zelenskyi, this is what is currently on the screen in paris in december 19th, but hmm, putin feels very uncomfortable, because he would have been promised certain things, and mr. yarmak then with mr. surkov even created a certain protocol, and then it turned out that zelensky was not even going to sign it, and putin considers himself to be, hmm , i'm just very annoyed by this fact. what else did i want to ask? we just talked about erdogan and i prepared the question, that is the time to ask it, so dogan in istanbul gathered the interested parties of the un, which represents hundreds of countries

around the world, e.e. ukraine, russia, and e.e. turkey itself, and they decided how to make ukrainian grain reach foreign markets today where it is most needed are the countries of africa, first of all well, let's say bangladesh really needed ukrainian grain, so well, then it never arrived from russia - russian should have also not arrived although they offered cheap in bangladesh already the president ran away, so they are generally having serious problems there. well, other countries also need the ukrainian zone. egypt, in particular, also needs ukrainian grain. you already have almost half a billion people , to round it off a bit, today may starve, and this may create certain negative processes in a certain food crisis, because grain many other things are also connected. so here is the fear that erdoğan wants to save people from hunger and help europe first of all, and putin wants to show that it is not him who does not plant the grain

ukraine wants to show that we have threats because we are demining it, so to speak, we will give a green corridor , and then it is not yet known what will happen, and we are entering a certain impasse and want to understand more here. well, i understand ukraine's position we do not want to create unnecessary threats, it is clear that somewhere someone may be hungry, but we have a war. therefore, we are much worse off, if we do not have to concede in everything in order to feed someone there, because there is grain in the world, but we have a war there is nowhere to go only to win and what could there be here, what could be such a diabolical plan of putin in this story, how do you see it? maybe this is how you thought about it and are still thinking. and where can he still play to his advantage? well, here i think you have a lot of uh, task number one, well, this is the task of the military uh, because if a real demining of the uhm area of ​​the

mykolaiv and odesa regions takes place there, then it will be much easier for the black sea fleet to act there landing or by some other way eh to attack publicly i don't know if they are going to buy it now or not, but even a potential opportunity, of course, during the war, it is very important for the invader. and secondly, i believe that putin is also in the political metal , if we'll see who are the main consumers of ukrainian grain, then we 'll see that these are countries that, if they don't support mr. putin, at least treat him neutrally and according to me he

believes that if you put a little pressure on them and create such dissatisfaction inside them, then they will will begin to more actively support the position of the russian federation er there on the hijacking site or on other international platforms, they will pressure it on the united states and in general on the collective event a-a and it is precisely because of this that the russian position er-e m-m er-e assistant but i believe that this is a mistake, because in the rest i understand that it is putin who started this war, and secondly, what is the difference to them, who is to blame for such consequences, they need to

solve this situation and the fact that, for example, the indonesian president went to see putin there before that there, the head of the african association of countries went to putin, this is such an illustration of the fact that they understand that this decision is not in ukraine, that it is not ukraine does not want to export grain, and it is russia that does not provide such an opportunity. by the way, today, if i am not mistaken, then must meet with the president, the president of iran, and the president of turkey, there must be this special person, forgets his last name. well, because they have an agitator who decides everything there . and erdogan - i know what i mean. and it's early now, i have to look. well and also as far as i know he still has, he went to visit the near east after biden, so he immediately went and almost met with the sadites, again there were certain agreements reached by biden, they are also good for

ukraine, well, if there were problems here, because sadites will still buy russian for cars even if they will extract more of their own. do you think that putin can count on the success of this plan of his, because yesterday someone correctly wrote eh here everyone for himself and then for himself and iran and iran and that is very little eh little little for putin's chances of that he will be able to achieve what he wants to achieve he please the relations between the saudis and the united states they have been very damaged because of the uh killing of the saudi journalist and such very strong and uh harsh criticism from mr. biden uh who is just there did not restrain himself from expressing himself if it was about the saudi

hereditary principle and well, therefore, if we take into account the national character of the arabs there, you will understand that it is simply tacteri to step over all these insults well, it is simply impossible, but uh well in conclusion, what can putin offer to his er, well, there was not much, but the history of relations between the united states and saudi arabia. er, we are talking about control over certain er islands in the red sea , er, and there are a few other things and

