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thank you for the joint work of the tabs fund, you have a volunteer, i will tell the headquarters with the help of our military that these vests about them are not really produced here, we handed them over for probably two months and thank you very much, i will protect our defenders. good evening. we are from ukraine, vasyl zima 's big broadcast my real name is winter two hours of air time and my colleagues are with you until 21:00 two hours of your time we will talk about the most important two hours to learn about the war serhiy zhoretska joins the air the military summaries of the day and what the world is alive what in the world will be told by yuri the physicist for two hours to be aware of the economic news of the radio operators oleksandr morshchyntsi he tells us about the economy during the war and new sports yevhen pastukhov is ready to talk about sports for 2 hours in the
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company of his favorite presenters about culture during the war he is ready to talk the war or something else that many have become as if the weather may give us some optimism ms. natalka didenko is ready to tell us, and we will also have distinguished guests of the studio today, volodymyr hryshko, if all goes well good, the events of the day in two hours, vasyl's big broadcast in the winter, a project for smart and caring people in the evening , naespresso, good evening. i am from ukraine, my friends, i am vitaliy portnikov and we continue our informational broadcast on the express tv channel , as always, at this hour, we talk about current events , answer your questions if we have time , of course we will do it. if we don't have time to do it, we will certainly answer some of these questions during the interactive at the end of our
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broadcast with mykola in september at approximately 5:30 p.m., so that in in any case, your opinion is very important to us, and these questions you ask are, one might say, food for those thoughts that we have when we analyze the events of this war, how the situation will develop, what are the public attitudes and what are the intentions of our enemies by the way, i'll start with the intentions of our enemies eh. it seems to me that this week there were a lot of serious statements that are now being analyzed by leading commentators in the world and which are also very worth talking about. i mean, first of all, the statement that was made with those which ones spoke almost simultaneously, the minister of foreign affairs of the russian federation sergey lavrov and the president of the russian federation volodymyr sergey
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lavrov said that the russian federation is expanding the so -called geographical framework of the so-called special military operation that vladimir putin launched on february 24 of this year, and that now this special military operation is not limited to the borders of donetsk of the luhansk region and everyone speaks of this statement as a frankness session on the part of the minister of foreign affairs of the russian federation, but to me it seems that lavrov simply said what you and i already knew very well and realize that this war does not have any geographical framework. by the way, this allows us to return to 2014 and before i tried to explain the events that will develop after the russian army attacked the crimea, then
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the ukrainian mainland after vladimir putin made a decision to annex the peninsula and the war began for the creation of the so -called novorossiya, the borders of which, by the way, were absolutely clearly outlined by the russian president in his the so-called crimean speech, i.e. the speech at the meeting of the federal assembly of the russian federation , during which decisions were made on the annexation of crimea and sevastopol, and i believed that this decision of vladimir putin is irreversible, because when the first shot is fired, it is known for the history of the first world war and the second world war from now on, events are developing absolutely according to the expected scenario, it is impossible to roll them back, and in this regard, we just have to realize
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what was happening at the time when the decision was made about the annexation of crimea and the creation of the so-called people's republics in donbas, many ukrainians sincerely believed that relations with russia could be normalized and the war could somehow be frozen for a long time and in general made so that it would never happen, and there were many proposals in this regard. to mention crimea, you can remember that after 2019 and until 2021 they tried not to mention crimea officially until
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the moment in kyiv it was decided to prepare themselves from the crimean platform in order to achieve some agreements on donbas, regarding donbas, i said there were two options quite popular in society, one is better than the other and both are utopian. the first option consisted of giving putin donbas . there will be no problems with russia, and the second option was that what would be a disaster for ukraine if russia
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agrees to implement the minsk agreements as they were written or as they were read in kyiv and putin pushes us the occupied territories in the east that will slow down our development with you and put an end to european euro-atlantic integration. and what a disaster . why was this minsk agreement signed or why was this steinmeier formula implemented? it will definitely lead ukrainian statehood to a corner, and i tried to explain to the media all the time the first and second points of view that they simply do not understand what kind of world they live in, the holders
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of the second point of view that putin is going to push something into ukraine tried to explain that russia never gives up his conquests where there is a boot of a russian soldier, he will stand there until the moment you cannot expel this russian soldier or there will be such a difficult situation in his own state that it will not be possible to keep the army in the occupied territories by itself, this the russian soldier will not leave because some international agreements will be fulfilled, it does not happen like this, it has never happened in history, of course, we know of cases when the soviet army left the countries of central europe alone. and it was the soviet army
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the soviet union no longer existed and russia actually paid for the withdrawal of these troops for recognizing itself as an independent state. well, then it had no potential to receive these troops abroad, and this was also an absolutely obvious moment in this history, but from the point of view of the conflict, the russians never break, and that is why i said that there is no need to be afraid of this, that putin perfectly understands that if he really gives up these occupied territories in some way, even under the minsk agreements , even in the event that these areas receive some autonomy as part of ukraine is absolutely incomprehensible even from the point of view of how the minsk agreements were drawn up. taking into account how the ukrainian
