tv [untitled] July 18, 2022 3:30pm-4:01pm EEST
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well, here it is equally important to note that the meeting of the commission regarding the head of the sap in the office of the prosecutor general is being announced, and literally on july 15, information appeared on the website about when and even at what time this meeting will take place, then in shabunin of the central committee of italy noticed that this message had disappeared, then it appeared again on the second attempt, the commission announced that the commission announced and well, in particular, the head of the commission for the selection of the head of the sap , kateryna koval, informed the public that the meeting of the meeting of the head of the sap they did not cancel it, but there is still no quorum for it to be held, some members allegedly do not get in touch, but the commission hopes that vasylev's mother will still meet. what is so difficult, really , and mr. vladlene? what are your expectations regarding the commission's meeting ? will it take place or not
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and will the most important thing be done by the commission? and it is actually quite easy and fast, the competition has been held, and there are supposedly at least a minimum of questions per question. in the verkhovna rada, the gursk foundation joined us, but the commission spoke quite optimistically and accepted these deputies, you can say, as a true friend of ukraine, and one of the main messages and the speech was precisely the movement of ukraine to the meeting of the eu and under silukhov in particular she meant the appointment of the head of sap and the appointment of managers, the appointment of the competition and the procedure
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for conducting and appointing this manager. of president volodymyr oleksandrovich, only he was more dedicated, in more detail, he revealed what he expects from the competition commission about the fact that we have to choose a leader for ourselves and, um, a leader for us, because we have only one course, it is fixed in the constitution. yes, and he not fixed between the agreement that exists between ukraine and the eu, we already have a flag and we already have it from the candidate, we have a flag that we look at every meeting and that's why i think that a clear signal of the president was in yesterday's video address, so we are waiting what there, according to the decision of the sixth court of appeal, i think
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that he will not take responsibility and slow down our movement towards the european union, he will cancel the decision of the court of appeal of kyiv, the city of kyiv, and tomorrow there will be a meeting, i hope, of the competition commission, where are they? i think that there will be no problems to figure out who scored how many points and uh to decide and declare the winner uh, that's another matter, it's not ms. venediktova at that time in december of last year she took it upon herself to because she said that you have candidates to pass a special inspection and i don’t know exactly. well, in my opinion, to what extent i have the information correctly, the results of the special inspection
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have not yet been provided. so that nothing prevents the competition commission from making the decision that society and the president are waiting for, and the employees of sap are also waiting for, and they want to work effectively, but they can't for these reasons that i don't have a movie theater, but i want to come to work , but it's stalled because of these incomprehensible moments, including what kind of substitutions it was the administrative court of the city of kyiv that made the decision that surprised most of the society and in particular, what mr. shabo said about him was and we are waiting for it to start this week , monday, today we already have
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certain results. after all, it is not going to because there is still no understanding whether all the members of this commission will be able to join its meeting . our prosecutor is now actually headed by a completely different person, and i will remind you once again, mr. baby, who, as everyone observes, excuse me , mr. symonenko, who is affiliated with mr. tatarov, is it really a difficult story, isn't it? here i am sabotaging andrei on yours. i don't know. well, what else can you do? how can we do it? the whole commission believes that for the seventh month they cannot announce the winner. i will remind you that at the end of last year, the members of the commission who were, unfortunately,
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delegated it was precisely the verkhovna rada where certain members isolated the meeting, and they refused to actually vote for the final calculation of the number of points, i.e. 2 + they refused to actually vote for the fact that 2 + 2 = 4 and that's seven months, eh, you already said it yourself yes, what is the information that maybe there won't be tomorrow for tomorrow patient from mrs. koval well, this is what they have been doing for the last seven months, the main thing here is to understand that the decision of the a-a district administrative court of the city of kyiv, which is quite odious and the decision is quite dubious, still did not in any way limit the commission in gathering and announcing the winner cont yes, which is a purely technical decision, they give themselves such a refusal that no, let's wait until there is an appeal, an appeal, it seems, the decision should be today. and the fact that the verkhovna rada, the general prosecutor's office announces on the website when the meeting is
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normal practice, and by the way, in this regard, the process of transparency of the competition itself, there were moments that we were not satisfied with, but the final result was transparent, uh, everyone saw everything, how they behaved, who answered and who asked, so it has been 7 months, how could it be appoint to recognize the winner of the contest mr. klymenko and i think during this time it would be enough for the prosecutor general to appoint this person and remove this issue forever and not to give an excuse on the eve of the conditional receipt of the status of a candidate in the eu and these conversational swiss the media, not in any other, would have one recommendation to ukraine or a condition for ukraine to start full-fledged negotiations, just ah, eh, but no, we probably did not have enough promises that we gave to our western partners, in particular, in washington, eh, promises that we made in within the framework of cooperation with the imf , we are now actually obliged to do this in order
