eh, we will fight with russian aggression. sokol, as many as necessary, opposes the call of state secretary anthony blinka to recognize russia as a state sponsor of terrorism and says that, in the opposite case, congress can do it on its own . and about the publications of politicians in the ukrainian media. a sponsor of terrorism uh-uh about this uh-uh i don't have uh-uh information from the uh-uh white house or uh-uh from the guest department but i can say that we see what russia is doing

we see what putin is doing, and we will impose sanctions against them, we will take different measures, so that putin and his circle all those who support putin's actions against ukraine, so that they feel the pain this is so that they feel that it is necessary to change their action and ah and there is no putting an end to this, it's just us выставлеты точенные над етим а-а фотография конгрес имеать е -э другие пути другие this uh, well, this is our work a-ah in the guest department, this is work with our partners in ukraine to give them everything possible а-а so that they can successfully fight with russian aggression and will exert maximum

pressure on uh, russia, so that putin changes his course, what is another literally short question, uh, finally, uh, in your thoughts, i would like you to share what worries us the most dele oson in the united states elections and period political turbulence and we are already now seeing that ukraine not only falls into the epicenter of attention because of the events of the war because of the heroic struggle of the ukrainian army, but also becomes an element of the political struggle, we hear how someone emphasizes the fact that the united states has its own internal problems. yes, we hear this constantly at joe biden's press conferences . some of joe biden's opponents emphasize internal problems that ukraine has not been able to overcome yet.

reforms, personnel problems, is there a risk, mrs. callan, that as a result of this political turbulence, support for ukraine will become less. how do you feel about it? a we saw eh that eh first lady ukraine a-a ukraine eh-e spoke eh before the congress and with president biden a-a so that here is the support for ukraine it does not depend on the party it does not depend on the elections it's very much i everywhere recently, i was er your tone and saw in all er places in cafes in er on bridges and outside windows a-a

cheerful er-e ukrainian flags so that this means that er-e ordinary americans support in ukraine a- and the politicians are called in ukraine and we will er the united states will er continue to support ukraine as much as possible today tomorrow the day after tomorrow and in the future what is it thank you andrii kallov the official representative of the state department of the united states of america was in touch with us thank you for this interesting conversation and right now we are moving on next inclusion we already have an international political scientist viro-virokostyantynova with us in contact with ms. vira, for now we will actually finalize everything that we just talked about with the representative of the state department and about more uh, congratulations

ms. vira, do you hear i can hear you. good afternoon . well, let's start with the usa itself, since this was our topic in the previous 15 minutes. we can see that the speaker of the u.s. representative office did not hesitate to call on secretary of state blinkin to recognize russia as a terrorist state and a sponsoring state. terrorism and says that otherwise the congress will do it on its own, against this era, writes a political publication and notes that pilosa even called the secretary of state and talked to him about it, that the truth is that officially representatives of the state department and the speaker's office refused to comment, however, what are the prospects for what to expect and in your opinion , will this unquestionably important recognition by the secretary of the state department of russia as a sponsor of terrorism take place? and what will be

the effect ? all of russia can be recognized as a state sponsor of terrorism, what will this do from the point of view of our interests, first of all, for obvious reasons , no financial institutions or private companies want and will not deal with a state sponsor of terrorism, therefore, first of all, this is an opportunity to deprive russia of those financial instruments of financial resources to continue the full-scale creation of the second point, again, this is not a new trend because in the history of the historical context of similar statuses in our country, you know that is within the legal framework of the united states, there is a low country that, from the point of view of american justice, are e-e countries that sponsor terrorist qualities, including the

republic of iran, including e north korea e , therefore, we understand that in fact russia will be equated with e- dictatorial regimes and from the point of view of politics, this is an additional argument for, let's say , other countries of other regions, which are still trying to take a neutral position in the context of ukraine's russian war, and it seems to me the third point which is important to emphasize, the majority of congressmen and officials of the united states of america understand that the russian aggression will not end. if it is not stopped in ukraine, that is why it is like this, i would say even preventive measures, because you will remember that on the eve of a full-scale invasion, the ukrainian side actively talked about that sanctions should have a preventive nature, that is, the recognition of russia as a state sponsor of terrorism can have a preventive nature from the point

of view of the expansion of further aggression. well, i just i'm always confused about these things, just how can russia be a sponsor of terrorism if in this case it simply advocates terrorism, well, that is, terrorism is a theoretical status and from which it follows that political, diplomatic, economic and financial instruments have already been submitted in order to, well, let 's say, minimize cooperation with by this country by the way , joe biden was diagnosed with covid er, in his own newspaper, he writes about the coronavirus detected in the president of the united states, although he is passing in a mild form, but er, the test is positive. this is how he will be at first in the near future, he will be in self-isolation. fortunately, he was vaccinated by pfizer with russian vaccines

