they already lose this power . come from the representatives of the

ukrainian central government, after all, an even more intensive counteroffensive is planned in the south of ukraine, it is not specified exactly where, but kherson region is also the south, so we can as one of the options that it is there will be a place to occupy our territories, in any case, at some point in time, it will be there too. please tell me if people are leaving. well, maybe you also know that for several days there was a ban on traffic, eh, yes, because of vasilivka, eh, this is, in fact, the only one . no. in fact, this is the only corridor to controlled ukraine. now it was closed for several days. yesterday, the gas seems to have been reopened. it is free to say whether everyone is moving there. the number of people is increasing. this is also the kherson region and zaporizhzhia. people are really trying to go. who else has this opportunity to go, because it is really difficult, it is very expensive, well, in reality, the biggest problem of people in relation to nothing, why they do not leave, is simply the lack of means to

leave their homes, kherson region is agrarian, you know, at least there are some products there, their gardens, maybe someone ’s vegetables, fruits in the fields now farmers are giving away a lot of this for free because it is unprofitable to sell it, people have some means of existence, but paying for the road really has to be done by many who no longer have this opportunity, it is very expensive volunteers they drive for free, very, very few, a small number , they are simply not able to get more queues out there. well, probably by the new year, we can say the same for sure, but the queues on the moon are ahead at their own expense. people do not have the opportunity to leave. there are cases when kherson people , well, if we talk about kherson people, they are trying to move to relatives from areas where the russian military is grouped, i.e. some bases where there are warehouses. they are trying to move a little away from these areas, but to talk about the mass letter, there are people who are still leaving, but there are people who are leaving they are still trying to leave through the crimea, although it is also very difficult there, the terror is real from the fsb. yes,

we have technical problems, but we just agreed with serhiy spasybi, a huge and now civic education data from the village of komishany, kherson region, was with us. we literally have a few minutes left to talk to you to the next speaker, i am interested in a question regarding the fact that there is news from time to time about the murders of collaborators in the kherson region. how strong do you think this partisan movement will be in the future because we see that there are certain threats, will people still be less active, or will they be scared, or will ukrainians not be scared, as mr. serhiy said, so there are several planes, one of them is legal in principle, as far as i remember, i could be wrong, you can

scold me, but the partisans outside the law everywhere everywhere everyone where the partisans are outside the law a person who does not wear a uniform cannot hold a weapon in his hands and this is on the one hand on the other hand we all remember the different partisan movements, some liked the red partisans, some liked it, and you didn't you can get rid of partisans everywhere in the world, they appear. but you must always understand that the enemy and russian at one time were german, then simply shot hundreds of people, you kill one officer, don't forget that the next day they can come to the village and destroy and burn the entire village, and this should be done simply analyze all of this is simply to be understood when we say lida , it is in the czech republic or we say a hut in belarus, it didn't

happen just like that. it was all a response to something done by the partisans. the partisans are alive. and those who are nearby are simply all dead, but no, you can't. you can't ban stoppages, ukraine can't speak. yes, zelensky said everything, i ban the partisan movement because a person still wants to take up arms and kill some collaborator. so it's not like that. it's not the right answer. i answered once and for all. i think it won't stop. i just don't think it's not very easy in the kherson region, it's like that, you know, it's a plain there, there are no mountains there, there's no place to hide, there 's a forest there, well, in short, there's a problem. and why is there another such question that follows from this, why does russia want to deport ukrainians? well, what a threat it is clear, but there are other methods of torture that, unfortunately , russia uses and tortures and so on. here, the

video is very simple, in contrast to ukraine, where everyone in ukrainian requires explanations from the authorities. yes, i would introduce such a law and 3,000 people immediately ran to the supreme please explain why he is like that, why not like that, what will make me feel good and bad, how come this is not discussed in russia, they are not used to receiving feedback , what is the communication, why is he sitting, and let's deport them, and what options does someone have, for example, even even asks why is what you are asking me , they simply did not have this question, you sent me down to the valley from above, i said yes and went to do it, i will not ask why, when a person is not trained in this communication, he is atrophied, cut off, this, this explanation, he never explained anything to anyone in his life. he

said that everyone dressed in white or everyone dressed in yellow there or some orange and he, if someone should be there, he would say and why orange and why is white so in prison and that is why he is not he has in it does not cross my mind that somewhere there are such people who need an explanation and demand and seek an explanation, well, if they are presented like that and will be used simply as cheap labor in these disadvantaged regions, at first they will say, well , that is, i have been tracking the fact that in the far east of our people sent uh first let's help let's smile bread and salt but this is the first day, maybe the second day is not for everyone, but on the third day you're not here, you then you start walking, we invited you, but where should we live and it's cold a where a where to buy food and what kind of money, so stay behind, then

