tv [untitled] July 20, 2022 10:30pm-11:01pm EEST
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these are inventive people rainmakers are quite versatile people they can be anything we invent we create highly maneuverable high-speed buggies that can go anywhere we make it work very comfortably sleeping somewhere in a trench is not our victory inventors here is our front some creatures are surprised by the toilet in the house and we are from ukraine we can insure a car even if you are in the toilet hotline finance insurance of course online greetings dear tv viewers my name is vasyl zima, this is a worldview program and today we will talk with a guest about the most relevant topics
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which are of interest to all of us, we will try to find out what is going on well, actually, we invited ilya ponomarev, a russian opposition politician as a member of the state houses of the russian federation, to the conversation panel i congratulate you i understand that you have already learned ukrainian very well so we will communicate in ukrainian so not so well well, i hope that later on our our ether we will somehow improve your ukrainian a-ah well that’s it i was joking and i prepared very important questions that mostly relate to russian realities because russia today is the aggressor country of russia is the country that will wage war against ukraine therefore it is important for us to understand what is happening inside the walls of the kremlin, what is happening and whether it is good for us or bad for us, but i cannot help but start with something right now in ukraine literally in these minutes, certain political processes are taking place, in particular, they have already dismissed bakanov, the ex-head of the
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security service of ukraine, by the decision of the deputies of the verkhovna rada of ukraine. well, where else is the question of the prosecutor general, there are also a lot of nuances related to this, but in any in any case the president is now changing and changing people in social networks, not only in social networks, but also in e-e vets, guest contributors, activists, public opinion leaders, politicians say that this is how it is seen here that some kind of usurpation of power by the president is seen, and in general there are fears that what we have now in the president's office , a new putin may be created in the future, or something like that, firstly, a ban on certain tv channels from appearing on the air on two platforms , now in fact the subordination of the power bloc to one person, we will not name this person, and are you do you see something similar to the process that happened with putin's coming to power, or is it in vain that certain people in ukraine are afraid that such things cannot happen a priori, please? well, i think that earlier i should have thought about it because now there is a
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war and everything that the head is doing he is doing in the country correctly according to the definition because because the war and when it ends then we will decide and we have a lot of examples in history when the citizens of the country changed the government after the war ended well, there is the best prime minister - this is mr. churchill who was changed at the same time as the potsdam conference in july 1945. so i think that it is not out of time to talk about it now. well, if we talk about it at all, i think that the level freedom and anarchy of the ukrainian society that exists in us, it is the
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best guarantee that no usurpation of power will take place, let's deal with it, let's talk now, let's move to russia , because there are events happening there, i don't know if they are true. fsb, but we will discuss them, because they are again, uh, launched into the network, launched into the information space , so we can say that somewhere there is uh, somewhere there is reason to say that this could have been the first - this is a possible poisoning of patroshev by patroshe, the secretary of the radbe with of the russian federation, so the information appeared in the telegram that, allegedly, when he came home after work, he felt sick and his security took him to the hospital, there were certain manipulations with him. well, according to the doctors, they tried to poison him there is some there was a certain synthetic poison that reached his body through the skin. and here is the question: who could it
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be, or is there really a struggle going on in the kremlin now to take putin's place and here already? acceptable, and this is the tradition of the chinggisids , which has lived in the kremlin until now, to poison someone , to strangle them, and to occupy the throne of the khan himself, is she alive, have you found some confirmation of this information, or can this be considered a certain omission, please, well, there is also a war going on there, and there are also people there they already live under different laws. well, they tell all citizens that now there is only some kind of special operation, but this is a war, and in the war they kill and kill even at the top of the russian government, but i also heard this rumor about poisoning, uh, i think that mr. petrusheva
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was ill, uh, we can admit that it was, and whether it was poisoning or not. well, i have very big doubts that it was poisoning, because mr. patron shufurieta is a person in his position must organize them and uh, who else can poison him, that is he belongs to a very influential clan in the kremlin, which combines er and patrush er and cheyka and kirienka er and yuri kovalchuk's clan and er how can not even the game be responsible for this because tree are subordinate to mr. shoigu, who belongs to the same clan, so i have very strong doubts that it was
