maybe in the near future we will hear it, at least in the nsdc, they also promised some loud news and things are moving well until the fourth meeting in the rammstein format, it is obvious that news will still appear based on the results of this meeting, but what we already know is that plus four additional heimers installations we will receive more, the head of the pentagon said that the united states plans to provide even more of them, and mark milli also noted that 200 ukrainian servicemen are trained to use hymars. and this if taking into account that the crew of one installation is three people , that’s more than 60. and we, uh, hm. according to various estimates, in particular, the minister of defense of ukraine, we need at least 40 of them, yes, 40-50, so that we, uh, have a certain parity for counteroffensive, we need to increase this number, at least in poland. how would you summarize

this fourth meeting of the rammstein format, well, positively , but i just tend to consider it in a wider context, firstly, again, the seventh package is already being implemented there, it is against the russian federation of the so-called golden ones, well, secondly, today was a visit the first lady to the united states of america, where she was also received very warmly at the highest level . and again she spoke about the need to provide ukraine with an air defense system and said that she did not know whether her child would be able to go to school and how their children millions of other ukrainians, because of the fact that the russians are carrying out these barbaric rocket attacks, and in order to stop this, ukraine must be given not only heimers, but also air defense , so in this context, i tend to consider this the situation as another step in the right direction, and i tend not to think that this is not the last step and that there

will be others after it, what you said, so that in order to ensure first let's fire and then in the future in order to create an advantage in these firepower in favor of the ukrainian armed forces what will allow us to quickly solve the tasks set regarding the restoration of the territorial integrity of the state sovereignty of ukraine valentin, in your opinion, do our western partners set certain deadlines for themselves because uh the official position of the office of the president of ukraine, which was voiced by the head of ukraine andrii yarmak in an interview with the russian federation, is that it is extremely important to end hostilities before the end of the winter, before the cold, russia just wants to prolong time in order to dig in and turn this war into a protracted process, and it is important for us to end it because we also have to prepare for the cold. and with the destroyed infrastructure or the

inaccessibility for its restoration, we cannot guarantee normal conditions for ukrainians in the territories near the front or in general in those that are occupied, so what do you think the west sets for itself certain deadlines or not, i think he is setting and not only because , first of all, there may be certain problems with his approach. well, in particular, with the heating season because of the war, and most importantly, even before the war, the ukrainian authorities talked about the fact that, god forbid, if this conflict starts , he will pull tectonic changes at the global level, we have already seen these tectonic changes, in particular, in the lack of food in some countries, which has already led to certain social unrest, and it is clear that we must vote on the first cause of all these problems, and the first cause is war which was unleashed by the russian federation against the ukrainian state, respectively, in order to

return the world to some ordinary and predictable flow of socio-economic socio-political processes, it is necessary to create conditions for this war to end as soon as possible. how to do this, the answer is also obvious, the structure was announced by the ukrainians and the ukrainian authorities and our western partners must provide ukraine with the necessary resources, including weapons, so that we restore territorial integrity as soon as possible - this is the state sovereignty of ukraine, and then we we can return to the normal and predicted flow in the process, the truth is already without the participation of the russian federation in these processes, because we must not forget that the russians brought the system of socio-political relations, that is, not economic relations, from a state of homeostat or stability and now this system is again trying to achieve this

static myostasis, but already without the russian federation, that is, the russians thought that if they were excluded, the whole world would simply be destroyed and everything would go on scraping it turns out not. it turns out that the world may well stabilize and you actually have alternatives in this because they offered the russians on the international market that actually, today it is successful and it is being done, well, the russians want to depart from the iron curtain, well, it is their choice, sooner or later they will have to crawl out from this iron curtain, well , that is, if it doesn’t even happen today and not tomorrow, that is, they will go there by themselves, we will anyway , that is, the soviet union was under the iron curtain for 70 years, but we still had to crawl out and we know what it's over. that is, it's not a process that requires some effort. well, well, they'll live a little, they'll drink birch juice, or there they have chemistry only in coca-cola, yes, as this kremlin dwarf said today, well, they'll be under this pipe, there's