some volunteers appear there, just local people, and then the fsb starts watching those local people, then the volunteers are-there-are-there, then the fsb eyes, then these people who are trying to help, they say well, what about me i will go to prison because i help the ukrainians, they give up everything and they sit at will, there is usually nothing there, there are a lot of volunteers at the border, as i read from estonia, latvia, lithuania, they say for some reason it is in estonia that a lot of ukrainians flee through crimea or simply through the dnr of the lpr and then through russia they go there to the baltic and cross the border into estonia . i have already gone from estonia to europe or to ukraine. so there are quite a lot of such people there, but they are definitely

outcasts, as they say, it is not like in ukraine after all, don't compare just there en masse. so we can continue our conversation already with the speaker maria zolkina on the summer fund of democratic initiatives named after yaka kuchereva, contact us, ani maria, congratulations, look, the questions are really so simple , and maybe they are difficult, i don't know how to whom which the success or failure of mr. biden in the middle east of the american president and what are the possible successes or failure of mr. putin in tehran, what can we say why the attention of the world is so focused now in the last days and the 19th is still ahead when putin will come to tehran to the middle east to of the near and middle east, if we take into account the persians, iran , so that the arab world is no longer about biden, then such attention was drawn to his visit

. it is precisely because of the fact that biden plans to reset relations between the countries of the arab world and israel and create an anti-iranian coalition, thus depriving russia of the opportunity to influence the arab world through russian relations with certain countries, in particular the persian gulf. that is, it is a completely different approach, and if the two sides fail in the coming months, it will still succeed. because now progress is here it did not happen despite all expectations, then as a result in this way well, let's say this, the pressure on russia will be increased due to the pressure on those with whom russia develops partnership relations, in particular due to the pressure on iran plus the second point, but here it doesn't matter i achieved instant results. unfortunately, the idea of ​​bringing relations between saudi arabia and israel to a new level, that is, establishing

real diplomatic relations between them and promoting some kind of political rift, did not succeed, and without this, the idea of ​​regional security some new configuration in the middle east due to the unification of yesterday's enemies, that is, the country of the arab world and israel, it is not possible. so far , it is the second moment in which there are also successes. unfortunately , it did not happen for some tangible people. i tried to get a solution to arrange audits , pumping, or rather oil production, and already here and today for new maximum serious volumes in order to reduce the price of oil on the world market and finish off the russian budget in this way , but here it is the same, that is to say, success did not happen, that is saudi arabia has not yet gone

to the meeting well, unfortunately, it is not comforting for ukraine. so far, the results, i.e., the immediate sums here are positive for us. she er she understands her price now for the united states between the countries itself for a long time er many decades there are partnership relations despite the serious difference between them and saudi arabia er which is now trying to bargain for itself the most er as the most in terms of renewal relations with the united states were very cold, in fact non-existent in connection with the reactions of the american administration to the murder of a saudi journalist, saying that now i do not rule out that the audit will be negotiated for a couple of months and in the fall they will still begin to increase and

oil production sharply and thus will effectively nullify the oil revenues in the russian budget and, in parallel, some kind of dialogue with israel and this idea of ​​joint anti-air missile defense or, more precisely, cooperation in the field of anti-aircraft anti-missile defense between the countries of the persian gulf of the arab world and israel it will become possible, but a little later, not now , it would be more important for us to have it right now, well , everything is always ukrainian and immediately we know our character, but mrs. maria, what about tehran and that of a big meeting with the iranians and the turks at mr. putin's, which is expected on july 19. what can you say about this, these are exactly related things, that is, just as biden is trying now not due to pressure, but due to the renewal of, and more precisely , the establishment of relations between the arab countries and

israel to create some kind of regional security configuration in the same way, putin is going to create his own configuration, although it is not at the expense of the middle east, but at the expense of russian-iranian relations, first of all this is cooperation in the field of e-weapons. that is, we understand that there are already a lot of signals that are confirmed that iran has started or is about to start providing russia with drones. i would like to remind you that drones are a weak point of the russian army. we use drones and other drones or unmanned aerial vehicles. and in russia they don’t have their own active production. china does not supply them. not close, on the contrary, in tense relations with the

united states, and it is not a fact that they will come out of these relations now strained. so far, all this has been unsuccessful against the background of negotiations over iran's nuclear program. so russia is seizing the moment. it is looking for itself. an ally in the person of iran and taking into account this isolation and wound and taking into account the fact that the arab countries and israel are still beginning to somehow cooperate to establish some minimal dialogue and it is anti-iranian in nature because it is a common interest of both israel and of the arab and part of the arab countries, at least eh, i think that all this strengthens, in fact, pushes this russian-iranian coalition to some actions turkey, the role of turkey eh there well, to be honest , eh she is as usual