whether he passes it or not depends on the political risks associated with that decision it affects three laws and there is some concern about what those laws mean for our ability to, for example , negotiate directly with russia or there are certain parts of the law that there is also some confusion about for example, about whether the us will be able to provide assistance to opposition groups in russia, although i am an exception in the appointment, which allows this, in fact , there is a wide discussion in america now, there is definitely a chance that this will happen, but i cannot say how quickly or how exactly are there currently four countries on the us list of state sponsors of terrorism cuba north korea iran and syria do you see any difference between this and these four

countries that are already on the list i wonder why you mentioned it because as i said there are certain doubts about that what can it mean to recognize russia as a state sponsor of terrorism from a political point of view, in the advocacy team together we talk a lot about the similarity of the situation with what is happening in iran, there are iranian military who, in our opinion, carry out terrorist acts are a government that does not really want to wear the label of what they are actually doing, so i think iran is the best parallel to what is happening in russia because there are certain common features, there are chances that russia will also be recognized as a state sponsor of terrorism depa nu here gave

an interview to national television a few weeks or a month ago, they essentially told us that russia itself included itself in the list of states sponsoring terrorism now, but in reality russia cannot include the state department should put itself on the list. this is the kind of rhetoric we need to take certain steps . we are waiting for this in washington. we are convinced without a doubt that russia is a state sponsor of terrorism. we just need to take this step if russia is recognized as a state sponsor of terrorism. will it change the situation somehow radically? there are already many sanctions . against russia, its discussion, will such a recognition significantly change anything, uh, great question, this is really one of the arguments against recognizing the state

as a sponsor of terrorism, because there is an impression that this just a symbolic gesture because, as you say, there is already a wide range of sanctions, we really will not add anything special, there is something if the country is on the list of states sponsoring terrorism, we can deprive the diplomatic immunity of people who, in our opinion, in the usa could have contributed to a terrorist attack against american citizens. we cannot do it now but could do with a state sponsor of terrorism however the key word in your question is radically no actually it didn't radically change anything it would cement our understanding of russia's actions would force us to work within these parameters and russia to radically change its behavior in order to get rid of this label, also one of the authors of the independent

report published in may on russia's violations of the convention on genocide in ukraine, a month or maybe a month and a half ago, we talked with your colleague, another author of this world azim ibrahim i am interested in your conclusions about what is happening in ukraine now. can we talk about the fact that russia is already committing genocide in ukraine? if you look at our report, it is about what exists serious risk of genocide and that russia is guilty of incitement to genocide incitement to genocide in itself is not genocide you can incite or try to incite someone to commit a crime and they may not commit that crime but you will still be guilty of inciting them to do it my personal the point of view of a person visiting ukraine who was in the kyiv region a few weeks

ago is that i don't think there is any other way to understand the actions of russia. i believe that the genocide convention as a document is actually the best russia's way of understanding it. it is difficult for me to understand why they could not fall under this definition when you see the destruction of ukrainian culture in the occupied territories, when you see the scale of this destruction, when the territories are liberated, then in my opinion it is difficult to draw a different conclusion, your colleagues continue to work within the framework of this project when we published the report, it was still at the end of the work, we knew this at the time of publication, we knew that we planned to meet with members of various parliaments to try to inform them in fact last

week when i spoke with people in irpen , the main author of the report, yona diamond, was in washington, where he informed congressional staff about our findings, distributed copies of the report, this report was an initiative of him and together for ukraine, so we are making every effort to spread this information and allow people to really to analyze our findings and understand well how serious they are because it is one thing to publish a report and another to actually take action we hope to see actions based on the results of our report in the future based on our briefings, you only need to convince enough people what your ultimate goal is , what do you want from these people. frankly, this is a political issue, we want them to act, how they

