the war in ukraine is the main topic for ukrainians , victory and losses, analysis and forecasts, politics and geopolitics, all this will be talked about by serhiy rudenko and the guests of his program, people who have information and shape public opinion, people who defend ukraine and create the future right now, the main and interesting thing in the program is the verdict serhiy rudenko from monday to thursday at 1:00 p.m. repeat at 9:30 p.m. glory to ukraine is a program verdict my name is serhiy rudenko good day and good health to all today is the 145th day of heroic ukrainian resistance of the people against the russian occupiers, president zelensky removed the head

of the security service of ukraine, ivan bakanov, and the prosecutor general of ukraine, iryna venediktova , meanwhile, on monday night, russia launched massive strikes on nikopol in the dnipropetrovsk region, and on mykolaiv, this morning, the russians shelled toretsk. unfortunately, six people died at the same time russian the occupiers continue to lose manpower and equipment of the past era, 150 russian soldiers were killed, in addition, the armed forces of ukraine destroyed three enemy tanks, seven armored vehicles and three anti- aircraft defenses at the beginning of the great war, the russians have already lost 38,450 people in ukraine, 787 tanks, 3,886 armored combat vehicles, 849 artillery systems, 247 rocket launchers, 113 anti-aircraft

defenses, 220 aircraft, 188 helicopters, 2,753 vehicles, 15 ships boats 166 cruise missiles 690 unmanned aerial vehicles and 70 units of special equipment on the removal of prosecutor general venediktov and head of the sbu bakanov from the posts of the situation on the eastern and southern fronts of ukraine today we are talking with my guests - this is gigal levin, an officer of the israel defense forces, a military analyst, mr. galio. good day. good health. thank you for participating in our program. greetings. good day. mykhailo zhirokhov and historian, military expert, mr. mykhailo , should also join us. good afternoon. so, gentlemen, on july 17, president volodymyr zelensky removed from office the prosecutor general iryna

vynediktova and the head of the security service of ukraine ivan bakanov, let's hear how he explains it volodymyr zelenskyi, the inspection of law enforcement bodies has already achieved the first results and will continue. as of today , 651 criminal proceedings have been registered in relation to high treason and the collusive activity of employees of the prosecutor's office, the pretrial investigation bodies of other law enforcement agencies, in 198 criminal proceedings, the relevant persons have been notified of suspicion, in particular, more than 60 employees of the prosecutor's office and security services of ukraine remained in the occupied territory and are working against our state with such an array of crimes

against the foundations of the national security of the state and the connections recorded between the employees of the security forces of ukraine and the special services of russia are very serious to the relevant leaders. each of these questions will receive a proper answer. today, i made a decision to remove the prosecutor general from the posts and prosecute the head of the security service of ukraine. so, gentlemen the president decided to carry out an inspection and removed the temporary, so to speak, from the performance of duties and they dicta and bakanov of the post of the head of the security service of ukraine the prosecutor general of ukraine in wartime is of considerable importance, and even more so the full-fledged heads of these departments, in your opinion, how will all this affect the situation inside the state, because

both the culprit diktova and bakanov were responsible for issues of national security and defense, well, even more so during the war, mrs. mykhaila well, i believe that this is not the reason that the president voiced, it is more or less formal, because most likely there are deeper and deeper motives for this decision, and i do not think that denmark is the internal state of the country. that in some radical way, but nevertheless, any change of leadership always brings some such chaos in management. well, why did i actually mention the authority of those who manage these departments because, according to the current legislation, the head of the specialized

of the anti-corruption prosecutor's office appoints mr. and galya without performing the duties of the prosecutor general, namely the prosecutor general of ukraine, from the point of view of the current challenges facing ukraine , because it is clear that the prosecutor general of ukraine is now conducting criminal proceedings against anti -war criminals who committed crimes on the territory of the ukrainian state. i mean the russians and in relation to this whole machine that is supposed to collect evidence and process this evidence, and the prosecutor general is responsible for this, that is, not fulfilling his duties, namely the prosecutor general of ukraine including signing certain criminal proceedings, how do you perceive these personnel rotations or, let's say, temporary personnel rotations, since i understand that the final decision of the president will be made after these inspections or study of these facts, when the war became a single-level one controlled

