there are guests to watch, let me remind you that we can be on the espresso tv channel every monday at 12:13, at least where it has not been turned off from the network. and also on social networks, in particular on youtube, those of you who are watching now on youtube, please like it if you like it like it, if you don't like it, put a dislike for any comment. i will also welcome and thank you for it , because this way we will be seen a lot more people will see our program on youtube. well, i'm ready to introduce our first guest this oleksandr kraev, expert of the council on foreign policy, ukrainian prism. i congratulate you, mr. oleksandr, i wish you a good day, yury. good day to you too. glory to ukraine. i am glad that you have joined me today, because i am very much looking forward to your professional comments. 'clear look at the first question i didn't have in the script first i wanted to ask him

it concerns the visit of republican congresswoman victoria sparks to ukraine then the reactions of the republicans to what she said and she said here, she accused the ukrainian authorities in general , even the entourage of the ukrainian president, of almost a-a cooperation with the russians, and yesterday we all found out, it was a shock for all of us . relations of the head of the sbu bakanov and the prosecutor general venedikt, we will not talk with you about any procedural matters, whether it is in accordance with the legislation or, uh, he did it, how should he have done it, or did it need to be done the main thing i am interested in is whether this could somehow be related to ms. sparza's visit to ukraine and whether there is any reaction of the republicans to this , not only the american republicans. in fact, the question is very valid, very interesting, because we know

that the americans have done specific reforms of ours. very big emphasis, namely on the reform of the judicial system, on the reform of the anti-corruption system and on the reform of the security system, and to be honest with bakanov , many american colleagues had very significant questions about the transparency of his appointment regarding the transparency of the appointment of his deputies, therefore, when there was a decision to remove him, in principle, the americans reacted more than positively to bakanov, to venediktova, rather, there was surprise, surprise, precisely at our level with you, because we do not fully understand, well, he is deft. let's say that many stories with americans were involved, let's remember, although the film is a jerk, let's ask for the opening of criminal proceedings against high-ranking american officials, but in fact for them it was, well, rather out of order. and why, that is if everything is clear with bakan, then it really was a surprise, but so far, if you look at the general

reaction of analysts, if you look at the reaction of the media and with the visit of spart, so far, few people connect it, rather the question of whether it is connected with the visit of victoria farb - this is the ukrainian space. now the americans are doing it, so far it is not connected well. thank you. well, well, now let's get to the first question, which was supposed to be the first visit of the president of the united states of america, joe biden , to the middle east. well, there he met with many people and we will conclude many agreements, let's talk about ukraine, did he bring something that would benefit us well, first of all, we need to look at it from a geopolitical point of view, because in essence his visits to saudi arabia, his visits to israel are the formation of a new system of security in the middle east, a new system of interrelationships, respectively, a new system of interrelationships in the middle east. this is another blow to what the russians call their soft underbelly.

why, what did biden mainly agree on, he agreed on energy issues, it is about increasing production, redirecting sales flows to european markets, it is weapons because, for example , saudi arabia. as far as we know, he agreed on the transfer of all old- style weapons, including soviet weapons, to ukraine. and thirdly - this is also what i started about at the beginning of the formation of the new security system, that is, new political alliances, confirmation of old friendships and the formation of new interdependence, as the americans themselves call it because, in essence, it is means for ukraine in terms of energy, this weakens the russian position even more because, in fact, after this visit, russia was literally thrown out, and the effect of all future projects, besides, there was not much more oil on the european market. therefore, the europeans will not think about whether to return to russia. or not from the point of view here it is more than clear to us new weapons will be provided well, not that new new is not in the plan modern, but new that

we did not have, that is, in fact, we will close, we, more precisely, the americans leave for us russia without additional allies, we saw that the russians tried to establish connections with audits , we saw that the russians tried to threaten israel through their bases with attacks, but for now, the americans were able to assure some and other allies that, in principle, the negotiations with iran, an ally of russia, will end positively and he will withdraw from russia, and the threat of hamas and russia is not as terrible as they portrayed themselves, mr. alexander . that the united states of america and saudi arabia agreed to help ukraine with the export of grain from ukrainian ports. there was not much of this information, but i found it. can you tell me more specifically how exactly the united states of america and saudi arabia can help ukraine through sported to export grain, first of all, we

