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it is a critical and difficult task, but i will repeat , according to my estimates, it is unlikely that in the near future we will bet on any type of foreign aircraft, of course, above all, we will use the potential that we have today and to use the shock potential of the heimers, which in principle are capable of performing the functions acceptable for attack aircraft , so the increase in the number of shells for the farmer can compensate for the stops, brother sturmovkind. thank you, mr. serhiy serhiy zgurets, a military expert defect express well, that's the end of this information hour and we're going to the all-ukrainian minute of silence, actually we honor the memory of those who died in this war, we honor
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the memory of the ukrainian military and peaceful citizens of ukraine who died in the war that was unleashed by russia with a moment of silence, we we are looking for 17-year-old elizaveta aloshyna, about whose fate
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for almost three months nothing is known. the girl lived in kropivnytsia, but for the duration of distance learning she moved to her grandmother in the city of liman , this is an acting district of the donetsk region. the first two during the months of the war, it was more or less calm there, and elizaveta even regularly joined online broadcasts for training. the last contact was on april 25, and it was on this day that she told very disturbing news. she said that enemy shells had started flying over their house and she was very scared. and the very next day, the connection with the girl was cut off, and to this day there is no news from her, the city of lyman is now occupied by the rashists, and she assumes that they can deliberately jam the connection there, perhaps that is why elizaveta cannot call or write to anyone so i am asking especially the residents of the kramatorsk district, who may see me now, look carefully at the photo of the girl. she wears glasses,
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she has dark eyes and short dark hair. elizaveta is thin, her height is approximately 160 cm. if anyone has seen the girl after april 25, or does anyone know where she might be do not delay, dial the short number of the magnolia child tracing service from any mobile operator 116,000,000 calls to the hotline for free or write another one to the chat bot of the child tracing service in telegram the story of the disappearance of children this time in the kharkiv region. i have already told in previous programs it is about 13-year-old melania chumak and her sixteen-year-old brother ivan. they are being searched for by their mother, who has not heard from her little one for more than a month and does not know what happened to the children. they divorced and have been living separately for a long time, the mother lives in poltava region, and the father lives in kharkiv region, when the war started, the children were with him. here in this small
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village of lisna stinka, it is the kupyan district of the region, which was occupied in the early days of a full-scale invasion of russia, they are now fully occupied, there is currently no possibility to conduct evacuation reports, it is too dangerous to have children, she said that melania and ivan called periodically, the last time the woman spoke with them was on may 19 at eight in the morning, she says that they talked for 10 minutes and everything was more or less okay a then after may 15, the connection with the children suddenly disappeared. just imagine how it is for a mother not to know what's wrong with your little one, where she is now or what's wrong with her. okay, aren't the children sitting in the basement under fire, or are they elementary security, the answers to these questions helped a lot in that i turned to the residents of the kupyan district of kharkiv region, in particular, to tell them about the situation in the region. and then i received feedback from the chatbot service for searching for children. a
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woman who very recently managed to leave there wrote to us in a telegram. knows about the situation in the occupied area, of course i called back and received very encouraging information, the wall is a very familiar region for me. there is no shelling there, it is just an occupation there, and i think that there is simply no communication there, they have intercepted the communication, uh, since march, the communication there is very bad and breaks through very rarely, and that is why i would like maybe this information will calm down more to a mother who is looking for children, there are problems with communication, and i think this information can at least calm them down a little, but there are problems with communication, maybe that's why the mother can't call the children. thank you for the information, but of course i want more specifics , so i'm asking very much residents of the occupied forest wall
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and the surrounding villages where they can see me now , take a close look at the photo melania chumak, 13, looks her age, she has dark eyes and light blond hair, ivan has dark eyes and blond hair and looks 16-17 years old, the children live in the village of lisna wall, lisna street, building 5, if someone can visit them and check if everything is ok with them, or if someone has seen them, call us at the magnolia children's search service at the short number 116 000 000 from any mobile phone, the calls are free or write to the chatbot service looking for children in telegram, at least a little news that everything is fine with melania and ivan will calm their mother down a lot
