when they say, it comes out in the 23rd year. yes, indicating the date here, even as in russia, that part of the sanction can be revised if you change your behavior, for example, if you pause there or start thinking about stopping hostilities and so on, that is, it seems to me that this is an attempt to show russia that its exit is partly sanctioned . candidate of political science of political science, because you are with us. thank you, friends, and we will continue to tell you the stories of this war, the stories of people, the stories of enterprises that are bringing our victory closer, the whole city and neighboring villages were fed with bread, and the ingredients were mined with all the truths and lies, and all this in the occupation, how one bakery resisted the invaders and proved that the

main thing is to love your work in the story of anzhelika brushnevska we see at the end of february at this bakery, they were preparing for march 8, they bought products to bake festive sweets and in the only thing we could bake here was bread, there was a very big demand right away, we baked about 700 kg of bread and bakery products before the war, wartime, during wartime, we started baking somewhere from 4 to 5 tons, the city was occupied , russian troops put a block posts destroyed bridges and cut people off from the outside world to bring at least some products into the city. it was impossible. bread became almost the only available product for the locals, and the bakery where it was baked was in the center of the city and it was not easy to work here. we went generally at half past seven in the morning and we always met a convoy, we went to work because we had the duty to provide people with bread, we worked 24/7 and because

of the curfew, the night shift at the factory became 4 hours longer working hours at 17:00 in the morning even the confectionery shop was repurposed for bread more the load of bread was more, but how did you endure? it was scary. and it was scary for the children . there were no children, mostly adults in chernihiv . the factory began to run out of ingredients for bread , the search for them in the occupation turned into a real quest with yeast, there were problems. we had to buy them on thursday, the 24th, go to chernihiv and gave a call to the internet. they threw the girls who has yeast there, pressed dry, people began to demolish us for a moment they stretched a little more. but that was

not enough. fortunately, the factory had frozen pure cultures, so they started making sourdough bread. it is necessary to feed them only with rye flour, because wheat flour is not allowed, because they will die. and soon the rye flour at the factory began to run out. we turned to the other owners, and they came to us. it became in sola, then local residents also began to bring it to her, while the bakery was looking for ways and means to feed the city with bread, the city resisted the occupiers, and on the birthday of taras shevchenko well, nothing changes we are going to shevchenko, we are laying flowers, we are making a rally , uh, it is extinguished of course they knew all this and came to the place of the rally, they watched but did not

shoot when the first columns left, we are not far from here . can't wait, the city was liberated from occupation in almost a month, now the main product is baked at the bakery in slightly smaller volumes , more and more sweets are appearing, but the approach to work at the bakery is still the same, we all love our work you have to love your work, love bread and then everything will work out and it turns out to be of good quality and tasty anzhelika brushnevska oleksandr davydenko marathon the only news meanwhile russia wants to strengthen its military copper at the expense of iranian drones and the united states of america received intelligence data and what are they saying that sanctions will be imposed against

iran if it transfers drones to russia. this was stated by the speaker of the state department . hand over several hundred aircraft to russia and will train the russian military to use them , yes, and according to the united states, russia wants to get drones for the war against ukraine, and i will add that today today is already the morning of july 19th, accordingly, putin will arrive in iran today, there will be events in it is a tripartite summit, in addition to the iranian leader , turkish president erdoğan will also take part in it, friends, now we will discuss this topic with our guest - this is armen chebovchan, a historian, a journalist, a political observer from the united states america, mr. armenian, good night . hello and glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes of the

drone. first of all, let's not reject the statement of the minister of foreign affairs, who said that they do not intend to transfer drones. and they are not going to escalate the conflict in ukraine a-a but eh, if you take into account that the situation in the middle east may worsen now , and eh, in general, the situation with cheese may worsen because we saw that our president, chubayton, already said that we are allowed according to the akum in the middle east we are not let's start so that this vacuum will be filled and the framework will be filled by russia, and if we take into account that now there can be an aggravation between the early and

the middle eastern countries, and with the audit of arabia, israel and the united states, then in this case, the writers may look and the early will be transferred, well, let's understand, i don't know how about you? ira's drones. well, i'm not an expert, but i'm not sure that iran has many, many high -quality drones. today, the states used some in this region, some were shot down, some were intercepted, but in general, although it is a copy, in general, it can also fulfill its function , and we know how serious drones are in the same states, yes, this you know serious and dangerous weapons, yes, even if we even assume that she copied these without pilots once, but here, as they say, they need to

