universities and again our medical students will study for the fourth year in distance programs and instead of making slightly more difficult decisions , but it is also possible to change the gas heating , install heat pumps there . some radical changes are needed, it just requires some kind of determination and some minimal willingness to invest minimal resources in this, not large resources, not in order to insulate all the walls there and but it is actually real. it is possible. what can be done three months before the start of the heating season, but unfortunately what i see so far is that no one is ready to get involved. well, there is probably no suitable program. again, these thermal power plants that were destroyed, i named this okhtyrska and kremenchutsk, as far as i know, maybe some more . add it there, again, it is about restoring them, not decentralizing them, so not

providing autonomous boiler houses, but a fund to repair them, see centralized heating is not bad and is generally a common european practice, but in these conditions, when we admit that we will not have gas, then what difference does heating make if there is simply no source of energy, if we do not have enough gas, you understand . and in those conditions, we must admit that we need to reduce gas, see what is the systemic problem in the country. in ukraine, 87 87% of heating is gas heating. in the european union , gas heating is 40%. do you understand how much we are dependent on gas compared to europe, that is, even and at the same time, even in europe, they say that it is necessary to urgently reduce gas consumption, you understand. well , i will repeat that their gas heating is 40%. we have 87, you understand, we urgently need to change this purchase, which is so dependent on the energy carrier. moreover, it is so geopolitically

complex, let's call it that. thank you, dear colleagues, let's talk about this yesterday's information, which spread like hotcakes all over the ukrainian media, about something that seems to have already been signed in the president's office or is about to be signed some secret decree about the deprivation of citizenship of several ukrainian citizens, in particular igor kolomoiskyi, vadym rabinovych and gennady e korban, well, mr. vasylkivskyi is also there, there is a people's deputy, the heating season, when he will be there because of the rapidity, soon yes. and this story is already today. do you think it was planned? such an entry into the mass media with the aim of probing the reaction of whether there really are such plans and if they are, for what purpose they will be implemented oksana savchuk please in fact i have not yet is considered as a certain throw-in in general, the latest throw-ins

regarding citizenship, i.e. how do we react, how do we perceive, how do we treat the fact that and let’s get rid of someone, maybe some good russian . recently, we have been watching a lot of political incitement games that are thrown into our society, starting from uh, various personnel issues, ending with citizenship. and by the way , using your broadcast, i want to say that there it is also necessary to advise the advisers of the president to speed up the procedure for granting citizenship to foreign legionnaires who today are part of volunteer battalions and who are part of the armed forces of ukraine fighting and defending the territories of our country, that is , when they submitted the documents. i know five such examples, they have been waiting for more than two months for any - what are the results, and i think that it is too long

, so if we are talking about this very question that you asked, then for now i consider it as probing the situation, and secondly, i still believe that the citizenship of foreign legionnaires, if we if we would speed up here, then this would be a normal plus , but this is again a question and oligarchs, do you remember the register of oligarchs? and let's expel those who do not completely agree with the policy of the president's office, by the way, i think that this is not the first list, the next list is e- there will be those, for example , mayors who are not satisfied, and there will surely find some financial reasons in them that they financed something wrong in the army and we will have the next wave of all these moments, well, it is interesting that this list also includes igor vasylkovskyi, it’s not even the first time i’ve heard such a surname, well, a surname, but such a deputy is a people’s deputy from a hearing on my committee, the hearing of the people, elected in the 139th district in odesa region

, mrs. oksana, how did he anger god that they also want to deprive him of citizenship. i think, actually , uh she doesn't appear in the committee, the truth is in sky - when we have a zumi committee, then he is present for the information that is so, in the end, i will not be surprised when ms. bezugla requests to deprive the same tyshchen, in fact, it is very difficult for me to take any stories i like it because they are. well, not that. what do you have to do during the war? believe me, thank you. well, he is a famous odesa, but i see in the middle of the film there is a developer and a developer, well, at least one of his directions is this construction, uh, you can do it even without citizenship and abroad i understand that you all understood the presidents and the pump, your reaction, please deprive the citizenship of these four

indicated persons or is it something that is engaged in probing the soil and checking how society will react well, let's consider these two options if they deprived me of citizenship, then forgive me. and on what basis, well, with the same success, an order may be issued tomorrow that president zelensky deprived yegor chichirynd of ukrainian citizenship because he said something wrong on television, yes, or us and oksana, the same, yes, that is, on what basis just someone takes, and i am very far from being a fan of kolomoisky or other specified characters, but still the rule of law is a principle enshrined in the constitution and there must be a reason why a person is deprived of citizenship because if you go anyway- with such logic, it is such a very slippery path, because after that anyone who does not like it can be simply deprived of citizenship and the person automatically loses the opportunity to participate in the political social life of this country, so that is, a very clear