no chemistry there, yes, that's why in answering your question very succinctly, it is clear that it is pleasure to stretch it over time. sorry, this pleasure is in quotation marks. no one in the world is going to. well, except for the russians, they have some illusions because they had when the blitzkrieg failed. ugh, it did not become clear that so it won't happen, they now think that they are studying and will be able to solve it. we need to prove that and it won't happen either, but regarding the statements from the russian federation, it seems that now they have decided to blackmail ukraine about the geography of the war, this is before lavrov's statement, which stated about geographical the tasks of the war that have changed, uh, so that they are now claiming not only the so-called dnr and the lpr, but also the kherson oblast, mykolaivsk, or some others there that they wanted to capture. kiev and now they are competing to reach

the borders of the luhansk region, that is, it is necessary to understand. it is very simple and the geography of the war for the russians has not changed. and the geography of this war is all of ukraine, that is, their territorial war against ukraine is not based on a territorial claim . they claim to destroy the sovereign ukrainian state, well, either through its occupation in general, that is, i don’t know how they see it, or simply through the collapse and there of the division, relatively speaking, of the ukrainian state, well, or simply establish here some government that would be completely under the control of the russian federation and move in the direction of their national interests . then you will have to return home in plastic bags, well, if we speak soberly , the geography of their war is determined by the ability of the

armed forces of ukraine to stop it. so everything is concise and there is no need to scare here, it is absolutely correct. they said that what the russians haven't done yet, what they can still do from what they haven't done yet. well, i mean within the limits of conventional weapons. and that's all the poles, let them keep it to themselves. that is, we've already seen it and gone through everything that they they can do it, they do it accordingly, if they don’t do something, the answer is very simple. it’s because they can’t do it, they can’t do it , so let them fantasize about geography, geopolitics, and i don’t know metaphysics there. it’s clear, valentin. thank you, political scientist valentin glykh was together with oleksiy ryabchyn is the adviser to the vice prime minister on european and euro-atlantic integration and the adviser to the chairman of the board of naftogaz of ukraine, mr.

oleksiy. greetings. good evening. russia continues to blackmail the world and europe as its closest neighbor in the energy issue, and we see that now internal decisions or a call to european countries to reduce gas consumption by at least 15% because the volumes of those reserves that are predicted to be and are already being filled are decreasing by according to forecasts, this volume will be 70% of the filling at the norm of 92, as it usually was. do you think that the russian federation will succeed in breaking through europe or not ? does everyone understand that this is blackmail that cannot be succumbed to? everyone understands that this is blackmail. however, i see that certain countries or the leaders of these countries are succumbing to this blackmail and i think this is a wrong tactic. on the contrary, it is necessary to show the

kremlin decisively that europe or an individual country of the european union is ready for any scenario to demonstrate plans for how they will get out of the situation if they do not have russian gas, do everything, warn the citizens, you will take energy-saving energy efficiency measures, risk supply and show that i will live without the russians, and that even if there is an economic structure, there will be no panic to accept that it may be a decline of two or three percent, 5% this season , to prepare for the next season to enter with other sources of supply with more filled storage facilities, for example, and exactly then russia will shake and start supplying gas because they need financial resources in any case, they need to develop their gas-daily orthodoxy, which now asks a lot about it, but few people speak

. the transport system of the russian federation emits simply, well, record amounts of methane - it's ok, just in nature and air because of, well, there are certain imperfections of this system because of other regimes in which they work about the fact that regional revenues from gas production are decreasing, that is, they have problems with this, they need to divert this gas from other gas pipelines besides europe. they do not have them , they cannot very quickly increase the supply of liquefied gas or pipeline transport to china, which does not need so many resources now, because now certain relevant stories have already arrived. in other words, they need gas for everything they want. it will be met and supplied, therefore, if europe does not fall for this blackmail, it will be subject to demands, and i will speak from the position of the seven powers unity and will show solidarity, then they will have no problems pension. and you said at the beginning of the answer that there are countries in europe that are subject to blackmail, we

