how long do you think the partners will support such efforts mr. mili please tell me what is your military assessment of what is currently happening in donbas. donbass is already completely lost. thank you lida for your question, first of all, stability consists of continuity - this is the key issue of any military operation, it is very important, i learned, we are not talking about the fact that only some part is needed transfer the equipment, we understand that it is necessary to provide all spare parts plus shells plus the necessary equipment for the restoration of this or that military installation eh on the second there is also a

second level of technical support which is important, that is, in fact, it is a comprehensive eh approach in that it is necessary for weapons was properly used and that the parts were replaced with new spare parts, we discussed with our partners and allies, and in particular the needs of ukraine at this stage, we know that due to the fact that there are several it is important that ukrainians have good training in how to carry out the technical replacement of this or that part, therefore training continues in different locations. we also tried to increase our visibility of our efforts , which is the standing status of other spare parts we could predict what it will

be like, what parts will be in demand in the near future, that's why continuity is extremely important, and that's why i give a standing ovation to the ukrainians who very quickly learn to use it and maintain its working capacity installations that they received, they fight perfectly on the field, because on the battlefield, but how active are they, they are troops outside the country and training abroad, for example, at the installations of the gaimarstva of others , that's why we say that we will continue to focus on continuity because it is it is very important to talk about how long our partners will provide support to ukraine,

i can say that there is no such question, we know that it will be difficult and we will do everything to support and provide everything we can, so i under- under today, i will repeat myself, i already said at the meeting that our people are obliged to provide the help that ukraine needs so that ukraine has all that it needs is this, it is impressive, we see that such unity was spontaneous and such cooperation between the border on cooperation, it was wonderful initiative, and now it only supports and encourages us to further efforts, we will not lose sight of this very stability and without excessive whiteness. on

february 24, the invasion began. on april 6, it decided to defeat its goals and withdrew its troops from kyiv and other regions and concentrated its efforts on donbas, that's why you see that russia has massively withdrawn troops to this region, because of russia, ukraine has conducted excellent tactical operations in order to secure its military and the civilian population , because after 90 days of russian aggressive actions. they advanced about 15 km, which is not so much. they suffered a lot of losses, both the russians and the ukrainians suffered a lot of destruction. cities and villages were destroyed. they captured some part of the earth, but it was

not the entire territory of ukraine, as they wanted. ukraine now it is clearly developing ukraine has conducted a clear operation to withdraw troops from north donetsk also the ukrainians continue to operate with dignity the russians are now facing a challenge er they cannot advance they were stopped by the ukrainian traditional troops therefore the ukrainians have a clearly established defense system so we emphasize that in fact there is not so much land er captured on the territory of donbas er rice ukraine keeps the defense in the ukrainians are trying to

make the russians pay for every centimeter of land they er captured a very big very big price this war is a kind of protracted war and no one won from it, in particular russia, so the ukrainians will continue to fight without liberating their territory. the minister of foreign affairs said that the special urban operation, as they call it, will not stop only in the territory of donbas, but will move to other territories of ukraine, in particular he spoke about the merse grove. after all, we are all talking about gamers today. he spoke about how these systems can provoke, can provoke some attacks inside russian territory. and also

when we talk about the military needs of ukraine, many experts have already talked about the fact that ukraine needs dozens of such systems, as much as possible to provide more to ukraine, as well as what will be the potential training here in america of ukrainian soldiers. thank you for the question, i am sure that the leadership of the ukrainian armed forces was very pleased to hear them lavrov's comment, however, is not only about the fact that there are systems in ukraine, but also about how the russians operate them. now they do not understand who they are

talking to. it is not a surprise for them and not for anyone. it is not a surprise to us what they are saying now and who they are addressing. they are addressing only the ukrainian people. i have already said, er, about putin, he has already said several times about this that this is a limited operation focused on the donbas, yes, it is justified and the like, but we know and our partners know what his imperial ambitions are and lavrov today only confirmed all this. it was not a surprise for us, christ is watching, but it was not a surprise for anyone, we see that it continues to be reflected