take refuge in italy, and in a literal sense , because there is very important data here, and we already know its quality details, even, lenses, for example, on american drones, well, if it has already been purchased, and that is, if you put any technologies now in iran, that is, there, i am not saying that they have any of yours, there is a third line, a maximum of three plus well the army will not agree with you, you must not forget that iran has recently become a space state, they even have their own program to master space, so this indicates that they have reached a certain technological level, you know. space technologies they and the new ones are not at all new. so, uh, we don’t know anyway, let’s still uh, uh, we’re not going to overexamine the technology, and it’s early to assume

that some details they can be uh, uh, taken from china. i don’t know, because we we know here china has pilots of different types, look here iran will wait until the end of the truth well, this is actually a very wide spectrum there wars are colluding, maybe there are sanctions and plus a-a month ago they were driving, they are wrong and early russia signed a memorandum mass locally to save the courts iran minister of internal affairs iryna when he was in italy he said that that is eh we are not convinced - uh , they are killing the conflict uh, in ukraine, but why did

the americans expose this plan? and still they will make concessions and early or the union of the states will still remain at odds yes, yes, the nuclear practitioner, because you look at it now , demands that all stocks be removed, but the west understands that if you are the same state and theses play the same saudi, they understand that if now they will leave regarding iran, will iran soon be blackmailed with the second question, that is, it will not be like that, and you will keep your nuclear missile program in such a mode that if you do not do it

in a month, i will have nuclear weapons. they do not want to understand this go on the occasion and this leads to the fact that now one of the parties must make concessions in the after the visit to the middle east, after the jubayte statement, we also know that the main commander of the israeli army spoke out and he said that we should be ready for a military response and eh, and there is one more interesting thing here. if you look, eh, the head of the cia was in armenia. oh, this is very interesting. armenians here, let's put three dots, because we have an important announcement for our viewers, in particular, those who are in odesa region. it was just announced there. friends, please be careful, don’t ignore it and plan to go immediately to the shelters , because we know how dangerous missile attacks are, in particular, the sea is close to you there, and

rockets can fly, well, quite quickly, faster than to remote regions. i think that odesa is there in principle it is not even worth reminding this additionally because there have already been many cases of such shelling, of course our anti-aircraft defense is already experienced and tries to intercept everything, but you still need to take care of your own safety or you need to be careful, please go to the shelters odesa air alert yes paner in me we had to announce an air alert thank you for waiting now a-ah let's continue you finished because the leader of this movement made an unexpected visit to armenia why with what glory to the cia e-e bus mini, and after that, with a visit to the army, he visited naryshkin, that is, he sailed in the outer regions of russia, and we can assume that, after all, in the regional situation, this may be related to the

situation with cheese. oh, we can't ignore this. вропоросы and what concerns when your question is in general, look at russia now russia considered wars first in ukraine three options yes china will help and how we will leave china will not help eh will help ot akb as we see here is how it would eh no no wants to help eh and in general it is necessary eh that eh how countries utkp relates to this war in general and in general in the main sense we understand it eh why are you these countries now here is the kb the same kazakhstan of the tajiks is the same as tajikistan, and also armenia, yes, if it is global russia is left alone and now she is the only chance left for iran and because now iran's relations

with the west are also worsening, and there is something like, i used to go here. it is very interesting that this would be you golytsy here in russia wanted uh so that the akb would definitely intervene in the war. that's how she would help, and belarus wanted that if she was going to fight, at least the pharmacy about dkb so that she wouldn't be like that well, she didn't stay alone or not alone fell under sanctions vmeste s россии and individuals to understand eh in general что будет делать россии дальше if even the wounds don't help, yes, and the countries, that's all of them, that 's all, and all of them are on the st. petersburg economic form. does not want russia to invade northern kazakhstan at any moment. you know here. it is very interesting that the countries that are friends with russia are not friends. because they think that russia will help