legal justification. if in fact the law was not adopted someone is just probing the soil, then excuse me. and now there is nothing else to do except probing the soil about how they will react to the deprivation of citizenship of some oligarchs. well, i apologize to conditions when boys and girls continue to be sent to zero positions without normal bulletproof vests. it seems to me that this is what the president's office and the government and everyone else should deal with now, and not pr actions to probe the soil about how who will react to the deprivation of citizenship there or not those or other people. well, the truth is that we need to determine real priorities, and when the guys send so far, i’m not talking about heavy weapons, but without armor adequate for the front, yes. we are engaged in pr campaigns. this, i apologize, is completely inadequate, and it seems to me that this is not what the commander-in -chief and the office of the president and the government and everyone else

should be dealing with. our defense ability. unfortunately, now those games with citizenship look extremely inadequate . until now, by the way, we don’t know whether they successfully obtained citizenship or not. by the way, i don’t care either . mykhailo fridman did not receive it because we flew away the day before yesterday. marat gelman wrote on facebook that they also received ukrainian citizenship. they are also re-registering their businesses in ukraine and will now be law-abiding taxpayers. of taxes in ukraine, ms. well, i don’t know if you did. did you read today, i will tell you about the illness that i sent a request to the supervisor with a request to provide information on whether he was granted citizenship and i did not receive an answer, they said that we do not want to provide such

information, and answers came from what i often think about the fact that citizenship is actually provided. do you understand the important information in the conditions of the military part of the language? it is very important. i wanted to ask you about the infrastructure, oksano, because we still have many thousands of people without housing. how are you approaching autumn, ms. oksana, your profile is because we don't know the meeting of the verkhovna rada is not broadcast about the priorities of the council, we will only learn from you people's deputies well, panina says that there are no optimization programs burning season and what do we have with our infrastructure ? we somehow have some kind of strategy there or a restoration audit. what will we do with housing that has been completely destroyed, where there are two directions . self-governance and the committee that deals with urban planning issues, er, i er,

even looked at the last er, somewhere, the options of how they plan to buy housing for people in different er cities with the funds received from international donors, what will these housing proposals be the only thing that will be submitted is that until the end i have not yet seen the mechanism of how this distribution will continue, i.e. how many square meters per person will it actually be submitted according to some preferential categories. as i understand it, this housing will be purchased by the state, a person will be able to live in it but will not to take ownership of it, as regards the repair of a half-destroyed house. i have such a situation in irpen. i am helping one condominium in irpen to fight with half-financing from the government's programs for replacing windows, that is, in them the windows were completely broken when there were fights, uh, and

the upper floor was partially damaged. that is, we have to join our condominium also in irpen, well, the truth is that we do not have a condominium maintenance company there, too. we have no windows. this is my painful topic and the overlap in three apartments there now people are being replaced by an administrative resource at their own expense, and yes, i also addressed this issue to you for, look, we can move in parallel, i’m saying that now this is the procedure when people have to apply, including to the people’s deputy, because they don’t have a clear and transparent scheme will they give them funds to the travel agent about the dress or will they provide a number, we understand that it is already wednesday for the summer. that is, it is time to get up less and less to glaze all the windows. therefore, this is the second program . call out, that is, it should be much more systematic and much faster, and the third

story is a story about the railway line, about the comprehensive reconstruction. by the way, such a large working group has been created now. i would call it too large a working group. cut it a little bit smaller because it was such a huge mess and there was no use for it, now there are only those who really wanted to work, what are our ends, different things, this is the first thing, we have the restoration of bridges in strategically important areas that are needed inside ukraine for transport including in chernihiv oblast, the second issue is to actually think about what we are going to do with the same bomb shelters, because the war will continue in our country, and we have started talking about this too, so that we are on a level with the local authorities to start implementing this program and the last thing i would like to say is one more key thing about housing, because people are

waiting for this the most right now. they are waiting for the truth. that is , we have to tell them, dear residents, we can help you provide slate glass there through this financing, building materials, we can compensate you by 30% 40% or 50%. but when we constantly fool them with these acts, they still pay money in order to make an act of damage, then with that act they go through mykola hell and in the end they get nothing. this is wrong policy and the second is apartments i hope that this distribution of apartments with developers, these will be those developers for whom, i'm sorry, it's not liquid, they can't sell in some half-finished houses, these are high-quality apartments that are sold at the price, which will still be a little below the market price, because it will be the state price, but in in principle, for the builders, they are ready to sell this apartment to the state for this price, because now the real estate market has frozen and they have already raised the prices, the