understand that the osudites have their own potential for military influence in the middle east, namely, to syria and other countries of the middle east, the russians mainly exported grain stolen in ukraine, i.e. in fact, the first option of such cooperation is simply a banal stop of these trawlers and tankers and an inspection. what is the origin of this grain, where did it come from and why exactly are the russians exporting it? this is the first option . also for many countries on the mushroom, that is, north africa is an infrastructure hub, that is, many supplies, including food products, go through saudi arabia through its not only ports but through di airports through days of road networks and so on and so it is the second option that saudi arabia in principle will simply control infrastructure hubs and track its origin of certain goods the third option is rather the sphere of political

driving arabia has a large influence of much smaller players in the regions, including again in north africa, where saudi arabia has huge investments in judicial arabia, there are even entire political parties that support the saudi regime, and therefore, yes, but help audits at least feet, a condescending attitude to our problems to our questions will already mean that in many countries that are about the saudi regime and parties, respectively, they will respond to grain supplies and to russia's offers, well, let's call it that in a pro-ukrainian way, let's sum up this joe biden cart to forget about in general, it can be considered successful both for the united states of america itself and for the west for ukraine it was a successful visit honestly i considered it one of the first and few diplomatic victories of biden not only that he managed to sign a whole series of good weather, so he

showed character when he said sorry, because in fact it was a big question, he said even during the election campaign that he would never forgive muhammad, he salaman, the murder of journalist jamal kashi and everyone said how will this visit go if he doesn't forgive him, but in fact biden was able to do everything he did and signed the agreement, he didn't shake salman's hand, he was very diplomatic and tactfully gave him a thumbs up, which i think will just become part of of the diplomatic protocol at the highest level. and thirdly, he still had a public one at a press conference. and before this personal conversation, he accused muhammed of murdering a journalist for me, that is, he saved face in front of his voters, and he gave new opportunities for the sadites and for the united states on in the middle east and he actually overturned the agenda that he had set for himself, that is, no matter which way you look at it, the visit was really a success, it’s interesting, yes. now, let’s talk about iran. you already started talking about it. published photos on his page of photos taken

from a satellite that show drones at a certain iranian airfield right now we can see it on our screens uh and these drones will be - these are the same drones and about which russia is negotiating the purchase with iran and what at that moment, why do they give it because at that moment there was a russian delegation in iran, which may even have seen these drones, watched and inspected them well, it is obvious that iran completely denied this information through the mouth of the minister of foreign affairs, the minister said that we we cooperate with russia even in the defense and military sectors. but we do not interfere in the war in ukraine, we are a neutral country, and so on. it could all be fakes, they didn't believe it and so on, now

this information is appearing again, can we believe it , or is it true that russia is negotiating with iran to buy these drones, what russia is trying to find where are your sponsors right now, or is russia trying to find allies that are willing to provide more modern weapons, which russia is simply unable to produce due to sanctions, this is understandable, but if , for example, china provides russia only with semiconductors and other materials, then it can be said that iran will really be able to bypass the pressure of the west circumvent western sanctions and in principle it is risky to give drones to russia, to be honest , i have great doubts about this for several reasons, firstly, if china can conduct such a dual policy in and, unfortunately, the potential for such politicians are much smaller, that is, on the one hand, the chinese have almost 40% of the world economy in one form or another, and therefore, one way or another, china has the right to behave well. it is necessary

to start oil negotiations regarding the lifting of us sanctions, i doubt that he will be able to introduce himself in the same way . currently, there are a lot of levers of influence in the institutions of the united states and the european union, which should force the guarantor to a more prudent politicians in this matter well, but such a meeting could have taken place in general, such negotiations between the russians and the iranians about the sale of drones could have taken place at all, of course they also took place with the iranians, and it seems to me that the information that we received that these drones were placed so openly that there was a russian the delegation is part of iran's information policy. well, in fact, they already have to show the measures that and we are not so simple, don't think that we will give in now, we will raise our paws and do everything. as you say, we are here now in russia we will help, we are so strong, we can do it, but you force us not to do it, make us concessions, make us normal negotiating conditions so that we do not do this with