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poisoning. and what do you think, in general, that the struggle for putin's place is not a struggle that was not blessed by putin himself, it is possible and can it be allowed today that putin doesn't have ears everywhere, he doesn't have eyes everywhere he just might have gotten tired of many other tasks or removed himself from certain processes and there really could be such a struggle as everyone in stalin, and when they actually say that he was killed there, it means that they proved it or proved it, well, in any case, he died unexpectedly, very strange under the circumstances , they did not give him help, that is, it is all very strange, that is why people who were afraid of stalin to the point of hiccups, so to speak, they still decided to remove him, because at least they did not help him. let's put it this way, can we assume that now putin is all indeed, such a struggle behind his back , a struggle about which he knows little can be happening, well, putin has been tired for a long time and he has repeatedly said about it himself eh and he said that
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now he will have so much competition in gandhi, he can talk to no one else and well, he can to be with yuriy kovalchuk, but he only talked about makhatnulas and eh, that is, he is just afraid now to go somewhere with this position, and he is of course very worried about his legacy and his role in history, which will be recognized by other russians in the future, and that is why i i think that he is not going anywhere right now, he can't leave before he wins ukraine, as we understand it is impossible at all, and that's why i believe that he will die in this position, he won't go anywhere but of course, his environment is also -he is thinking about
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it and uh-uh they are just in case uh-uh they are doing something to be the main ones as if in line to get this position but i think that mr. kiriyenko is here well and in general this very plan of kovalchuk that we have already mentioned they they are such ordinary winners. and mr. putin is watching all this and he is very much satisfied that there is competition because as long as the competition lasts, it cannot be an important institution because the competitors will pass er to others and that is why he even stimulates er this competition and er this struggle for power because it is a guarantee of his own security there are gatherings of people close to putin, their discussion of the situation in ukraine, so-called special operations, and de facto wars, they
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take place periodically in a narrow circle, in a wider circle . uh patrushev of the same ones that he and perhaps the head of the general staff joined and i think there was also the head of the fsb if i'm not mistaken and they came up with a new idea how to carry out the mobilization, which means they invite people there, let's say to the bank people, these are men, there is a question in the fsb. people come to pick them up, the fsb officers begin to hold conversations with him, in the end they are mobilized, well, without and here . the south of russia, and they did not refuse, and these are people with the necessary military specialties that are needed in the war, and then he said that let's continue this topic here, it was at this meeting that putin was informed that the competent leadership of the troops on the part of ukraine is a very big problem and
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they called our general commander-in-chief a hard-working genius administration. what do you think? well, this was exactly such a pin in the direction of shoigu, because he is not a genius administration, but at the same time, what am i leading to that he makes very bravura statements that to advance on all fronts means to give the command to destroy, arrange a hunt for the hymers, eh, and there we will still have certain systems and long-range artillery, well, in a word, something must be done to turn the tide of the war. what do you think, what is behind shoigu's bravura statements and does he understand what exactly he is? i am not talking about someone else . by mr. patrosh for that role, who will be the most famous person who will be connected with this
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war, among the russians, in the minds of the russians. in the war because kadyrov is now much more active. and what about his affairs there? well, they are not very good now, and that is why he also needs certain successes there, and he is trying to be the first to say there about the liberation of luhansk oblast. there is anyone, anyone else, but in general, i believe that now putin is personally in charge by the troops, and by that he did not formally change his position, but he did it through his head, and that is why there is a certain general who is pleased
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to talk about what a wonderful gentleman he is, because he is their responsibility and er there or they will be er appointed to lead the troops er lead them as one person and if the responsibility will be dispersed there well then there is such a reason why we don't get anything through zaluzhnik i used to rested in the crimea in the house of creativity writers in yalta well, because i am a writer in principle, and there they gave certain rooms to rest, and then other rooms seemed to be available to everyone, and it was still around 2,000 there, in my year, in a word, then many russians came to rest and we were like that well, then we were not yet even the war in georgia, in principle, there was no reason for any conflict, so we all rested and talked, went to the beach
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, and there lived a family near us somewhere from because of no , in my opinion, it’s called now the former sverdlovsk, it’s yekaterinburg so now so and so he was this guy, he worked somewhere at some military enterprise, ah, ah, it was already after the georgian war. yes, he was just then, uh, in the army, when there was this war in georgia, and he said that in moscow, well, we drank there some drinks, tea, so they talked to him and he said that when there was a war in georgia and it had already ended, well, as a matter of fact, there were no more hostilities, but he says that for another two weeks, they sent certain cargoes with weapons, well, supposedly to georgia. although he says they understand that these cargoes went somewhere completely different and who received the money for them was unknown. i mean, you can always make money in a war, and you understood why certain people hold on to this war very much. war but i understand that there are people for whom this is a single mother now. when such a big
