if we still get f16, how much are they capable of changing the war, considering that, according to their technical characteristics, they can carry under the wings almost 8 t of various weapons and weapons. and here they are stingies with high-precision artillery, very high-precision fire systems, high-precision fire systems of the mercedes type, even under the condition of a single and non-formational space that will wipe out all these all of us with operations. that is, it will not only be about expelling the aggressor from our territory, but it will be about the complete defeat and destruction of him and transfer to the bank even on the territory of russia so that they will not be able to invite us in the future, well, this is not just a pass, it will be time in russia and the complete victory of ukraine and its allies, so be it thank you, mr. oleksandr, for this conversation, uh, have a nice day oleksandr kochatkov, an analyst and a specialist

in missile weapons, joined our broadcast. 10 nationwide survey recorded the lowest number of ukrainians who miss and are nostalgic for soviet times, only 11%. well, this trend is probably easy to explain, but hmm, isn't this figure too big anyway, considering the full-scale invasion of russia? do people who are nostalgic don't understand that this war in ukraine , which has already started on a large scale since february 24, is a legacy from the ussr, really, really 11%

is the lowest percentage that was recorded in general, it is obvious that it is war caused this percentage to decrease, that's why there are still 11%. well, you must understand that there is a certain point that part of the people have not felt what war is, that is, it is possible that there is also a part of the people where there are no military actions taking place on their territories and they are so or else they are not related to the war, on the other hand, it is possible to interpret this as a part of people who still lives in soviet and russian propaganda. they live a parallel life. that is, it is in a certain way schizophrenia, that is, a split personality when what they are told through screens television, what they are told through propaganda channels is one picture of life that can be completely different from what is in reality. and actually very often people perceive and follow it

in parallel, and when they are actually asked how much they regret the ussr, they can speak for because they really feel sorry for the ussr. i think that because this survey was held in may and it was literally two or three months of war there, i think that if such a survey is conducted periodically there every th quarter of ya i think that the number of percentages will actually decrease precisely because of the number of people who will be affected by the war, who will feel it economically, because the war actually takes place on the economy, the solvency of people is affected by the ability to actually earn. this is exactly what will happen. i hope the marathon continues, the only news on the air is the rada tv channel. my name is maksym zborovskyi. and the

full-scale invasion of the russian federation into ukraine itself caused the biggest migration crisis in our history. and actually, we will talk now about mass migration about how it affects the economy and the lives of those who remain and what can be done about it in the future with ella illibanova director of the institute of demography and social research ms. ele i congratulate you good day so, do you have data on how many ukrainians as of now he is abroad a-a and z- of course, i would like to er-e understand so, are there in these numbers in this number those who left and those who returned, please, well, it hurts to operate. if we talk about the western borders, according to the data of our border guards, then

that in my opinion they are the most accurate and i understand that a certain part left without documents, but it cannot be very many. well, maybe there are percentages of 3 4 5, well, okay, let it be 10, but no more. accordingly, we do not know who left for what purpose , we can only think that at least in the first month after the war began, people left fleeing the horrors of the war for reasons of safety of their property, those children, and so on. people left ukraine during this period, and consider that this is a balance, that this is an increase in the number of

migrants who are connected to the war, it is somewhere up to 2 million, at most up to 2 million, a figure of 5 million is heard the number of citizens sounds like seven and a half. i'm already used to our numbers, they're different, i'm telling you how we calculated it, but we can just check the state border service, its western management. on their website, they publish information every day on how many people left, how many people came in, it's not difficult to count. here's the number of 2 million which you you name how critical it is. well, we went and returned. the question is how many of them will not return. i'm afraid that according to the best schedule of events,

it will be somewhere around 500,600,000 a-and it is of a worse size, yes, this is the maximum. yes, this is the maximum. no, this is the best option, the worst. it may be up to 5 million and we are very afraid of it, and the main thing is that here ukraine has something it can do in this sense because, well , to a large extent, the decision of people to return or not to return will be determined by the course of military operations. if somewhere it is to expel the aggressor quite quickly from the territory of ukraine, then the majority will return if the war continues, well, next year, i am not talking about several years, then the people there will simply

