we allegedly fulfilled the actual requirement of the european union, not even a requirement, that is, the question of the european union is why ukraine does not guarantee the independence of its anti-corruption bodies, but there is no way to throw it out to the end, and a long bagpipe begins again about the fact that here we can not get together trawl-valleys and here it is possible to be honest not to convene the verkhovna rada for a long time, because without the verkhovna rada, well , it is unrealistic to appoint the prosecutor general, and there are options, well, there are many such cases in our history . that's why they pushed me because the only thing, well, if it was the only thing, why until sunday evening, well, in fact, the only thing that can be explained was the explanation that it is necessary to divert attention now from the fact that we do not have such a massive offensive in the south announced by the arrestee, but in fact ukrainian troops are advancing but not at the pace counteroffensive waiting for

a bunch of people, weapons and the like, and as it should be in a total war unleashed by russia gradually strengthening, entrenching and the like , so on but it seems to me that the first option where more real, why was the head of the security service of ukraine actually removed from the security service of ukraine in connection with the security service of ukraine, now there are actually a number of proceedings against those involved in the security service of ukraine , and therefore the circumstances are a little different, but in reality how would you like it if there were real facts about what mr. bakanov, knowing that there was total betrayal in his structure, did nothing. i think that the president would have come out in the same way as he did. betrayed and destroyed, and here is my childhood friend, mr. bakanov, and the like, you see, there is no such thing, but

in fact, the problem is different, the problem is that, in fact , mr. maklik is also the first deputy head of the sbu, who served with mr. tatarov in the time of zakharchenko in the ministry of internal affairs and mr. symonenko - these people are actually completely focused on the deputy head of the president's office. in principle, he is now in full control of the entire law enforcement system, and here, returning to what i said, remember, let's put it better. now we're on to that . let's move on, let's go to vitaly shabunina, let's listen to mr. vitaly, what do you think about the official and unofficial reasons and reasons for bakanov and venediktova , why did it happen that did not suit the president of ukraine and why right now, please remind me that last week, it seems, however, he said that if he wanted to fire tatarov, i would have already done it, and i don't

understand what has changed in a week, that is, what new information is simply no, the actions of spies inside the ogp and the sbu have arisen, i have not heard such information, at least because i have a question. well, where is the sincerity last week or now i will repeat it again, i don’t believe the reason about the fact that there are many traitors in the sbu, not that they were not there, but there were many, at least not less, in the dbr, which implemented the burning of the materials of the proceedings and in where in god 's national police did it go out there or through the walls in sections by sections or rather from the city because something but for now the story is because yaroslav is right all the most favorable decisions of the prosecutor general's office political oil decisions were signed by simonenko and not the video i nationalize

just with an opinion er because we quote a lot here opinions, we are trying to single out in the spectrum of these opinions what is actually the impetus for these decisions, people's deputy of ukraine oleksiy goncharenko claims that according to his data, bakanov's dismissal was not connected with yesterday's or rather the day before yesterday's detention of the ex-head of the sbu of crimea kulinich, but because of the failure in the kherson direction what was pointed out in her criticism of the banking congresswoman viktoriya sparz zelenskyi is very dissatisfied with the actions of the sbu, goncharenko writes, and the fact that the sbu employees poured out mini-fields for the passage of russians from crimea and of course the situation with the fair from the very beginning, someone from the very beginning tried to displace bakanov, this is written by oleksiy goncharenko and he also writes that he must dictate the situation more difficult. zelenskyi was satisfied with it, but oleg tatarov had a hand

here. what did yaroslav yurchyshyn talk about, the prosecutors decided to focus on the one who signed everything and would not have gone on sick leave or gone on vacation for a more responsible moment, let's move on version voiced, i would actually like to say that yaroslav yurchyshyn just said that, actually, well, look, let's just look at it from the perspective of who are the yarmaks, who are tatarov , this is a question we constantly ask ourselves, why tatarov why is the fair so important? it is purely from the point of view of the law, from the point of view of the legitimacy of the institution, from the point of view of the transparency of their functioning. it is simply the heads of the office and the heads of these technical workers, their functionality is possible in principle. describe how the people who submit papers for signature, who may be making coffee for president zelensky there, in fact, in some other countries , there could be three people for the entire office with small

