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there something appears, some certain ambitions regarding this material and a certain approach to it, that is, for example, big scissors appear and you cut something off, if you want to evolve and move forward, in fact, you really need to leave a certain past and burden in the past, because you can't do everything you overgrow yourself with everything throughout your life. well, you are also quite complicated, so certain things you constantly do some sort of moral, spiritual and even physical cleansing. so you throw some things out of the house in a ditch, it all happens in a certain way in this way, you know, before easter, before christmas , you need to put things in order, and things need to be put in order everywhere. my project, which was after all the loud ones, i called them, was very quiet, because i simply gave up concert activities and started purely recording the material. that is, it was a timed album. only tychini, finally, what did i get to him there? it was a poetic field triptych after all. i wrote it on a farm at a friend’s house. we
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had only two of us. i used the method of overlaying tracks and the principle of testing in listening monitors. how are you? you sing how do you recite how to work with articulation because in fact it doesn't sound strange when a person just speaks the space listens with his ears it doesn't really work like you already in the monitors you hear all this noise and all the flies that fly and how do you work how can you there to maneuver opens up a wider field of activity of your oral cavity and interaction with a certain world, well, i was interested in this. this also applies to those so-called musical experiments that you mentioned above, and suddenly when you i worked for myself in such an intimate way there for four years, i fell in love with it and already started working on it when i recorded tychyna mystical and mystical, these are my own texts, which i was thinking here, really, you don’t need them anymore, i wanted to record it, i recorded this album, i’m really a fan this is something terrible, but fabulously
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terrible, i think it should be recorded, too. i did this, well, on some favorite ukrainian songs, too, this is the nightingale, the album is purely just folklore in various such interpretations, again anyway, in combination with the music of the nations of the world, that is, to what extent does the ukrainian language interact with the music of, say, latin america, that is, in singing, well, everyone speaks english, but it’s great to sing, we just haven’t tried it, we haven’t tasted ukrainian in this seasoning, well, that is, it is necessary, it is necessary well this is what caught my interest, i worked here and there, and again, it probably just adds to the musical arsenal and worldview, and in the end, this is the project about which there is now a cake and a whip from the rough, what have we already started working on together with the boys, this is sashko marusiak and markiyan torkanik from nadrudan together, that is, again on the farm, because it’s like that. this is already a more serious step in some kind of attack in this
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fixation of our poets to the project, they are covered with katsaps, but i would i wanted to ask you first to play, actually, for sure, something. actually, something will come in. what are you working on now, what are the projects covered with katsaps. here she is already flying through the blue. the long -awaited invincible. here she is. hosanna and she is like a dream of a dream, charming, shining with a beautiful , holy, unearthly purity, laughing on the petals on the flowers with a radiant dew, and already in my soul
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he shines, dreams are curled with hops, arabesque braids, and frescoes are humming, high-pitched songs, and intertwining gatekeepers, and everywhere i paint marabesque slats and frescoes, a purse the songs are loud and intertwining gatekeeper thank you very much so they are covered with katsaps this is such a good song and it's fun and actually it will be published under such a name that's why please tell me what poets will be in to this project, what is the tone of this project, is it
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about sadness and heroism, or is this one about joy, as well as how did you even form this list of people? look, at first, i didn’t think at all, that is, only about dead poets. at first, i thought that it was necessary to record a certain map of ukrainian and from each region brothers by poet yes, but when you started looking for them, you see that in fact most of them are murky and that is, in principle, this is a map of poets. i tried to choose, in principle, again from the region regionally. there there were a lot of poets, chernihiv region, vinnytsia region , i.e. cherkasy region, central ukraine, kyiv region again , but also the east and crimea. by the way, there is the first president of crimea here, too, because he was a poet of the crimean republic, who was killed in the 18th year. that
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is exactly how the first ukrainian ukrainian it will be in crimean, it will be in the crimean tatar language, so it would be, well, in the original language, it is more crudely spoken about , so it would be. it is also a part of ukraine now. dubaeva and if i decided to join so, after diving in with them, he really thinks so. this is a ukrainian poet who is spoiled by katsap, in principle, yes, yes, a poet. well, in principle, this territorial integrity, which we now want to return, as if it was ours, was ours for 30 years, so that's why it was chosen here er, the group is not even only the poet, because here the ukrainian