russia . the provocativeness of informational messages, well , this is part of modern politics, this is part of what we popularly call a hybrid information war, well , then see more about iran and we will close this topic , iranian iran, well, in this way, he can blackmail somehow the west constantly insists that some concessions should be made to iran in the negotiations regarding the iranian nuclear program and so on. the united states of america and the west also say that we will be there. europe in particular says that it is necessary to renew the negotiations there. does the end have or not actually has that and this one we lead the end focuses on us because iran has this parallel to it the united states is negotiating with venezuela and unlike iran which how do we we remember that in march he organized street fights in saudi arabia, who fired

missiles at iraq in march, saying that he was shooting at siege bases, eh, in parallel with this, venezuela went to certain services, the venetian leader of maduro went to negotiations with a plan for the year, the philosophical leader of naduro released the americans who were held captive by him, what is the result? now, by the end of the year, almost 3 million barrels of oil have been offered for the european market from venezuela and to lift part of the sanctions, so the village again leads its diplomats to washington for direct negotiations with the americans and what are we early and in the morning nothing early so far sanctions well early still the threat of even tougher sanctions due to cooperation with the russians that is, the americans put a very simple language you have venezuela you see what they succeeded in that means they did not give in ideologically , but at the same time they are already making money and they are already on adequate relations with us. well, if you continue, if you do not reach even adequate relations, well, in fact, this fall will again be deficient for you, this fall mainly you won't be able to trade oil, that is, in fact, they have

time, because at best until the beginning of september until the beginning of october, when europe will dig in for the heating season, options, geopolitical games are geopolitical blackmail , they are so interesting. a little bit . i want to develop this topic more. why? because the wall street journal, also in its columns, journalists said why they published data that china continues to sell semiconductors to russia despite sanctions. and something there seems to be aluminum oxide, which is used in the military industry. now, i would like to ask you to show us exactly this graphic , if we have it with sharp johnny, yes. please tell me why china, but you have already started to answer a little, but why china openly ignores these er american sanctions are introduced here only the economy is connected or is politics still connected hmm maybe even er some

military topic is connected i mean the issue of taiwan i.e. we will help russia and then it will help how can you comment on it? i rather saw it as an ideological plan, because if we compare what russia asked china and what china gives to russia, well, excuse me, it's heaven and earth, russia asked china, well, literally, russia asked china for ammunition provide modern drones and modern artillery anti-smuggling systems, china in return provides russia with materials for it on non-existent machine tools well, because the machines for processing these materials in russia, well , literally on the fingers for one year because it is in mainly western equipment that russia is simply unable to reproduce, therefore, in essence, china is showing the states that it is good with these steps. we are currently negotiating with you on trade and are quite successful. by the way, china and america have been lifting

mutual customs restrictions for the second month in a row, a few percent at a time, but these a few percent in the volumes of the usa and china are billions and tens of billions of dollars. that is, we are negotiating with you, we have given up any further moves with russia, because in fact the chinese have torn up many billion contracts with the russians that existed until 2030, the chinese stopped buying russian futures, chinese banks simply stopped issuing loans to russian businessmen, and therefore, against this background, these deliveries are a trifle. but why are they being made so publicly? china has already clearly stated that the second cold war has begun and in these cold lines of confrontation are between beijing and washington, and such cannot ideologically retreat, despite the agreements with the americans, it must be shown that this position of ours is what we call an alternative democracy is the chinese model of leadership that we will plant all over the world and this is what everyone said to the child that will lead the world to a bright future and america is a rotting pseudo-democracy

giving capitalism therefore it is not even so much a political not only a military struggle but already a struggle of ideology we you are returning again to the time when the ideology was more dictatorial and more democratic. yes, and they are precisely on the examples of how organized systems were at war in the international arena. see also about taiwan. please tell me whether china can now use the russian war in ukraine in order to somehow well, i don't know whether to start a war against taiwan and start to take it away as they threaten, but at least somehow more actively work in this direction. i think he has already used it and did very wisely without starting anything because let's we will recall the situation at the beginning of the invasion, when in fact the first weeks when, unfortunately, the situation around kyiv was very difficult, the situation was difficult in almost all our regions, and several squadrons alternated in the skies of taiwan every day aviation of the chinese liberation army and taiwan was actually blocked by the chinese fleet and all this time