salaries, and so on, what i am leading to is that in this country we see how it's just that now informal ties are being formed in the country, which are not just higher than formal ones, but they are also higher than actually national legislation and the constitution . italy will still have what iroslav yurchyshyn says is true and today the entire power block is concentrated in a person who has such a case and such a corrupt background as tatarov himself , what does this mean in principle and he is a person who is not accountable to anything in fact, no one in the country seems to be such a shadow cast by the head of the office, let's listen to yaroslav yurchyshyn. where are we going with this system of government

construction ? for quite a long period of time, the office of the president , the secretariat of the president, the administration of the president in ukrainian realities has always played a very important role, especially when, in the elections, the vast majority of voters gave, in principle, more powers to one political force. when it was democratic, let's say counterbalances, yes, that is, the majority consisted of more than one political force. so why didn't the president's office try to to disguise additional powers is unconstitutional in an illegal way because you really clearly said that this is the patronage service well, i do not know ukraine, it gives three or four employees of the presidential patronage service, it is always enough such a large number of people with good signs, but these are people who do not influence on making

political decisions, these are the people who really ensure the president fulfills his priority duties in ukraine . defense he has his ministers. he has his opportunities to influence the owners of the sphere and the presidents, especially when society gives them a huge amount of trust. unfortunately, they are taking the path of concentrating additional efforts, but they are concentrating efforts not on themselves, so because well, in fact, there is no time to delve into it and the desire to be honest. neither yanukovych nor mr. zelensky have the ability to delve into such problems, they put, relatively speaking, some lefties on klyuev, and bohdan yermak, and they close all the questions on them, and these are already starting their experience of bringing in a similar kind of people who are definitely not accountable, who, in principle, do not

see their responsibility, even political , for what they will do. because when politicians make some kind of mess, then in the next elections they may not be elected. and how will they elect a tatarov when his the council did not appoint him by its own decree, the president appoints and dismisses the president , and this is exactly what he said to italy in order to release tatarov in order to remove the discussion both in society and in our international partners because this surname has already become a proverb in the tongues along with the surname unfortunately for yarmak, because yarmak, no matter what, but partly also a public figure is a person whom the president well, we do not know whether the president invites or he travels himself but he accompanies the president everywhere, for in order to release tatarov, a simple decision is needed by zelenskyi, one signature by zelenskyi and no violations of the constitution, no questions regarding legality. is this your office worker, mr. president, as many problems as he created, not even created? i apologize, but

probably the kherson sbu. and that is why in this case . and all the stories about the fact that on sunday it turned out that such a bakanov knew about the merger of information, although again, if the first deputy of mr. bakanov is mr. makyk, who will now be to carry out duties that are a personal acquaintance of mr. tatarov, did bakanov in principle form the structure of the security service of ukraine, or was his biggest mistake in the fact that he really, like ivan diktova, tried to at least be subordinate to the president's team and have at least some kind of his own position here, if the question is very frank, there are no questions for tatarov, even yermak, there are no questions about all that is happening, the question is for the president of the warring country, mr. zelensky, unfortunately, and these questions are not only with us, but with us as international partners, and these are questions that can affect far only for the domestic political situation here, we really

try to avoid any additional criticism and the like, but it's just that it already comes from everyone . our conversation with a little back on the first deputy of bakanov, vasyl the kid, and still, since there is not much time left, i want shabunin to comment in italy, and finalize the whole topic with a comment on what to expect from the events of this week, as per the actual appointment of the head of the sap this process is being finalized, what to expect and how this appointment can be affected by the situation with the removal of the prosecutor general and the head of the sbu .