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composer mykola leontovych, who was killed in his parents' house in the 21st year, came and introduced himself as waiting there, looking for criminals in the village, asked to stay as he was traveling for the night and shot leontovich in the stomach with a rifle at night. he asked the neighbor to tie up the father and daughter again at gunpoint. he brought in silver spoons, money, a jacket and revenge. well, that is, we see these same marauders 100 years ago with those sons, faces with those forces. their cultural faces are this mad grandmother's grandson according to dostoevsky. that is, they and i are in the oven. yes, this is the blessed one who drowns the kitten. culture and here, on the contrary, the eyes are imposed on culture, that is, i
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realized especially during the search for a portrait of leontovich for the project, because i immediately look for them from the german language, because now it is already good that we came to the conclusion that there is nothing russian for us there is no need, this culture was really imposed on us, again, we have a spiritual subversion like the moscow patriarchate, as well as a cultural subversion , russian culture is like this, with its invented majesty, the ukrainian word has no analogue you know, that's why they called it civilizing, or it doesn't apply to it at all, and we use this e-e word properly for a certain phenomenon. so here at the moment we are talking about our unjustly not to forget, but a murdered heritage. that is, they wanted to erase it physically. that is, these are poets who are invincibles, that is, if it has already gone on and gone, then for example, this is what i said , glory to the heroes, then it is more rude to start such an expression as glory to the cultural hero
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, glory to the heroes. but these are those who put their lives or cultural ukrainian activities nowhere and never disappeared and who is in your project? well, as i already mentioned, there are foreigners, bijihan. that is, this is crimea , mykola leontovych hryhoriy chuprinka, who was also murdered in the 21st year. let's go. this is mykola voronyi, who was just sung by his son marko voronyi, mykola voronyi. thing was shot in odesa with a group of peasants in 1938. in 1938, we see such cities, uh, in which katsaps still like to kill people, that is, just like kharkiv, a lot of people were killed in kharkiv, volodymyr svidzinsky, just about it means he in the 41st year, he was burned alive together with his brothers in a house on the outskirts of kharkiv. that is, we see how it all continues, that is, this reality, and again, from the supposition of what
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happened then, it is quite a puppy and vibrates very strongly, and i. let's say this and that's why it's just yes, and even the very work on this project even has some kind of healing therapeutic effect, we, yes, if you join something like this before the resurrection of this , yes. and who is the last poet, so chronologically, in what years do you complete this stus project, the 85th year, that is, most of the poets were murdered in the 38th year, that is, in the 37th year, the 38th year, the 40th year, the 41st year, the main one is there some of the poets were killed in this period, and stus was only born in 1938, that is, on january 6 as well as rudansky rudansky in 1934,
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even the difference of 100 years moved between them. well, i love this one in principle, mathematics, because i say everything, the project is, in principle, such that i would like not to support some certain such musical lecture room, yes, i have a song for you, but it’s not a song, it’s part of a certain concept, and the materials were going to be taken there , musically and physically, to be evaluated, actually, on such a double, let’s say there’s an album, yes, with a map of ukraine, with certain ones, there is already a certain visualization with layering that's how it would be and these cities, that is, everyone who does it symbolizes this particular poet and for the mortified one. i even wanted to choose only 12 poets as the 12 apostles, and there is one poetess , this is veronika chernyakhivska, so like mary magdalen let's put it this way, but there are so many poets there that i decided not to stick to this concept, that is, after all, it is necessary to take into account as many poets as possible and bring them to the surface, this is the orientation here, in addition to the already mentioned years of writing
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, that is, they are joyful there as well as well as the years that influenced musical formations, that is, if it is the 30s and 20s, that is, it is modernism, let’s say, we want to include exactly those musical trends that were inherent in that era and, again, repulsive. you see, this is poetry, not just a song with verses. a certain poetic form with a certain rhythmic pattern of its own, and you include roughness somewhere like that, let's say, stus here, it's just he, uh, in all musical directions , let's say. and that is why it is still necessary to sing it well, if musically it is ready, it should be written for voices, and in principle, i would recommend it to be performed by everyone in the church, you understand , even this one, simonenko, is simply describing things that are happening now and today.
