and legs on behalf of the people who are still alive and whole on behalf of those who are fighting and who are waiting for their relatives from the frontline i am asking now for something that i would never want to ask for i am asking you for weapons, weapons not to carry a war on a foreign land but to protect one's home and the right to wake up alive in it this is what elena zelenska's speech was like well, did the congress hear? did it not hear and in what quantity ? the results is the fourth meeting of the contact group, which is called rammstein, because we know that in april , the first meeting was held there, there were the ministers of law, the ministers of defense of almost forty countries

, now more than 50 countries are participating in this meeting, and yesterday the secretary of defense of the united states of america, lloyd austin said that we undertake to supply more haimars systems, ammunition for high-precision artillery and other important help, er, mr. mykhailo, to you as an expert, er, how much, how much , and what kind of weapons does ukraine need for that to not only to restrain russian aggression, but also to go into a counteroffensive, well, that is, there is ordinary mathematics. i think that purely mathematically you can say that we need 100 high-mars there, we need 1,000 there, taking into account the border that we have with russia federation and possible threats from belarus are so absolutely well, first of all, i would like to refer

to mrs. zelenskyi's speech, and she said to stop terror, and indeed, when you and i talked about what russia can do, what kind of tactics it can use, then we see that russia cannot do anything we have something new to offer on the battlefield and they use precisely the tactics of terror with very old missiles that are not accurate, well x22, everyone already knows that the deviation of this missile is standard up to a kilometer, that is, this missile will never hit the target if we are talking about single munitions and the use of these rockets of such types of rockets on urban buildings is real terrorism, that is, those people who plan to use such rockets on urban e-e buildings, they consciously know that this will happen, they will kill civilian e-e people. they will kill ukrainians, this is done with the

absolutely terrorist purpose of intimidation, of sowing the memory of chaos, of psychological stress , so that people lose hope, so that people cannot have the will to resist, and i want to emphasize once again that we are talking every day of this war, we need anti-missile defense, air defense, we are now talking about haimas, we are now talking about artillery. this is important from the point of view of military operations, but in order to protect, including our cities, we need missile defense is something we always say, for example , the same, the famous iron dome, yes, the iron dome from the point of view of protection of the defense forces of the territory of ukraine is not. well, it is not effective because it works against missiles with a range of 70 km, well, it is just anti-missile systems volley fire but why not place these systems near kharkiv, why

not cover kharkiv with an iron dome because we say we need people alone, we need patriots of course we need this in order to cover the entire territory of ukraine, but there is a problem in our front-line areas, this situation can continue for a very long time and in the kharkiv region . we simply cannot, in fact, take the entire kharkiv region under complete control, because the russians from the territory of russia are inflicting a-a with rocket systems of volley fire and banal mortars and other artillery systems strikes on ukrainian territory, and ukrainian troops simply cannot be there in this strip, roughly speaking, 20 km there, because there they can be constantly covered by artillery fire, and there is already such a belt such a gray zone where the russians have no but the ukrainian army cannot enter because it is very dangerous and inefficient to be there, therefore i think that we can make such a request to israel that we can put an iron house iron dome

in the border areas of the same sumy region, kharkiv region for that to protect our front-line border towns from terror, in relation to the supply of male patriots of german irises, slm, this is just a parable about tongues, we have been talking about it for a very long time, and i i hope that in the near future russian cruise missiles will be 100% shot down, especially those terrorist missiles that are inaccurate and are aimed exclusively at civilian objects and exclusively at urban buildings in order to achieve maximum human casualties when we mention the iron dome and other systems that are supposed to protect our peaceful cities, first of all, from shelling by russian aircraft and russian ships, then obviously, obviously, we

ask ourselves a logical question. what systems are there? there are hailstones and other systems that are firing at us. why can’t we strike at these systems, because the iron dome is certainly cool, but it’s probably better when it’s a source that generates and sends death to us from the territory of the russian federation. it could just be destroyed in the current war. we have seen several such stories when we can say that they were obviously ukrainian strikes, although there were no confirmed strikes. ukraine is afraid that russia will use more powerful weapons or strike as they they say to the decision-making centers, including in

kyiv, what exactly is holding the military back from responding to those systems that, well, they are simply destroying our cities and villages, you correctly mentioned the sumy region, there, well, every night, every day, the neighboring district of the sumy district is simply being shelled . they just shoot the villages that are there and the people that live there, in fact, no one is afraid here, but there is a real problem with the concentration of such tools as himers and long-range western artillery, of course , artillery, that is, if we say that we will have it there 18 caesars, well, imagine a thousand kilometer front, several tense directions, we have soviet artillery, the ammunition for the soviet artillery is running out, russia is creating an artillery barrage, they really have thousands of artillery systems, and here, in comparison, 18