rearranged the dots, so the edition censornet writes about the fact that for the first time, ukrainian pravda called vasyl the kid at the beginning of june. perhaps bakanov's successors are the first deputy of bakanov, and on march 3, vasyl the kid was reinstated in his position in the sbu, although he was only on february 16 appointed to the ministry of internal affairs to replace the scandalous oleksandr gogileshvili to lead the direction of combating illegal drug traffic, the kid already worked as a deputy of bakanov, but was dismissed in july 21, the president dismissed him and cited the unsuccessful fight against smuggling then it was about the fact that it is essential for the president to intensify the work of the sbu in order to finally put an end to smuggling schemes . it was very interesting then that andriy yarmak's advisor mykhailo podolyak spoke about it. well, actually now. another fact is that in august of the 20th year, the publication of the

detective. info stated that my kid will be involved until the end of the tobacco in one of odesa , such elements of the biography are actually from the censor publication. of the office of the president oleg tatarovatsya, for example , the fortune with which he earned his living, there are different things, so he published an investigation about the celebration of tatarov's birthday, and both were at this house, i just wanted to clarify mr. vitaliy yaroslavichyshin made such a hypothesis that tatarov is valuable it is important because he has daddies for everyone. this is the working version. although it is very sad, but i have a second question. well, i have such a question . it seems to me that tatarova has some skills that she does not have. she has children that she definitely did not have. and skills, and the president needs them for something, what kind of skills are they? how indispensable is a

person like tatarov for zelensky, for yarmak, and when he uses these skills ? moral qualities are an ideal tool for the execution of the most disgusting political tasks, they come up with the best one, he sells this one to the president, yermak . by the hands of the law enforcement system and it is very bad for the country in the village because the whole institutions are handed over to the hands of people who decided with very low moral qualities, including connections with the russians because of their prior service to yanukovych, you can't think of a worse story in history and it will only intensify, this is a problem, thank you, thank you, sir yaroslav let 's try to answer my question about the prospects of moving from this week's place, the question

of the appointment of a new head of the specialized anti-corruption prosecutor's office, and whether this prosecutor will be able to fully work under the conditions of what we are talking about here now, and first of all, there will be no significant change, because even if there is a positive decision of the court and the commission meets, although the announcement of its meeting on july 19 has disappeared from the website of the prosecutor general's office, and without this announcement, the commission cannot meet. last night it appeared again, now yaroslav vyrichichenko says it disappeared again well, we see that this is such a disappearing solution and it is clear that he did not follow up, so here you can trust italy more, and the anti-corruption center they are 24 to 7%. no

process therefore in this case even if the commission is going to and she looks like she is going to and even acknowledges the results of the competition, she does not appoint that is why she will appoint the prosecutor general, who is not present, but performing the duties of the prosecutor general, as far as i know, does not have the authority to appoint the head of the specialized anti-corruption prosecutor's office, therefore, one problem was heroically solved, another problem was heroically solved created and this problem can, in principle, be kept for a longer period of time, even from objective circumstances, the verkhovna rada is not going to meet because the deputies there have dispersed, er, to ask for weapons from of our international partners, something else, well , that is, in principle, no problems, that is why i am bad deputies, it is called a bookmark, that is, at any moment after that, it is even appointed to replace the head, you can appeal later in court, because it can be said that the procedure was not followed, and traitors from

kherson are to blame the sbu is clearly here if the question is that there is no significant shift and there is a significant regression. and we already see it. the only case in which a significant player can deny the regression is the submission of adequate candidates for the security service of ukraine. now we have a lot of employees of this service who are fighting in the east, some of them even in the leadership team, and this is an ideal option for leading such a structure in wartime. it would be very correct to take a new person who is connected with the war and appoint him to the position and show that we are refusing any other steps. well, just quietly without any press conferences remove tatarov, but this is in an ideal ukraine , this is in ukraine who cares about the institutions to which

