to build a point of defense and we realized that we must prepare that there might be a battle. here there were trenches everywhere, fighters were walking and it seemed that when they were next to us it was so calm because our guys were nearby and everything was fine, and then at night the battle began, they repelled it so we understood it later here in the morning there were a lot of dead bodies of equipment, everything here was terrible, even on youtube there is a video of this with these shots , they just stormed and all this is equipment that tried to us for a day and all these stormed all night until they ran and then the second battle began it was afternoon 4

march and it was such a terrible battle when they were already hitting right here and our neighbors still have such huge funnels left in the gardens there. our neighbors' house completely burned down and all around us also flew in. at that time, we were in the basement of four. that is, we were there spent the whole night from the third to the fourth and almost the whole day on march 4, our basement is not suitable for being there for a long time, of course we pulled all the blankets, pillows, uh, there we had two chairs with sacks of him, we went there too, and they us own hand they saved it because it is two by two by two. not even less, even less. there are 170 by 170 by 170 shelves on the sides, that is, for the children. normally, the children

even fell asleep. you had a husband and two children and a cat with you. i definitely ran away from here when we heard that our house had fallen. that is, it was him. we heard glass flying outside. if something was falling, it was such a terrible thing that we decided. i was almost sure that we did not have a roof or a wall or at home in general, that is, i am not i know, well, it was very loud and so direct, and our basement was shaking like that, and when there was the first babakh, and we heard it, i sat in the basement and said, well, that’s it. now we have to run away, and the children are like that oh, where? and we called our kumam in bucha and they say well, i say listen, we didn't sleep all night because there was a

battle, we are so tired, can we come to your place, maybe for a day or two, we'll just sleep, they'll fall asleep, of course, let's wait for you, everything's fine, come here, it's fine with us here we have our humanitarian headquarters and electricity, because we already have it then there was no electricity for four days, there was only thick water and that was it. and here we are, i mean all the people. they have to flee to bucha, to bucha, what do we need to do? we were right in the basement , under a flashlight, we wrote a list of what we needed to do in the house before we fled, but it was such a terrible battle what we realized that we won't have time to do any of that your world it shrinks to 10 minutes and you understand that your life is now 10 minutes between this and that babah and this babah and between them you live well and so, well, it's a horror, of course, because before that, we

planned their lives there for a month, for two, for six months already ahead, and here it is 10 minutes. that's all. your life is 10 minutes and one basement, not even a house , not even a house. gostomel, not even a basement, and 10 minutes, and that's why when it all flew by. well, once upon a time for 10-15 minutes. i felt as if this flight arrived somewhere in 10 seconds. although i did not hear it, for example , the children wanted to go to the toilet, and here they are, they are all back , and i start shouting faster, faster, back. the husband simply throws the child into the basement i catch her and like that there is dust around him like that and everything and he also falls and then he sat down like that he well, he was a little deaf then he sat like that, well he came to his senses and that's why you don't understand how much time you have, whether you have 10 minutes or 15 or 20 and when it was quiet even longer than 15 minutes, we heard

our neighbor calling us from outside because he was also in the basement and he came out. and he went to see how we were and if everything was okay with us at all voice we left and he says let's go there the glass factory at the glass factory is there a bomb shelter there well there would be a lot of people at that time said they went there and we yes yes yes let's go let's get together we uh in the hall we put the children we gave them clothes they said so you get dressed we went to gather things oh yes oh hurry hurry that is, we gathered things so quickly that my children then didn't have a single pair of uh, uh, uh, pairs of uh, socks, not a single one, so a whole collection of different socks, because that's what i did, and my husband didn't take anything for himself, neither underwear, nor socks. everything, that is, everything there is a tool

decorations everything is left at home, let's run like this to the exit, and we open the gate and see that well, it's just that what is shown is not what has changed . ah, there is such a pillar of fire because they hit a gas pipe, and there is also something smoking, something is whistling, something is burning , and there is such a roar from that pillar of fire , that is, it is very loud and there is no living person nearby, and we understand that we have to run across the street to get to the bomb shelter and at the same moment we we understand that we won't make it to the factory in the factory that is, we have to run across the intersection and we understand that we won't make it because we don't know because the intersection is visible and we are being shot at and we