adapt, well, the women will find a job so that you can rent a normal house and not live as refugees, they will begin to pull everyone else along with them , and i i lead children will go to school to kindergarten to university and then when martial law ends and men can go abroad i am afraid that a large part of families will be separated not in ukraine but abroad this will be very bad, because we can lose. well, in the worst case scenario, there are up to 5 million people, and the problem is that we will lose not only it is unclear which people, but according to the germans, according to the poles, two -thirds of the ukrainians have more than the germans, two -thirds have more than the germans 70% of our women have a higher

education. add to that the fact that it is mostly women who are determined and active. agree that not every woman has taken the risk to go abroad without the help of a husband, one of me is the right type of character. and relevant skills, higher education does not speak of the already very high quality of the workforce, but it at least speaks of the fact that a person can retrain as needed and is capable of learning. that is, it is bad. add that a third are children, in general, this is the future of ukraine. we actually can only do one thing. how does it not, no, no, it does not sound wild, we can maintain relations with these

people, support from the state, from the society , help everyone. of the diaspora the new generation of the diaspora and not just the new generation of the diaspora, we can expect that if there are close ties with ukraine, they will return . she can't do anything when they leave, the country where these people are going can do, and you agree that no european country today will refuse such a qualified workforce, but the poles say that more than 60% of our women have a competitive profession on the labor market of poland, it's

very sad to hear that our government has only one of all possible options. it's always always so unique. if we maintain ties with them , i want to preserve this sense of ukrainianness, by the way . to pay attention among our diaspora, the feeling of ukrainianness is very strong , let's say in the first two weeks after the start of the war, somewhere around 150,000 men returned to ukraine, they returned already knowing about the presidential decree that they would not be able to leave back. they returned to defend ukraine, they returned to help their relatives, that is, this sense of ukrainianness exists and it must be nurtured in order for these people to return,

it inspires hope, er, well, our calculations for the post-war bug. i think that it will be, there will be a restoration of ukraine, there will be a development of a new ukraine. this means that there will be many workers places, this means that an economic shift will begin in ukraine. and uh, well, you crystals, this is the hope for the best, it is also an incentive - it will encourage many different emigrants, both those who left a long time ago and those who just left and those migrant workers who remained abroad to return, but for this, i repeat once again, they need to feel their connection with ukraine and their need in ukraine well, at the stage of recovery itself, here we are now ukraine and western partners are jointly developing this recovery plan ukraine, that is, boom, as you say, and

a request for restoration, but even this is not enough, it’s true, just expect that they will return by themselves, we call their ukrainian number. if we talk to them all the time, if we tell them that let's say there are the most kyivans of kharkiv, well, with kyiv. well, i don't see a disaster there. there is a disaster in irpin, but there is also reconstruction there. i was in irpen at the weekend. i saw it. with my own eyes , they are trying to rebuild what is possible. kharkiv is much worse. shelling does not stop there, when they stop, many homes have been destroyed. if these people see that housing is being rebuilt, that jobs are being created, and that they are returned to ukraine, let's

say they will be able to get a loan for housing reconstruction or something else. financial incentives, if there are, it will definitely be an additional lever for them to make a positive decision right now. one more moment , it concerns certain financial possibilities of our country, our state, in particular, the burden of the pension system, it will increase. -a considering that our process is the process of the population paying contributions to the pension fund, who will, how will the budget be here, will pay the pension system, no one will cancel the pension system will be preserved. the question is what it will be financed from, or special contributions to the pension fund fund than in the end we will be forced to

say goodbye to this and simply pay pensions from the budget, i do not rule out such an option either. i do not see this as bad, it will be worse than when there is a pension fund, but it is not a disaster if we return to our history lessons to our past, we experienced in our history in the last century e-e these are such periods a-a zagarnytsky periods and a significant loss of population e-e parts of the population of our country a can we and should we at all use any experience that can be useful in the present situation in order to level the situation. we are now talking about demography directly. we are talking about whether it will all develop naturally, well, that is , after the second world war, there were fewer men