them. they are friends so that russia does not hurt kazakhstan . text хорошо vot and kp himself wanted a to provide for myself because i knew that at any moment when russia entered ukraine, i could enter severny kazakhstan, i apply for er, so to speak, a school in russian lands, and fc vychykah armenia. here is the kp because armenia does not want them to want some kind of keep the balance because armenia had a lot of resources in azerbaijan. she solved the first two questions so that, how would she be able to, well, cheaply, the weapons are obtained from russia, and the second one, so that the azerbaijanis entered the waters of the kb. and if azerbaijan left first so, the army also had big problems, uh, the guards and tajikistan, you know, they have problems with

each other, first with the collapse of the soviet union , and russia wanted to create nato, and she thought that all these countries, uh, they would be anti- western . they want these countries to be western, and here i am, you wanted to hell, here we talked, we won, russia has a few options left, here is ukrainian diplomacy, i think it should be more about those active in these countries, and with iran, and uh , in the countries hoda kb a-a i, er, think that this is from in china and in china and india, now it is not necessary to rely only on the west. i think that the ukrainian uzi of ukrainian diplomacy is a big job because there are a few that are just strange, which russia continues to hope for, and it is obvious that all these countries they don't want to go against the request, but

if we exclude ram because there is a flood with the player, it is not clear yet. er, russia is here, er so ram is still hoping that he can come to an agreement with the united states, here is a very important question, and in one word, what i said is that russia should be left as a united , shameless partner, as a friend without a rubber , the rising is strange, well, south korea , north korea and training and retroactive exceptions, they can continue, they can continue. well, what do you think about the sanctions? this is in america, and the sale of drones, a game in

russia, will mean that iran will create a nuclear weapon. if the rank will continue its nuclear program. and if the game wants to agree, well, logically, yes, i don’t agree, but according to my logic, still look, if ira wants to agree with the request, then why sell drones to russia if iran does not want will come to an agreement with the west and wants to prove the nuclear program. yes, let's go to war. well, it can be said early. well, there is turkey. it sells drones to ukraine, and other countries sell them anyway. why can't we sell to whomever we want? but we must not forget about of the third participant of the meeting in tehran. yes, this is rdgn, he will also

come there. this is what you expect from these negotiations. why did they decide to meet in principle? this is the trinity there, eh, in tehran, what unites them, what separates them, what are the expectations and let them evaluate form 3 + 3 no no form tripelust 3 a-a was announced to turkey a-a it was after the war in the caucasus turkey proposed a form of three plus three it means russia iranturtsiya it’s a good thing it’s very serious problems both for ukraine and for all countries of the former soviet union for uh, turkey offers three pluses - it means turkey of russia and the rampole of azerbaijan, georgia and armenia, that is, uh, it means that uh , later on in the soviet space and even in some parts of the middle east a-a m- m rules of the game will be decided

iran, russia, and turkey after the proposal of this format, the minister of defense, the head of the pentagon, austin in tbilisi said that this means that these countries want to push the west and the united states out of the region, now, turkey and russia they still continue to wrap themselves around three chandeliers , there are problems with iran because ram understands that after the creation of three plus three, the role of russia and turkey in the region will be decisive, and iran will be how would it be to say uh, not even the main micro, not even a secondary player. and here you are do you think this has nothing to do with the war going

on in ukraine, this meeting is fucking well, let's say it directly, it's the first visit of putin, since the start of the war in some other state , which is so subjective. let's say yes, yes, and before that he went there, in my opinion, where on his own, until now, he went to tajikistan there, well, in general, it’s all a satellite and in russia, we understand it, and here you are, it’s already. well, some kind of conference. three-story, that's what will be created there, interesting for us, it will be created russia is the one that will oppose the west there and the entire western agenda in the world as a whole, or is it the search for peace, and ordigan will in this case look for some solution options. what do you think? that the ukrainian dipper of diplomacy is not active in some important times, by the way, texts

that are very important for ukraine, here, uh, i think that ukrainian guidance, new videos, pointed out the same, the same, the global security of the region, how big is the region ? like, that's why i say more projects. here you are the format of three plus three to which i voiced this format, even the americans reacted to it, yes, they strongly included this format also. i think that the ukrainian problem is because it is so global . yes and when we say that three plus three they will still discuss it means that they will also be like that already and uh all over the soviet space this is how you would do it like the molotov-ribbentrop pact just ah, in a three-party format, i hope that it’s still uh, because you said,

what kind of fire pits ? ukraine's question in this global format will be, uh, it will definitely be, and russia will seek new support to bypass sanctions, and turkey and iran, uh, you know that so far, turkey and the game are not even azerbaijan. well, the state and the caucasus and georgia, armenia, they are not joined the sanctions yes yes yes well you know well let's have small countries it's clear yes they have a large area there russia is now trying to sit as if armenia would and then georgia will also sit authorities so that armenia is included or in the union, how is it here, what is the composition of russia in general

