tv [untitled] July 23, 2022 9:30am-10:01am EEST
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other moments, yes, is a truce possible? i think that a truce is impossible. referring to those western partners who have given us a lot of help and who are determined to provide this help to you until russia loses without the united states , germany, great britain, e.e., france and many other e.e. countries clearly understood the point, thank you very yevhen magda volodymyr volya uh, today were our interlocutors thank you very much, gentlemen, for participating in our program, we will continue to discuss the economic and military aspects,
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which political scientists talked to us about a little , nevertheless andriy zhezhenko, an expert at the center for defense strategies, a captain of the first rank with us on communication and good morning, we congratulate you, mr. andriy, so let's wait a little , volodymyr volya, ah, the previous guest talked about the military aspects of this country, in your opinion, what about this agreement, which one the agreements that were signed sooner than ukraine, turkey, russia, the un, and whether these agreements can make us more vulnerable in the military
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. my view is such a visual that there was a serious danger, i did not see it, because there are many rumors at the stage, which means negotiations, especially this concerned the fact that the russians can enter our territory, that they will force us to completely clear our er, defensive mine formations and so on, there is nothing to the agreement, and the agreement is based on the requirements of international maritime law, this is the un convention of the year 82, which is the law in ukraine and in russia , and in principle, turkey is quite creative, let's say, approached in order for this site to be found, although i want to remind you that this convention does not apply in conditions of war, although this one
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is different. allows turkey, in general, to apply the convention on international law of the sea, because it is an effective mechanism for evaluating various such disputed points at sea and resolving them in accordance with the agreement, what we have now, what is in the mass media, everything that takes place in the territorial waters of ukraine - this is a matter of ukraine . examination of the underwater part of these formats and
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if mines are found there, then they will be removed, i can say for sure that the navy of ukraine at the beginning of the hostilities, when we were carrying out exactly these mine laying, they were on the fairways, there were no mines, mines were placed where it was possible to land an amphibious assault a ship is not landed in a battleship, it can be loaded there, but if we are talking about a classic amphibious assault, for example, 8-10 large russian amphibious ships are involved, for this you need a section of the coast of the order of 2-3 km and it is carried out completely according to combat there from that way the landing. that is, it is not a book, a conversation of proportions is not conducted. that is, we are responsible for this format. i understand that first it is about chornomorsk, then odesa, and then pivdenny
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to ensure that there is no. well, it can be done. maybe we have such units. and maybe there are not many of them there, but they are there, and secondly, my friend, if someone has any questions about whether there is any dangerous cargo or bitase on board the ship, then it is possible to inspect it in the ports of turkey when a ship approaches the bosphorus, this is also quite impossible according to the convention of international maritime law, and the real challenges remain the passage of ships through the so-called international waters, international waters are everything that is outside the territorial waters, so here there is really a challenge that russia simply can "find out your weapon, how it did at the beginning of the aggression, it could be a missile strike, it could be
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torpedo strikes, it could be a hidden laying of mines along the transition route, it could be an aviation strike er, it means that all these capabilities in russia are now the only guarantor, well, let's say political will, which was somehow formed under the pressure of turkey and the organization of the united nations, mr. volodymyr, let's add to our conversation roman slastion, the general director of the ukrainian club of agrarian business, he is already with us on dear a. p. roman, we welcome you, we would like to ask about the economic aspect, that's mr. andriyem, they talked about the military aspect. and how do you evaluate the actual agreement from an economic point of view, which agreements did you sign? russia, ukraine, turkey and the un, well, this is actually a very important step for the agricultural sector of ukraine. well, not
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only for the sector, but for other industries and citizens who depend in terms of income from e-e on the agrarian itself. the fact is that e-e, we have huge volumes i.e. 20 million tons of grain and oilseeds from last year, which are subject to export, plus this year's impressive 70 million tons of grain and oilseeds. well, we now see a total of 90 million tons of grain, let's say, last year and this year for domestic consumption, we need about 20 , that is, about 70 million, this is what we should export within the next 12 months, we understand that it is about 6 million per month, we need to export in order to plus or minus normally work to ensure the sector without sea routes managed to achieve banks, 2 million tons. well,
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maybe in july they could reach 2.5, but this is really such a ceiling for the capacity of the railway, cars and river ports of the danube that it would be very difficult to increase anything else. well, at least three ports in the odesa region are opening, they are one of the key ones and before the war provided about two-thirds of the total export of grain, in principle, potentially up to 4 million tons per month. we will be able to export . in other alternative ways, railways , cars and river ports of the danube, they will be able to provide the volumes that the sector needs in order to work further, in order to carry out the method of winter crops in order to calculate and pay wages to employees in order to