a full-scale battle, and therefore various defensive maneuvers are used both by ukraine and by russia , the ukrainians are actively engaging, but artillery long-range conditions for that eh with a diameter of 155 weapons for ukraine so that ukraine could also switch from long-range shelling to closer ukrainians clearly and they operate very well with the available resources, they have extremely excellent gunners and they deliver very targeted strikes. today we provided them with additional long-range systems, we know that great britain and other countries do not use such systems by the

russians, they are used very effectively to destroy the enemy, these are large and accurate systems, and how effective the ukrainians use ammunition, we look in detail and observe everything that is happening . and now we see that they are currently enough. we also see how the production of additional spare parts and e-equipment takes place, and we also we are focusing on the provision of ammunition, we are looking at all of them, we are considering all possible

options for the training of ukrainian soldiers, we are considering everything, and we are trying to understand how we will continue the training of ukrainian soldiers, what is your assessment of the fact that putin attended the conference in tehran, what do you think will iran be more involved in the conflict on the side of russia if you evaluate such a role of other countries in the conflicts with regard to the long-term perspective, or will it be appropriate to provide such support to ukraine in relation to the training of the russian protracted war or

will it continue or do you think or do you have any fears that russia may return to the territory of ukraine, in particular , once again in kyiv, or return to kyiv or other cities of ukraine in the event of a serious escalation of the conflict? do you think they have any deeper plans for ukraine thank you, are there rams or juventa questing regarding iran's support for russia, then i want to say that we cannot advise them to do it or not to do it, but for us it is a very bad idea and that is why i will stop there and stop the answer to the question about the training of ukrainian soldiers in

within the framework of pilot training and the like, we will continue to look at what ukraine needs right now, right now we are focused on providing them with e-e support so that they are successful on the battlefield, we provide them with weapons systems, what they need, what they need in order to achieve their victories. we will provide them with more modern er progressive systems, it will be important for them to use these systems correctly so that they integrate these systems within the framework of all the weapons they have on the battlefield, it all starts with change they already use dynamics on the battlefield and the gamer and others, you see that they are

using the gamer to destroy the enemy's ammunition depots and the like. there is still a lot of work ahead, we are not definitely the gamer . the strength of the ukrainians to hold on and win back the most important thing is that our allies also provide everything they can, we look in all directions and to understand what we can still provide to ukraine, in particular pilot training so so so different support, i will say that the ukrainians still have good air support and air potential, considering that it is difficult to say when talking about the intentions of the russians, because i will not comment on anything

. what could happen in the future, because if we look at how aggressive they were in in the past, and now they have actually stopped such aggression, but what if they have any specific objectives , unfortunately, i cannot comment on this, when we are talking about some kind of repeated escalation in the north of ukraine, i can say that the enemy can resort to any serious plans of action in particular this could be we can all see what they have done in the near uh-uh past of course there is a possibility that they may come back come back but unfortunately we don't know for sure every day we are monitoring the situation for any signs of escalation

and increasing efforts, in particular, on the territory of belarus, which creates an additional threat to ukraine, but what is most likely is that i want to say that now it is possible to have some discussions and debates, but there are clear fears about a protracted war in donbas until there is a breakthrough on the part of ukraine's sto, i don't think that russia will make any breakthrough, that's why they will try to wage this protracted war in order to somehow see another way out of such a situation that has developed, we are also looking at the details that are revealed. can you comment about the situation with the involvement of iran, he did not want to go into details. but maybe there are some reasons to

be afraid that iran is involved. why can't they just do what they need? it's a matter of politics, i won't discuss what is outside it is beyond my competence, for me it is also considered inappropriate, a bad idea and the fact that iran will help ukraine now, but we will see what we can do. so you are sending 16 guy of the dead to ukraine, you said that you will send even more, or do you know roughly what the number will be of such systems, the general said that ammunition for gamers is also very important. after all, it is possible to need more powerful ammunition that will