, which, according to recent studies by russian scientists , no one even checks yet, even though they have proven that they protect against new strains of mikron, in particular, by up to 2%. and that’s fine, let’s not get in the way anyway, because it’s important to talk to the ocean of russia in the next 10 days, because this meeting obviously has to take place virtually, mrs. vera - a few words, literally, what to expect, we understand that the american chinese relations currently, this seems to me to be a key factor in the stability and stabilization of the situation in the world, because many experts say that only china, from the point of view of geopolitics, can influence the decision of the president of russia regarding the curtailment of russian aggression against independent ukraine, therefore the fact that this is an important bell is

definitely important not only from the point of view of american foreign policy, because as you know, there is a question of ivan, who is now also a little feverish, and this is key from the point of view even stabilization of the situation not only in europe but also in other theaters, including the asia-pacific region, what is important in this conversation should be not just assurances that both sides believe that they are the guarantors of such stability in the world. it is important that after this conversation, let 's just say the negative points that exist, including in the economic plan, between the two countries. they have to be resolved somehow. and by the way, today i saw information that the ambassador of the chinese people's of the republic of the united states stated that the united states should also be present in the process of settling the situation between ukraine and russia, and

it seems to me that this is such a good signal that the parties are trying to reach an understanding because now there is a full-scale war in europe, but we we understand that a full-scale war in other theaters is also possible. and it seems to me that it is precisely the understanding of the responsibility that both leaders bear. it can have a key effect on stability throughout the world. well, let's briefly talk about the topic of ukrainian exports of grain, in which it takes an active part, turkey is now trying to play the role of an intermediary. in your opinion, will this lead to some positive result ? but you know, er, always

commenting on this topic, it is very difficult to imagine why they do not talk about the fact that russia should get out of ukrainian ports and russia should get out of the ukrainian cock, in any case, the fact that the negotiations have started, the fact that they are not, are not easy it is obvious that there is clearly no trust in the russian side. the question is how will the passage of ships be ensured and the passage of ships not only in the waters of ukraine, but also in international waters, and you perfectly understand that all the precedents, for example, the theft of ukrainian grain and then its export through bogus ports and through fake documents to other regions of the world is such a marker that the russian federation well, it has already found ways to avoid these moments, and that is why it seems to me that it is important to understand that there is a comprehensive the approach should be not only from the point of view of the

negotiation process. it is important to ensure the legal factor, the legal component, because as you know, it is very difficult to establish that ukrainian grain was exported, for example, to syria by the russians. vessels, and here it seems to me that an important role should be played not only at the diplomatic level, but also at the social level, because rejection at the level of society, even if you know, there is a great risk that tensions will begin in countries that depends on the export of our grain, plus the eu, there is a risk that there is a possible increase in these prices, which other regions of the world have felt, we need to talk with our partners in other regions about the fact that it is in the interests of the whole world that ukrainian grain returns to the e international market, and she has returned in full. thank you very much e

virokostantynova political science. sector of the lutsk city council of the seventh convocation and a deputy of the volyn regional council. good morning. well, let's talk a little bit about some current political situations, because we are all uh-uh 3.5 hours on the air and talked about international politics, the situation on the fronts, but also internal you can't ignore politics, especially since there's news here. well, i just don't know how to keep up with everything, and let's start with passports. andrii. i think let's start with passports. you mean that the deprivation of citizenship just appeared

the news that the president of ukraine, volodymyr zelenskyi, may soon sign decrees on the deprivation of citizenship of three influential oligarchs of kolomoiskyi, gennady korban, vadym rabinovych , was reported by the ukrainian pravda publication, as we can see, andriy showed from the letters it is already being made public by people's deputies and investigative journalists, even hristos groziv for example, no one knows 100% about bulgaria. is this a real document and it is still not on the president's website dated the 18th while there were others, all kinds of 12-year-old by the way, we are talking about a decree directly from the president, for example, people's deputy serhiy vlasenko published it about the termination of ukrainian citizenship by a number of persons, among whom the mentioned korban rabinovych from kolomoi and er, well, the text is essentially a list of surnames with a reference to article 26 e-e paragraph 26 of article 106 of the constitution of ukraine and articles 17 and 19