caesars, there are 18... so on, i.e. completely different orders when we speak and striking on the territory of russia will be possible when we have a concentration of western artillery which is more long-range and more accurate than soviet russian artillery will become possible when we really have enough artillery in the main directions and through whom the ukrainian command will be able to maneuver them with firepower. that is, it would not be bad to create such a precedent when, for example, what kind of missile system is the rczor missile system of salvo of fire, the russian from the belgorod region strikes the e-e kharkiv in kharkov and in response instantly flies two e-e heimers missiles and destroys this system. i think that after a couple of such cases, er, any

shelling would simply stop, the problem is that, for example, the same tornado has a range of 70 km and it can really be destroyed by mars, but we still have a shortage of high-mars, so when there are at least 50 of them, then i i think that it will be possible to single out several installations that could restore order in both the sumy and kharkiv regions, that would cause a little terror in belgorod, a little above there in other border areas with ukraine, and uh, stop this terror forever, but for this, we need more concentration of modern of systems that could outweigh russia in range and altitude, mr. mykhailo, one more point or another object that is quite important in this russian-ukrainian war - this is the kerch bridge, and they have been talking about it for a long time, they have been saying that it is a rather serious transport artery an artery for

the russian federation that without this bridge, well , in fact, during the offensive on kherson and further on to melitopol, which is basically a peninsula, it will turn into an island if there is no kerch bridge. how are the russians trying to do something so that the mercs, which will shoot at 300 km, which we are waiting for us, how are they trying to prevent a possible shelling of the kerch strait of the kerch bridge, they did not take part of the black sea fleet from sevastopol to novorossiysk , how possible is the development of a similar scenario when the kerch bridge will be destroyed at the base of the black sea fleet of the russian

federation in sevastopol will be struck. well, ukraine itself will be able to control part of the black sea and not only the black sea of the aivazovsky sea, the question of the destruction of the kerch bridge must be considered in a complex way, and if we were to launch a single missile attack on the kerch bridge, this would in principle reveal the characteristics of the missiles with which we will destroy this bridge, our tactics, our approach and, in principle, at that moment uh, if we had to carry out an operation, for example, to de-occupy crimea, the russians could already be ready in a certain way by concentrating more means of anti-intrusion defense there and who would already know the characteristics and uh the model of our attack. that is, it is the same as how we destroyed the missile cruiser moscow. do you remember before that there were questions why ukraine does not use neptunes, why do we not use tons, then they were used,

and it was so successful that after we liberated zmiiny island, they destroyed more there are a few enemy boats and ships, and now they are already carrying their noses there, but in principle they did not use so many missiles. that is, it is a systematic approach. when we start preparing for the deoccupation of crimea, the first thing that will have to be done is the high-mar. maybe even not as expensive and long-range as 300 km to destroy the air defense system of crimea with a simultaneous attack on the kerch bridge. that is, we destroy the air defense and cut off the possibility of delivering other air defense systems, then we strike already on the ground infrastructure occupation troops with a simultaneous attack on the ship group of the black sea fleet, and in this way, if all this is concentrated in time and space, we will achieve the maximum

result, that is, if we stretch, for example today we will have one attack on the crimean bridge, then a few months pass, for example, and then the deoccupation operation begins, in fact, the effect will be much less if it is done in a concentrated manner, that is, an attack on the air defense forces, and while there is confusion , operational confusion for the enemy of the attack already along the kerch bridge and another critical element of the infrastructure, including the basing of enemy ships. when they are forced to go to sea, i will be waiting for the humpback neptunes, that is, i think that this is roughly how the operation to deoccupy crimea will look, in any case, it looks logical now, so far, what we are observing is how the russian occupiers are trying to hold on to the territories that they temporarily seized in the zaporizhia region, and we

know that in zaporizhia near the zaporizhia npp , the russians are trying to place their vehicles and their weapons so that the ukrainians do not destroy this arsene. we saw a similar practice from the russians when they took over chernobyl we know that the security service of ukraine initiated criminal proceedings and accusations of nuclear terrorism, watching how the russians are trying to use the nuclear facilities of the ukrainian state to blackmail not only ukraine, but the whole world. the world should react to this in a different way, because one attempt is to thunder with nuclear weapons, and the other is to simply blackmail and terrorize the world

with nuclear objects that fall under their control. so this is a nuclear chain, ordinary nuclear mentalism in the worst and i think there was no such scale in our history for someone to take over entire nuclear plants, well, i don’t remember that, that is, of course there were attempts of some but such a level of nuclear blackmail this is simply something phenomenal and it is only for putin’s terrorist regime i can do it and i'm very, to be honest, this situation is very similar. well, psychologically, and hmm, as for the development of the situation in the kherson zaporizhzhia region, it's very similar to what happened in the kyiv region, in the chernihiv region region in march in february in march of this year, when the russians realized that they could no longer carry out offensive operations, but their command