china was ready for an invasion, but as soon as the west began to impose serious sanctions, as soon as we started talking about the rammstein system, as soon as it became clear that a letter would be introduced and that the west would be from ukraine to the end, at least the united states at the same moment, biden makes a statement that they will defend taiwan to the end on a level with ukraine, in fact, at this moment, everything is understood in china, and we have been almost for almost a month and a half we do not see chinese fighters and attack aircraft in the sky over taiwan, we do not see any threats, and even the exercises that were supposed to be held last month came in a rather limited form, that is, in fact, russia became a test model for china, it became a litmus test for russia, they saw the example of russia as a measure will react to any attempt to change the borders, and it was russia that provoked the west to a tougher response , including china, and in this way, well, china used the invasion of the russian federation in ukraine he simply understood that it is not yet time

, well, that is, we can say that despite the ideology that we share in china, there are still intelligent people who at a certain time did not make mistakes that could have been made so absolutely correctly and you know on the one hand it is good that they are there, but on the other hand , it will be much more difficult to fight with them in the future. well , well, but this is in the future. now we have the current situation . see another article, this time from foreign policy. fiona hill is an adviser to three american presidents, this is barack and george bush, the younger barack obama and donald trump said in the article i want this article to be shown to us now that the event is in a hurry because there is a lack of time in the event, but then it is also in a hurry because the 2024 elections are ahead and that in case of failure, they can expect trouble, mr. oleksandr, do you share

ms. hill's opinion that in the short term , putin may have problems in russia even if he loses in ukraine, and that is why he wants to do something by 2024. in fact, i simply share this opinion. unfortunately, i do not i know, i read more pchilka's argumentation, but i have absolutely adequate reasons why you should hurry later. look, it's going now, if you're not mistaken. it's the 144th day of the three-day seizure of kyiv. as you can see, i mean, well, in the center of kyiv, we have music playing. the sun is shining and there is more traffic on the street than there was before the war , that is although despite the fact that the russian media is closed as much as possible despite the fact that the russian leadership assures its people as much as possible that they will reverse victory well, the question simply arises and how long can this last well, is it really that weak the russian army is not the only one that has to make big losses, that is, one way or another, but the question arises not only and not so much in the population, but

in the putin regime itself, that is, a lot of very oligarchs , this is what we talked about at the beginning of the war, and it is finally starting to show, they are losing money a lot faster than expected, they lose prospects much faster than they wanted , prospects and opportunities for development, their children lose their future, their capital, that is, relatively speaking, if putin himself is ok, what is the situation the situation is definitely not okay for collective putin, and therefore the question arises that in such a dictatorial regime he is not so worried about elections. it seems to me that he is worried about the whole situation of the impossibility of implementing his plans as he wanted. and accordingly, the need to spend more money on the loyalty of his vassals, the need for what to decorate more resources so that these vassals perform their functions and, accordingly, to maintain the stability of the regime, and for now these expenses can set his main corner. well, do you believe that these vassals, i mean among the businessmen who, ah, well, own a share in the russian business of

billionaires, that they are beginning to be dissatisfied, no , in the beginning, there were these notes of dissatisfaction, you could hear them, deribaska spoke there, others spoke , but don't you think that in with putin, they still have more chances to make money than without putin , i mean in russia and that they still do not pose a threat to him, in fact, this is a good question, but i would cite several indicators of markers that indicate that the system is starting little by little to change, let's remember the last meeting of the security council and the huge changes in the cabinet of ministers and the huge changes in the security council that took place, that is, in fact, there is a reshuffle again, and again putin is bringing his people closer to him, that is, former spies or current spies. accordingly , we saw after that quite sharp statements that his it is obvious that this classical chaos of dictatorial regimes begins again, when intelligence begins to fight with the military, to fight secretly, but

still fight for a certain influence. it's not even so much business as just the intra-system horizons, and you can draw conclusions that putin needs to somehow change the system, and then you understand about earnings. as soon as the new putin comes, they wanted to change the position of president to the position of ruler. i would say it would be better to replace the position of the president of russia with putin of russia it would somehow make more sense, and maybe even the supreme putin of russia, yes, that is, in fact, the new supreme putin will be obliged to pay these oligarchs to pay these control to their keys much more than then the current one simply to win their loyalty again. therefore, the big question is whether putin is old or new, we will be more profitable, interestingly, let's give you one more question, but there was already information in the american media about the trade in american weapons in ukraine, well, that is, and the weapons that we receive from the united states of america from the countries of the