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pay rent to the owners of land shares , and we have about 7 million citizens of ukraine who actually receive a theoretical salary for them, this is a very significant part of their income. figures that this will allow there 2 million tons per month 3 million tons per month 5 million tons per month zelenskyi also says that we have a total of 10 billion dollars in reserves, again they say that this will allow us to attract one billion dollars each on the moon, the sun, which of the numbers is the closest to reality in your opinion? they reflect the picture , but from different sides, 20 million, that's it, and with
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figures that agree. all of them are practically based on the remains of last year, which are subject to export, and 70 million tons - this is the forecast for this year's grain and oil crops, in principle, also gives an estimate as the ministry of agrarian policy and other analysts on the market a-a 2 million tons is what we managed to achieve now by alternative ways not by sea actually railway cars and river ports eh dunaks of this it is not enough because if we calculate what we need to export during the next there well we actually have an export potential of 70 million, so if we divide it by the two million tons per month that we have now without sea ports , then for the next three years we will export what we have, well, since last year, well, and collected during this year, in fact, you can really
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harvest and not do anything else, you just exported three years ahead, but we understand that then there will be no sowing of winter crops this year, because everything needs to be sown from september and of course there will be no sowing in the spring at 23 year, and these are huge problems that are laid for the future for ukraine, because the agricultural sector will actually stop, we will have millions and millions of hectares of fields simply not sown and, accordingly, there will be no sleep. no wages, no also, on these fields, it is obvious that the producers will not be able to pay the rent to the people. in addition, we are laying huge problems in the global food security for the next year. that is, we are only deepening the problems that we have now, and here they have the opening of ports, which is very, very important. in this context, of course, this is the first step, we are currently
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thinking a lot about how security will be ensured, and whether the court will go to the actual ports, because the ship is mostly foreign, so it is loaded and sent products, how will the process be adjusted? of course, it will be needed for a certain time. well, it is possible there for a month, maybe up to two, in order to reach certain volumes of 4 million tons per month through these ports. this is the potential, how much it will be realized. it will really depend on the number of ships that will enter . will be ready to enter our apartments, and as much as they can be ready to enter, considering that the sea will not be demined separately. want to risk er, including the lives of their er employees and their ships, there
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may be certain seafarers, but nevertheless, er, the first to leave the ports will most likely be those ships that were stuck there at the beginning of the full-scale war. that is, there are several ships actually in ports e for which the situation will not become more dangerous if they start leaving, and again, before leaving, there is an understanding that these corridors will be inspected and these ships will also leave accompanied by the same men of herbivores and other vessels that, let's say, will provide them with safe passage along this corridor, thank you, thank you, mr. roman, but the first swallows, and then i think that other things will catch up , because even there without insurance, many ships and cargo enter our danube river ports from
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romania with from other countries, everyone said that they would not come without insurance, however, reality says the opposite. and what do you think about this , well, first of all? well, in principle, if there are no new provocations from the russian federation, then it is possible to provide this sea corridor, which means it is possible to provide here it is also possible which route will be chosen for the passage of these vessels, it is possible to choose it through the central part of the black sea , it is possible to choose it through the territorial waters of the countries on the coast of the western part of the black sea, this is romania, bulgaria and turkey a- and then the position of turkey is important, because we know that in principle the initiative well, this is precisely the agreement, it was
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on turkey's behalf precisely because of the fact that well, in principle , turkey blocked, let's say, the increased role of nato in the black sea region, they are the first, as they say, it is the black sea, where are the black sea countries, and here for them is really such a decisive moment in order to show that the black sea countries are capable of doing something, you see, i think that they will approach this quite seriously and e- well, we see that president rodogan was personally present at the signing of these two. wow, that says a lot. i think there is some element of geopolitical influence of turkey on russia on russia. it still exists. so here is a very, very serious question, again, if not there will be new provocations, there will be no shelling, then, in principle, everything is functioning as i just
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told my colleagues, and secondly, the conclusion for ukraine is that the maritime economy is very important for ukraine and it is necessary to invest in its security in the plan for the development of the naval forces there parts of the state border service, because we see that practically from the first day, well, only by a show of force and separately by strikes, the russians completely blocked our maritime economy. and this is a very serious lesson, and i think that we have prospects not only in the delivery of grain. although this is a very serious position of filling the state budget, but also the development of, for example, livestock, not minerals on our shelf, and the mask economy can give a lot of profit. the economy of ukraine must be protected, this is a very serious lesson, and i think that we will not draw