mr. andriy constantly appeals unfortunately, we live in real ukraine and therefore, despite all the movements in the commission in the courts of posts, we will not have a head of the sap in the near future and even if so the stars will line up and our international partners will push them and we will have a sap leader, remember how and how many of them are the ones who set the wheels in motion for the investigation of key cases by the specialized anti-corruption prosecutor's office numerator first deputy chairman of the committee on anti-corruption policy in the parliament vitaly shabunin chairman of the board of the anti- corruption center unfortunately, we would like to talk more about this topic, we will come, but we have to finalize this conversation and move on to the next one, so now we are talking about important international events and on contact us vitaliy kulyk director of the center for researching civil society problems welcome mr. vitaliy i greet you good day and join us in

our conversation valery klychka political economic expert expert head of charity the new road fund will be connected to us in a moment valery klychok let's start with vitaliy kulyk what 's up vitaly let's try to comment on the situation with the e turbine for the north stream - it's actually a real scandal, let's remind the vice prime minister of canada khrystia freeland said that she considers canada's decision to be difficult but the right one to return the turbine for the russian nord stream gas pipeline alone despite the sanctions and we will actually remind you that last week the canadian government agreed to make an exception to the sanctions against russia to send this turbine, which underwent maintenance in canada , to germany so that he will go to a meeting with germany and reduce the risks that russia will not restore the supply via the northern stream one after planned technical works, prime minister justin tri downplayed the decision as difficult and emphasized that canada will continue to

support ukraine, we understand that it is about gas blackmail by the kremlin, about the energy crisis on the threshold of which europe is standing, and however, this can strongly threaten sanctions and support for ukraine, so how do you look at this situation, it is some how indicative is it and what will happen next? on energy carriers, first of all, the cessation of transit, this transportation of supplies of russian energy carriers largely deals with the ultimatum that business is not ready to pull european business is not ready

he is the object to us of the consequences of this energy blackmail or the so-called plekout from the side of russia and it had an effect, this was a month ago and it had a large effect on the big negotiations that took place between the states of the european union, canada and russia regarding the reduction of risks in the energy sector, i.e., russia successfully used energy weapons and punched certain holes in the sanctions regime, so far it will be possible to expand these holes, this is a different issue, but what happened already led to certain practical actions well, it is a bell for us. of course, this is not a

question of transporting gas from ukraine to the european union through the passport system. let me remind you that we are still transiting russian gas to the european union. there is information that we will be provided with certain volumes of this transit, but uh, the question in general is not uh, no, not to remove, that is, the embargo on energy carriers to europe from the russian side, they did not, uh, did not work, and many experts in europe suspect that such loopholes in the sanctions regime will appear closer to the heating season is longer and it will be related to oil, it is related to gas supplies and others, but not only to the energy sector, because energy policy, an analytical weapon, is only one of the er tools of russian imperialism , so er, these exceptions er, there are white spots on the

sanctions regime, they may appear in another area, in particular. thank you, mr. vitaly, i want to connect er, er, kulik, or i apologize . 3-4-5 questions but i will fit them into one. so here is the seventh package of sanctions announced by the european commission. the eighth is ready for the fall. let 's try to figure out whether the previous six packages are working properly. what is missing to suppress russian aggression? will be the price for the world and for ukraine, mrs. dream, thank you very much for such a detailed question, but i cannot give you a concrete answer in such a meaningful way. there was something to stop the aggression and i ask you to listen

, let's not fool ourselves if we take online the amount of money that is now coming to russia for consumed gas and for cars from the european union, it is already almost 70 billion dollars since february 24. that's why it's all blah blah now they are jumping around 7 sensational packages, this is all we will eat the eggs, it is not worth it and it does not affect russian aggression in any way. pay attention to the statements of the baltic countries, which are sincerely and openly talking about this, moreover, olaf scholz even understands that we will press, what do we have in common and the european pressure will not accidentally start thermal power plants that work on coal in our country, because with regard to the 8th sensational package, the pressure will continue, and so far the world is very infantile . turbines, there is one such interesting nuance here, i think that m.m. will now insert, more precisely, russia does not shoot itself in the foot first, but uses very powerful