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state functions in the kremlin, it is perfectly aware of all the financial flows at the expense of which the local elite were going to make a living. akhmetov , who was, of course, the main entrepreneur and the main investor of this pseudo-autonomous region, and after two years, if you are a year later, russia lost any influence on these territories there again returned to ukrainian television, ukrainian political parties of the elite began to operate, began to run to kyiv for money, many of the representatives of this elite would understand that it is possible to earn money not only in
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these individual districts, but also in the neighborhood. of course, the most odious persons fled to russia, but all the others remained, and the most important thing was that they saw that russia was and left, that you cannot count on it, and ukraine was and returned, so you need to focus on ukraine and it is this mood that the ice usually conveyed to the ordinary population, so that there was no possibility to push and control putin and he was not going to do it. and here we move on to what corresponded to the carriers of the second point of view about giving the donbas to putin and the donbas to putin. it seems to me that it is clear and according to this statement of lavrov, he is not needed from the word at all by himself, of course that these occupied territories in which the russians managed to gain a foothold after our friendly army liberated two
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-thirds of the territory occupied by the russians is a springboard for the next mood for the future offensive and that you can of course give these territories although, as a rule, sovereign states do not give their territories to anyone, but for whom and for what, the question arises in order for these territories to simply become a springboard for the next attack on ukraine, that's how belarus is became a springboard for an attack on ukraine as a result of a series of special operations that vladimir putin conducted after against the belarusian state and dictator during the last years when he was preparing for war against ukraine well, of course, donbass was considered precisely as a bridgehead for the crimea, with all its pseudo-sacredness there for putin, with all these cries , uh, in khersones, with all this comedy that
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putin broke, not together with his other clowns, except that . as you can see, first of all, a bridgehead for aggressive intentions in the black sea and for an attack on ukraine, the russians in general regard the territory exclusively as a military base, and this is not only putin's psychology. i think i recently talked about the last time i was in kaliningrad region of the russian federation to this same kaliningrad region, which is now under the attention of the whole world because the suspension of the transit of goods from the main territory of russia to the territory of the kaliningrad region caused threats from the top representatives of the russian leadership, fearing that there could be a direct conflict between the russian federation and nato member countries in order russia will attack lithuania and although i honestly consider
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this development unlikely of course, made this russian province much more famous than some kurgan region, or was this fact sneaked in there, but i remind you again about the geopolitical position of the kaligra region between poland and lithuania on the baltic coast, and i visited the kaligra region quite often during the period when i worked in russia for various professional purposes reasons. the last time i did not work in russia. i was already in ukraine and used it. it was just interesting to have such an option as the flight of kaliningrad airlines to kaligrad from kyiv was so direct. this company was preparing a flight until i gave it up and i was just interested in flying from kyiv to kaliningrad to this baltic coast. where
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are klaipeda and gdansk near by ? of the best resorts in the kaliningrad region and in the days when it was east prussia, it was one of the most popular resorts for the european aristocracy, including the russian aristocracy, which was not very satisfied with its own resorts, which almost did not exist then and tried to visit this very city, of course. it had a german name at the time on the coast of the baltic sea. when i rented an apartment, the owner of these apartments met me bravely at the airport and we went to svyatogorsk together. well, of course, i told him that. now you see such a wonderful tourism business the region can
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flourish on these flows of tourists, and not only russian ones, but also lithuanian and polish ones, as i want to visit various historical places there related to their regions, also what is it for the host, of course, the person told me, well, tourism is very good, but you understand that the main problem of the region is that we do not have ballistic missiles of nuclear weapons on our territory, and i am surprised. will mean that russia is in a confrontation with its neighbors, your neighbors are members of the european union and nato, your tourist flow will disappear, and even russian tourists will not be able to get to of the kaliningrad region because there will be problems with
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movement . the truth of the conclusions i made that i will get from russian society during these ten years of work in russia, so this whole idea that you can give putin something so that he can get off the hook is absolutely utopian, so that you do not give vladimir putin, he will want more and we are fine we understand that this whole idea of a special operation to help the residents of the so-called donetsk and luhansk people's republics was just a pretext for an attack on ukraine . shot and already taken off the
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rack and held in the hand and of course at any moment from this gun you can ask and what could we do then well it is clear that we must always draw the right conclusions the minsk agreements gave us time not for rest and not for theirs performance i always said that the minsk agreements are a trap, a trap for russia, so that the european union does not lift sanctions against it, and russia itself cannot take any forceful action, and the time until russia does not take forceful action should be used for one thing to prepare for war after 2014, the entire ukrainian state was supposed to turn into a mobilization camp, the main
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expenses were to be and not be reduced for the armed forces, the main purchases for the armed forces in certain regions of ukraine were not to build roads . in 2019, live in the program of a major dismantling so that they do not pass, but public attitudes were quite different from understanding this simple truth, people did not want to realize that they are doomed to become citizens of a country that will be destroyed, that thousands of people will lose their lives, the prospect of opportunities to live in their homes or millions will leave ukraine, although all this was on the surface and it was not even necessary to have great