did not remove the task of occupying the further territories, do you remember they kept trying to seize the zhytomyr highway and lost there a huge number of people, the ukrainian troops were already at that time actually beating them with fire near kyiv and controlling the fire situation, but the advanced forces of the enemy still tried to cut the zhytomyr highway because they had such an order. there was no longer any the prospects of the military, etc. i am very similar to what is happening in the kherson zaporizhzhia regions, they already physically do not have the strength to develop this offensive, they already understand that the ukrainians are about to cut off their logistics and management system and the ability to move in general, but their task is to advance, they continue to carry out strikes on ukrainian territory, they even seem to continue some attempts to advance in the direction of kryvyi rih , that is, well, this is just idiocy, but this one is idiocy

russian e-e there is such a phenomenon of the order of the high command, i am sure that no one canceled the order to capture odesa, to reach transnistria , to unite with the occupied crimea - this task cannot be removed . with the unification, then unite with the forces that are now attacking donbass. i am sure that this task was not removed, and that is why i think that this terrorism of the zaporizhia eu will end exactly the same as chernobyl s when they simply flee from there. a certain moment when will be an order was given in pana to retreat because, for example, a group that is now located near kherson will be surrounded, and somewhere in the beryslav region, they will be stopped, surrounded and will surrender, and the group that is near melitopol will also begin to retreat to the crimea. everything will actually end, this all-nuclear terror, because in fact, if we

proceed from their concept, they should advance further. and then the zaporizhzhia npp, which other uh-uh ukrainian ones, should then become their property and bring them electricity that they can to sell abroad they had one just like they are selling our stolen grain now , they also want to sell our stolen electricity this is the obvious approach of the putin regime to steal er and profit from it this is their essence, i think it will all end very sadly for everyone. i hope that it will not lead to truly catastrophic consequences of the presence of these untrained goblins who, in some cases, demand the pin code from the microwave oven. there, russian soldiers go and demand the owners when looting so as not to lead to some simple incident at such a facility as a nuclear plant, mr. mykhailo, at the beginning of our conversation, you

said that the russian army or the leadership of russia miscalculated as early as february 25, it became clear and why why do you draw such a conclusion explain what they miscalculated, why it was clear on february 25, after they failed to take gostomel and the landing. they just put an absolute landing there. well, at the same time, they also launched an e-e landing at vasylkiv, they launched landings in many er, in fact, in locations around kyiv, and then we already found maps in which it was written how the guards are already entering, er, kyivskyi prospekt is bringing order, filtering e.e. camps are being created there, and so on. it's fun to enter optimistically. it's just that it won't be well defended by helicopters and cars. they're already ready for the parade, and i remember how

these helicopters started to shoot down. they were shocked , actually, because the paratroopers thought that they had landed of special operations of russia. they thought that they would go in and there would be no resistance, there would be flowers, girls, and in general, well, at most czechoslovakia 68 , where would they stand and someone would argue , but the national guard would quickly restore order, but in fact, this is all being done, all of this is the wrong decision decisions on military affairs, it is based on very low-quality intelligence, that is, intelligence information that was submitted by the entire russian agency on the territory of ukraine, then analyzed everything and reported to the administration of the president of russia, she probably painted a picture for which the troops were preparing. that is, it will not be a war, it will be czechoslovakia 68, it will be quite comfortable conditions, and in principle, there will be no war, because they entered the kyiv region of chernihiv , not for war, they did not even have the supply of logistics, when it was especially noticeable from those

units that went there for several hundred kilometers, some went to the chernihiv region and they did not have any plan on how to proceed because they had the task of reaching that place and er literally in a few days, help should arrive there to fill this territory with occupying troops and so on, that is, the operation plan itself was completely incorrectly prepared, which was based on very low- quality intelligence, on very low-quality data, which were the basis of decisions, and decisions are what they are on the basis of which the operation is planned, that is, in fact, a complete strategic failure, which is now fully confirmed, this is all that we see during the last five months, one way or another, we are faced with a rather simple question. will suddenly happen if russia is not ruled by putin, and why am i mentioning this today, because, uh, in these conversations

about his health, about how he feels , and what will happen to russia after that, this is a fairly active topic, and it must be in our media and abroad, yesterday cia director williams burns said that there is no intelligence that vladimir putin is unstable or has health problems. health for according to your feelings, what can change the course of russia's development? if putin is still in good health, if he is not in good health, yes. well, i think that, in fact , he has quite good health. well, he already passed the commission when in kdb e-e came in