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war is happening, are there any opportunities for shoigu there? and other people to earn money and what are the possible sums to put in their pockets. in this great war, we understood why few people want to that she ended on the part of the russian federation, of course, please, well, it’s easier than anything to make money on such an open war, yes, but on a hybrid war , why did they arrest, for example, mr. a very huge amount of money was spent there, eh, how were you directed to the struggle inside ukraine, eh, any actions are needed there, eh, in the political environment, to finance various agents of influence there, that is, it is of such a different nature, but when the war started and it was necessary
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to activate them, it appeared that this money did not arrive, and was it lost in vain, uh, well, that is, that it was ineffective, but they were lost. we are talking about billions of dollars there, and such an open war. well, it needs certain results, of course, if there are other people territory and there are victories over the usual nokia and you spend even more. and when there are no victories, well, that is, questions arise . er, there are such robberies, er, this is a construction there mr. salikov is a certain deputy there, and he
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manages this direction, well, there, of course, because in the army construction, it is such a significant part of the budget, they build barracks there for officers and everything else. i.e. in the direction of uh, taking money is much, much easier than with weapons. please tell me your opinion, because here you know that such things must be proven with facts, with appearances, with passwords. authorities and if so how close can they be to the president, or they are not there, or they work somewhere far away, or they are already sitting in prisons and cannot, well, if only they could find a way out, because again, um, many people are talking about
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what the agent yevhen and even there some people call their uh those uh nicknames like there callsigns otaki there supposedly gave them somewhere during recruitment and i always treat it very carefully because i understand first of all that uh when some history already remains in the past and descendants see it completely otherwise, it is possible that those whom we now call heroes were considered traitors or bad people by their contemporaries, and now we say no, he is a hero over there. and that is why i was very careful about this, because it is a delicate work, and who we consider a traitor may not be a traitor, and the one whom we consider a very great patriot may be a traitor and actually an agent recruited a long time ago, but in your opinion, do these agents have access to power today, i read the opposite what the russians are very actively looking for now bod some kind of opportunity to get to the bank, and they have it, and they can’t do it. and here they are, they have
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a whole struggle with such an idea. well, come on. somehow, we still need to recruit someone, well, it’s not possible now, but it can’t be done, please. well, i was also very careful here and we understand that even talking about it affects the situation and the kremlin is very pleased why we all fought here against each other and it was all about this i think that a- and there are even different inter -atlantic relations, which are affected by such and such conversations they also suffer because of this, but they do not understand that this problem exists. well, it exists, and many agents of influence, as well as, are now controlled from moscow, and i believe that this is not a political person , that is when they say that yarmak is an agent of the kremlin, i
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wouldn’t believe it, but he has done a lot of work and can be recruited there and be both direct agents and agents of influence. i believe that this is 100% probable, but as a sign. who is it? eh, i would say that this is who shouts the loudest about his patriotism and hatred of moscow he is the most likely agent because the one who tries to behave as a compromising figure, well , it is not very likely that he is guided by smith from moscow, but putin recently compared himself to peter the first. and now they say that he wants to appoint his daughter kateryna to his place, i am not there i remember what the last name is exactly now, well, in one word,
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putin's daughter, and that means they already started talking about the fact that it will be catherine the second, although there was also catherine the first, there was also elizaveta petrovna, there was also peter ii , what was peter ii, and then peter the third was killed and already became catherine ii, who, by the way, was german by blood and did not have any trace of russian blood, but it is not important. well, catherine ii actually already made the empire great, well, it's true , she made it great at the time, powerful , expanded the territory and improved it what peter i left her as an inheritance, do you believe that kateryna can become putin's successor, his daughter, because now he has instructed her to engage in innovation, some kind of investment, something, in a word, related to money. work is called, but the important thing is that he entrusted some work, by the way, just as he entrusted certain work to his son, eh, dmytro medvedev is his son . he is now in russia there, that is, they are already incorporating their children, so to speak. and is there any reason to say that all these patrols and another
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company there will allow the heiress of putin, well, his daughter, to lead the country? well, it is very interesting that mr. putin he was actually comparing himself with ekaterina ii many times before he started this invasion of ukraine. he always said that because he tried to create such a certain parallel between modern times and such a golden age as ekaterina ii created for of the russian version and uh, well, there are a lot of parallels uh, because putin is frankly creating a new aristocracy, and uh, it even uh, with consequences uh, and we are now talking about