of the law of ukraine on the citizenship of ukraine resolution to consider a number of citizens in our country as those who have lost ukrainian citizenship, what do you think about it actually how to explain it, because there are so many aspects, uh, that it is difficult for you to raise, on the one hand, it is not profitable, because, as you already said, according to the legislation of ukraine, acquiring another citizenship automatically deprives you of the citizenship of ukraine. you should simply inform about it, but uh when talking about those people whom we voice, it is clear that they are not ordinary citizens of ukraine and accordingly raised to such a level as to issue a separate decree on the deprivation of ukrainian citizenship e-e especially on the day that many of the experts and political scientists called yermak all-in. so when did we all understand that all the recommendations

bankova received about yermak were actually the texts voiced by the representatives of the united states. so we saw that it happens in us that there is a certain level of distrust towards this person well, here i should say that probably the most interesting thing in this whole situation is the subtext and what exactly prompted the preparation of such a decree and first of all there is no reliable data yet is it really the information that will be confirmed later is only what you mentioned there from the people's deputies, some information is circulating on the network, there are photos and all the rest, but if we raise the issue of depriving kolomoisky of ukrainian citizenship, then here it is already a number of other questions will arise from the status in which he is in the territory of ukraine, because we know what is actually the situation today, and

they say that he is not abroad because he actually has nowhere to go, even if she reminds that kolomoiskyi is under the sanctions of the united states, and although this affects politics in ukraine, this situation was obvious, and during the war, this was also evidenced by his devices for the purchase of oil products at reduced prices, and uh, that is actually up to today uh, that as for channel 1+1, he was one of the co-owners with medvedchuk there, and this is a number of those nuances that always connected him with the president, that's why such a decree is from the president, which is waiting for his signature, it is for the majority of citizens of ukraine and not only just citizens of ukraine. i think that this is also a huge question mark for politics, understanding how ukrainian politics is done, it has little in common with transparency and honor, we understand that it is not just that these screens fell out and probably, well

, that is, they did not appear as the official message on the website yes, it’s time and two well, legally, purity will still be in question, because the president’s powers are to be deprived of er well, when it was poroshenko who tried to do all the exclamations of authority, there is no principle of er deprivation of citizenship due to that there is, in fact, there is already a second citizenship that a person has acquired right here, the moment is such that actually i think that if this happens already and goes into the public domain, we will see it on the official website . deprived of citizenship, and then what and why it was done and what will it affect , maybe this is some point that is related to business, a component of this is also, uh, very much as of today . many people are interested because you see that financial issues that concern kolomoisky yes

here is his last court, where he is again, after he was nationalized, privatbank recovers not small sums of money when the country is at war, the statements of the mayor of dnipro, where he says that kolomoisky does not help his city at all and does not give any funds for the defense of the city of dnipro, therefore. well, there are many such moments that leave behind a huge number of questions, and i am convinced that we will not have to wait very long for an answer. well , one way or another, serhiy fursa and an investment banker and well, a little bit of a political scientist writes about what it means real divlya - oligarchization, or the next moment a special fbi plane will fly to poland after kolomoiskyi, and ukrzaliznytsia likes to rule it in przemyśl, they say in the trains of ukrzaliznytsia, luxury coffee is now written

by serhiy fursa, it's interesting to watch how this story can develop. let's follow it. let's comment on other news actually related in one way or another to deoligarization today the national council of ukraine on television and radio broadcasting revoked channel licenses at its meeting investment company scm of the ukrainian oligarch rinat akhmetov and this and the live broadcast of the meeting of the national council and director of public relations and communication of scm nataliya yemchenko actually thought , let's recall that on july 11, as a method, he announced that he was forced to withdraw his investment company from km from the media business and as explained in scm, this is related to the implementation of the law on oligarchization, what do you think about it, ms. yulia, how can we comment on the situation with the disappearance of akhmetov's channels from the information field, what are the risks?