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the appropriate conclusions, thank you both to our experts, and andriy ryzhenko, expert center of defense strategy, captain of the first rank of the reserve was with us , and roman slastion, general director of the ukrainian of the agra business club thank you very much, gentlemen, we are moving on and now we will talk a little about how moldova reacted to transnistria's declared unrecognized plans to join the russian federation of this exclave as it should look like this in the future, our head of the gur, the main development department, kyrylo budanov, on the other hand, said that ukraine can help moldova if it finally decides to deal with the russian contingent in the transnistrian territories. there are a lot of ethnic ukrainians living there maybe they already masked the guy there, it's not terrible, but maybe there are still some er, some component that can be worked with, probably, that too, for sure, we can
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talk about it, by the way, with roman, er, in syroman, is he a member of the national of the congress of ukrainians of moldova a-a, i will add a little more information a-a so the so-called transnistrian moldavian republic a wants to become independent and later join russia. of course, the so-called minister of foreign affairs of the self-proclaimed the formation of vitaly ignatius, according to him, is an unconditional priority for his formation and all international legal arguments have long been formed out in moscow until such a statement has not been commented on. and by the way, yesterday the authorities of moldova did not let the officers of the so -called operational group of russian troops into the territory of transnistria, according to him, they are in transnistria illegally and thereby violate moldova's commitment to the fact that we
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today they said about the khymers, russian statements were all different, then the information was bent from this, then the kostya gauleiters, so appointed, er, kherson, who said that kherson was fired upon again from the khymers, i already did, you have already destroyed all of them, and there was a message yesterday from the ministry of defense, which i did not have time to read or what am i saying again himerson, they teach and beat and everything a-a we already have poor occupiers, roman rusu, a member of the bordo national congress of ukrainians of moldova, they are joining us, roman, good day to you, actually, mr. roman, how did you meet the statements in moldova? the leaders of transnistria, or this russian enclave, or how to make it faster, and that they want to call on russia to take them, er, to include them as part of the russian federation, well, in the pocket, this
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was met quite calmly, that is, the reintegration bureau appeared that, well, he had set up if this is nonsense, well , first of all, no one called it because it came already in 1992. you say that their goal is independence, then annexation to russia. in the sixth year, they even conducted a reference on this topic and are still against the so-called unification of legislation. told the local legislation with the russian, i.e. devices, the russian flag e-e is considered national as well as the flag of the so-called state, i.e. in the condition of legislation, although the same time recently after became very active, i.e. the day before or before that during the meeting with the representatives of the russian children's missions, the local so-called president krasetskyi stated that others he wants the representatives of the 5 + 2 format to sign some security guarantees for transnistria, which should have surprised everyone, little surprised everyone
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what has been tense recently, as in transnistria after the provocation in may, and in general with the test of 508 republics, this is also alkaline minuses that are being asked for in moldova for july 126 * trainings were in the country, this is also a state operation of facilities structures well, and to all the writing about the situation about the russian forces in the country itself, kyrylo vodanov, the head of the ukrainian intelligence service, said that ukraine would be ready to help moldova get rid of the occupiers. the position on the issue of integration is very different, only peaceful integration, that is, the proposals of mr. bukov in the pockets are not even officially considered reintegration of the region only through peaceful means through
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diplomacy with the support of development partners a-a p romanov in general well, as far as i remember, it is precisely if we talk about ethnic composition of transnistria it is quite varied, however, there is a huge component of ukrainian origin of people with ukrainian surnames, do these people still have some kind of connection mental cultural uh-uh i don't know language with e-e ukraine and whether they are, can be , or do they sympathize with ukraine, or are these people who should be the objects of ukraine's attention, including me as some kind of less ukrainian well, in your opinion, i would somehow not for this constituent part society, because it is necessary to understand that transnistria again from the second years, and even earlier, was under the e-e information in russia. that is, they are given the same news that is given to russia itself, that is, they are also affected by russian
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propaganda. what are the citizens of russia in russia itself, that is, to market somehow that these people somehow commitment to ukraine or three countries. i would not count on it, that is, consider that any efforts actually to have some influence on the soft power of the cultural power of ukraine of transnistria are possible early prospects, after all, does it make sense cultural societies i would say very, very long-term and prospects if this work started itself and was carried out very actively to get that we will be the spodov machine of russia er-e regarding cultural associations, they are canceled only for cultural er-e peace events, then only there songs kitchens and so on, that is, some political statements . they will not be possible because of the good many, secondly
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because the local bodies of the so-called kgb will simply come for them. and what are the needs now then in such a case of the ukrainian community in moldova. what is happening in it, how does it live, or all ukrainians, uh, who are part of it, to ukrainian associations, so in moldova , for example, do they support ukraine in this war, are there any pro-russian sentiments in it, do they fully support ukraine and the entire war? days joined the support of ukrainian businesses that were breaking through in moldova, we send humanitarian aid to ukraine, e-e also, the majority of the heads of organizations that exist in moldova, the ukrainian landlord, also speaks for the support of ukraine and against russia's aggression against ukraine, who is it for ordinary citizens of ukraine, passing through here again must always be remembered that young people are also on plus very strongly informed by the influence of e.e.