understand that there will simply be four corpses and that's all and that's why we suddenly i even said sasha maybe i'll call the guys, maybe someone will cover us while we are and he 's all buzzing, he's guys, guys, and it's quiet, well , that means there's no one, and then we realize that we're now turning around and running along the fences to bucha, and we're unfolding. -is run like that, we crouched down and like that, run all of us and we ran ran ran then we turned around because of the movement of the village we let out a little breath the children say oh we want to drink and we are like this we didn't take anything well let's go then we are there through the townhouses the townhouses are burning all around smoke all around everything that is, we are just going to some kind of apocalypse and here we are at four. tasya is running and

crying. my mother says i want to drink. i am there. i am tired because my legs are still different there . vodichka and wi-fi cartoons, let's go let's just run and i kept telling the children that we are superheroes. imagine that we are like four superheroes and we are now there, we are going through everything, we will get out there. well, a little bit was enough, but then mom, i want to drink. we have already reached buchi. she was running around there. oh my god, sasha - they said that the forest was mined, he says wait , they are mining when they have had a long time, they haven't been here yet, calm down, there is still nothing here. i mean, really, i understand that i am already so terrified that i am already afraid of everything and we then we go along buchi and here are such townhouses and a man comes out and looks

at us, that is, bucha is so dead, silence, silence, the dog is barking and we are the four of us. we are going with backpacks. he is like this. where are we from? we are like this. we are with guests and we are like this. in the yard, they gave the little ones some lemonade, they gave us otaku for half a glass of water, they asked what was there, as they say. well, let's go. good luck to you. to whom are we there, to whom everything and we went and then the rest i only heard mom lemonade to us to us and when you give it to us when we get to a when we get there we will get there soon and maybe i won't share maybe you didn't it wasn't easier because the child didn't think that we had gone through something so terrible there that we were all there she thought she focused nationally this will be our lemonade i won't be with anyone he says, but it turned out that it was also dangerous in buch, and then you ran through irpin to kyiv and there, ah,

your photo seems to be a reuters correspondent, oh eye, the photos became super famous, they posted these photos, yes. when did you find out that you became, so to speak, a world-famous person we ran we told us as i run, i see people lying on the ground, the press with cameras, everything, and i'm still running, i think, hey, you've found your place, guys, well, that is, they are shooting above us, they say run faster, because you might get hit, write like this and not like that because something is flying there something is burning there there is smoke, something is blowing up, and we ran, everything was fine, we got on the bus there, and then we got to kyiv, we are already walking around the campus, and a girl from irpin writes to me on instagram and

says i saw you now, you said you ran to romanovke live broadcast, i saw you, how are you? i also survived live broadcast and we were in complete isolation for about a week, i called, we called, er, from the basement to my godmother and asked masha, what kind of news is there, tell me and we were lying in the basement on a loud speakerphone and masha read us the news, and then russian propaganda wrote and said live on the air that it was all the actors running and the curtains because they were somehow not dressed like that. it seems that this is our photo and that's all i was so angry, i had such an adrenaline rush, i was ready to just bite everyone, i

started to answer them what the fuck oh, and the sector, i'm writing this, i'm running we're running, it's dad, and then at some point i realized that there, well, it doesn't want to believe that that this is happening in reality, to believe or not is the same choice. well, their choice is not to believe, it's the actors, look at the clean sneakers the women have, but they were running purchases and everything else. well, i wore these sneakers for the second time in my life, i bought them before during the war, i wore it once with a dog. and this was the second time. yes and also i was wearing a red sports suit , first of all, because it is warm, and secondly, i realized that i needed to wear something so that i looked like a civilian, so that i would not be hit katya, tell me, you were not at home for a long time when you returned did they loot your workshop or not? you know. i don't know how it happened, but this is our square, and for some reason the orcs didn't like it. i understood that way. they looted

mostly either cottages and own houses, everything that is new or high-rise buildings where you can enter and walk around, give doors, yes and here i understand that they looked like this oh my god, some huts, something like that oh, well, that's it and that's how i understood that, well, hmm, the only ones with us were probably the sappers, because there were all the boxes there, you can see that the guys were checking everything, everything - everything when we returned to work when you started creating new jewelry again after your return well, in general, i started back in vinnytsia, but uh, they helped me a lot. our friends, jewelers from kyiv, they just gave me a tool there and asked me to somehow start there all-all-all and me too she started there, and when she came back, well, first i had to completely change the window in my