by the system of that time for so long, that is, we will already have six months of personnel changes, purges in the personnel, this is a normal reaction, this can be done, that is, if there is a commander and above , the authorities leave the device to be cleaned or change it - this is a normal phenomenon, calmness happens here for a second, eh , ukraine is still democratic, that is, the people want to see some results, that is, so that there is no feeling that the change has decided on a soap here and it's just as if the surnames are exactly the same. well, let me remind you that he emphasized to president zelensky that 60 employees of the sbu prosecutor's office are now colluding with the enemy, this is a huge number. well, again , this is me with my israeli bells, but ukrainians are not told that this is not a huge number, that this is for reality there are few people in ukraine. well, 60. a person who knows information, that is, well, that's a lot of information. and now, it's not just that there are some, and they are actually collaborating, that is, they serve the enemy , that's why anyone

structural changes and in the prosecutor's office, and that's why they didn't have any prices for self-righteousness, that's why we'll see with him, that is, they will be because of the results, so that people don't have the feeling that the government is just playing its own games, and that's nepotism, yes, we have it - eh conditions build me simply from them on others well, let's start. what is this all about? did i have x? come on. and what changed? that is, eh, this is what he thought. the most important thing is that the results of the changes should be shown, if they will be shown to the public, the people. here's a picture of a population ukraine reacts even during the war , so then the staff of the war situation reacts to the entire change. the quality of the notes, the quality changes, that's it, then if this is not the case, if they just change the first name,

but everyone will understand that here it's like their own, they simply changed the interests of them to other interests in an agreement, some there it's just, well, it gives power to the people , turn on the feelings without help, they understand that they have no effect, that is, if everything is there, they just hang out with their decks and that's simple. people go and die, and so on. добрию класс и well и так далее такие it is simply necessary to say that yesterday it became known that the special services detained the former head of the crimean sbu for treason , he is at least accused of treason, he was in office until march 2022 and after information appeared that he was at the disposal of the head of the security service of ukraine, ivan bakanov, we know that ivan bakanov is not an old childhood friend of president zelenskyi, we know that he has a rather strong position because he is in president zelenskyi's team during the election campaign and he has been the head of the service for three years the security of ukraine,

mr. mykhailo, are those arguments or explanations sufficient for you, why these two people and bakanov are removed from their positions, or does the government sufficiently articulate what pan and gal say about what society has still understand what happened, it is absolutely unclear why exactly it was fired and why it happened now because what the president is saying is that he is talking about collaborators and about those who transferred, and collaborators have been transferring since march, at least since march, but they were removed only in july there is, in principle, a more or less conscious version that the detainee gave evidence to bakanov, which were very powerful, and the president made

a decision to remove him from office, but for this he needed the signature of the general the prosecutor, but the prosecutor general at some point decided not to sign any documents , and therefore the president removed the general prosecutor . get society and we will monitor these explanations now it is still too early to make any predictions there and there are two acting prosecutor generals and performing the duties of the security service of ukraine, we know that the dismissal of these officials is taking place accordingly to the law of the verkhovna rada of ukraine, but in wartime there is a rule that the president has the opportunity to dismiss various persons, but this does not apply to

the prosecutor general of the security service of ukraine against this background, what is actually happening in the internal politics of russia continues the missile attacks on our cities, odessa-vinnytsia, mykolaiv, kharkiv, the enemy hits civilian infrastructure, kills civilians, and during the last low it happened quite aggressively and quite in large quantities , did these shellings take place or is it connected with the situation at the front when our e-haimers are destroying e-e bases and warehouses of the russian occupiers in the temporarily occupied e-e territories of p and gali how do you assess the week that is passing since it passed under massive simple missile attack on the entire territory of ukraine very much что вещи что if russia had the weapons of the usa, high-precision missiles,

a sufficient number of systems that cannot be used to find intelligence, a good system that torments you to work on the armed forces of ukraine, this is a point system, this is what finds commanders find in the arsenal when it would have destroyed these imax will destroy warehouses with weapons , i don't know what would have been there, helmets that were carried by shrews with rocket -propelled grenades and so even this we have not had a single incident in the past five months during the documentation of russia striking a moving blow, or that is, they have all the blows, if they are even further, which according to static tsars, sometimes they do not work. was intelligence works for them. oh, relatives, and so far, much has been said. it was well known. and this is a bessilient, that is, we have a blow to the fishing

population , here, again, i have already said this many times. i think that there is something in the warehouses and so on . there is any point of view. look , that's why it's done without power, that is, they want to scare the ukrainian public, after all, they are not full of fools in the kremlin. they understand that in ukraine, yes, there is democracy, and there is a lot of street votes. they hope so that the street will put pressure on the government to counter this missile and ukraine will stop implementing all these weapons, let's max and not only because we are homa, this is the tip of the iceberg , and there will be more systems. to respond to this missile terror and what can be an adequate response to these mass murders of people in peaceful cities, including women and children, with real