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this is in the 50s, he writes let the worlds of terror happen with small eyes, you will be afraid of the wild ones. do you understand this, this is what we see now. this is how the man transferred to you in a poetic form from the past to the future, again talking about who we are dealing with, that is, for example you let the muscovites here again. that is, all this was said there, and you think so , it was so defiant. why would i want to destroy and destroy and kill and kill such people, and again some of these poets, as we have already mentioned, for example saussure and tychin, who are there as if so were sub-communized, so this is the psychological pressure. they are one of the few who were lucky enough to die their own death, so most of those poets were also actually communists, later who thought that communism could be bright and made such a strange party ukrainian communists
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let's say there were so many who among them, the irchans believed there, who in fact grew up as a vindication of the dirchans. and he later described it, maybe after all, maybe after all, maybe after all, maybe after all, all of them were then quickly murdered. because in reality, no one ukrainians were not needed neither in the blue-yellow flags, nor in the red-black, nor in the red-blue ukrainian soviet ones, i.e. the ukrainian uh-uh, the so-called uh-uh genocidal streak has been going on for quite a long time. that is, it really is genocide on the cultural uh-uh that is, why were those people etched, because if you do not have this cultural face, then you have nothing to show the world and we are going to save our people. all because our pushkin is standing there and everything else is like that. thank you for this conversation, and it really is so. what we have to leave with us not only our
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material possessions so uh because in fact we all evacuated just taking a backpack with the most necessary but we took our music and our literature with us uh yes uh we can see or movies all over the world and this is what will happen to us and for what identifies us, namely, marian was today, maryan's pie, and thank you very much, this is a program, a cultural instinct. and in conclusion, i would like to ask you to play one more song by vasyl stus,
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cities of ukraine lviv the city where more than 2000 historical architectural and cultural monuments its center belongs to the world cultural heritage of unesco here at the monastery of st. onufry ivan fedorov founded the first printing house and printed the first ukrainian book the apostle after the november order and the creation of the west ukrainian people's republic lviv became the capital and the heart of the ukrainian liberation movement in june 1941 on rynok square ukrainian national the meeting proclaimed the act of restoration of the ukrainian state, after which the nazis began terror against the oun. the ukrainian insurgent army tried to take
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the city under its control, but the power was seized by the reds despite the repression, the people of lviv continued their struggle , today all roads lead to lviv, even angelina jolie - she did not miss him, he became a second home for thousands of ukrainians, he gives the council tons of humanitarian goods and even under rocket attacks continues to work for victory in lviv unconquered heroes return from the war tired but the indomitable maxim provided cover for military equipment and received a serious injury, but the spirit of the ukrainian officer is not so easily defeated. to ukraine, let's celebrate the feat of our heroes with applause, a smile, sincere thanks, we join the
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all-ukrainian flash mob, honor the hero, they patch holes from bullets and debris, the need to press it, they always strengthen the hull . put on wheels and we will not stop as long as there are needs , we will work and do this much 24 hours a day . victory because the boy's car ukraine is working , we will overcome it, we will resettle, we will win and shield news together we are strong, our military, they are so cool, we
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all didn't even know until now how cool we are, if the gods exist, then they wear the uniform of zno well, zlata, we congratulate you on the first thank you agreed to this interview ah-ah i know that you have returned and we will definitely talk about it from the trip, but i would like to start, uh, you know, from the personal, from the family, you were born in russia, your family lived there for a while, you survived some time later moved to the crimea. and your mother is a teacher of russian literature, which i am, by the way, in the past. well, that is, you know the person who has a connection with russia. your family also had a certain connection with russia. please tell me whether you and your
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family are currently undergoing a transformation and distancing from this connection. my mother and her entire family are from the dnipropetrovsk region, the city of kryvyi rih, my father is from the kirovohrad region, the city of oleksandria, he was born and grew up there, and i often spent my childhood there. my birth is very long a difficult story that i did not explain to the general public because of the fact that there may be misunderstandings about some issues, and i was born in russia only on paper. in fact, i was born in the city of kryvyi rih , as it was then the soviet union, and i do not know what happened there with documents i just found out only later. so i found out that i was born in kryvyi rih. although all the documents, the birth certificate was issued in such a way that i was allegedly from murmansk, where he served. my
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dad served on a submarine and in principle that's how they recorded me, but in fact my birthplace is kryvyi rih, if we talk about where my father and mother worked on my coming into this world , then it was in normandy. you can tell your story as a person on the territory of russia, and we lived both on the territory of belarus and on the territory of russia, where my father served in the military, and it was there until the age of five. well, actually, about the transformation that i asked about, which is transformation if my family is from ukraine and if we have always loved ukraine in the family, she sang ukrainian songs if my whole family is in the tax line according to my mother's