? to help russia bypass sanctions here here is a ukrainian question, that is, drones will be serviced, i am sure of this, but the main question is how good turkey can help russia despite the sanctions, and erdoğan, i have talked about this several times, and erdoğan is trying to settle on two chairs it was clear right away. you know your way of saying that turkey buys stolen grain. and we understand that ertugan immediately became an enlightener to justify why he insists on changing to sanctions. and then you know the authorities of turkey and people close to you. and they have a questionnaire in the west, they don't want the system of these western

democracies to reach them either. they say that the west must take into account the further interests of our tradition, and so on and so on, and we know that there is an ertuganism here, when they have something in common in this matter as well. interests to regret and that's why in ukraine it's not only a war between russia and ukraine, it's a war we're here in the winter, the kratii were wounded by a-a mm or totalitarian regimes, it 's a war for freedom and not only for the freedom of ukraine , it's war for the freedom of armenia for freedom and georgia, for freedom, for european values, for the values ​​of europe, for an american-centric peace. well, that's what we call it, but it's understandable that i mean it. yes, that's why the west is again using all methods and methods to support

ukraine, then weapons are placed on the necessary scale . a-and that's why, because god forbid, ukraine won't win this war, in the peace, there will be peace a few steps away from bydzhekhaus, and he was erdovan , it was clear from the beginning, yes, he doesn't want to russia was too strong. yes, he doesn't want russia to swallow all of ukraine erdogan also does not want the west to be seven days , the portuguese do not want the west to continue to strengthen, democracy continued to flourish, and because such a regime as in turkey, in russia, and before, it is not profitable for them, eh, that's why you choose unfortunately, yes, but this it doesn't matter ukraine should be proactive ukrainian propaganda from the turks

a-and you must ensure that turkey and sat down to invalix sanctions a-a and iran and as far as possible and china and others here i am sure that ukrainians and ukrainian diplomats are what eh there is turkey is sitting on two chairs, and what is ukraine supposed to do? you say that you need your diplomats to sway turkey to our side, and you know that turkey will continue to sit on two tours, so that’s the end. yes, yes, you can have a vacancy, so to speak, yes, and how important it will be. thank god, after all, turkey has become a memory. uh, the request managed to force her, i don't know, to turkey and loves here

turkey or turkey did not want to go against the west now, to accept sweden in nato in finland, and in this case, you know, there was a hysteria at the same time that they turned turkey 's back on us, and so on. and so on. our cargo will not yield if the support of the west of ukraine will only increase, then those countries that think that the photo will succeed, they can strengthen themselves on two or three chairs, they can strengthen their positions, yes, at the expense of ukraine, at the expense of i don't know other countries, and for the account of the americans, europe, yes, the most important thing is for the west to remain united and strong. the west did not give in to any blackmail. it did not even take half a step back. it is impossible for

the west to deal with it. unfortunately, we see that the magus, er, back, the frog will do it sometimes a-a, but let's hope that, er, soon all this er, that is, the smell will understand soon, that even if it will be, this is a very good story with the turbine, when, after all, the canadians sent the turbine, and russia they skali's passport, er, it's the west, it means i have a russian, or what's not, said the problem of u we do not know when. yes, the west must understand that if we make one concession, it is a request. that is, russia will demand other concessions, and ram will demand this concession. turkey will need this stack. let me say that they cannot yes, that is, at the expense of ukraine, at the expense of other countries, at the expense of the west, these countries could not sit on a few chairs, the west should be united and should help ukraine more, well, we criticized

turkey , of course. intermediary and platform and negotiations, how would the negotiations go? yes, but they are going to the world in general, no, for obvious reasons, this has already been said many times, but also turkey supplies drones to ukraine, famous fighters. well, it can be considered that some are supplying, but we don't know much about their work, too, sorry, i just want to talk to you, i'm not criticizing turkey, this is their policy, it's good for them, that is, uh, i'm just analyzing, uh, why turkey, for example himself so he leads for the sake of his country and arduvan does what he thinks, for example, it’s better, of course, for me to criticize