e-e real forces and means in order to resist such missile terror, we do not have an air defense air defense system that works. works at the early stage of its own capabilities, its capabilities have recently increased, but still, even out of four out of six missiles, two-thirds are shot down, but these missiles, which pass through the air defense system, cause enormous damage to civilian infrastructure and to the civilian population, and our answer is obvious, it is a continuation of our own defense strategies, strategies, transitions and offensive destruction of warehouses, destruction of opportunities for the russians to attack. well, in which direction, because

those missiles are launched from the black sea or from the caspian, we do not have the opportunity to hit these carriers of these missiles, and i think that in the near future, unfortunately, it will not be appropriate. oleksiy reznikov, the minister of defense of ukraine, in an interview with the bbc stated that no anti-aircraft system is capable of protect the country by 100%, even the israeli one protects only by 80%, the spokesperson said, let's hear about the different 50% of the missiles that fly into our cities and yours, they miss our beer, that is, every ten to five misses, this is an average statistic if you buy from, for example, eh defense system in israel, the experts will tell you

that 80%, they guarantee protection, but not 100, mr. and gal, we quite often during this war, we mention the experience of israel, it is clear that the missiles flying towards israel and towards ukraine are different and uh by flight range and by modification, and yet we quite often talk about some iron dome or some analogue that can be in ukraine, how the israeli one copes and what is lacking in ukraine, but if you compare the experience of israel with cruise missiles, and there iskanders and so on more rockets that are released by terrorists are blanks. in fact, yes, if it is, well, there are more complex systems that are no longer artisanal. it is still a blank ballistic target that is not controlled, that is, uh, it takes off leaves the publisher of the 3 territory flies to its final

point now in greek how does it work, it is not fixed on the rocket itself there and a special radar detects the take-off point of the rocket, its trajectory , since it is not controlled, it is a dummy, even mathematics works, you can calculate its trajectory both there and to this point it is difficult to catch territories there, well, computer algorithms are sent against the rocket, that is, you are not against the rocket, there are no radars, which are there, and they detect the dummy. that's even what resnikov said of course, not everything goes wrong, plus from such a concept, that’s homa os- you don’t release reloading of the iron complex. well, that is, the iron coupon can score, let’s say, one hundred rockets, not 150 rockets, 50 rockets arrive, eh, this is the main one now, eh, cruise missiles and so further well, in essence , radionomic targets, and that is, well, in essence, an airplane is like unmanned aircraft.

one combat aircraft does not miss a single missile and not two parts, there can be seven missiles, the same thing happens with anti-missile defense against such complex targets as cruise missiles. всегда откудајотся here you can never be yourself , he says something ah well eh barrier of 100% protection eh here eh here are these european israel, look when there was a war with lebanon a-and there was a second lebanese war and i will introduce blows was yug israel, and people simply left the south, they all went to and the server was under attack and the north of israel, they all woke up just the north and moved to the center and to the south, and the city was deserted. пастовственных детей в расской доставка well, you just need to understand that it is impossible to stop russian missile terror and 100%

missile. citizens of ukraine must understand that if they go to a supermarket, what is a big shopping center? well, russia can think that there is no i know in the arsenal of the next one, allegedly, or just for the sake of fun and for the sake of intimidation , a rocket will fly there, that is, going to a shopping center in a large city, and not only in a large one. already in vinnitsa and in kremenchug, and not only those who are closer to the front, where the systems work, uh, there are the points at which they groaned, and they reach them. a-a well, there he began a double triple, that is uh, in israel, despite all the hi-tech and so on , people name all the possible measures, and in order to uh, well, protect yourself, by the way, you can object . the iron club, despite his work, there are

concrete shelters, and just when people are worried, people leave the concrete, the ukrainians leave the territory where there are windows, and just when people are worried, they leave the corridor. fragments and so on are not looked at the iron club doesn't look at it, they don't look at the fact that rockets are easier to own than winged ones, and so on, people still leave and go to uh, so by the way, if you look at the statistics, you see the rudeness of thousands of rockets, and the number of casualties is very low on the part of israel, not because only the doll is like that, everything is like that, it’s wonderful , so to speak , because if you look at the rocket launcher, the body passed through the iron dome, that’s it, you’ll be surprised. this is an open country, if today they don’t just lie down on the street on the street, there are photos that have been circulating a lot when there is a war there, some kind of regular gaza strip, hamas, people are lying right on the sidewalks, uh, he covered his head. well, there is a