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to continue our european movement, not only ideologically yes, but also in practice, it is that there were several extremely important signals, that is, if they are considered separately, they will, so to speak, mean much less than if they are tied into a certain system, in particular, we are talking about the recent visit of the attorney general of the united states and his conversational meeting, the second moment is extremely symbolic - it is the urgent departure of mr. portnov from ukraine, and now we have seen two resignations, de facto resignations well, de jure is the removal from execution , so to speak, completely. and here is the main thing, gentlemen. what do you think awaits us, in particular, our law enforcement system, because the appointment of a good, best , most excellent head of the sap does not mean
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the change of the entire system in general, because we understand that our law enforcement agencies should, so to speak, all be reasonable, yes, to that gray zone at one time , the prosecutorial authorities were simply too lazy to enumerate all those who could influence decision-making in one way or another, yes about the judicial system in the same way. so, it looks like completely unexpected steps are waiting for us, in particular the environment of the president himself and maybe the head of the sap if he is appointed as such in the near future and approved so he can become a certain tool, or am i wrong , mr. neklyudov, i think i don't want to poop, are you wrong or not? i want to say what, in my opinion, what we expect, and what i expect. i believe that the president has a
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clear signal regarding the appointment of the head of the garden . there won't be any delays in this matter. well, that's my opinion. taking into account that he is independent from certain parties. the procedure for his appointment is complicated. if you are appointed, he will not depend on anyone . and already in cooperation with i think that they are also being hired quite quickly. i think that they will soon be able to demonstrate the results that society expects, these are exactly the indicators of the fight against corruption, because the war, i think, is quite serious. it slowed down this work. how focused they were and including the employees acquired - remember the threat the situation was in kyiv, they
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were focused not entirely on those functions that were not inherent to others, in particular the sbu, but they cooperated together and we did everything to fight against the aggressor and fight against what will prevent the loss of the receipt, i.e. the loss of the capital, we remember these terrible times and i hope that a manager will be appointed this week who will independent of anyone and will perform his work in a professional quality and show the results that are expected from him by society and employees, and in particular our european partners, but still, i think that we should not forget that there is a war going on now and god willing god grant that we have success, but we do not we have to forget that every day, unfortunately, the enemy comes to carry out er terror. that's why i think
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that not everything depends on us and we will er measure again in the armed forces and they believe that the leader who will, i hope elected on this sunday, mr. oleksandr, he will perform his work efficiently and effectively, the work that he must perform in accordance with the functional, the work that ukrainian society expects, and mr. oleksandr, well, accordingly, the question is almost symmetrical to mr. borovyk, that is, from one side the tailor left but now, de facto, we understand that the line of the employee of the president's office, mr. tatarova, has been strengthened, it is about our so-called law enforcement block, how about that, let's be okay with that. what do you think is happening, and what should we expect ?
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stronger, it can in no way reflect positively on you and me, er, on ms. tatar, prove it, let's see what i wanted to say, er, what does one expect if you look? well, that's all this week, confessions, return to the garden, confessions on komsaf, yes how can you, my friend, the history of ukraine shows the last seven years to elect positions, it is possible in two years, two months, this is how it was when i elected a successor, so in the 19th year they chose the leaders of the wound itself, the agency of corruption and the third, indeed, the war continues in our country, but there are only a lot of people in the east who say that we are doing our work here. you have to do your work in kyiv, and in fact i said with those words that we still have to continue to
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make reforms, maybe less radical, we could do it during peacetime, but it needs to be done and it is possible that this should form the future chuchu country , for which hundreds of thousands of our fighters are fighting, not only in the east, but you can already buy them all over the country in each of their roles. ugh. thank you, mr. andriy . well, by the way, khrystyna had an interesting message, there is great heroism i don’t even know who is actually nodding at whom, and i’m just trading in pre-war messages from the competitive commission for the selection of the head of the sap , mrs. koval voices positions and also trades in the positions of the prosecutor general’s office, mrs. koval says that we cannot get together because the results of the competition have not yet
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been received in any way from the prosecutor general's office, and he does not announce the winners, and the prosecutor general 's office promised a special counter-procedure of some kind of verification, so specifically, a verification of the results of the competition, as i did not fully understand did he carry it out or didn't he carry it out at all? we already have a new leader, in fact. who is blaming whom and who is to blame? it is not clear to me personally how i feel. sabotage from both sides. ledlena well, not sabotage here. i think that uh, everyone uh, it turned out to be the rut of the court's decision, or uh, the appellate administrative one, well, andriy said that it's not important , but uh, and the members of the commission covered themselves with them. i think that now, after the president's speech, he made it clear what he expects. i think that in my opinion it has conviction. i don't know. there should already be