west and we will use them somehow we are selling it is an informational and psychological operation of russia, and in fact it is the same here, i can simply cite my own experience. my colleagues and i from our well, let's say the battalion of the information forces are very clearly different from the people. they appeared at about the same time, it was two weeks ago, in several military publications at once, all of them in one publication, they were quite young military magazines, military commentators, this in mainly it was the french, bulgarians, turks and americans, and the same message about this system, that is, about the khybars, firstly, for the french, it was about the caesars, for the bulgarians, it was about the rsv of british reversibility, and for the turks, too that is, in essence, we are dealing with a really planned operation with a planned range of news, because one weapon system, one time

of publication, one source, and one way or another. always for yours, for your professional opinions and comments that helped to understand the sometimes difficult questions for me, as well as for our viewers. ukrainian prisma politicians talked about a lot of interesting things, in particular, about the visit of the president of the united states to the middle east, well, but i was most interested in it, and i asked this as the first question , whether there is any reaction in the united states of america, even the removal of bakanov and venedikt from office. how did you see what mr. oleksandr said about the fact that even in the united states of america , even if they somehow understand it before bakanov, then before the removal of ms. venediktova, they have such strange feelings. they do not fully understand what this happened, well, it will be obvious that we on the

espresso tv channel will continue to monitor the development of such a well, very interesting, er , situation. the guest is oleksandr sherba, diplomatic ordinary and plenipotentiary envoy of the first class, extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine in austria 2014-202021. greetings, mr. oleksandr. good day. thank you for joining and thank you for agreeing to answer the questions i have for you have prepared well and to clarify uh, watch this this week, i'm starting with this one, although this week in uh, a new forum is planned in uh for us, look back

to rammstein ii. many experts said that rammstein 3 for us was, to put it mildly, not quite as we would have liked it, that is, the decisions made on it did not suit us very well, should we expect something breakthrough from rammstein 4 or it will be simple, over time, these breakthroughs will still be less or not, whether it is necessary or something, well, the main breakthrough happened when, uh, the head of the pentagon said that we are working for the victory of ukraine, uh, unfortunately, the german chancellor still says uh we are working so that russia does not win and there is such a fine line between these two a-a statements, but thank god that it is in the rammstein format . i would like it as it should be, but still they are moving in the direction of provision the weapons we need. first, these are javelins

that were fought for in the streets. we were told no, no, no, then they still said yes, and they completely turned the tide of the first phase of the war. now these mlrs systems are initially medium- range himers. now, i hope they will be long- range. no, at first naturally, then suddenly they appeared, and i hope that just like that, the jagulins broke the course of the war. on second at the stage of the war, in particular, with the liberation of the kherson region, that is, there will not be such an abatement of this aid, no, as an abatement, i see that the united states is not changing its course, perhaps

not from every rammstein we will receive something absolutely groundbreaking, but for us in principle, we don’t need something completely programmatic. we need something absolutely concrete. high-mars long-range uh-uh, the farther uh-uh they shoot, the better . is thinking about the fact that russia simply does not win, they will push to provide weapons with maximum range and maximum power, in principle, this is an american decision, i think even there it will be accepted. do you hope that they will be given to us? do you know that they will be given to us? oh, well, the circle of people who know is very limited here. unfortunately, i am a former diplomat, i do not

belong to this circle, but what i hear, in principle, gives reason to hope, well, that's good . okay because, you know, there are no former diplomats, diplomats are people with connections, and that's why i asked you this in connections that will help us, for example, to understand where and why better than someone else. there will be a statement by the president of france, emmanuel macron, and then a statement by the prime minister of hungary, viktor orbán, well, let's listen after that question. russia uses energy and food as means of waging war, so i think that today we need to prepare for the scenario according to which we will be forced to completely do without russian gas, and it seems to me that this is not a rhetorical scenario that to pass the peak loads in winter, we need to reduce consumption because we have to support other europeans