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if it puts you in an uncomfortable position with you, we will talk with political scientists and internationalists about current events related to the war in ukraine and not only evgeny magde, the director of the institute of world politics, is with us in connection with what is already vat. glory to ukraine, what will we hope for? join volodymyr volya, a political scientist, for now, let's start then, if you don't mind, from yesterday's fresh event, everyone is discussing what is or isn't president zelenskyi's decree on the deprivation of
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citizenship, everyone is already discussing the question of whether the president has the right to do this, who was affected by it or angry about it, or vice versa happy, for example , kolomoisky. in short, as usual in ukraine, there are already a million different conspiracy theories, and i must say honestly, i will fuel them first of all by the office of the president, who simply took a tactical but not there is a timed pause and they are just silent, there is no such decree, what is going on, but what its consequences are, we know at least from yesterday's event of gennady korban, who, by the way, is also the head of the territorial defense of dnipropetrovsk yesterday , they were not allowed to enter ukraine. he was somewhere abroad, he probably heard that's all he wanted to come and his passport was also taken away from him, he doesn't remember that it all ended there, this is the story, the ukrainian truth reports babel and refers to korban's lawyer and the spokesman of the state border service, this is a complex and complex story. let's try it
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let's figure it out. so, are they depriving citizenship and what is behind all this? let's try, well, in that photocopy of the decree, which has been on the internet for the third day, there are several surnames, there are people who were born in ukraine and people who, in principle, could later acquire ukrainian citizenship. in any case, it is impossible to deprive a person who was born on the territory of ukraine of the citizenship of ukraine, there can be no doubts here, you can litter the entire information space with various copies of israeli and other passports, i do not know but if we for a long time, we have been working to ensure that the ukrainian passport was high in the world, he was in
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high positions, then the question arises. well, how then and what? and what are the possibilities in this case, to be honest, i don’t quite understand. but now i see these shots, i shared it myself yesterday to his telegram channel, but the question is, well, it's good that gennady korban's passport was taken away. well, that is, he is now doomed to live in the neutral zone between ukraine and poland, well, he can't enter poland properly because he's from there. that's right well, that is, this reminds me of, you know, the situation, and well, i didn’t watch the terminal, but i just know, i don’t know the plot so much, but about the extraordinary adventures of italians in russia. when one of the competitors’ passport was taken away and thrown away, he flew between moscow and rome seem to be one and the
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same, well, the situation is actually tragicomic and uh, that is, i see, you know, uh, such an interesting combinatorics, well, two people's deputies , igor vasylkovsky and vadym rabynovych vasylkovsky, were deprived of a servant of the people, that is, then well, i don't know how they think in the president's office, but when it starts that one deputy goes over to the side of the russians, the other turns out to have dual citizenship there, well, obviously, once he was caught, er, ukrainian citizenship, the question arises for the servant of the people party about volodymyr benovych in a few i think i will remember that he actually, despite the fact that he was quite an active figure in ukrainian politics from the mid-90s of the 20th century, but he
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received ukrainian citizenship during the presidency of viktoria yanukovych and that this is also an interesting fact, the truth is absolutely why, but uh, there is another discussion about ihor kolomoiskyi, is it true that he will not be a citizen of ukraine, is he subject to the laws of de-oligarchization or not, and that too? well, you see, we can ask each other a lot of questions now we can actively discuss them and create some assumptions, but there is one very important and interesting in my opinion moment and then what, that is, how should an average citizen react to the fact that the head of territorial defense dnipro is the place of a millionaire, which is sheltered close to the front line, and is really a hub for providing our troops and defense forces in the
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donetsk region, in the luhansk region, he is deprived of the right to enter ukraine. that is, well, it raises the fighting spirit of our defenders or something let's also include volodymyr will, a political scientist-internationalist, in our conversation. good day, volodymyr. good day. good health. i hear we are talking about the possible deprivation of citizenship of some ukrainian citizens, for example, the leader teroborony e dnipro korban a-a m-m businessman kolomoiskyi m-m what do you think about this matter, what are the political consequences of such a decision if it really is here a very difficult situation that the powerful decisions launched because in reality you
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cannot deprive anyone of citizenship in this way who, yes, without a court decision, what is the basis, just by a single law, or what was simply taken away in e-e? it turns out that, at least from what korban tells us, that his passport was taken away. of citizenship, if this is how the procedure for revocation of citizenship is implemented, then i don’t know what kind of complete legal arbitrariness this is. and in general, it should not be done this way. moreover, the question of housing here is that what for the fact that they were not in the territory of ukraine for a certain time can people are cunning, clever , it's like that. everything can be. yes, but still, there must be some procedures that correspond to basic values . if there are complaints against a person, then again,