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line, they all live in ukraine, what should be the transformation, that is, we did not have such a thing in our family in russia during the union, all this was not even discussed when we lived in st. petersburg and we had a lot of guests from our parents and there was no distribution where did you come from ? even when anyway, we were all together, moscow said that we are the younger brother, that kyiv is the younger sister, the younger brother, well, that is, i heard different stories, that is, it is not only that the russian federation has always oppressed ukraine, arranged an artificial famine, although this could have been prevented as well, by the way, as well as the blockade er leningrad this was simply the policy of this er under-empire
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to arrange a famine er to make the worst possible conditions for the existence of the people of the ukrainian people as a whole. the famine and all that happened here even during the second soviet war, to create the most bad and difficult conditions in order to suppress ukrainian culture in order to tell us that we are unworthy to live well , unworthy of our own thoughts and even expressions, unworthy of life as a nation, all these stories are about the union that we are supposed to be brothers, that we are supposed to be together, this is bullshit, it is not true and only people who do not have critical thinking, who did not have critical thinking, at that time they believed and ate these stories, when we came to crimea, even there, dad arranged for us to speak ukrainian once a
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week. we made fun of him, dad said. well, what kind of nonsense is this? well, i mean, how funny it was for the children to see dad in complete seriousness telling us all this. and then i i appreciated it and it's a very cool tradition. and now i'm grateful to my father for it. and tell me , please, are you talking like that about the total propaganda that russia has imposed on us for many years, in particular, these theses from the manual about the younger sister of the younger brother and so on about this whole story. when did all this understanding come to you about which you just said. i never liked the russians as a resident of crimea because i can say do you know your own cut or what they say in a sociological survey when they do it on the streets, here i am a resident of crimea who grew up there, and in principle i could succumb to the propaganda that was constantly being spread there, these fifth colonies were in the mood for news, but
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inside me there was something like mistrust mistrust. so when the russians came to us for vacation in the summer. well, if peter is all anyway intelligentsia, and when families from st. petersburg lived there, resting in an apartment, it was still possible to somehow accept them. well, they were more or less adequate, but all the others, well, in the direct sense, somehow morally wiped their feet against the crimeans in the sense that we come to you, we pay you money, so please shut your mouth and pray to us as if to gods that we bring you all this and you have something to live for, well, it can't be like that. okay, you bring us these funds, but we, er, in return, we give you housing delicious food , safety, um, care, yes, and all these well, let's say
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even all these crimean parties and to which all the people from all over russia came together, this kazantype this it was generally such a republic of kazantype where there were a lot of peoples from different countries and after all that, after all the emotions they received in the crimea, tell us what we give you money, that's why you have to kiss our ass, excuse me , that's just my rhetoric. and when did this transformation with the language happen, because you spoke russian for a while, you have russian and ukrainian, and now in your life i speak russian and in ukrainian, that is, there is instagram. he switched to the ukrainian language, that this is an example of how we should now support our culture, our country, the thesis that we are fighting because if we do not have a language, there will be no culture, if we do not nurture our native language, it
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will simply disappear in poland, they speak the polish language this moment of understanding the bone. well, look at my instagram, if you look at my posts, i had posts in ukrainian and russian, just now, just now, this is such a principled position when the full-scale invasion began. and we have remember that the war has not been going on since february 24, it has been going on since the 14th year. yes, it is just now such a principled position. show an example. until then , you did not think about this principled position after the 14th year. well, first of all, 13- since the 19th year, i have been constantly going to the soldiers with volunteers with concerts to military units, and we were both in the east and in shiroki. i did not have a transformation. i always went to the soldiers starting from this 14th year, and then i was told a very strange thing like that why are you going there - it doesn't look like it
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in concert, it’s good there are no cranes, the stage is like that for a moment, i don’t go there for glamor or the screen and the stage, the fighters need support so that they understand that they are with the people, and then i wanted to just spit in the face of these people, but i’m a polite girl, i restrained myself in order not to say any harsh words to them, now i would say, i would say in vain that i was silent then and so i leveled everything, and i can still say that now, and i think that there should even be some such program at the state level so that ukrainian artists travel constantly in this part and supported the soldiers well, so that the soldiers understand that they, together with the people, are needed, they are waiting for them, they are loved, they are valued and respected, as it is in america, in america, it is an honor to do something for the military. i know even such cases when citizens see the military in the
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