, there is a demographic boom. i very strongly doubt that he will be a follower now, well, children are born when, er, mostly when they want to be born. that is, we need to come to terms with the fact that there will be 36 million of us left , and this is if we do not take into account our military losses it’s normal in the center of europe it will never turn into a desert it will definitely be difficult it will definitely be very difficult chinese people will definitely come here and we will be forced to attract them in order to have to work well i hope that we will be able

to return part of our diaspora i really hope so but still once again, we have to set as a goal the formation of a positive image of ukraine in the world . question when they talk about migration all the time, it remains behind the scenes, it's those who got to russia, we can't just ignore these people, some of them got there voluntarily, because when they were fleeing from the place of hostilities, you could only leave this also happened in russia, some were forcibly deported, but these people must be freed, as they say, and this is where a

very serious state intervention is needed, and it is not simple ukraine and russia and this requires intervention through third parties through international structures to join everyone will have to do this because it is not only a problem of ukraine, i hope that the whole world already understands it. thank you for an interesting conversation and i hope that your advice, mrs. yalo, in particular, will be listened to, we will do our part as an information front . everything is possible so that the connections between our ukrainians, including those who are staying or have decided to stay abroad, are strong. thank you ,

ellibanova. before we start we will win and teachers news together we ourselves olena melnyk deputy director of the department of policy implementation of the state employment center is now in touch with us ms. olena i congratulate you i congratulate you so let's start our conversation with an analysis of the general situation well, we understand that the war in ukraine had a painful effect in all spheres of life and of course a large number of people were left without work and probably we are not even able to count the number of these people now, but what numbers is the state center dealing with today employment, yes, today there are quite a lot of estimates of how many people have lost their jobs, but the service within the framework of professional activity is relevant to those clients who choose us as their partners and turn to us for employment assistance, and here we are already talking about the

registered unemployed. that is, those who , in accordance with the current legislation, acquire the status of officially registered unemployed, so at the beginning of the year, about 800,000 citizens used the services of the service, and only more than 600 of them 000 had the status of unemployed. if we talk about today, more than 300,000 citizens have the status of unemployed. because it is necessary for the work of such a structure as ours and forced to review the possibilities of the availability of our services for all customers located in the territory of ukraine.

availability in the registration of the person applying to us and in the registration of her recognition as officially registered unemployed, for example, for regions for people who are in the territory of e-e conducting hostilities or re-e-e, let's say temporarily occupied territories, such availability became possible thanks to the fact that -th person can submit an application for the provision and status of unemployed remotely at the expense of facebook messengers, the telegram channel or viber messenger, since we have made a number of changes in the legislation and because of what we have given such an opportunity to those who contact us on the territory and safely. and we provide services in a stationary manner, that is, a citizen without being tied to the place of registration can contact us and acquire the status of unemployed and, in the absence of a suitable job, receive unemployment benefits for the time being, while we

are trying to find it for him. every citizen who comes to us, we understand that the loss of a job is not only a financial, let's say, element of the loss of the ground under one's feet, but also a psychological one. assistance, if not only employment , psychological support is also provided in the conditions of our service, that is, i understand correctly that you have psychologists working with people who turn to you, yes, we work directly with the client, first of all, this is a career counselor which finds out the needs of such a citizen's intentions regarding his potential employment, takes into account his previous professional experience for job search, so to speak, finding the appropriate elements for job search, and there are also specialists who have the skills of psychological support and, accordingly, depending on the needs of the client , he is also provided with such a set of services. this is very

interesting. that is, not only job search, but also psychological help. after all, this is receiving state aid, you can say 50x50, because more of you, of course, apply for a search job, but a share of our fellow citizens was forced to change their place of residence, and we understand that the loss means of livelihood is caused by the fact that a person as much as possible directs his efforts to finding a job, therefore, in the first place, of course, it is a job search. therefore, if we cannot offer anything to the client, then financial support goes, can you tell in more detail in what mode the employment centers are currently working in the occupied territories e-e those customers from the occupied territories and the territory will be hostilities, we serve remotely via telecommunications , the employment center directly on

