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it is possible to close the loopholes and secondary sanctions so that russia does not have the opportunity to circumvent the existing sanctions, so i think it is quite important to pay attention to the work that the united states is doing. it was demonstrated that there is an understanding that without the participation of asian countries, without the participation of those representatives, it will be very difficult for them not to join the sanctions pressure against russia. of course, it is necessary to understand that now, literally as soon as the cold will pass , now in europe there is an incredible heat, but this is a phenomenon of the past. and will be able to blackmail energy carriers, so it
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seems to me that the key thing for european countries today is to prepare for the diversification of energy supply routes with the help of various sources, and agreements are being made with azerbaijan. kazakhstan wants to enter the market more actively, and some african countries in order not to give putin the opportunity to blackmail the europeans, if they did not increase the sanctions pressure, if they did not weaken it. and as for the united states, there are no certain exceptions, i do not think that they are so significant that they can completely shake the architecture of the sanctions that introduced precisely in the united states against russia. thank you, mr. musienko. well, i would like to add important information that appeared in the bloomberg agency. the european union plans to reduce the use of gas by 15 percent. so, today the models will be presented
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an emergency plan to reduce the demand for gas in the coming month, yes, of course. and we must take into account that such gas blackmail will directly affect putin's military plans. yes, we understand that gas and military tools will be used in parallel, nevertheless, in addition to this the news is written by reuters vladimir putin's statements after the launch of the nord stream one, the volume of gas pumping may decrease, as it were, due to slow progress in servicing the equipment and if canada and germany did not try to create mechanisms for in order to bypass the sanctions, hand over the turbine and knock out of putin's hands the argument that, excuse me, you yourself do not repair the necessary things, so we will not pump the northern stream alone, after all, we see that the führer is playing absolutely his own game, and perhaps we are talking
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about the prospects of launching the northern stream-2 is somewhere in his sick head, sir, have a word. well , first of all, i would like to add to the previous topic in a broader context, about the cancellation or non -inclusion in the sanctions of those banks that serve agricultural russian enterprises and in particular, with regard to the good uh, you know. well, from the very beginning, the sanctions that were introduced in the 14th year had several such important points, the first is to change putin's position or behavior, and we see that it has not changed here in this sense, we can say that the sanctions did not work, but it is certain that putin understands why they are being imposed further, this is what it would be like not to harm the russians, but to harm the immediate environment.
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for the russians, the third moment was extremely important , so that the sanctions would not harm the countries that impose them. and this is where they invest, this is what we are talking about the siemens turbine, if we are talking about russian fertilizers since the beginning of the year, 48.5% growth was on the the price of grain, and this means not only for europeans, uh, more and will have to pay for bread , but also definitely for the countries that are most vulnerable to this, i mean the so-called third world countries or those that are developing, and definitely that this will destabilize the situation and what actually putin needs to talk about hunger as such, because 50 million starving people will be added, and this can generate a large number of refugees to european countries and destabilize the political situation.