that is why i believe that they are just taking a break here, and that is why the russians need to deal with them also meet to er somehow them there to try to get interested in something else so that they don't move quickly to the side of the united states . but i believe that this is also a game that is strategic for putin, a loss for him, he can still somehow maintain good relations with the united arab emirates there and due to the fact that the emirates are set in opposition to the suvodians and there is a certain such game on e pages and counterbalances that takes place in this region, but in general, it is all the same when the russian federation will decrease there, that is at the end of the conversation, i want

let's watch the video, now in russia there is a new word for a gravedigger, this is money that is given for a person who died in ukraine, a russian for whose death it was possible to prove that this is money that is given to families and here the family received money for their alyosha alyosha in the grave family in the car, let's watch children and great-grandfathers. he fought fascism from memory. the first time to the cemetery, here at the very end, i want to take literally two minutes to understand this deep russia, well, it is far from us, and it is far from us, and from moscow, it is far from us. moreover, how can it be, in general, money is more important than anything. and life, well, they do not have,

obviously, especially so i'm saying that it's like this in general throughout russia well, but we see examples when, well, it's normal, well, it's a report, it's some kind of even i would say physiologically sabotage, because it 's now spreading on russian social networks, ah, very quickly, and a lot of people are commenting on it eh, this is very useful for eh. by the way, i recommend to all our viewers to eh do the same thing eh because the usual impression eh of this video is very bad and it is very bad not only for ukrainians and it is very much for russians, too , now there are many families who can not afford anything, and the russian army has such a classy nature, which is now essential there, from the poorest and most incompetent russians,

and also from residents of the national republics, and this is actually very dangerous for moscow it is very dangerous for the kremlin because at the same time they will ask the question why are we natives in ukraine and why muscovites do not even try to join this war that we must stop feeding moscow and it is necessary to change the power of the panel in moscow is literally a question with a yes or no answer. if not. if when putin does not become this gang will leave and russia may begin to build a new reality, you will return to doing the politics of russia.

the state, thank you very much. by the way, readers write, viewers write that they thank you very much for your ukrainian e-e power of inspiration to learn more. you are doing well, thank you very much. espresso we wish you all the best. congratulations , this is the news of the economy during the war and andriy yanitskyi. espresso tv channels today, wednesday , july 20. if you watch us on the internet, please like it. comment, you will see us . more people, the shortage of fuel at gas stations in ukraine is disappearing, and gas station chains are returning loyalty programs for their customers. this was reported to bvs by the sources of brsm-nafta. earlier, such cards began to work on the okko network, in addition to this , the restrictions on refueling military volunteers and large-sized vehicles were removed. and also restored the possibility of refueling in canisters

, the shortage of fuel still remains in the east and south of ukraine, where active hostilities are taking place. but in the capital, for example, there is already gasoline, let's see survey on the streets of kyiv, no, there is no question about this now, please, it’s a bother to the district on the gasoline pipeline, what 92nd, what 95th no, no, to date there are no problems, and for this i stood in queues of canisters until now i have a canister with diesel volume what can be, in principle, it is always located somewhere on the road without queues, now there are no problems before that there were long queues, they didn’t even start, it was necessary to stand in line, so i didn’t even go there, i didn’t stop by the drippers. i don't remember. well, gasoline appeared in the 92nd in the kyiv region, a

blueberry farmer was under russian occupation, but the owners decided to quickly restore business and continue work as soon as the russians left, how successful was this plan, let's see in the plot. it is 30 km from the capital, there are whole plantations here, not very common in ukraine, blueberry berries , the area of ​​the fields is over 42 hectares, the business is flourishing, 120 employees pick blueberries, water the bushes with specially purified water, then sell them in large supermarkets, amid this commotion, it seems as if there is no war at all, we really started the year with the repair of the plantation in connection with the fact that there were flights to the first and second sector of our garden, they beat the drip irrigation, burned the plants, it was a rocket , well, from the rocket salvo fire system, the tornado scattered it the cassettes were broken. so there

were sappers working in our farm to solve the big blue blueberry. from the end of february, it was under occupation very close to the plantation in the forest. oleksandr believes that due to luck, most of the blueberry bushes survived, and the orcs did not fire at the office, except that the guys came in to loot a little, and among these goods there were also some looters. well, i understand that the group quietly , well, they stretched out there little by little. they didn't you see, they see the calculators and probably think that it's some kind of macbook and a couple of laptops there, uh, they hid the bottles, but they hid the bottles indiscriminately here and there, like that, they were worth something a long time ago, right after the deoccupation, he says oleksandr began to think about how to restore the business , there was a problem with the electricity supply, it took a long time to restore their power generator, they found