hit even further. paying attention to ukraine just such long-range munitions 80 km this is quite a long range and a long range, you see what they already allow the ukrainians to do on the battlefield eh of course they want to achieve further goals and now, at this moment, they are achieving significant success focation 12 installations yes, add four and together it

will be 16. that is, it is not an additional 16, it is 16 together . we provide them with such power as they need, we can provide defense systems, this is one issue, but other issues remain, training must be taught to the military so that they use them correctly, they are very modern systems, they are very accurate, and therefore it is very important to use them correctly, to integrate them correctly in a series with other systems that are currently on the battlefield. therefore, it is very important. of course, i will not be able to talk now about

any specific amount of equipment that will be provided in the future, but we will continue be warned about what their demands and needs are, and you do not want to provide them with ammunition that will be given further, in particular, through the crimean bridge. and what is currently on the territory of ukraine gives them the power they need, then we will see how the situation on the field will unfold battle and we will make appropriate decisions there is a difference in volume and also in accuracy when we talk about ammunition they definitely need it now gamer systems gamers give them the success they need thank you all for

participating in the rammstein format meeting 3 mr. lloyd austin and mark milli, the minister of defense and the chief of the joint chiefs of staff of the united states of america, and mr. sergiya, there are a few words for you to summarize, well, about the crimean bridge, for now , we will see, they said. unfortunately, but in general, the press is actually quite positive - a conference of the minister of defense and the head of the exchange committee of the chiefs of staff of the united states because three main trends were recorded there, that is, aid will be a constant evaluation of the activities of our units that use foreign aid is high and that there is an assessment of the constant needs of the armed forces and

the leadership of the american army, we see that they follow in sufficient detail what is happening on the battlefield and understand the needs of the ukrainian army directly . on the battlefield and we can see that the mili are focusing in detail on what is happening here in the donbass in other regions, that is, we are fighting with the enemy regarding the amount of aid. yes, we expected a little more, but we will have it today 16 heimers plus 9 mlrs that britain, germany, and the netherlands have to transfer there. they will probably arrive a little later, but the efficiency of using each launcher is already high enough, we see that milli is talking first of all about taking care of logistics, preparation, repair

, and application, that is, until this whole package the issues will not be resolved, the increase in samples will not happen, something that is completely logical. moreover , even for the american army, hymers are considered the most complex system from the point of view ensuring logistics, it quickly shoots all the ammunition that is supplied there, and precisely this process of speed requires no less a flexible support system. and actually this is what is a serious enough challenge for any army and for the american army, of course, for the ukrainian one, which will use and uses these systems but it is interesting that what was said was the phrase that we will transfer more modern weapons, we will see what it is about and it is possible, let's say such a decision that really affects the course of hostilities, but in general i think that according to the results of the rammstein meeting, we will see an increase in the number of yar-systems and heimers , we already know the number and ammunition for them and other means of impression that will really affect the

course of the hostilities, what can be said? are ready to transmit attacks at a range of up to 300 km, it is known that this is only a matter of time and i think the situation will change in the future, we still have literally 7 minutes, mr. sergey, and we were thinking about whether or not to talk to me tomorrow when that bridge may already fall, but in there are us time, i would still like to be told about this strategically important antonov bridge, because russians only know the antonov bridge by bunin, and the truth is that knowing the antonov bridge means the strategic importance of this bridge, what stage of destruction it is in, why it is being destroyed , and the third what kind of situation can the russians get into , as they are now panicking their public because the destruction of this bridge actually endangers the destruction of large groups of troops of the russian federation, let's talk about the antonov bridge, of course against the background of the general support of the united states

from the point of view of armaments of other means, the actual realization of the capabilities of foreign weapons on the example of the hai mersiv was precisely and shown on the example of the matoniv bridge where yesterday there were four strikes, today there seem to be about a dozen strikes on this bridge and just here is the video that is being shown there to 200 russian journalists and he is walking on this bridge and talking about the fact that for the second day in a row the army of the armed forces is shooting at the antonov bridge today, new holes appeared here, here is a hole , here is two holes, he is counting them there, he says that there are a lot of uh holes appeared in the uh surface how does traffic move and it will probably be necessary to block the movement of road traffic actually uh- on the one hand, this already confirms the possibility of the accuracy of hitting heimersty, it is known that this is precisely