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russian propaganda and recently the e regions where the majority of ukrainians are such a basis is also the electoral base for pro-russian parties, for example, there are a lot of ukrainians in the dushansky okhtyn district, because it is right on the border with ukraine, and it was there that in the last elections, on a number of branches, these were regions, a lot of people voted for russian parties, so if we talk about needs and what is needed in ukraine, er, it is still an informational more than an official presence in moldova, after all, about meeting the local population of ukrainian origin, after all, there are more chances here, for example with the fact that transnistria, because the ukrainians still have literature here, as well as the moldovan mass media, and uh, more independence is mine, that is, there is still a chance to start, especially agreed upon, but i am still ready to ask uh, some questions and i don't always agree to the fact that they are given russian tv
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again, it is very necessary to do a lot of work in this direction well, and if we talk about the pro-russian mood in moldova in general, they of course remain a very important factor and now here is actually the factor of the russian language of russian the information war, which apparently also did not stop on the territory of moldova, how important is it, how much is the current government, in particular, the current government, do they understand these risks and what can they oppose to it? the rise in prices and the decline in the level of welfare of citizens, i.e., lately , it has come out of this, well, this field, rather, after two or a year ago, in these dreams, i was
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asked to play this card, but i did not react to it then, that is, after my youth, after all i am more interested in such, let's say, household issues, that is, now uh, it concentrates on this. propaganda is the only horse element - this is again the issue of diguzs of a narrow ethnic group of the buska autonomy, because he himself has dissolved these facts that well, more autonomy so that universities are not asked when they want . they want the european union, although they held their own referendum and so on, that is, if the composition was propaganda, it works more for the fall, uh, in a larger general context, as i said again, the language came out of this context, so here we are now you don't appear so much, uh, weight is more, after all, constructed precisely on combat issues, prices , salaries, pensions, that is, they drink on that. well , zelensky signed, in particular, laws that provide certain uh advantages for the citizens of poland and
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considering the fact that well poles, despite the fact that we have a very complicated history, ukrainians and poles, and but we also have, uh, well, we have a great deal of elation, in particular, relations, and the poles rightly believe that they can be useful as such certain well, i will not ride mentors or mentors but nevertheless, people who have gone through a path in which they can help ukraine on the way to the european union, and it seems to me that a mirror but even a much stronger example is the relationship between our own romania and moldova where where where the language is actually identical. if i'm not mistaken, i haven't signed a second reading about the same thing. are there any similar stories in moldova, that is, how active is romania now? not uh
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young, no, moldovan, these are people from, for example, a different origin, for example, the same ukrainian or russian-speaking community, we have three minutes to answer well, first of all, we help romania a lot with long european money, it is the main burden of the young european union of the 42nd so yes, for example, in the same industry, we very often see the question that the romanians want to take it over. well, the messages there, for example, in may, didn’t they work even from moscow? that is, dmytro medvedeev and other osokorpudosov spoke about it, russian , that is, this element exists. well, it’s resna, etc., in fact, romania helps moldova a lot in its reforms to increase its and energy
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independence, the possibility of the transfer of gas to moldova through romania, that is, for romania to supply gas and possibly even part of the electricity to moldova to get rid of it depends on russian energy , and thank you for your answer, roman rusochlenbordu of the national congress of ukrainians of moldova was with us a little bit. well, he gave the same broad picture of what is actually happening now to the autumn dynamo of the country, which together with us claims to join the european union soon. wounded as a result of today's shelling of the kirovohrad region, the regional administration says that 13 missiles were fired by the russian invaders from the sea and some of them from the plane were aimed at infrastructural facilities outside the regional center, as well as 3,000 39,000 russian the occupiers have already died on ukrainian soil, but more news will be told by our team,
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