, that is, in fact, e-e, i was very pleased with his behavior, if you remember the 50 seconds when he was waiting for erdogan, his psychological state is really unstable, his psychological state is really unstable, he behaved like an inadequate person, and this means that 24 - it's fierce he was slouched very much because before that he behaved uh-uh differently, look at his belly even grew, which means that he is no longer engaged in physical training, probably wrestling also and uh-huh turned him away from hockey, that's why i think that uh-huh is his psychological state he is much worse than physical and this can lead to, at this age, already quite irreparable effects on his general condition. if you fantasize and imagine that putin disappears, well, maybe he sometimes even jumped in fear when veran arrived he is me

look, i almost fell there, er, not unexpected , that tall, er, step, and er , that is, er, and what will happen if there is no putin, there are even worse characters, for example , patroshev, who does not seem to me to be adequate at all, and the emperor, who is at all ready shoot anyone there, russians, ukrainians, chinese, and so on, but in any case, putin's departure will upset the balance, the elites will upset the balance, and in any case, the next one will kill patrusheva, and then the struggle for influence on those e- e assets or liabilities which preserved after putin eh i think that the elites are very dissatisfied with what is happening now the elites are ready to tear putin apart he promised them that there will be a quick victory there will be a new profile there will be eh many times crimea is so positive or the results they fell into a trap and from which

in fact, there is already no way out, maybe two options, in fact, or national-monarchists like strilkova ghirkina can come to power , they also have such a cohort there that can do it or, by the way, i think that it will be most likely, and after them already after that, when such bitter shooters come, it will be a disaster for this country, and after them, liberal revolutions of some kind are already possible, there will definitely be a disintegration into several territories, and all this will end with the formation of several states. i hope that we will be able to then the ukrainian nation will then be able, together with our allies, to form a belt 300 kilometers from the ukrainian borders, so that there will never be any danger from there, on this optimistic note, we will end our conversation thank you, mr. mykhailo. it was mykhailo samusk, e.e., a military expert, deputy director of the center for the study of the army, conversion and disarmament on

international issues. it was a verdict program, conducted by serhiy rudenko, and i say goodbye to you until monday until 1:00 p.m. see you on the air of our espresso news channel and euro espresso programs for ukrainian refugees in europe joint broadcast with the atp channel radio svoboda programs time-time voice of america programs inclusion of journalists from public television news broadcasts bbc news ukraine and frantz 24, as well as the broadcast of the information marathon, the only news is together we are strong. glory to ukraine. we continue to search for 11-year-old danilo the coachman who disappeared in the temporarily occupied border region of luhansk region

. and now we have learned very important details that inspire us to act on the fact that everything is fine with danya and the main thing is that he is alive. broke up with them. at the beginning of march, with a request to help in the search, the granddaughter turned to us, another grandmother, who lives in new york, prays to god every day that a miracle really happened, that they were found, that they were alive. it is possible that our first program about searching for data was seen by his third cousin who lives in kyiv and it so happened that he simply did not know about the disappearance of his nephew, the man immediately decided to join the search and did everything possible to find out at least something about we talked to him on the phone and this is what he told. then i went to another woman who

said that she was told by a third person who saw it. then i went to the relatives of that woman in the mykolaiv region. well, there were telecircuits and the husband managed to do what seemed impossible as a result. after painstaking searches, he did find a woman who reported that on june 21, danya saw his father and grandmother, a person who lives in the same house, she said that they are alive, they are hiding in shelters, she says that they are alive with them. that is good. don't worry, but not she gives her phone number, that is, i don't know, you're just attributing it, the woman wrote that dania with her father and grandmother allegedly still live in a five-story building, the house survived at night, they hide in a shelter and during the day they go up to the apartment, dania's uncle above all wants to believe that this information is true says that until he sees a photo of his relatives, he will not stop

looking for them. for now, this information has not been fully confirmed, that is, when i saw that they were definitely found, we have photos and videos that they are alive for now, i would just order that 100% . it is necessary to check, we were also given quite encouraging information by grandmother data, who lives in the united states and how she can try to help from there. in search of her grandson, she says that one day data's father appeared on the internet and she tried to call him. my son-in-law's phone appeared in telegram and i i started dialing him all the time it was busy busy busy but i don't know how many times i dialed 20-30 times i don't remember anymore and then i still couldn't get in touch well there is no connection, that's the one i'm getting a message that there's no connection and i'm here every day, i ask everything

, i will call, there is no connection, there is no connection, unfortunately, this situation in the occupied territories is a common occurrence. they want to be 100% sure that danya is alive. i am asking everyone who saw or heard something, knows that they saw my grandson, danechku, please let your editor know about it, please let someone know video, someone heard, maybe someone knows that they are alive. it is even difficult to imagine what the relatives of the boy who, on the one hand, received encouraging information, but on the other hand, probably do not have yet, are going through.