can name them, if not, how many leaders of these countries are ready for dialogue with russia on the energy issue, we can to name these countries, of course, we can see the story of the siemens turbine, which, at the request of germany itself, the canadian government did exclude sanctions , that is, the argument of the germans of the german government is that we do not want to give the russian federation any ghosts so that they do not fulfill the contracts. well, you. if, well, that is, if they decided to act. that gazprom is under-delivering and what are the contracted volumes, but these they will definitely win the judges, but it will be there for 2 3 4 years and

it is not known how much time i have tried for this while still at work or for them it will not be if there are no problems for these there how many billions to give when they asked to earn additional hundreds of billions there. that is, well, few people now know the structure of contracts of this gazprom there and we see that certain countries succumb to this blackmail. although not everything is so clear in germany, there is such an opposition to expansion merkelda hd scx , which is now more active, more attacking. here , in general, which has now formed, it is the christian democrats, the greens, and the liberals, hmm, in germany, they even talk about certain reformatting of the coalition, that is, they also have it, it’s not easy, and that’s why uh, there are political processes, no one wants to lose power, no one wants to. so that those in power are remembered with some low economic indicators, that is, politicians think in terms of politics, and when i read in the news that the imf, uh, analyzes there,

says that germany is without russian gas can fall by 5%. well, frankly, he, well, when in ukraine , we are simply losing population due to the fact that people are dying , we are destroying our economy because of you, because they do not supply us with the weapons that we ask for, that we demand, and i can even meet the deadline for that in order to prove to all the europeans that it is cheaper to help us ukrainians defeat russia on the battlefield, and then ask the parties there from those of us what these creams can do, because there is, legally, this is blackmail, and here is an important point, the other day i read a post by yuriy vitrenko the chairman of the board of naftogaz, who said that it looks like our european partners will again have to say a phrase that, as vitrenko himself writes, he is already tired of repeating, we told you, we warned you.

in which bureaucratic norms to what extent i'm sorry for the tautology, they are bureaucratized and there must be a drag on the processes, they still have such a bad memory of political history and they don't notice how russia is really blackmailing in the matter of nord stream-2 and nord stream one with the first turbine and the second one seemed to be a closed issue , but still russia does not want to push through its launch well, i can only agree, of course, with the words of yuri vitrenko and i just see how we are at different negotiations at different levels well, we really we repeat this phrase, i dealt with the problem of the northern stream-2 when i was a people's deputy. well , they didn't believe us. i remember what kind of fights we had with the germans, really. we didn't agree as soon as the questions related to the northern stream, that's all, that is, well, we had completely different opinions, but now we are saying the same

thing, the baltic countries and the poles and other eastern european nations are saying the same thing now. they are the germans, where are the americans? you said no believed well, i don't want to speak for germany, this is a country that does a lot for us now and accepts a lot of people and helps in whatever way they can now, well, de facto, well, it's their own fault that they built their economy on cheap russian gas in this way but they grew there at a frantic pace for many decades so that its chemical industry, their other industries there, they got cheap russian gas. they thought that, well, russia is not attacking. paternal relations that they will not restrict them there and they are now in poland in deep because well where are the factors they made wrong strategies and well then we don’t have it the people of ukraine will pay or other european nations there that is they should also be responsible for this and they also carry politicians , you know, there are more experienced politicians.