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analytical skills to see it after 2014 , i agree that by 2014 a huge number of people without political and star-minded communities could live in the illusion of utopia, if only because for a huge number of our compatriots, for whom russia has always been a reference point, a center of civilization and a myth from the tv series oh, how well they live, how well they live. they live so well that toilets are torn out of their homes to send it to my mother so that when i walk, it was an absolute utopia, all those who warned about the possibility of such a military clash considered it just marginal, but the year 2014 came, the war was a violation of international law, an effort delegitimize the ukrainian leadership, millions
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of internally displaced people, millions from the donetsk luhansk regions of crimea, the destruction of enterprises, the creation of consultation camps on the territory of the occupied regions, concentration camps, isolation, constant repression in crimea and donbas . if you want to enlarge the picture to this territory , then realize that whatever happens in crimea and donbas, it will be everywhere the russians go, but no, no people
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they reassured themselves by the fact that there are such regions, there are some special ones, people live there with political views and if the population has a different attitude , then the russians will not go there. a certain number of people or those who can support the regime, but who will succeed in using the regular army, then absolutely no one is interested in our mood when tanks are working, some of them killed others, intimidated the third, imprisoned the fourth, expelled even if there are a lot of them, you already know that the
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occupation administrations in the territory of the kherson logo and zaporizhzhia regions of ukraine are going to expel people who have pro-ukrainian views, obviously they think that there will not be enough for everyone in prison and these are not just people who have pro- ukrainian views. and these are people who do not report on people who have a ukrainian view and are also going to expel them from these regions together with their family members. and what is new in this, one asks, because in the baltic countries in 1940 or in the western lands of ukraine in 1939-1945, they were also expelled in the same way only to siberia, the families were simply considered. by definition, they may not be loyal to the new regime, this is a common russian practice
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that can be talked about for years, so this statement by lavrov about geographical borders does not surprise me very much, i think that they are capable of expanding these geographical borders to the border of the whole of ukraine if there is such a desire, then it is quite an important point, what do you want ? this is putin's statement that he is not going to meet with zelenskyi, that the ukrainians themselves are not fulfilling the agreements that would have been i will achieve this in istanbul, what is he talking about with them then, why is this statement important to me? because putin
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is now trying to pretend that the withdrawal of troops from the territory of the north of our country was not the result of the fact that russia simply had nothing to do in these regions, it did not have enough strength for the occupation of everything, but with an act of goodwill, like with the island of zmiiny, you understand, no. we were forced to leave, but we did show an act of goodwill. the act of goodwill consists in the fact that russia withdrew its troops from under kiev-chernigov and soup because of something there with ukraine agreed. it was interesting to find out what the ukrainians did not implement such openings. of course, this is an absolute lie. we understand very well that the russians realized the impossibility of capturing the ukrainian
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capital, and in this situation, keeping such a large number of forces in the north meant not fulfilling the propaganda goal, so to speak, of this special operation to capture luhansk and donetsk oblast. how do you see that this goal is being achieved by the russians with a huge problem, even today there are still several settlements on the territory of luhansk oblast or is controlled by ukrainian troops, it has been passed since last year, and there is no question of control by the russians over the entire territory of donetsk region, so far i do not rule out. of course, once i do not start their offensive in donetsk region, they have a chance to capture some more settlements in donetsk region but i remind you again that we are approaching the 150th day of the war going on in our country
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, and this is also a very important moment that needs to be said, so if putin loses some more ukrainian regions, i do not rule out that he will too. to say that this is an act of goodwill, that in fact the troops were here and there only to divert the attention of ukrainians from this or that region, which is really important, and in this sense, of course, we should be aware that we should not be afraid of defeating the russians and we should not be afraid of putin's face as the
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president of france, emmanuel macron, and other western politicians have repeatedly said that vladimir putin should be given the opportunity to save face, so as we can see, putin absolutely calmly saves his face without extra efforts on the part of western politicians or someone putin will always be able to and here i absolutely agree with the historian of this moment snyder pass off any defeat to the russians as a victory, they will be sure that this is how it should have been that this is such a military trick, a military secret that could not be told enemy, i will remind you that in the most famous soviet children's tales about boys, boys, boys, boys , balchish, heine is tortured by the bourgeois because
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he did not want to reveal a military secret, they interrogated him, interrogated him, tortured him, and the boy-kibalchish never said anything to anya for the jam, ani made some money for m-m, no, none of this happened, so the idea of all this was that the boy-kibalchish did not know this military secret. he did not know what to tell him because he did not i read the last issue of pravda newspaper and they didn't tell in the fairy tale
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yet. what is this so incredible ? the secret that they told the bourgeois boy, because it obviously just didn't exist, and here , too, russian boys will believe in any blizzard that this madman will bring. i have a few minutes left to answer the question that came from alina kruletska, how safe is the decision regarding the export of grain to the black sea water area for ukraine ?
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