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a decision. well, i haven't heard anything about it. maybe there, if this decision is positive, the sixth police will cancel the decision of the first instance. i think it will be a signal to everyone. just one more thing about the fact that we need to move go ahead and we need to elect the head of the garden. i think that then a special inspection will appear. if there is nothing there, then it will appear and the commission will meet and a decision will be made. about what we said there, uh, we need to get together and we need to eliminate all this and announce sometimes in order to uh, do it, mr. borovyk, we are actually talking about sap here, but there, in principle, the matter is already done, it has been decided, the competition has arrived, the results are in, but here we go god, we didn't even have a competition yet well, you see
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, the nabu competition has already started, because the cabinet of ministers decided that since mr. dragokos is a member of the commission in sap, his powers in the commission will start according to nabu only when the sap competition ends that is, they connected these two . these two stories, although again, in my opinion, it was not necessary to combine them and under the great political , first of all, the desire to hold a competition for the head was acquired in maybe three months or at most in three months, again, our country has already shown this when there is a desire then there is also speed, i hope that it will be less scandalous and certainly less long-lasting, because on september 1 it will be possible to conditionally celebrate the absence of a manager for 2 years well, we will listen carefully to our president. perhaps in the new video message, we will also hear a certain
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signal. thank you very much, gentlemen . of the verkhovna rada on law enforcement, as well as andrii borovyk, executive director of transperience international ukraine, an expert on anti-corruption policy, worked live on the espresso tv channel, and now khrystyna yatskiv is our next guest, yes. of course, in this part of our broadcast, we will actually talk about a very important and a sensitive topic about the work of journalists in conditions of war, and not so much even about security. rather, it is about conscience and, in my opinion, about the principle by which journalists should be guided, do not harm it very much sometimes it's important, it's always important, let me remind you that recently, at least, the ukrainian segment of the network was very upset by the published video involving the ukrainian blogger and fixer of the film crew of the italian channel anton kudinov, he posted
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a rather sensitive, some would say even questionable video from an ethical point of view with mrs. iryna, the mother of the dead girl liza from vinnytsia, and then they spread it. some mass media eventually felt the hatred of a large part of ukrainian society because there are medical nuances and it is obvious that the woman is not i am completely ready to talk about this topic, and secondly, from purely ethical points about it, and not only, we will talk now with andriy kulikov, head of the commission of journalistic ethics, co-founder of public radio andriy, we congratulate you glory to ukraine glory to the heroes, the only thing i would like to do is a small clarification, but extremely important as far as i understand, the mother of the dead girl lisa wanted and had the will to address people in this way, that is, that it was not, so to speak , manipulative, some kind of deception on the part of mr. kudinov a
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that it was, after all, the realization of her conscious will. how to deal with such things, mr. andriy, mr. antina or mr. anton, please clarify what you mean, or whether her will was simply to convey information and share her grief, or in the form in which it happened this is history, so to speak , does not allow me to give an unequivocal answer, unfortunately, i think that it is necessary to find out everything, you know, in fact , it seems to me a terrible story. and there is an obstacle , we need to talk about outrage and human feelings , because it reminds me of when we we want highlight the suffering of a person and say please tell me, now we are sawing off your left hand, it was just as painful when you were sawing off prague
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. and this, in my opinion, is absolutely unacceptable, because the killing of a child and the fact that russians smoke in ukraine, this in itself is so terrible that to add additional suffering even to a person who declares it. it seems to me that this is absolutely unnecessary. well, what should we do in such difficult situations? that is, we have no influence other than social condemnation on this or that journalist , because in general, as far as i understand, the initiative came from the italian employees of the rainyuz tv channel. by the way, who is playing? this whole group once belonged to silvia in berlusconi, without knowing
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now she is in his possession. certainly have leverage because compliance if you when you when we comply with the standards then we can tell our foreigners to whomever we want we can't do that and they will be forced to do it well, brothers participation in such, you know, if it is a staged plot, then it is all the more unacceptable to be true, because the stage is already propaganda to me personally, well, you know, somewhere, maybe some maternal feelings spoke to me at this moment, but i did not understand the form chosen by journalists, why there were mothers with medical indications to give a video under which very much evoked the appropriate emotions, well, that is, to realize even her will, her desire to address