builders have already raised plus 10% and are waiting for a kickback, i think they will sell plus 10 and share everything will be fine no, you know, if it's going to be a twist, then it will definitely be big, big sums, by the way, i was approached by several developers saying, please, put me in touch with someone in the president's office. and i can’t tell you anything , why should people make the windows themselves, or should they go around the circles of hell and wait , and in the end you say frost will come soon? these funds and we are currently working on it so that they simply clearly say what they can, i.e. don't say what they can, let them say everything, we can four positions, but we will definitely give you these 4, that is, we are now talking to the ministry of community development as well. please tell me

what you are giving. if a person understands that he will not have buildings, the second by the way, at the moment we have a lot of men of non - conscription age who were previously abroad, e. they can't leave, by the way, they turned to us and said that if the state is going to make such construction teams, well, just so that we have some kind of minimum wage, we have formed in general, we can leave and make planned, uh, repairs of damaged housing, because today it's happening, you know both by the forces of volunteers and by the forces of such voluntary formations provided by local communities, but it is very accurate if we could do it comprehensively, then i think that it would also be a plus of especially remote salahs for the elderly there people, unfortunately, without the help of the community, the mayor, others

, they simply will not cope, thank you oksana savchuk, people's deputy of ukraine and inna sovsun, also a people's deputy of ukraine, a member of the council committee on energy, housing and communal services , services ... another teacher also has teaching experience. we are moving on to the economic topic, let's summarize the best of what i read about today's news about the course - it was serhiy fursov who finally wrote in all 36 and 6 so remember the president wished everyone 36.6 when he was in kova, it was relevant, and now finally, now the nadc blank is, well , i will officially raise the rate to 36-56, well, in fact, it is the same as it was on the black market. now the national bank said, well , we see the truth, we officially agree with this rate oleg penzly will explain what will this affect and how will it be reflected in the number so that

yesterday it was 29:25 and today it is 36 and 6:36:56 but as the national bank said that the rate remains fixed and the national bank assured that the rate is fixed at 29 -25 to today from the beginning of the war helped ensure the stable operation of the financial system. and why, then, that now it is no longer necessary to ensure the stable operation of the financial system in the future? why did the national bank abandon the practice of curbing the exchange rate? i ask if they did not abandon it. good afternoon. glory to ukraine. now, answering your questions, it means that the exchange rate is not worth talking about. the black market exchange rate is the cash market exchange rate, i'll just correct it so it will be correct, because the black market is something that is not good for children, but i'm sorry, did you come to the exchange office normally

changed, and there was no representative of the national police behind you who grabbed your hands. so , excuse me for this exchange rate, here you can say the real one that was in the money changers and the real cash at the exchange rate, so now it means uh, what about the rate 29:25 means the national bank did it absolutely correctly on february 24, in this way it stopped the panic, in this way it stopped the mass outflow of currency abroad , we must understand that it actually contributed to stabilization, but from my point of view, now the bank was a little late with the transfer of the exchange rate to er real numbers at the moment when he raised the refinancing rate to 25 er percent annual er at that moment he was, in theory, obliged to release the rate because this er excuse me scissors they created a certain discomfort among market participants,

especially among exporters who sold their goods abroad, came here and the mandatory sale of them was carried out at 29:25 at the same time when the market stood there at 37 hryvnias per dollar, well, this is wrong, it could not to be now he took off the last moments by the way he is not the only one who introduced certain changes regarding payments on hryvnia cards abroad, about the transfer of money from hryvnia cards abroad for individuals, but i also agree with him here that this will not affect the majority of people in any way that here are not those abroad, so in principle this is, from my point of view, an absolutely normal positive step. and when you and i talk about the corridor, we mean the following: the national bank, having established that number , he recorded, that is, he did not he let her go and didn't give her the opportunity to change the course

based on the change of such a thing. yes, he says, guys, and now there we have three or six and six for everyone without cash. at the same time, no one will limit cash on a large account. there will be more than that. the national bank from today gave individuals the opportunity to buy e-e for non-cash funds, non-cash dollars, and it would have been 46.6, so it would have been even without such a decision of the national bank , that is, the exchange rate that is today, it is mine look is already a certain ratio of demand and offers all the more, giving the opportunity to buy cashless hryvnia for a cashless hryvnia, a cashless dollar. and how will it affect