act depends on them, and according to the genocide convention, if there is a genocide or there is a serious the risk of genocide, and the report records precisely the risk of genocide, states have a legal obligation under the genocide convention to act to prevent genocide acc, it is also important to emphasize that our report establishes the responsibility of the state for genocide or for the serious risk of genocide. so, the responsibility of the state means that we have not determined that vladimir putin or some general or anyone who works for the propaganda machine and creates narratives of genocide is personally responsible. personal responsibility is a path that takes years, if not decades. through the collection of evidence and proceedings in court, and even if this happens, it will almost never be possible to bring the highest level officials who are responsible for something, instead we

we consider the responsibility of the state, which means that the state as a subject is responsible, that is, the state is obliged to act legally, and this also means the possibility of receiving reparations for the atrocities committed by russia, if vladimir putin is arrested and imprisoned, he personally will not be able to pay reparations to the ukrainian people or the ukrainian state, but the russian federation can with regard to personal responsibility ukraine is now calling on the international community to create a special tribunal on the crime of aggression against ukraine as i understand the final word now married to the people's community must be the political will do you see that at the international level there is a political will to punish vladimir putin now the question i don't know and to be honest i'm trying not to think about it

right now partly because while working on the report we are constantly we strive to emphasize the responsibility of the state because in the end it is a matter of political will and political motives crime although the crime of aggression is another extremely interesting way to understand what is happening that is why i do not i can talk about the possibility of bringing specific individuals to justice, but i can talk about the general political will to help ukraine as a whole, the world needs to be forced to do more to help ukraine and ensure its victory . they made a lot of noise in ukraine, my question is related to this discourse, is ukraine

perceived as a reliable partner by the west, which provides it with financial and military assistance, yes ukraine is perceived by many as a reliable partner , the statement or a series of statements that you refer to are the words of a member of the congress, who is the first in the congress , she has no real status in terms of the ability to influence the discussion, who is the co-chair of the ukraine support group in the congress, in essence condemned the statements of victoria, said that she actually playing into putin's hands nice like vincens a i love anyone i don't know anyone in the us who would really take these statements seriously kick me out siri or believe that they are true eh i think everyone

are perceived as the political position of the representative of the more populist part of the republican party, and when there is an opportunity to talk directly with individuals or a group of people, it becomes clear that everyone believes that ukraine is a reliable partner. the question is what amount of aid to provide to ukraine, that is what i am trying to do to advocate the provision of maximum aid in order to prevent the commission of new atrocities by russia do you share the fears expressed by some western observers that at some stage it may in a few months, there will be less will in the west to support ukraine at such a high level, because there are internal challenges faced by the governments of these

countries, and in general they are talking about a kind of fatigue from the russian-ukrainian war . fear is the real state of affairs. i am not saying that this will happen, but one should prepare for such a possible scenario, and this is exactly what everyone who works on genocide reports or engages in advocacy does not only together, but also among all those whom i met and who is trying to engage in advocacy , i think it’s really just about letting the americans understand what it means to be ukraine and a ukrainian, it’s easy to claim that the invasion took place on february 24 and that the ukrainians rose up and

fought for freedom, democracy against the imperial aggressor, this is something that is easy to sell to the americans. however , in my opinion look, the way to keep the focus on ukraine while this aggression continues is to start telling the history of ukraine and let people understand that february 24 was not the beginning of the return, it was the beginning the year 2014 and this invasion was not the beginning of russian aggression against ukrainians, and this aggression was not the beginning of russia's attempts to destroy ukrainian identity or culture. if we tell americans the full history of ukraine and the history of russian aggression, imperialism and colonialism, i really believe that we have a good chance on the long-term wave of support for ukraine, in

any case, even the argument that ukraine is fighting for democracy and freedom will provide certain stable support, but i can say based on my personal conversations with various people from from ordinary americans to journalists and people who have a much greater influence, and the more you talk about ukraine and the context of the war, the more they listen and the more they are ready to do for ukraine. i think we just need to do a good job of telling this story. and i don't i think that the desire to support ukraine will disappear because of this conversation and for the work you do. thank you very much for inviting me. i appreciate it. these are uncomfortable