and is the country really awaiting a great de-oligarchization or should we expect that it will happen in the near future, you know, i will be happy if the country is awaiting a real oligarchization, but in reality, from what i see, we are fighting a dragon and we become dragons because as a result the fact that we are depriving the license of channels belonging to alternative owners rather than those channels that today broadcast our marathon constantly 24 hours a day, so we are thus depriving any alternative as of today and providing information from other sources, and this is scary because it can lead to a kind of small russia with uh, where we will once again speak only on the basis of the committed texts from those channels that everyone watches, because there is no one to watch anymore there is nothing, and accordingly, i think that you will actually confirm

that those courts that have now established that it could not be ruled out, where is it possible to take away access to the broadcast there directly with the press and so on, they in their turn show that if we go with you to democratic society and we are talking about the fact that we are fighting now, we are fighting not only for our territory, but primarily for our values, and values ​​include a practical approach that includes freedom of speech, then you can look at this situation from a completely on the other hand , because hmm, my friends, we are getting to the point where we will have one e-e network that will broadcast across the entire territory of ukraine and, accordingly, not having access to other sources e-e, because as we know, in any case, television is the which product

the majority of people expect, mainly voters, those who go to the elections, they want to see, to be told, shown in person, and so on. and this, well, is a statement of fact in ukraine. yes, we are a democracy, a little like the soviets. i think that it is possible to be a threat and actually pose we question what we see. well, we ask something, since you are the head of the commission, which actually before the war was the cross-border cooperation poland , belarus, ukraine. the commission, which is the international day of foreign economic relations and investments, and this program will already be approved in august, we hope that the european commission will give us priority directions for what communities in ukraine can apply for. what is the special feature of such a program, which operates

operated in the format of poland, belarus, ukraine, now belarus, accordingly, does not have poland, ukraine, the peculiarity of it is that these should be bilateral projects. that is, we cannot talk about the fact that we are ready as communities to turn to of the european union because we need it there first second third need until we agree with our partners in poland about what we are writing joint project what examples of such projects is this project related to, for example, cultural heritage, yes, on the territory of ukraine there were a large number of castles and ms. certain people who had polish roots there, and we could jointly do reconstruction and restoration there, these were projects and indicated european funds, european funds , that is, the project is submitted jointly with partners the peculiarity is, first of all, we need to find a partner, get him interested in this, eh, the main five directions in which we can submit applications have already been highlighted.

this is again, in addition to ecology, we have a number of points that concern the border region, directly, the arrangement of crossings there and everything else, and we already talked about it literally on tuesday at the commission, to what extent our communities in volyn are ready to apply for this program lviv region will also be submitted, we are talking about border and cross-border regions, there will be a large number of applications. so the key is that we have a large number of immigrants, we agree that we will do something, there are some issues that are related, not with inflammation, but at least with water heating, and they will relate to solar panels tied to ecology tied that is, we now have a huge number of moments in front of us, because the

money is actually there, and how to properly master it so that it is mastered with benefit. sums and we will talk about starting work, that is, for now, without culture, you yourself are speaking correctly, this moment is now suspended for us, it is not even defined as a priority, that is, if earlier we emphasized what we are restoring there historical buildings and all the rest, the understanding of the partner program is already there, knowing that poland is very loyal to us, we cooperate with them. they clearly know what is happening here, we already have it now . unfortunately, we have to use the maximum resources for you now people 's housing, a small number of displaced people have moved and everyone understands this, surprised, surprised, even when i was driving recently, just here, where i was driving, i was driving to khiriv, it seems to be near sambor, it seems, do you know

who is making the road, poles, a polish company, that is not the turks there, not our poles, well, it was amazing where to find information about e-e launch of programs that can be appealed to. if you have one, i understand that only a polish partner is enough, a partner from belarus is not needed. but if we talk about eu countries, the partner should be from poland i want to tell you that this is not very relevant. hmm, relevant sources, this is the website of the regional councils, few people visit it, but now they also visit it, especially facebook and telegram, so i want heads, i want it, yes , telegram channels are true and we pass already also on the telegram channel and we submit information there and now there is a huge number of requests directly from my colleagues and from me to e-e media people who work because a person reads those online publications

that are closer to him, yes, that are in his possession. accordingly , we will be there to inform about how there are factions in the volyn regional council andriy what 's next for us uh and what's next for us is a news release and maria and i will say goodbye until tomorrow just like that thank you to our guests of our rtr and already at 19:00 the russian invaders are waiting again shelled kharkiv"