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bypasses certain companies, e-e, inclusion in the sanctions list, but on the other hand, look at how second it is to the russian narrative from the very beginning. neither russian grain, nor russian fertilizers were on the sanctions lists. despite this, e-e, half of the north africans in the middle east believe in russian propaganda that the sanctions imposed on russia are actually the cause of the food crisis in the world, and i want to remind you that a month ago there was a siniga president in moscow and he is already the head of the european union. oh, i apologize to the european african union . flew not to kyiv to negotiate how to unblock our ports on the black sea, but to paris in order to convince macron to cancel sanctions against the russian federation so that they would not supply food is sent to african countries, and
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therefore, when these sanctions against russian banks are lifted, they simply confirm that the western sanctions are actually the cause of this food crisis, although this is absolutely not true, it is a distortion, and it is also if we are talking about energy sanctions. by the way, yesterday there were such headlines in the german media about what, uh, it means that if there is such torture in relation to uh, it means german citizens, this is the government's decision to reduce the temperature in the rooms up to 70 degrees, you know. well, i understand that the germans, who are used to living in comfort, will find it absolutely difficult to survive and they will put pressure on their government, and this is the reason and this is the most important tool through which putin wants to get rid of us of the support of our western partners, since they will be pressured on the governments of these government numbers, i agree with you, this will be
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an instrument of pressure on the governments from the other side, knowing the german mentality and german thrift and generally awe-inspiring attitude towards consumption energy calories, i can say that the germans do not heat their houses, and how do the ukrainians do it? well, no. unconsciously , very often this is how certain of our teploenergo work, so in certain areas of large cities, that is, the germans save and 18 degrees, you will not surprise them, an important point when talking about grain negotiations, mr. musienko, for the direct speech of putin , i would ask you to comment. well, i have a bad mouth now, so to speak, with his quote, we will facilitate the export of ukrainian grain, but we assume that all restrictions are related to supply of russian grain will be withdrawn, no one has objected so far, including the american
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partners, putin said, that is, as far as i understand, in principle, this can be about him at a certain stage , they will use this grain taran , so it is in the minds of the masses in their interests, in order to gradually not just escape from the sanctions, but also try to somehow restore a certain negotiation process that became impossible as a result of russian war crimes against our civilian population p. musienko well, you know in general this is a somewhat strange situation, i have my own position on this issue. i believe that ukraine bears obligations in the context of the general unblocking of ukrainian ports, because this is our problem, first of all, when russia is waging war against us and carries out one of the elements of acts of aggression and the waging of this war is the blocking of normal
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means of communication, i.e. normal commercial shipping, according to how it is possible to unblock and stop the act of greece really only by stopping it by military means on and the second is well, to provide independent forces, that is, to provide patrolling or the waters of the black sea , to provide weapons and corresponding anti-ship missile forces and other means so that ukraine has the opportunity to do this partially, only partially, this issue is solved due to the fact that we are really our partners against ship missiles , e.e. harpoon and french systems and others, and on the other hand, let's look at this issue , for some reason it turned out that it is almost an obligation of ukraine now to supply to foreign countries foreign exchange markets sorry, everyone knows that in international law and in the law of contracts there is such a question and concept
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as force majeure and these risks are insured by the relevant companies, yes, force majeure arose as a result of the fact that russia started a war against ukraine, respectively, the key is already to the african union and to the mentioned president of senegal, whom mr. alexander mentioned very well, because it is important because when they go to russia to negotiate when egypt takes an incomprehensible position, the same senegal, many other states that begin to blame ukraine with such approaches. i'm sorry, what can we refuse, what kind of unblocking of the market, if the african union or other countries came to the un and took the initiative to create an international coalition in order to guarantee the safety of shipping and trade routes from ukraine from the black sea to where this grain is supplied the mentioned egypt, zhebutti, somalia, other countries, then
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it would be understandable. but for some reason, they are trying to blame ukraine for this, which is fundamentally wrong, and the most important thing is that it will not be security is guaranteed until there are commitments to turkey or bulgaria or romania or to take them all together or with the help of other mechanisms that will mean not just a coordination center in istanbul where there will be un representatives, but will mean that there will be ships here that will help carry out patrols until we speak the safety of the supply of such grain is not proven, ukraine is definitely not interested in, say, provocations of a food crisis in the world, it is making every effort to prevent this, and the grain, by the way, now is trying to import in different ways. of course, these are not the volumes. i understand, but still, i'm sorry , but you still need to speak up and wait for a greater reaction and maybe a word of guarantee - this is an extremely important element because you can
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remember how many dollars it has already been signed with by the russian federation, all those treaties turned out to be absolutely worthless. well, accordingly, the same applies to the guarantees, but no matter how it happens that those guarantees are once again destroyed by russia in its favorite way on the move with the help of military provocations and missile attacks in the demined water area of the odesa port, mr. kharkar, i would like to say about two such points, first of all, again , returning to the topic of all sanctions against russia, it is not beneficial for ukraine to open its own ports and began to sell grain in order to exert this pressure and undermine support for the west. that is, this is a strategic goal, but there is also a tactical one that can outweigh it.