fuel, they found new employees, half of the old ones are still abroad, blueberry pickers on the territory of the enterprise and live and work during the season, we live in dormitories located on the territory of the enterprise when the work ends, we leave our area and then gather again for the season. after a month and a half of occupation, the enterprise lost up to losses of 40% of the crop have not been precisely calculated, but the amount is predicted to be tens of thousands of dollars. blueberries themselves have recently fallen in price, and growing them is becoming more and more expensive. the berry was popular in ukraine only in the last few years. it was new. we used to buy blueberries there. it's sour. blueberries are a completely different story. they're sweet, they're big, and if you compare them with other berry crops, they're a real gem. the big blue farm is already working.

it has been selling blueberries for the seventh year and before the war, and this year for the first time business losses are recorded, but the employees and management are determined to continue working despite the problems, doing everything for our victory valeriya pashko yehor nikitenko espresso tv channel i hope that ukrainian business resumes its work in the liberated territories that the same will be the case in the kherson region and in the donbas and in the crimea. of the analytical center case ukraine by yevhen dubogryzam on the big economy greetings, mr. experts so, the main news of yesterday, which maybe not everyone has noticed yet, but it is so alarming, i read it in the conditions of war and as a result of the great

shortage of funds, the government temporarily refused to pay part of the debt obligations is the things about which the ministry of finance has been speaking out in every way in recent months. hmm, so far. this is reported by economic truth with reference to its sources in the cabinet of ministers of ukraine. i have not yet seen the official the announcements say that the decision will be valid for the next 24 months, that is, in fact, payments for ice creams until july 24th of the year, firstly, has this information been confirmed, secondly, what does it tell us, give it to us, yevgeny, let's start with you, it says that the government wants to postpone payments, i.e. not to pay interest and to repay the amount of eurobonds that ukraine issued in the amount of approximately one and a half million dollars by the end of the year, more precisely 1.4 billion

dollars, and so far there is no confirmation of such information did not get a job as a waiter. the ministry of finance refuses to comment, but the news is not very positive, because even last week, joffee race , the spokesman of the international monetary fund , said at a press briefing that ukraine fully fulfills its obligations in terms of international payments and we hope that this will continue to be the case, and here the government at least shows its intention not to do this. of course, this is not some kind of catastrophe. in principle , ukraine is quite loyal to those who lend us money, but i am afraid that it may do you also know that this can cause panic among the population, especially if different not very good qualities of snakes or even pro-russian mass media will

talk about the default of ukraine and this history must be properly communicated by the authorities that this is not a catastrophe and that ukraine in fact, nothing special is so terrible, it’s not about money, mr. mykhailo, could you explain the difference between a default when a country refuses to pay its obligations and from negotiations on postponement, that is, can we say that this is all bankruptcy and the country cannot be trusted. i understand that there is a difference. well, of course, there is a big difference. it seems to me that in the e-e announcement of this news, they did not exactly say that ukraine does not refuse to e-e pay two years on its external e-e commercial debts ukraine will ask the owners of these debts for a postponement, i.e. to

change the payment schedule to transfer them to 2024 and later. the terms of this are usually different from the situation when the countries default and completely renounce their past obligations yazan v there are such examples in the history of the russian empire, the bolsheviks came and waived the debts of the tsarist government and that was a default that is now remembered when russia repeated it again in ukraine it will be different but it is also a positive moment why that just a month and a half ago, ukraine said that it was going to pay for these debts, but there is money for it, but today we see that naftogaz has money to pay and the government says that it is asking for a postponement and this leads to the thought a what has changed in the calculations why in ours

now there is a shortage of money that we can't spend, what has changed, this is of course a negative point, mr. mykhailo, but 1.4 billion does not seem like such a large amount against the background of the fact that every month we spend 5 billion dollars, it seems so and so was one of the arguments in favor of him continuing to be an equal payer of his debts, and i think somewhere there was such a dream that after the victory of the ukrainian government, the ukrainian ministry of finance could come to a presentation for investors and say look at us in a terrible way the war was paid to the skeptic of all the debts, we are a super country in this regard. unfortunately, such a story will no longer happen. well, it is possible that for now it is