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the world about her grief, could have been much more delicate , but less, but again, it could be mine subjective view mr. andrii, it is an equally important question. i have information and, uh, such uh, uh, impressions of the work of some foreign journalists , very often authoritative media on the front line. well, for example, severodonetsk lysychansk. very often they cooperate with volunteers, well, they cover them work, in particular, they look at people who are evacuating , collect their opinions, and so on, and these people, these journalists, look more than adequate in their work, although in some places, their attempts to intervene in the situation can also be observed, and so on from a journalistic point of view, from a professional point of view, we understand that this is not ok because they came here to shoot reports and the truth, but very often
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the final materials that they published now, i am talking about the specifically french publication, look too subjective. well, for example, to journalists literally two surveyed residents of lysychansk were enough for them to summarize the situation in the city as such that there are still people waiting to go to russia, although this is not representative . border, which we also sometimes make mistakes and maybe deliberately do not adhere to journalistic standards, there are some that we know are not strictly followed, but we need to work more actively , we need to write articles ourselves, try to get through them even in the eyes of all solid ones that sometimes seem to us to be unattainable species and here it is also very important that we focus too much
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on the english language, there seems to be only ukrinform, well, and maybe one or two organizations conduct e-e information flow in other languages french, italian, arabic well, many, many, not only in english, the world perceives us and i know that there are ukrainian journalists and journalists who quite successfully publish their materials, relatively speaking, in the west, and it is necessary to talk to these people and colleagues and tell them, including us for so many years we have taken you as a model, we have now learned what you did not have to experience, fortunately for you, think about what you can take from us for the whole time and for practice, i agree with you on the
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other hand, we understand that there are standards of journalism which, for example, is personified by adam michnik , yes, there are standards of journalism in quotes, of course, which are personified by skabeeva, and there is no way to do it. it is already so, where there are quotes, that is already the answer to your reply, we do not have any non-standard journalism, but the standards of propaganda or even of course extremely difficult moment, we live in the age of propaganda with and we have a certain kind of revolution in the ukrainian media market, well, in simple words, the akhmetov group is reformatting, so to speak, from the other side, we see that part of the normal of ukrainian tv channels is taken out in parentheses, it is about the same t2 network and we see certain standards that are preached in our joint marathon, the only news. so where we see an extremely large peroxide, so to the side, so to speak, well, i would like to
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use something correct, but i think you understand what i am talking about it's about and you tell me, maybe i don't understand, tell me the praise of licking and so on of the central leading line of the ruling party, yes, and now the question is the question, what awaits us, our beautiful journalism is already waiting for what was already repeatedly and here the main thing is that it is waiting for us and we are not waiting for it and we contrast our work with it i have already commented favorably on the espresso tv channel i can comment favorably on a few more i am grateful for what you are doing not that i perceived it right there at 100% you said ah ah ah but you didn't break down you work colleagues nothing is given
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just like that there are obstacles but again if you follow the standards then the victory will be yours for us that's important but still, even if they try to throw you somewhere not get out thank you thank you, mr. andrii, thank you for your work , you also never allowed yourself to be thrown out by the brackets, so we will only push them apart. andriy kulikov , head of the commission of journalistic ethics, co-founder of public radio. well, in general, a well - known tv presenter journalist. you and i will have a pause , but our numbers continue to work. as i understand it, we still have a few moments and i will
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use them to provide information . luhansk is in touch with us. ah, a new wave of mobilization has started in luhansk, the russians have started going to all the houses in a row and handing out summonses, and they are hunting on the streets, the defenders of luhansk region are writing to us again, which is still resisting and several settlements remain unsettled, and there it is extremely difficult, but even on this small patch of luhansk land, the land of luhansk oblast, our armed forces are doing everything so that the enemy loses it, to put it very, very mildly. well, the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine, dmytro kuleba, told under what conditions ukraine will break relations with belarus. this will happen if belarusian troops cross the border in support of the russian invasion. the direct speech of the
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minister of foreign affairs of ukraine, mr. kuleby. belarus is an accomplice in the crime of aggression. they themselves will be torn from belarus if the armed forces of the republic of belarus cross the border of ukraine well, there is just as unpleasant i hope purely organizational news switzerland refused to treat wounded ukrainian soldiers at the request of nato, the reason cited by the swiss is the need for a state with a neutral status to integrate wounded servicemen in accordance with the requirements of the geneva convention . well, i think that everything the world can change , the world is changing a lot, let's look at sweden and finland, which for a long time also wanted to call themselves neutral, but now they are actually not. well
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