questions for dark conversations. news unconquered cities of ukraine lviv is a city where more than 2,000 historical architectural and cultural monuments have been preserved, its center is part of the unesco world cultural heritage here at the monastery of st. onufry ivan fedorov founded the first printing house and printed the first ukrainian book apostol after the november order and the creation of the west ukrainian people's republic of lviv became the capital and the heart of the ukrainian liberation movement in june 1941 on rynok square, the ukrainian national assembly proclaimed the act of restoration the ukrainian state, after which the nazis started terror against the oun. the ukrainian rebel army

tried to take the city under their control, but the reds seized power despite the repression . today, all roads lead to lviv . even angelina jolie did not miss it. it has become a second home for thousands of ukrainians. humanitarian cargoes and even under missile strikes continues to work for victory because lviv is unconquered that july ukrainian online editions switch to ukrainian in google search for of the russian-speaking audience of ukraine, ukrainian mass media publications will appear less often, but russian fakes will appear more often and defeat fakes, you need to change the account settings and in the future make search queries in ukrainian rocks qr-code and find out how to do it in ukrainian - protect

national interests patch holes from bullets and wreckage, there is always a need for equipment, they always strengthen the hull, additionally, they gave an iron-type base that you restrained it with bullets with a military weapon . we will not stop as long as there are needs , we will work and do 24 hours a day. so far, what

ukraine is facing today has shown that the highest value for us is still a person and a person's life. in the future, we want a country in which it will be convenient for every person. i welcome you to the first channel. of the four-year-old girl liza dmitrieva, who tragically died during enemy shelling in the middle of vinnytsia, and at that time many ukrainians were confused by headlines that, in my opinion, have always been ethical. for example, i cite radio svoboda in the telegram channel, a girl with special needs died on july 14 until the very day in her blog, her mother described the difficulties and happy moments of raising a child with down syndrome, however, death creeps up on me, a question that receives little

attention in the information space especially now it is a question of how people with disabilities live and survive during this full-scale war of russia against ukraine and to start our conversation i would like to ask you if you have a publication can you share information about how many people with disabilities have suffered as a result of the full-scale military aggression of russia against of ukraine since february 24. perhaps you have information about the dead people with disabilities today in ukraine, you know there are two million and 700,000 people with disabilities, when really not only to adapt to such difficult life circumstances, and also to start living a full life already in those communities. where have they now come as far as shelling is concerned? well, here, indeed, certain information is not so public today, it is related to

hostilities, precisely with the information that is available extremely sensitive, so i can’t call you such data for certain information official m.m. there were more than 2 million people with disabilities in ukraine. before and after and only 143,000 people with disabilities were forced to leave their homes. it turns out that more than 2 million remained. is their fate monitored in any way, or will they continue to be provided with those social rehabilitation services that they received before the start of military aggression? if we look at the geography, then we can see that today there is a territory that is under occupation , there are territories where they accept and the community and those that are currently in such a state where active

hostilities are taking place today where the situation is under occupation there indeed, today we cannot say that people's rights are protected, unfortunately, we know that any information reaches the don and that people with disabilities today suffer from a lack of medicine and not the impossibility of getting the necessary amount of food, and the lack of it at all any really decent services that they received well, in principle, everyone suffers from that, but people with disabilities are a more vulnerable category of the population of small children, as well as our mothers in labor, that is, today we can say that in the occupied territories, the protection of people's rights is not carried out at all, and here it is important to understand that there is a certain mandate from international organizations, from the

international red cross, that when military operations take place in any country, that they enter there, and as a neutral organization that has certain opportunities thanks to because even if it is included in the international humanitarian law to provide services and medical and social and food provision services, then here we have to essentially demand from international organizations that they start fulfilling their mandates by the way, according to your information, these international organizations are actually fulfilling their obligations in the occupied territories, in my opinion, they are doing it very slowly, unfortunately, very slowly, and secondly, they could still do it in such a way as to help to our citizens and to cooperate more in these matters, precisely with ukraine. here is the question of how quickly,

how sufficiently they can deploy their missions, and how much they are not afraid to do so, because it is no secret that international organizations require for themselves, including the provision of security issues, and it is also necessary to take into account that in a certain way on the territory absolutely , that is, there are many very questions if we ask them, we will discuss them . people who are in settlement centers for evacuees, this says that they are trying to do as much as possible for those people who arrive in this community, and we also have to take into account the circumstances that if this building was not adapted before the war so that a person with a disability could move there, so that there was a convenient toilet