carried out by non-standard missiles there, the m-31a, which has a warhead weight of 90 kg, it is certainly not enough to completely destroy the bridge, but we can see what damage it causes along the e the strategic importance of this bridge is that there are actually only three routes, namely the antonov bridge by road and the antonov railway bridge, which is located there at a distance of 6 km from kherson . in the dnipro there are about 15,000 russian soldiers who understand exactly this, this is a clear warning to the russian invaders that they have time to demonstrate a gesture of goodwill and quickly to leave the kherson region, if that is the case even in the case of further actions, when these bridges are destroyed,

then the surrounding area will be trapped, and then we will swim there or not influence, we will have to quickly save our bodies and souls by fleeing from ukrainian land. i think that just the next kherson will be one of the directions of actions of the ukrainian army already in the near future, although the general staff is not directly interested in talking about the fact that we are conducting such an offensive operation, because it is more important and correct for them to get results and then the results will be shown to the society, but i repeat today’s statement by the secretary, because danilova and reznikov’s previous statement say that ukraine is interested, having received the corresponding foreign aid, to prepare the re, but they are actually already prepared, really, not to drag out the combat operations of the athlete in the winter campaign, that’s what putin wants but really to conduct several offensive ko-kota offensive companies that are really in our territory and create completely different

political conditions for conducting some kind of negotiations although i understand what to negotiate with putin has no idea what all our negotiations are about on the battlefield and just abroad for help helps us to get the positions that we will consider victorious. that's what i wanted to add to what serhii says. and if this antonov bridge falls like this well, besides the fact that we see these destructions , you know and we see cars driving on this bridge, it is not a fact that heavy equipment will pass there, it is not a fact that a lot of heavy equipment will come there, and we understand that the enemy will take away from there not only stolen refrigerators and laundries cars he will take away tanks, armored personnel carriers, bmps , artillery installations, self-propelled artillery installations, many other things. therefore, this bridge may fall somewhere, well, that is, if it all goes along it. and what are the other options? well, let's say the bridge is not there. this bank of the dnieper, in my opinion, there is another

bridge somewhere, but in fact, to be honest, i did not think that we would carry out strikes on the antonine bridge , because in fact this is the path that we need to move to the left bank, but from the view on the fact that in any case this bridge would be destroyed because in the event that the enemy escaped from the right bank of the dnieper, he would then go to the left bank and make an effort to blow up this bridge so that in any case this bridge conditionally speaking, doomed in view of the e-e strategy of hostilities either from the ukrainian side or from the russian side, under the condition that the bridges are blown up, pontoon crossings can be carried out there, but this is already a sufficiently complicated way to evacuate the personnel who are currently with the enemy on the right bank, so i think that the enemy understands all these risks and i think that it is necessary to demonstrate in advance the desire of good will to leave our territory, in any case, we must understand that, let's say, the encirclement of a large group

of troops. i don't know what it is about now the number of people in the conditions, the number is 15,000, 15,000, by the way, i also heard about this figure, because mr. serhiy told me that first you can bargain here. well, that means everyone leave from there or well, children, our conditions will be destroyed, of course, ukrainians who are not freed without armed forces, but in the course of the fighting you can shell and so on and so on, and on the other hand, i perfectly understand that the other side of the kherson region is not only through the antoniv bridge. it is also possible to enter the zaporizhzhia region and from the odesa region today, according to the plan, an analysis of the possible ukraine's offensive on the kherson zaporizhzhya region based on the assessments of polish analysts is quite interesting. i think that literally in a day we will return to this plan. sergey , thank you very much. we will definitely talk about it. serhiy zgurets, the host of the wine summary of the day column and the director of defense express, was with us and commented on everything that we asked of him, and in a

minute we will return to the air again and continue