blackmail regarding the organic flow and the return of the turbine, the issue there is not yet closed as of canadian parliamentarians reacted very harshly to the decision of the government and labor behaved like the last scum . let's go let's go for the european union, they will continue to blackmail such things, you don't understand. it 's just stupidity, as far as i'm concerned. and now they really continue to bypass these loopholes so that there are sanctions and so on that the seventh package of sanctions is gold. well ok, yes, we will collapse the stock market in russia a little bit, but somehow the problem affects the solvency of russia so much that it bought, for example , drones in iran, but no, absolutely not, that is why the question is extremely difficult and i have high hopes . i think we will all work together on this issue, each at our own level,

very correctly, because we have to tell the truth to people . the question will be asked and why excuse me in quotes , even the russians will help us in that their greed, their aggression and their efforts to bring everyone to their knees will lead to the fact that they simply will not supply gas to europe, and europe is preparing for this, this is the position, let's take it anyway let's consider our comments in relation to the prime minister of canada very hard and be diplomatic here as the president of ukraine who during the conversation thank you for the documents i did not interrupt you i still want to have the right to technology i have the right to it. i want to complete it. so , during the conversation, the president of ukraine, volodymyr zelensky, thanked the prime minister of canada, justin trudeau - this happened yesterday evening, for the constant

powerful defense support of ukraine. turbines and for the northern stream, one and e-e emphasized that the international position regarding sanctions should be principled, so let's go further and e to p. vitaly kulyka, the question is whether the e-e decision of saudi arabia will actually help to increase production of oil up to 13 million barrels per day, reduce russia's profits in this area and hit the aggressor country powerfully, or is this decision still not enough, then i need to ask mr. vitaly , first of all, the audits promised to increase production capacity, not directly production, and this is quite important the difference is because the production capacity is one story, and the daily production that takes place immediately is another story, and 13 million tons is meant by 2027, so talk about the fact that it can collapse the russian

positions on the market that this does not take into account the interests of all opec players, plus where does russia also enter the judicial arabia has had rather complicated relations with the putin states, starting in the last three or three years after the murder of a saudi journalist, the introduction of certain personal restrictions, a critic from the white house eliriad eh, all this did not contribute to the improvement of relations between washington and the aleryan of sadovsk arabia, but there are key positions where the interests of the first states and economic arabia coincide, this is the opposition to iran in first of all, in yemen, it is a counteraction to the spread of iranian influence in the middle east, and the strengthening of the modernization of the armed forces of judicial arabia, so here they will find a point of view. but with regard to energy policy, scaravia has sometimes reacted quite sensitively to

washington's requests regarding pricing and production. er, oil played along with washington. this was, say, in the story of the barokomybs who asked the auditors to increase production for their presidential elections and absolutely. it went and it is also possible remember the 14th year of the audit wheels increased production and collapsed the price of oil for the russians, creating certain problems, now the audits are in no hurry to take such steps because they want to get guarantees of safety, not personal safety, but guarantee, please. yes, the guarantee that the states will start will not switch to ukraine and not i will definitely leave. it is important to them that the united states was present in the region. if biden made such promises, because he gave such guarantees, then they can increase the amount of oil to some extent, but this is not a small increase. are we listening to valery klitschko, will biden's reconciliation with saudi arabia help to solve the issue

of russia's oil scandal in our world, i ask mr. valery, we don't have much time, so i ask for a concentrated thank you. to a certain extent, it affects the reduction of price policy, we already note what statements are important, especially saudi arabia one of the leaders in oil production in the world, it is in the second place, then in the third place, then in the first place. i think that now with the task we are looking at even and in the future the first place - this significantly affects the balance in general energy dependence and so on, a plus to this issue anyway. hmmm, i would like to add one more point, as for me, not only saudi arabia, the issue of iran is not closed, and the negotiations today regarding the restoration of their nuclear program, although not successful , but i have a feeling that they will continue especially after today's visit of putin to the operator, this is a very important moment. thank you valery klochok political and economic expert