, so that simply any dignity for a person with a disability could be provided, then now, when they have limited resources, when they do not have there are enough funds for capital expenditures, and here they just have to come up with some kind of adaptations that can help or accommodate people with certain physical disabilities in exactly such buildings that were adapted in them until that time despite the fact that the vast majority of those who evacuated from hot spots were simply fleeing from the war but did not go abroad. they usually moved to the western regions of ukraine, and we do not hear about the fact that the western regions of ukraine are, to put it mildly, the most unadapted to the needs of people with disabilities, because these regions are quite old, the landscape is different, well, along the lvivska street, for example, i know that it is

impossible for a wheelchair to be in a wheelchair. well, it is also difficult for blind people to move, considering this and also considering that that all is a big burden, an additional burden on local communities that have accepted refugees, does the state help these communities so that they can at least provide services for people with disabilities to come to them, i would also divide it into several questions because there is a state level and state support when we talk about the formation of certain policies and the provision of quality of life and the provision of social, medical and other services that are the direct responsibility of those communities that today accept people, as far as the state is concerned, perhaps you have already heard that in order to ease the issues related to the extension of the validity of documents that highlight the fact

that a person has a disability, there is no need to contact the msec now and today, based on a doctor's opinion, these documents can be extended. that is, this already simplified. this procedure in this place would like to be more detailed. yes, it only applies to the case when it is necessary to first establish disability or only to extend, well, the so-called re-certification as well pass again the medical and social expert commission , all the so-called, that is, now there is no need to undergo re-education and how long it will last. see here, too, two questions in one, and if a person needs to be extended, then there is really no need to ask for an opinion. if it is the first time that the status of a person with a disability is established, then more rights provided for doctors who help a person to recover and they prepare conclusions if a person cannot come to the msec - it is

also possible for such a decision to be made in absentia if all the documents have been collected by the doctors also here we see that there is a certain simplification that concerns the general system of restoring people , the rehabilitation system in ukraine, i would also like to say a few important things that it is currently being rebuilt if during the war, yes, right during the war, yes, now, we will build a modern system evidence-based rehabilitation give evidence-based rehabilitation for me it sounds ah for the first time i think for the audience too what is evidential rehabilitation they have heard about different rehabilitation but evidential rehabilitation mmm explain what it is let's start with how it was and how people know today rehabilitation, if you break your leg, you go on crutches for some kind of electrophoresis, you take something there, you hear some medicine, you use it so

that everything will grow faster, but at that time, he is incapacitated on sick leave somehow this is how we remember how i myself once broke my leg and how everything happened and here it is important to say that active evidence-based rehabilitation is when a person is in a state of crisis from the moment he or she suffered a stroke or injury or something else in his life. a rehabilitation team that starts working with that person from the first step, and the first thing that is important for evidence-based rehabilitation is the person's desire to recover, then psychologists work secondly. it is important that the person understands what is happening, why should she translate, why should she move her hand? and a person together with a team of specialists, this is a

multidisciplinary team, which includes a doctor, a bialtologist, an occupational therapist, and i say a psychologist , and additional specialists who work with a person a certain goal. that is, we say that the hand is not working now. this is how it is. and tomorrow it will start to move, and this is our goal, so that we restore the functioning of this part of our hand, and this is important, yes. that is, we set a goal , we achieve it together. and it happens many times faster than when simply a person is lying down, they are anointing her with something , she is waiting for that hand to start working, and this transition from the old model to the new one is happening right now because two months ago, ukraine finally approved the international classification of functioning. that is, we have already moved they tried it for several years, well, guys, for many years before that, how to at least take it as a basis, but then the translation was carried out. this is the national standard. what

is this? we will measure it. yes, here is a person in a state of crisis, and this is it. today, i am able to function and my physical condition is measured . and that as a person