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they cannot simply be deprived of their citizenship on the basis that someone does not like them. right? i spent some time in ukraine. well, with such success, you understand, you can theoretically hold the next elections there. i theorize like this, and for example, all citizens who did not vote for you should be deprived of their citizenship. uh, big uh, that is, they are in power for a second term , they are not re-elected, so they can really do that. while they are exercising their powers, they deprive half of the citizens of the uh country for not voting, if you could follow it up who voted for the law, and i think that this is some kind of strange situation, because there is a basic value, that, that, all the more, i will buy it if a person has another
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citizenship. yes, they can't be deprived of their citizenship just like that, they can be arrested, and i don't know if they can to fine him, what else to deprive him of the right to live in his homeland well, we don't have political expulsion, you understand, you know well, gennadiy korban himself, at least there are uh-uh versions of what this could be connected with, i have two, that 's what he he met victoria the day before sparza, an american congresswoman, who we know spoke very critically against yarmak, the head of the president's office, or whether the influence of the president's office is constantly increasing, as we can see, and the second reason is what they say about the fact that korban is close or let's say so, there is a good relationship with yurii butus
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, another irreconcilable such a critic, quite tough, a well-known journalist and a critic of the president's office very often. that is, what would it mean if it really was the cause of these troubles, korban encountered someone now on the border yevgeny, i am asking yevhen magnut whether or not it meant that if it really was the cause of what happened now with the korban, i understood, i don’t like conspiracy versions, to be honest, and i think that it just might be contained here. no, that’s not all. this is the executor. i don't believe in the excess of the executor. i don't even believe that this decree was not issued with an eye on information about korban's stay abroad
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, that is, here it is a fairly obvious process. well, why , why? korban is far from an angel. this is absolutely it is clear, that is, anyone who can google there can kill gennady korban, he can quickly get a large amount of information about his various affairs, but he is still in the dnipro today. they are working on the defense capability of ukraine. about kolomoiskyi at 22 kolomoiskyi just now you can't hear him, you can't see him, he just fell for a league to the bottom from the first days of the war, this is what we can state, well, there was a small piece of video, yes, kolomoiskyi in bukovel with good girls there, well, it’s not a sin even during the war, but the question of contribution to
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defense capability just arises. and why didn’t kolomoisky completely fall out of the information space? 36.6 at the exchange rate of the hryvnia to the dollar, so i would not say that it has completely disappeared . only to ordinary citizens here, well, here, i think this office relies on er, the only marathon on the fact that everyone in a together we will complain as it should, but also to the expert environment, to be honest, it is difficult for me to understand this logic, that is, well, we can only be
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happy that the border was not sewn of the council of states, but who knows what will happen next? well, if mr. volodymyr wants to add something, then we give such an opportunity or move on to the next topic. well, for me, this strange situation is very strange . the reasons are some kind of story that can have a certain continuation. it is unpleasant from the point of view that the basic values ​​of the european union are being violated in our country. i know who thought of doing this well, like all of us, we hope that the whole pause will be interrupted and the president's office will bring clarity to this situation, let's move on then yes. true, there is another
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hot topic that we would like to discuss with you. er, the fact that ukraine, turkey, russia and he signed a joint grain agreement, your opinion on this matter, i will add some information, russia has pledged not to attack merchant boats that will transport grain from ukrainian portraits and will not fire on ukrainian port buildings from which it will be shipped, this is about it in the agreement between ukraine and russia and turkey and the un as concluded yesterday in istanbul and also signed by the representative of the united nations, there will also be no demining of the territorial waters of ukraine since it can last quite a long time, instead , ukrainian pilots will guide boats through safe corridors of the agreement for 120 days with the possibility of extension and it will be extended to the ports of odessa, the