well, they are less organic. many german politicians communicate with the new framework. they understand all this. they try to act more actively . they help us. we have many pages there. that is, i did not say to germany, you know how it is alone. there are many currents, many politicians , a lot of internal debate. it is a difficult country. they do not make decisions as quickly as in our country. they can rise. well, we have an advantage, but germany is suited to such a wide public dialogue . the role of scientific centers or independent experts is important to them. they are all about discussing , that is, they will come to this. of the heating season, if with a turbine to the nord stream one, it seems that russia has pushed this issue, what about the nord stream-2. what do you

think here, reinforced concrete ? well, for example, today or yesterday fondalyan, she is a german, where she was the minister of defense in germany, now she is the prize of russia, europe, er, the head of the european government, and she said that, er, the northern poten-2 close the topic because he is not it is licensed, it cannot be used, that is, the russians are trying to play this game. yes, reminding of this, it is more for the domestic audience than they believe that it will be possible to launch the nord stream-2. and now, before we prepare for the heating season already on the ground and the central government is dealing with this issue , because it is actually time, but this is the opinion of everyone with whom i spoke, and it is obvious to those who observe the events that this will be the most difficult winter for ukraine, for sure, in the entire history of our independence, but how can we prepare for it

? we have never had any difficulties with it, and here again yes, that is, there were no easy ones, and here. well, that is, it will really be a difficult winter. well, under the intense pressure under the shelling, people work for oil and gas companies of private other companies, extracting gas is insignificant. yes, and you are compensated by a huge decline in the consumption of this gas, especially by industry . we went through this season stably without any problems, there are different calculations, how much gas is needed, that is, there are different agreements regarding its supply, regarding the mechanisms, the source of its financing, i will not now burden people with these, well, very difficult victories that are coming, that is, the government is working. we these negotiations began, well, i remember it wasn't the beginning of march, it stopped two weeks after that. we were preparing for the first such blows

, the only thing is that we can't influence how i ca n't react. this is a military situation at the front russia's efforts, it is possible, to destroy our heat supply facilities, our gas networks, exactly what they did to our oil refinery, our oil, which is mandatory with storages. that is, this is the risk that is very difficult to predict. and what to do? well, i 'm sure. i'm saying this on every broadcast, it depends on the people themselves and also on the regional authorities, that is, there is a question of whether it should be distributed, there is a question of financing. how is thermomodernization like that, and just like that, in my entrance, people threw themselves down. we put a second door in the entrance to which they not it was in order to preserve heat. i now understand in myself that such a return of the battery i had in the past was not enough. the prayer of the telemaster, he cut the battery, washed them so that they gave off heat more efficiently, and this, most likely,

we will not have such a thing that the batteries are hot and we all open the windows so that, uh, now the wind is in such rooms. yes, i think that there will be less gas standards there, they will give 18-20°, yes, they will give 15 16 17. what will the minister of regional development say about this, that is, there will be some savings in order to live comfortably, i.e. well, the person himself must also buy about it, however, the task of the regional government is to switch to biogas and bioenergy, to develop where there are forests the production of pellets so that it can be burned, and not only natural gas, there is a great potential for recycling waste for it is permissible for the world to burn it in such boiler houses, according to the best ecological standards that work, we have the issue of burning agricultural residues and these boiler houses that produce biogas, biometers, that is, we can do a lot even during the war, we in oil and gas invest in such projects eh. now we see the crazy interest of many, that is, a lot needs to be done. it seems to me that this is one of the biggest

such priorities in the energy sector, what can, what can be done diversification in fact well, it’s easy to talk to people today, they say that we are now going to attract a house for parents to burn down in the winter, so we are just parents taking it home for the winter and will be in this way that is, we will have a difficult real price, we do everything that depends on us. we cannot control, i said militarily, but people should think about energy saving, about energy saving and about other means in order to help survive this land and we see that in europe a partisan at the level of the european commission on 15%, all countries have to pay for their consumption. i think that ukraine will not be an exception to the government's wish to leave such tariffs as they are now, despite the fact that they are not economically justified at market prices, well, 10 times more well, as you said, the european winter for ukrainians is not warm and relatively mild weather in the season. and this is when you walk around the house not in shorts and a t-shirt. and you dress a little warmer simply