in the occupied territories or hostilities are taking place. they do not work, and of course we see that due to the war, people often change their place of residence. explain whether the registered unemployed person can receive services in another place, e.e., in another employment center in another city. where is he going? arrived, for example. yes, of course, for quite a long time, we have not had a procedure for linking a client who applies to us to the direct place of registration , that is, the person who chooses us can apply to any convenient employment center for its maintenance and accordingly receive the status of registered unemployed with the payment of benefits and in the future all those services that we provide this employment and possible temporary support through involvement in paid public works or a complex of vocational training or employment on the terms of compensatory

programs, so to speak, where we employers stimulate to employment of our unemployed clients and at the expense of, after he is employed by him, he receives some other financial support, it can be or compensation of a part of the costs of wages or compensation of the costs of paying a single contribution for each such employed person, so it is clear since july, six projects have started working under the program, there is work, you can tell about them in more detail, what kind of projects they are . of the mechanism of employment of internally displaced persons is the provision of compensation to the employer for the employment of an internally displaced person who has moved since the beginning of hostilities where the employer for two months, each employed citizen can receive compensation in the amount of 6,500, this compensation

covers, perhaps, a part, but the expenses for the wages of each such employee, and today we have about five thousand applications from employers who have already employed more than 8,000 internally displaced persons and the service itself made, let's say, positive decisions, that is, decisions where such compensation is provided, this is about 5 decisions for a-a-a-a, if i'm not mistaken, 7,000 internally displaced persons, that is, quite interesting the employer's program does not use all that is needed, it is not important that you are employed. whether this is a newly created workplace or whether you have a vacant position under the terms of a contract or a fixed-term employment contract or part-time. by the way, this is quite a lot of support for internally displaced persons, because no everyone had the opportunity to terminate their previous relationships, as

the legislation also provided an opportunity to suspend the validity of employment contracts, i.e. the employer applied for us relevant documents and if we check the information. of course, if everything is positive, then for two months in a row he receives compensation. pros and cons, and even if he has no experience in running a business, he will be able to get a degree for the development of the startup he already has. or if he wants to create something new, the amount of plans about 250,000 but there are certain conditions if you hire one or two workers, the amount can change accordingly, so it’s clear and finally, i

wanted to ask you what you think how will the labor market change in general after the war, what professions will be in demand first of all um powerful for whom it's no secret that everything will be aimed at all or rather processes or aimed at rebuilding the state, that's why all the professions that will be in demand will be more, let's say, labor professions or professions that are for workers who have work skills with a tool. if we stay for today. for example , we analyze that we have vacancies specifically for texted gray collars, er, gray middle-blue gray collars, that is, either professions that do not require certain experience or those who have a rather cool command of some tools and know how to service cars as well there is a segment of vacancies in trade in pharmacology, well, somewhere like that. it seems to me that it will be preserved for another two or three years, what do you think, or will it be necessary for people to retrain a lot in

connection with this? and, uh, she is already eating this the need is especially for those citizens who lost their previous place of work or were forced to move, we understand that today's market does not offer, let's say, a large number of vacancies for the management of pensioners for well, also everything that is commonly called white-collar managers , so even today some people are quite is interested in such opportunities as obtaining or additional competences and developing existing professional skills or obtaining a new profession and, in principle, the service is also in this helps especially for the registered unemployed we have training programs for about 95 licensed professions or more than 250 targeted training courses where our registered unemployed receive, undergo training, receive competencies and even a corresponding sample document

on obtaining a certain education and thus then gets a job well, what well, let's hope that the war will not only bring losses, but also give us new opportunities. thank you for the conversation olena melnyk deputy director of the department implementation of the policy of the state employment center was in touch with us in the most difficult times for the country, true only in the armed forces, but also in itself, the state provides assistance to everyone who is looking for a new job because of the war, there are employment centers in every city where vacancies are updated daily, choose conveniently and fill out the questionnaire on the official website in action or in the chat body, work, develop, live for the sake of victory