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that everything is calm in odesa and that means grain is being loaded there, but there are hostilities in other neighboring regions and somehow these trucks with grain must be moving under hailstorms under missiles. and other things, and that's why this truce will be such a big easter, it can be similar to minsk 3, because of course any violation of the truce will be harshly criticized and ukraine will be like a weak partner. definitely get hit more than anything, secondly, you know how we will remember these agreements in minsk again when , well, they shot a little with small arms and mortars there, let's not consider it such a brutal and powerful violation of the cease-
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fire regime. let's continue to export grain there, and actually for what does russia need in order to have this operational pavel pause in order to strengthen its invasion forces, primarily in the south, where we are now disposing of them, so that there is time for this hidden mobilization and to teach new women, threaten to give them weapons so that they come to us to kill and actually, that's why it's a trap if we agree to such conditions and a ceasefire in general, and i think that now, despite the difficult situation, the advantage is still on our side i mean operational. and that's actually why i wish we didn't make the mistake of minsk 3, so that we can actually say that these advantages that our military now had, they were unenforced. thank you very much for this. this is a serious warning.
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oleksandra hara, an expert on foreign and security policy at the center for defense strategies, and oleksandr musienko, director of the center for military legal studies, with whom we discussed the prospects for the fourth rammstein , the consequences of putin's visit to tehran, the statements he made, and his relations with turkey, as well as ours in fact, here i will give a little information. the united states has information about russia's preparation for the annexation of additional territories of ukraine, in particular the donetsk luhansk part of the kherson zaporizhzhia region, and warns that they will react on this step in moscow a-a says about it the coordinator advises on the national security of the us and strategic communications john kirby that in return they promise to impose additional sanctions on russia, she will become an even bigger rogue than now we will never recognize any annexed by russia teresia extremely important message in the midst of information - analytical marathon of the espresso tv channel on 15.10, we are now
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adding to our marathon artem chigoz, people's deputy of ukraine, member of the temporary investigative commission of the verkhovna rada on issues of monitoring the acquisition and use of weapons provided to ukraine will contact us. i would like to add that this is a temporary special commission . as i understand the verkhovna rada, there is still a little difference in format from the investigative commission, but a little . from different factions of the ukrainian parliament and interesting groups, this commission was created not even on the initiative of the ukrainian parliamentarians themselves, who were influenced by the readings of the spartacs, or maybe parliamentarians from other countries, but the thesis of andriy yermak, who proposed to form i don't quite understand such a commission. there
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is still logic here, that is, the head of the office of the president of ukraine can offer the parliament some options and the implementation of some decisions. well , the parliament reacts. less, however, this commission will exist and will monitor. is it used legally at all? and the help provided by our partners from the other side, and why do the deputies say that analysts say they should probably do this well, somewhere, er, representatives of the ministry of defense talk about them, departments of our partners, somewhere maybe even diplomats, but for now we gathered at the parliamentarians, now we are looking at a little bit of akhtem or his visit of the people's deputy who is a member of this commission selya maleikum akhtem yes, it is a joy that you are working on the air of the espresso tv channel. to bring everything, so
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to speak, to the e-e arrangement of points above and so that our american partners did not have any questions will the strength of your commission be sufficient because we understand the ukrainian experience of various temporary investigative commissions testifies to unfortunately, well, it is not possible to get to the depths very often, well, first of all, i want to say that in the spring, you are right to say this . friend, colleague, peace is growing, and in order for there to be no such issues, first of all, it is necessary to restore the trust of transparency as much as possible . but i know for sure that some issues that concern
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society and our partners, we will work on it. the functionality of this temporary of the special commission, i would like to emphasize once again that this is an accounting , that is, you will count how much was received and what was received. how and where it is sent to report to the american colleagues, in particular. will it be? i do not know the proceedings of some individual cases . i.e. how exactly will this special commission work, but i don’t know what the reporting is for, but the presence of experts in these areas from the general staff and the change in the defense of our partners, for example, i consider it the work of this commission is very important. and all the other