workshop, i had to patch holes in the roof there, because it had been raining recently, and i had some water coming from the ceiling in the workshop, and sasha then climbed up there and threw it to see if something was there i did this for a very, very long time. then i cleaned up the broken glass from the workshop. there were pieces of the wall that were blown away together with the window, that is, somewhere, i don’t know how long, maybe two or three weeks. almost every day, i cleaned it up little by little. made a change there and then she already started working again. it must have been the beginning of june or the middle of the day. you did it right here, well, after your return. oh, it must be sewing, katya. come on, show me and talk about these new decorations that you started making at the beginning

of the war. i'll show you this. this is my fresh one. this is sewing. crucian carp russian bloggers once decided to invent such a thing to insult ukrainians and they found a picture with the image of a half-fish, half-pig and called it a pig crucian carp well, it's like there's a pig with the german word for pig and they started shoving it at everyone in public, ukrainians saw a sewing crucian carp and said, " i mean, it's offensive. but he's cool, and they even started making memes about him, ah, he's just become a part of the ukrainian culture of sewing crucian carp, and i decided that of course i couldn't avoid bypassing this handsome man, and i did too. " it is in silver and people buy it, i even personally know one person who bought a sewing crucian carp. and what do you buy most often now

? puppy dog of course, here he is. look, and by the way, i’m subscribed to the patron’s dog on instagram and i sent him three pendants. yes, as a gift, yes, that is, the patron’s dog has such a patron himself. and i also started making pendants with different regions of our country, for example, here donetsk region, this is kharkiv, kharkiv region, they buy a lot of them, there are also kherson, mykolaiv, zaporizhzhia , of course, that is, those that are most likely to be received from and this, for example, will be a very symbolic piece - this is a collaboration with one

she is a craftswoman, she paints stones and she, um, makes products, well, they are very beautiful, and she has polymer clay and hand painting and that's all. and she has it and offered , i say let's do a collaboration with you, a pebble, i 'll make some kind of silver frame for it and we 'll sell it and the money, i don’t know, either come back alive or to the armed forces, or somewhere else, that is. no, i’m not going to have anything from this. well, i’m finishing it now, and then we ’ll sell it, and it will be the only one in the world for someone . there will be such a pendant, you are from donbas, like me, you are from donetska i'm from luhansk and what was your experience of being in the occupation at that time? i know that you actually became displaced people and came here. how did he a-a superimpose on what happened after february 24, 2022 a-a

actually, well, then i drew these parallels, the only thing i'm afraid of these are russian soldiers, but if i see that russian soldiers are already somewhere on my land, then i have to flee even when there was shelling, when the airport was shelled from irpen, we were at home and you understand that ours don't let them in, and you feel somehow calm about that, but when i saw this column vehicles that were going to kyiv, that then this column was shot by the guys, that's what was left near my house, that's all obukhov, that's when i was already scared because i saw that muscovites were on my land, and that's when i got so scared. and it was the same in donetsk

, that is while we were there in donetsk, we were waving flags . we were all like that, oh, oh, not seriously, and then when people started to appear with machine guns in camouflage and with a russian accent, then we realized that we had to run away now, and then we ran away. how do you think your children are easy ? survived what happened because these are terrible things and surely no one with experience, especially in childhood, should go through this. oh, you know, i understand that my children were given this. well, it is relatively easy because this situation is critical, it was quite short-lived, that is, the most critical days. well, that was here for two days, and then we ran to bucha, and their friends were there, and they were there for two days, just fighting and playing.