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patroshev and his son, prograf and his son eavesdrop on his son and that's about putin his daughter trying to create a new one for a new registration, but now there are all those rumors eh what could ms. tikhonova be eh next is putin's eh i think that this is a delusion eh because putin by his nature is such a very patriarchal person and eh well, he doesn't trust women at all, and he doesn't see any power in them. he thinks that they can be workers there, but to be at the second level of management, but to lead. state. i
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think that this is completely incredible. we already had an example of a woman who was on the very front the daughter of mr. yeltsin, who was very influential and she was entrusted with many political processes and even the process of appointing mr. putin himself to the post of president of the russian federation, but she was never in general the leadership of her. she was always happy and i believe that here it is the same, the same case and the appointment, er, those who are new , er, to managing there, there are various innovations, er, this only confirms my opinion, because for putin, innovations are all kinds of stupid things because of which he only has problems because there are people who cooperate
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with these innovations, they are loyal, they are focused on the west, and uh, and that's why it's interesting for him that his daughter is there and they tell him what 's going on. he also obviously thought that about kateryna and was mistaken because he was killed. and kateryna became, well, here too, the empress if if we think about the possible mutiny, then here, well, yes , kateryna and the other daughter, who is now zelenskyi , can be very by probable people for e-e as as candidate candidates for the head of the rebellion because they are pleasant for the modern elite of the russian federation and can be such bridges, although we see that in fact women sometimes
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in history did things that men were not able to do, this golda mayor is margaret thatcher well, many people can also mention maria theresa. well , if you take the austrian empire there, but in any case, women have the power, that's why there can be such a person, as they say, an unexpected person, we'll see. tell me, please, there is such an opinion, i don't i know how true she is. putin personally, yes , genetically, i said that he hates zelenskyi and that one of the main demands that russia has for ukraine is to remove zelenskyi. and that he started hating him from the very moment zelenskyi became president, it is possible. well, it is difficult here, i remember. let's watch this video. yes, when volodymyr oleksandrovich worked at kvn, he spoke there and joked normally, and with such loyalty to putin. well, it's clear, listen, everyone was joking, everyone was loyal, many sucked money from russia, and now these people are too
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by patriots, but it sucked very well on the trumpet, that's why it's so, but that's exactly what's unknown, who, well, putin obviously understands what we're going to say poroshenko yushchenko , well, anyone, anyone from the political elite became the president, well, that's normal, but here there was an artistic director, quarter 95, an actress, probably he i thought so, and here he becomes the president unexpectedly, not predicted, well, it shouldn’t have been like this. and now they say that he hates him precisely because this person, who is not there a colonel of the fsb of the khyber pakhtunkhwa through the sbu, is not a personnel officer and is not a personnel politician. a diplomat to no one at all, but suddenly she became the president, and she did not seem to him what is the most important thing , is there any reason to talk about this or is it again some kind of made-up images, as if well, we need to create such a pr image of the confrontation between putin and zelensky, let them fight there somewhere, it’s illusory, please. no, i think that putin actually hates zelensky because
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he hates all charismatics in general. for him, they are people not intended for him. they are unclear and how to negotiate with them, he doesn’t understand. in general, he is an ideal person in the position. well, this is mr. dagan, mr. dogan, he is here. everything is clear here. he is even like an enemy, a competitor, or an opponent. well, he is understandable, and that is why you can negotiate with him. he continues, keeps his word, and... it's nice to be with him, but ukraine is generally such an unpredictable country for putin and it's not very clear, but he could theoretically negotiate with petro poroshenko because poroshenko is a businessman, he's a serious person, and his
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motives were understood, and that's why dialogue was possible and with zelensky, er, he is not clear about all this er, and more zelenskyi is a very bad example for russians because russians can also look for such a charismatic person as we remember when zelensky was gathered in ukraine then a lot of conversations started there about what and what in russia maybe the cord can become president there, or slipakov or some such media creatures, and of course putin was worried about it, but there was an attempt to somehow establish relations with zelensky here, etc., now on the screen in paris
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in december er-er of the 19th year and but um putin er-er feels very uncomfortable because he would have been promised certain things and mr. yarmak and mr. surkov even created a certain protocol and then it turned out that zelensky was not even going to sign it and putin considers himself er, hmm , i’m just very annoyed by this fact , i never watch how a russian journalist tries to get to zelensky in the video, i er, that’s what else i wanted to ask. we just talked about erdoğan . stakeholders, the interest of the un, which
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