our prices in stores? i think people are much more interested in this today than what will happen. tell me what will happen then, so look from my point of view, as for the food market , it will not be affected very much, only on the logistics i will tell you my personal personal estimates, it is quite possible that we will see a small increase in the price of oil products at filling stations. the price of the actual dollar, since we have 100% of the petroleum products coming from abroad, it is logical that for a trader, the hryvnia cost of purchasing petroleum products has increased by 20%, so it is quite possible that we

will see a small change in the price of fuel itself and when you and i talk about prices in in stores, the logistics component will probably have a slightly higher price. why? because they used to transport gasoline for uah 50 per liter. now the products will probably be a little more expensive. everything and fights, volumes are paid, but what the oil market will definitely react to is exactly that. well, no one will work at a loss. so, for sure, we will see a small increase in prices in our grocery stores here for this logistics component the national bank, i am reading, has also introduced a number of changes regarding card payments abroad, you can make them in a nutshell, just tell me what has changed,

look at the most important thing, it will not affect the bulk of the population in any way, because, well, there are restrictions, well, count there let's say there are 12,000 hryvnias there every day for seven days, well, listen, you often buy something there for such a large amount of money abroad, there is a limited total amount of money transfer from level cards abroad it used to be 100, now it's 30 again, the restrictions are also that is, see, this applies to those people who are present abroad today and who have hryvnia cards there, from which they actually carry out certain transactions . it won't help people, it won't have any serious impact on those who

work in business. probably, there will be restrictions , they have decreased. with prices, your forecast, but we don't have a growth season here. what happened in the fall, that now is not the season for price reductions, at least the products will be cheaper , for sure, so what will we have to wait for, and this exchange rate will somehow affect the prices of products. well, i already said a little that the logistics component will definitely increase and we will surely see with you that the prices of products have increased a little by the cost of logistics, we produce 95% of what we eat, we import only the exotic ones fruits and fish are mostly frozen, and we also have fish and we don't eat much, all of us last big. well, yes , the ratio is to some extent imports, it supports the domestic market a little. but all the same

, you have to understand that we mainly feed ourselves . there was growth for vegetables, now vegetables will be quite seriously cheaper, vegetables from open ground have already gone from our territory , well, that is, logistics is even cheaper here, sorry, it is not from the occupied kherson region to lead eh. therefore, we must understand that now we will see a decrease in eh prices on er vegetable group fruits er unequivocally this will lead to a little reduction in prices . of our ports, if such things happen, it will lead to a little increase in grain prices. well, we are not children, we understand that it is so. and if the grain starts to grow a little, you and i will see a little truskavets for bread, yes, eat less

, any nutritionist will tell you, at least for adults, so what proper nutrition, mr. so, i wanted more ask about yesterday's yesterday's ceremony, he reported to the ministry of finance that a group of creditors of ukraine is ready to postpone the payment of the principal amount of the debt and interest on ukrainian eurobonds, the group of creditors recognized ukraine's exemplary experience in debt service as of today, that's all yes , in short, a group of creditors from the country this is how the ministry of finance wants to see the situation. is it true, please? listen, well, no one announces proposals for delaying payment terms or, simply put, the deposit on the day before the next one. payment term well, to be honest, it would probably be worthwhile for the ministry of finance to raise the issue here, well, it would be worthwhile to raise the issue, to start active negotiations immediately and not to lead to such loud requests

, because well, let's be frank, nobody needs a default, so they adopted a very interesting resolution, where did they write that if suddenly the creditors did not agree, then the payments would continue without changes , well, that is, you know, a small curtsey in the form of what, guys, of course we want to postpone , but if you are against it, then we will pays well, the same kind of kindergarten thank god the americans started talking two months ago, guys, let's talk about the postponement of meals because, well, why should we give money, what should we give, give everything equally? what did you postpone anyway? thank god the ministry of finance got it. what's the problem? we don't borrow on the commercial market right now, that is, we don't take anything from eurobunds. crazy interest rates . no one believes us. everyone sees a war. no one gives

today we really receive money only from countries, that is, as a sovereign, we receive money. that is, the germans give us money, the americans give us something, the french give something there, uh, the international monetary fund promises to give something to international financial organizations, that is, non-commercial loans, and in that situation, the position of those countries is clear that they should give something so let's say that in principle i think the situation is more or less normal and there won't be any problems, let's see how it is. thank you very much. oleg penzel, economist, economic expert and analyst e thank you for being with us yehor checherinda my name is anna valevska with you for the last five hours on the sts channel poltava battle in sweden while our defenders defend their native land footballers will represent ukraine on the international arena poltava vorskla

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