certain discipline, and so on. unfortunately, that's it, and i'd like to , well, it's already, again, it's a question, it's already a citizen's question, it's a matter of cargoing civil life during the war, and so on - these are white topics. by the way, this topic is quite relevant because today i read in the russian press about the fact that they are conducting training on emergency air warning in moscow, and such training has already begun there today, ramzan kadyrov, the head of chechnya, said that there should be an air defense system in chechnya, obviously ramzan is afraid already ukraine and the antiquity of the flights of missiles that may or may not appear in our country, i don't know , maybe he is afraid of putin or someone else. that is , well , purely theoretically, or the turks.

how air defense and shelter should be organized in ukraine. this is a very relevant question. for the past 145 days, at the beginning of the great war, we were quite badly prepared for the russian offensive on february 24. we all know the state of our bomb shelter. there is a bomb shelter somewhere. somewhere, it’s just a mess under the houses that it’s just dangerous to hide in. mykhaylolo how do you assess the preparations for the next stage of the war there before how should the lives of ukrainians change? how should we reorient our lives because absolutely it is obvious that we will not return on february 23. in other words, we will have to live with it and we will have to learn to live in a new way, as israel is doing, and as those countries that come under

fire quite often, it is absolutely certain that what happened on february 23 will no longer happen. it will not be what it was before 2014, so we need to rebuild the entire state policy . talks have already begun about the fact that all the projects will be in construction, all the shopping centers, all the buildings, uh, many apartment buildings, such an important thing will be introduced . an element such as bomb shelters, in addition, local authorities , especially in border regions, need to think about so-called modular bomb shelters, which are built outside the boundaries of buildings, outside the boundaries of some buildings, and they are designed for a sufficiently large number of civilians a population that can survive e-e bomb and

air-missile strikes e-e or, in addition, those bomb shelters e-e after the soviet times , they need to be reworked, they need to be improved , an information policy must be carried out because people, especially those who did not survive those bomb attacks and rocket attacks, they are related to their own security. well, it is safe, and we saw it in vinnytsia, we saw it in other cities, where the russian strikes were unexpected, not at night, they were on the day and therefore a large number of civilian civilian sources, but i will say once again that it needs to be a state policy at the local level to solve something. perhaps, but these

are quite large funds, capital investments, which local budgets simply will not pull, we are all waiting weapons from the west, more weapons, high-precision weapons, i understand that one of the important meetings this week should take place on july 20, because rammstein iii, the ministers of defense of more than 40 countries that support ukraine, which are part of the so-called anti-putin coalition, the minister of defense of ukraine, oleksiy reznikov , talks about what weapons are we have at the front and what do we need, this is again in a bbc interview, let's hear it only in the future that is, as oleksiy reznikov says, the change in doctrine and philosophy is not soviet weapons, anatolian weapons from of the allies has changed the picture of the battle significantly, let's hear more about how we will reach the borders

internationally recognized as of 1991, period. that is, including crimea, it is absolutely a matter of turn. for this , we need and we absolutely do not hide it, we discuss it with our partners and they know we are hiding, keeping and so on and so on. command centers and it is desperate to change the picture because i am very important and i hope that the additional features of the additional m-270 mls of which three have already arrived and there will be more from our partners well, i am not talking about the black sea do you know where the occupation of the sharp snake is? i can reveal to you the secret of the overcoat. modern technologies were used there, plus ukrainian modern technologies behind the moscow cruiser, you know, now the ukrainian god neptune reigns there

with the help of his harpoon friends, but all this is done and it is by no means of good will, panel gali, taking into account the help we have already received with weapons, we can say that the ukrainian army is now inferior to the russian one. they have a lot of artillery on the soviet side. well, it’s not necessary. how would you try to achieve parity and so on? yes, that’s war if you enter it with the mind. it’s never completely in the forehead. nothing good will happen . they are red, they are glorified and the enemy's side, so you

have a natural effect on them, for this you need tools, that is, not always. you have opportunities, you can find weaknesses, you do not have opportunities. he said that today it has not yet arrived, he will come tomorrow and give me more opportunities, eh, even the occupation of crimea, in fact, there are very many scenarios, eh, here and now , they asked about the 91st hour of the border of krym well, that is see how it is possible to ensure the occupation of crimea with the help of weapons, and again, this is only for scenarios. here you destroy the crimean bridge and