because that's what europeans do in their country ukrainian consumers may seem cool for a while because, well, we applied, you are absolutely right, maybe it is not popular, then i understand how he became a people's deputy, these are not popular things that you can say to people that they don't like it. it seems to me that now ukrainians they feel that well, they themselves understand everything very well, they need ukrainians, as with children and small children, they understand that war is difficult, and ukrainians need to be honest, so it is really possible, you will need to dress warmer, you don't know how difficult the winter will be, well, i i am very worried about such cities as mariupol, occupied for such cities as severodonetsk, where the infrastructure and the rest of the occupied places where it will be very, very difficult for the people, in ukraine, we are about the people and will do everything so that our people even destroyed infrastructure were insulated. i know what to say. the person in charge is the funds and we, and the work is being carried out. now they are all. i thank you for

joining our broadcast. the board of nak naftogaz of ukraine was with us, we will intercept the defeat, we will win and that you are not news , together we are strong, the additional system of himars will be provided to ukraine by the united states of america, as reported by the strategic communications coordinator of the council of the us national security in the white house, john kirby. the administration of president biden will announce the provision of a new package of military aid to ukraine already this week. it will include additional hummers. also, artillery ammunition and missiles for rocket launcher systems, the minister of defense of ukraine says that currently we need to effectively deter the enemy at least 50 hymars systems, and at least a hundred for a counteroffensive ihor romanenko deputy chief of the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine from 2006 to 10 years, now with we are in touch igor good morning greetings so

we have two more numbers yes what was announced by the minister of defense 50 heimers of creatures are needed for parity for a counteroffensive and already 200 ukrainian servicemen know how to use these installations, respectively, this is exactly somewhere around 50-65 installations can serve the ukrainian army according to us and prepare for such numbers in the near future, i think that this is the beginning, because in order for these numbers that you talked about are needed in order to complete our defense the operation in the eastern operational and southern operational zones to stop the enemy along the entire front and also to prepare to carry out an operational-level operation to liberate kherson and the surrounding territory. what did you

say about the language and the military? along the entire front line and force it to go on the defensive, thanks to this, there is a so-called operational pause, which must be used to form an e-e strategic reserve, this means to prepare personnel on the latest effective weapons technology, which comes on the basis of , including, the fourth decision of rammstein himself, the so-called, and to allow this formation of this reserve to be carried out strategically, to allow conducting a code offensive operation to liberate the entire territory of our country from the enemy to solve such a question, you

don't need 50 of such systems, you need several hundred of such systems, and in addition, you need up to two thousand kamikade drones for 1,000 m i need additional tanks, at least 500 for me, and so on. i would like to remind you that at the present time, the russian group on the territory of ukraine has about one and a half thousand tanks and three and a half thousand armored fighting vehicles in order to destroy it in order to fulfill its tasks on military potential should soon be equal to that of the russian armed forces of the russian federation. and in the future, offensive actions should exceed it.

to provide our armed forces with modern, efficient technology, civilized representatives of the world are going to discuss specific a-a cases, specific steps to stop an aggressor country and a terrorist. the russian federation once again announces some of its regular changes in the so-called special operation . and how to evaluate it, as it can affect the course of the war in the near future, i am referring to the statement of the minister of foreign affairs of that country, lavrov, i understand what is being said and the conversation here is that it the pressure would be on our leadership on the citizens of our country regarding the fact that the later we will move on to but we know the position of our society, our military-political leadership,

which will not go to such events and approaches, moreover, our company, which supports us in every way in this and the fourth meeting of primestein indicates that he is serious about fulfilling his duties regarding the provision of modern, first of all, heavy equipment, in addition, there is a statement of the grief that you already said on the air today, just relatively the fact that the united states and allies are monitoring the transfer of russian currency to e, and so on, that is, action measures, and there was a statement that the response of the united states to the allies was going to be quick and hard, or will it fall at the same time, washington predicts that for the strengthening of the ukrainian army russia will be exhausted by winter, accordingly, then there will be a turning point, which we have been talking about for a long time . unfortunately, we are limited in time. thank you for your

comments at this early hour. ihor romanenko, deputy chief of the general staff of the armed forces the forces of ukraine has been with us since the 6th and 10th years. well, we say to you with vadym. goodbye. take care of your native ukraine and we will meet in the next broadcasts .