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questions in the circle of which we will definitely ask these questions and cooperate with our military, you yourself now listed them there between the russian well, for example, i still have some questions which are very often found and put ours in our society and this applies and why in general we have such problems in recent years with such necessary weapons that we made ourselves. that is, there is such a wide spectrum, and the basis is trust, trust in us, the party trust - this is the basis, but now we have certain restrictions
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related to the martial law. well, accordingly, for example, you, as members of this commission, will turn to one or another structure of ours. yes, they will tell you, dear people's deputies. sorry, we will keep this secret quiet. we report there, i.e. are there any tools and, in general, is there an understanding, for example, on the part of the president's office that this process should be dynamic , transparent and understandable, first of all, not even in ukrainian, but primarily by our american donor, so because ukrainian society has its opinion well, we understand that there is a certain consensus on issues of trust, so american bureaucrats, accountants demand clear control and accounting, so will you have the tools to, so to speak, shake out real information about the role of the president's office because it is a
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parliamentary commission and despite that that there is a majority of the monomajority of the monomajority of the tautology yes, but i think that trust in our military is the main thing that we will have to prove to our partners and i think that in this matter we will it is quite monolithic in principle. and these questions that are asked by our partners are about that, of course, our partner, who is from the republican party of america . they started it's unacceptable, it's unacceptable
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to behave like that, and the issues she voiced are very important for our society and they exist in our society too, but i'll say it again, it's not the first time i've been in such a situation, when it's necessary to... to be in the fields i looked at the warehouse yesterday of this commission well, it is clear that some quota principle and a large number of representatives from the servant of the people probably also worked here. well, you are all people's deputies of ukraine, and someone is satisfied with the results of their work, society is more satisfied, some is satisfied less, nevertheless, you are all representatives of the legislative branch our representatives of the legislative branch of government, but we
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also understand that the ukrainian parliament and its subjectivity in recent years as a separate branch of government well, unfortunately, such a question was doubtful and ah in the end, the creation of this temporary special commission on the basis of parliamentarians, and to what extent can our international partners trust it, or will they not, for example, perceive the ukrainian parliament at the slightest suspicion as just a cover that covers the possibility of abuse or something else? after all, you emphasized the importance of trust, but uh , the principle of work itself is also important here, so uh, i'll tell you some questions already, uh, i've discussed them, but i can't say anything yet, but probably what you are now
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they said, they are in the first place, yes, that is, we will have to prove that our principles and our work as parliamentarians will be principled and persistent. i also wanted to ask you about kulinich , who was detained by sbu employees - he is the former head of the main directorate of the sbu in the autonomous republic of crimea. i think that the kremlin is extremely well informed about his activities. what
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can you say about which character ? this region constantly in recent years, i myself went there a lot and shouted about it not only i, i was the voice of our citizens in the crimea, who persistently pointed out every day that the threat is very great to the captured kherson region, and i think that we do not need such people as snipers like kolinevych, they, nobody, they clearly carried out such a group of group actions, you understand, and so who thinks that there they showed us koliniche, and that's all
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he is very wrong. activities and criminal groups have been created in recent years in these industries, which are primarily responsible and are subordinated primarily to the level of the president of ukraine, and the president must now be shown that he is going to the end because it concerns millions of lives. do you understand this not only some kind of tactical tactical some kind of mistake today, millions of our citizens found themselves under
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occupation in such a cruel way that we went through it in crimea, well, we know that these are arrests - this is rape - this is uh, how are there people uh, invisible where are they in general, that is, they protect them, kill them, and we go through it, plan the topic, it is very important for us to see the last such decisive steps in this direction, a people's deputy of ukraine, a member of the temporary special commission of the verkhovna rada on issues of monitoring the acquisition and use of weapons , is watching provided to ukraine by international partners during the martial law, a few moments of pause and news on espresso about
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