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black sea and the south. opinion, pitfalls, stones, and , actually, did we have any gains from such an agreement , yevgeny, let's start with you, the first obvious advantage is that what was signed under the mirror agreements , that is, the representatives of russia and ukraine did not put signature under one document, that is, there will be less reason to talk about the betrayal of national interests ; secondly, i personally feel a little refueling of ukrainian subjectivity in the process of preparing and signing this group, and i have the feeling that our western partners have pressed ukraine a little in this matter, i will explain why the grain it should be taken out of ukrainian ports, it no longer belongs to ukrainian farmers
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. well, it has already been bought by global grain traders and they will continue to work with it, that is, the problem of possible famine in africa and other countries in the middle in the east, that is, where are our traditional suppliers , as of today, it is not a ukrainian problem in my opinion, but instead, russia got such an interesting moment. they buy it well, let's say to egypt against the background of information messages that will be inspired by russia, but why do you have these problems with ukrainian grain when you can buy russian grain, it's no secret what kind of production volume
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grains, russia dominates ukraine, and i think it will use the opportunities as actively as possible. i think that this agreement is the main pitfall under it is how it will be implemented. no one can say this for sure. they will not fire at odesa well, well, today more than 10 rockets arrived in kropyvnytskyi in front of the place of kropyvnytskyi, i.e. no one is saying that russia is stopping any hostilities, it’s true and accordingly, i think that russia will use it in its own interests maximally intensively, so far i have a question , so intensively and qualitatively, she will be able to use it in ukraine's own interests, how will she be able to communicate about the signing of this weather with our partners with our, well, with our promising partners in the middle east and in africa, that we will
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be able to show there that i am continuation of the topic, er, from viktor bondarenko, a political expert, er, said that we need to pay close attention to what is happening in istanbul, because he figuratively said that it was someone there, that is, it is possible there. now we we can see the following addresses of the future hmm agreement between ukraine and russia on a cease-fire, this one is leaking, this is his warning, where formally it will also be some kind of mirror agreements that putin will not sign and zelensky will personally sign, nevertheless, they will record some kind of something some kind of cessation of active hostilities - this is his opinion, we can possibly react to this as well, well, regarding the agreement, they are not perfect. rather, they are not ideal, but from the point of view of the context of a full-scale war, then
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in general, this is the optimal option, the optimal opportunity, because ukraine gets the opportunity to unload its capacity to remove the old grain, firstly, it does not matter who owns it. now , secondly, we are making an important moment not only for ourselves in this matter, but also for our international partners, at the expense of whom we now live with the financial aid of the military, because if millions of starving africans flow to europe, it will cause a wave and shaking of governments and destabilization of the social situation, which is already is because of putin's war and including because of the sanctions that our partners introduced for that. so, on the one hand, we have some certain
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risks, because it is not known what will happen. exit from this agreement and fire. but i think that this is the best option is that foreign representatives in ukrainian territorial waters will not act and there will be no total demining of ukrainian waters, there will be some corridors through which ukrainian monitoring groups. it is very good that there are representatives of registration in this center coordination in istanbul, we need some russian saboteurs and a lot of things that are in ukraine because of this care, and there in the agreement it is written, among other things, that the staff is not part- time, and people who do not belong to the staff, to a certain extent, you can say that er russia thus refuses for the coming months to
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use its er fleet to attack er it will continue to be unknown er there is no connection between this grain corridor and the situation on the er fronts land because really for that to hold certain things, if it is not a large-scale offensive and russia has the resources for such an offensive, the russian fleet is needed in the waters of the northwestern black sea, they can do it from the crimea or even further from novorossiysk, so at least we can say that the russian the fleet will not be in the water area for a certain period of time. yes, is a truce possible? i think a truce is impossible
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. transferred no, turkey even introduced sanctions against russia, and i mean those western partners who have given us a lot of help and who are determined to provide this help to you until russia loses without connection, the united states, germany , great britain, e.e. france and many other e.e. countries it is clear. the opinion is clear. thank you very much yevhen magda volodymyr volya, you were our interlocutors today. thank you very much, gentlemen, for participating in our program. we will continue to discuss the economic and military aspects, which the political scientists also talked to us about a little, nevertheless andriy zhezhenko, an expert at the center for defense strategies , captain of the first rank, is with us on good morning
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