that is, they were let go, and then we ran away as two families. well, while we were running away, it was a little scary because there were also arrivals and corpses. civilians we ran crawling it was scary and hard because you have to run and the little child is five years old and it's hard for her to run her legs are small so it was like that but then when we got out of kyiv when we had already seen everything when we arrived to the apartment and the children just asked us, they say you are going to the store now, we are shopping well, buy us chips and here we brought them chips and there was wi-fi in the apartment and they here for a day probably just like that, they came to their senses , they were watching cartoons they were eating some there we bought them snacks and they ate a little bit at a time little by little, yes. well, we recovered, then what do you think? you have actually spent a lot of time on cleaning and

repairing your house and your workshop. we still see that the glass still needs to be replaced, and the children also see all this, which gives you optimism now to continue doing all this despite on the fact that the war continues and we don't even know for sure whether they won't climb there again from the north yes from belarus oh you know i do n't even know actually i may have some kind of faith in the armed forces ha ha ha what, that is, me and and well and there is a plus somehow i logically understand that before climbing from the north, they prepared for this for about six months , and now i understand that well, no one there, no one really prepares. they are preparing. you see, there is no one there. there is no such thing. we must now be afraid of the muscovites and their rockets

. now we have a different stage, that is, non-occupation, so destruction. well, we know that there are problems with those who returned and still want to receive some help from the state and in hostomeli also this one the situation is very acute. how do you deal with this? i'll tell you, we were told that there is still no siya in gostomel, which has er. no, that is, in fact, you now do everything with your own hands, with your own hands, yes, to donate a little, people, that's why we, yes, and that's why we were able. for example, to change the windows . thanks to the people who care about russian yes yes we

are helped i have a lot of friends there are a lot of subscribers i don't know there are just a lot of kind people who are there someone something op-o that is, after all, what can you say girl from the cover considering that this is not at all an entertaining photo, but it somehow helped you, i think so, because i, for example, recently , journalists from sam who interviewed us, they also wanted to help us somehow for restoration, not reconstruction, well, thank you ask, i saw the stickers you have here in the workshop, it says do brave things, what do you mean, what does this mean, do you understand, now is a time when you can't be a coward, you can't be afraid a-a

if it was before, well, like how is to say that it was upbringing yes, what type be quieter, be more modest, be everything, now you can’t be like that, now you have to be bolder and decorate more boldly to be and your expressions and your position and everything else, that is, to be a gray mouse now, well, not even i i know. we must be like ukraine. yes, thank you very much and i thank you unconquered cities of ukraine, this is a cozy and comfortable kharkiv, a city of students of science and industry, a city that, since those times, has repeatedly suffered tatar attacks

, passed both into the hands of the bolshevik invaders and would have given it to the german fascists, but kharkiv persevered and kept ukraine in its heart then and now kharkiv invincible, we are those who, side by side as brothers , beat the enemy in the teeth in the battles for the gostomel airfield, defended kyiv and kharkiv, held mariupol, those who imperceptibly destroy the invaders with a precise shot shoots down enemy planes and burns the tanks of the occupiers, we firmly hold the formation, we are your protection and security, ukraine, we are the national guard, someone takes life, someone gives it, and those who

save life, not sparing their own, angels in this war. in the sacred fire this is my story cool sweat and hot tears about a heart that remains a living ear that was born a free story of my earth a new destiny of an unbreakable country is waiting metal in my hands and in the bodies of my enemies in voices that promise us victory together we make this

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yuriy akimogaev p. yuriy i welcome you on the air of the national marathon. so, i would like to hear your opinion about why putin spares ethnic russians . soldiers are simply necessary material and are on the way to achieving their own crazy mestizo, well, i’m answering at once, it’s done for the second reason, uh , the first reason is that he doesn’t want to affect the russian society very much, especially moscow , the big city, but the main reason is not that, the main reason is the fact that the morale of the russian army is extremely low, and this is putin's main problem now, and he does not know what to

do with it will to victory, the morale remains very low in the russian army and there are even many ukrainians, and there are more and more people among them, the question arises in general : why do they fight and why do they fight, and we have a lot of evidence that many units refuse to go into battle, people become prisoners, and even some people, how did we come to the ukrainian side here, the following is very important so that ukraine begins to work seriously in this direction. i am publishing an article about this in america now. wars within the ukrainian army, of course, the initiative must be ukraine, it must be

a serious daily program that will leave information the truth about the war and the senselessness of this war inside the russian army is a serious task, it must be approached seriously from the point of view of the content of information from the point of view of delivery methods but this is a very important task, because the morale of the russian army is falling. i live in the wound of these losses. well, just pour salt on such accurate information, and you need to appeal to conscience and instinct, the very preservation of the russian soldiers, officers, simply tells them the facts so that they are likely to die