just some informational intervention, and still a decision will be made to pay off. if so, then that is positive, if not also, there is no catastrophe, and since it is not about a refusal to pay, but about an agreement with our creditors to postpone payments already tomorrow, the national bank of ukraine should review the discount rate. if i remember the timing correctly , that is, it is the value of money in the economy mr. already spoke and just er let's continue er what is the discount rate why is it needed er is it important for an ordinary so-called ukrainian although i believe that all ukrainians are extraordinary by no means this is an important economic indicator by which the national bank tries to influence the level rates in the country in june, at the beginning of the month, the

national bank sharply and rather unexpectedly raises the discount rate from 10 to 25%, hoping that e-banks will raise interest rates on deposits of the ministry of finance - the ministry of finance will increase interest rates on military bonds bonds. in this way, ukrainians will save more for a longer term, as opposed to buying foreign products, imported products, as well as buying currency, which has been observed for literally several months. somewhere, this national bank has not yet been fully successful. some of the rates have increased, but for example, on deposits, we see only some of the big banks there have sharply raised their rates, while large state banks are refraining from this step, they can afford to save a little money to save financial

result and that's exactly why there is an expectation that the national bank will not change the accounting much more tomorrow. a more important moment of tomorrow may be the announcement of various kinds of changes in economic policy that relate to the exchange rate, that relate to various currency restrictions, because... the national bank continues to sell about 1 billion dollars from reserves every week. and, actually, to change this situation so that ukraine does not lose reserves so quickly, maybe we are also waiting for some kind of announcement, or a decision about changes in the official exchange rate, or will it be floating floating exchange rate as it was before february, is it possible that we will just see a shift of the official rate of 29 to 25 to some

higher level that is closer to the cash level , it is not possible to say yet, i am not sure that the decision has already been made, exactly we we will find out about him tomorrow at 2:00 p.m. evgeny. and what do you think ? mykhailo is betting that there will be no revision of the exchange rate. and what is the most important decision? and now he is not is a representative of the contrabank, so you can talk about these topics. you don't have this information moratorium that the officials have. what are your forecasts, you know. we are very used to the fact that this is a decision of the monetary and committee, it concerns purely the discount rate, but now there are really many other tools, how the national bank can influence the e-e economy, the economic

situation there, i really expect that the national bank will make certain movements, especially with the e-e exchange rate. it seems to me that it is not yet ready to abandon the fixed exchange rate, but it is very likely that it will raise just the exchange rate level from the current 29-25 to some more market level, the possibility of some other changes, of course, that concern the banks, eh, but we will look at it tomorrow, you know. other colleagues do not expect sharp movements. well, because it will even be politically incorrect, because only a month ago the national bank raised it and said that it was an absolutely necessary step . therefore, lowering it somehow now simply will not be accepted by the market. it seems to me that i am you i support. i also have the same expectation. what will be

the solution for the course and we will not see the fully flexible one as soon as possible. finally, let's talk about neobanks, what are neobanks for those of our viewers who do not know, these are banks that exist only in your smartphone and not in the form of branches in our there are many such brands in the country, the most popular monobank is the sports bank easy bank. well, in principle, there are already many such brands, so the ministry of digital transformation is working on creating its own neobank, the bank wrote about it from forbes referring to own sources, again there is no official statement from the ministry yet, but this news has already caused great controversy in social networks. i know that yevgeny wrote something on this topic , i will not quote yevgeny can you repeat your opinion what do you think about the fact that

the ministry can create its own neobank, as far as i know now, this is precisely about the creation of a classical bank by the ministry, it is not about creating a platform or a fintech company that will make life easier for consumers. neo-bank - this is not a bank, this is a fintech company, we already have about 10 such neo-banks, the most famous of them are monobanks and in my opinion, just now the market for these neo-banks is quite strong. it is quite large. there is a huge choice of consumers . integrated with a lot of banking applications and with those banks that have non-banks such platforms and with those that simply work classically and there are no problems when working with banks to go through the action and in general i am not a supporter of creating any state platforms state banks some even state ones

fintech companies, this conflict is an interest. well, it is simply not a classic function of the ministry, in principle, you know, the minister of digital transformation, mykhailo fedorov, has already confirmed this. he wrote in a telegram to himself that we will not create a bank. we create solutions and give entrepreneurs there, ordinary people, the opportunity to live better to work this is necessary, mr. mykhailo, very briefly . tell me if you are for or against this idea, and we will finish with that. well, i don’t see what problems the creation of another neobank in the country solves, and if it goes we are talking about some related services that are currently lacking , especially state services that are lacking in commercial banks in order to better provide their services to citizens, then of course i will ask. thank you for being with us